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Microsoft Botches More Patches In Latest Automatic Update
snydeq writes "'No sooner did Microsoft release the latest round of Black Tuesday patches than screams of agony began sounding all over the Internet,' writes Woody Leonhard, reporting on verified problems with Microsoft Automatic Updates KB 2817630, KB 2810009, KB 2760411, KB 2760588, and KB 2760583. The latest round of MS Auto Update hell comes on the heels of one of the worst runs in MS Patch Tuesday history — and just in time for Microsoft to expand the scope of its automatic update damage. 'Does this make you feel warm and fuzzy about automatic app updates in Windows 8.1?'"
Microsoft just went bukkake on its customers.
It's simple but effective.
Good thing it takes longer than a week to exploit Windows vulnerabilities.
I, personally, have even better install policy: off. The disruption from MS patches exceeds the pain from defects in the OS.
It's OK, these specific bugs are minor... an unexpected UI change in office 2013 and an update to office 2007 that says it's not installed after it has been installed.
I am not sure how this qualifies as a patch disaster. There appears to be nothing wrong with the patch. The issue appears purely to be people that haven't updated their outlook while installing the latest patches lose a folder pane, annoying but hardly a disaster and fixed by updating their machine. The issue is applying a new patch to an out of date version.
I used to have this policy as well, until I went GNU/Linux for 99% of the time. The 1% on Windows I use to play games but it is rare and seeing as Linux is getting more games nowadays I might go 100% soon enough.
That week makes little difference: Windows patches come weeks after the vulnerabilities are beeing exploited.
Linux user here. No real comment, just enjoying the show.
Do you pay for this operating system?
It's shit like this that forces me to turn off automatic updates and wait a month before manually applying updates. And it's not just a Microsoft problem - I have also seen similar issues from Apple and Canonical.
Ditto for home - the only Windows box left in the house is a VM on my MacBook Pro, which doesn't have network access to the outside world.
Now at work? It depends on the box, where it sits (inside, DMZ, etc), what it does, and how badly the patch is needed. Snapshot/backup-before-patching is a *must*. Takes work to triage it all, but well worth the effort, all things considered.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Your virginity is assured. Rest at ease.
Your virginity is assured. Rest at ease.
I've always wondered why folks think so highly of the mating game. After years of married life and kids I'm miserable, while the friend of mine who remained single and mostly dateless is now the happiest guy I know.
Rest uneasily, divorce court is rape.
Yes, because I develop cross platform applications, but I run it in a VM on Linux too, so I just restored the MS OS partition from snapshot. If you don't have a separate partition for /home/, or if you you let Windows touch bare metal, you're going to have a bad time. Always use protection.
Unvirtualized proprietary software? Not even once.
an unexpected UI change in office 2013
Did they backtrack on ribbon too? Well it's about time.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
You chose your mate .... poorly. Its like you bought a discount pentium I computer with 8 megs ram and are complaining that all computers suck. No, they don't you just suck at the selection process.
Windows user here. Have never had an issue from a patch and definitely glad I paid for Win7. Quite nice being able to play games that are fun. For everything else that can be done on Linux, why bother?
It's free, it's fast, it's open, it's reliable, and it's not back-doored by the NSA?
You forgot the unwritten (until just now) rule that all analogies on Slashdot must be car analogies. This is like if he bought a Jaguar that he thought was going to be a fun, sexy ride, but instead is terribly high maintenance and broken most of the time.
-- Sent from a computer.
Ubuntu != Linux.
And "Debian testing" is called "testing" for a reason. See if you can figure out what that is.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Have you used a Debian based system? Dude, step into this millennium.
Did you used to write propaganda for the Nazis? Give the rhetoric a rest and just report the facts, please.
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Macs are for fags.
So how many do you own?
Use another distro, obviously you're doing something wrong and it's all your fault, you must have a weird configuration nobody else in the universe has, well it's open source you can go fix the updates yourself, maybe you're just not smart enough to run a sophisticated OS like Linux, etc etc etc etc.
Just going through the litany of replies you'll get to save some time.
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By "enjoying the show", do you mean feverishly working through dependency hell to try to make updates work at all on your *nix system?
It isn't 1998 any more. Why do you use 1998 arguments?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
True. I recently went through a bunch of Debian upgrades from 6 to 7, and this happened to one server. Unfortunately, it was one of the few physical servers on the list, which meant I had to haul my ass down to the data centre, early hours of the morning, to fix it at the console.
Serves me right for ignoring the grub update warning while doing the update. A simple "grub-install /dev/sda", when the update process is finished, would have made sure that all was OK. Also, this can be fixed by booting the Debian 7 install CD, and running through the rescue menu. No need for a live CD or such.
Still, it's a shame that this one got through the testing process, especially for such a crucial bit of the system. Very unusual for Debian.
we have a tool from quickbooks that does a thorough uninstall/reinstall, and i mean rigorous should work. pm me and ill try to get it to you.
weeks? YEARS in some cases.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
Let's address those point-by-point.
So out of your list, the only valid point is "free". And perhaps applications, depending on if you need to use an app which is Linux-specific. But otherwise it's not a compelling argument you just made. And hey, if you have no need of applications which run on Windows and want to take advantage of the Linux price point (or just prefer the OS), God bless you. But Linux advocates also need to cut it out with this superiority complex nonsense. Linux and Windows are both perfectly serviceable operating systems which may or may not be superior depending on your needs. Saying one is inherently better than the other is asinine.
"16MB (fuck off, MiB fascists)" - The Mighty Buzzard
Nah, I can understand the guy. No matter how wonderful the person you choose, sometimes you just want them to go away so you can be alone. That's difficult when you're married.