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The Dash Is Now Anonymized In Ubuntu 13.10

Last year, Canonical drew heat for the troublesome privacy implications that people like Richard Stallman saw in its in-built search-and-shopping facilities. An anonymous reader now writes "Long story short — Canonical now makes the user's data anonymous."

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  1. It works! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Posted from new Ubuntu.

    1. Re:It works! by turgid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too convenient. Must be a trap...

  2. And then I got my eyes tested. by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 5, Insightful

    typing a word in the Dash, pushes the word against (along with the locally-installed scopes) the Canonical servers, the Canonical servers decide the best results, the results are then anonymized and finally landed in the Dash.

    The fuck? If you can't see any privacy implications here, you're a dilettante.

    And anonymisation of results - what? If I search for "loli president bomb" then that's what's going to get me in trouble, not the results I receive.

    1. Re:And then I got my eyes tested. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fuck? If you can't see any privacy implications here, you're a dilettante.

      This statement might carry a bit more weight if your standard garden-variety Slashdot reader didn't see privacy implications in bowls of alphabet soup.

    2. Re:And then I got my eyes tested. by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can you give an example of where a standard garden-variety Slashdot reader has incorrectly read privacy implications into something?

      Ignore anyone who uses either the term "New World Order" or "reptilian".

    3. Re:And then I got my eyes tested. by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

      Loli President Bomb is my new band name.

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    4. Re:And then I got my eyes tested. by girlintraining · · Score: 2

      Now satire's not quite the same as a joke, to be sure, but your use of the "not a joke" idiom to suggest it's factual shows you're either really stupid (and believe it to be a factual account) or really disingenuous (and are trying to induce others to believe it is a factual account); either way, GTFO my /., ok?

      Well, it's not your slashdot. You're an AC. And no, I'm not trying to induce others to believe anything... they probably believe things far weirder than anything I could come up with, so what's the point? :)

      But that said, it is well-known that Linux developers tend to be more marxist in their thinking and entertain peculiar or idiosyncratic political beliefs. Those genuinely are things that the FBI puts people on watch lists for. And there is a visible minority of programmers that collect guns, go hiking, and engage in other recreational activities viewed with suspicion by the government. It's not a stretch to say that running Linux could score you points on some whack government algorithm; They've done more to people for less.

      The problem with dealing with political or religious extremism is that it is very hard to tell the difference between satire and factual accounts because extremist thinking is so very often irrational and aggressive. And people who claim to fight extremists very often fall into the same trap: "If they're willing to do anything for their cause, we have to too!"

      So... feel like logging in and finding out what people here really think of your opinions, or is it that you already know and that's why you post as AC?

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  3. No more privacy = anonymous?? by Gothmolly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Care to rephrase that, smitty?

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  4. Re:I don't get it by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The difference is that anonymity means they can still collect all your information, just not your identity. So, you're just one breech away from having all of your information spilled to them. What's more, when it comes to online services and such, the name isn't usually that important, they don't really know that my name is Sir Dragon King of the 4th order of New Castle.

    Just because one is anonymous, does not mean that one has privacy, when I go out in public, I'm anonymous, but people can see everything that I do.

  5. Piss Poor Submission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There may, or may not, be a story here. But, the submission is from someone who seems to not have mastered the English language, in which it is written, and therefore it makes little or no sense at all. The submisison is completely worthless.

    Whether or not Ubuntu has restored any semblance of privacy to the desktop search remains an exercise for the reader. But, I can't be bothered. Ubuntu has broken my trust and I won't be arsed enough to see if they have chosen to change, a little bit, for now. There are still several Linux distributions that still lack the phone home and spyware trojans that Ubuntu has chosen to use.

  6. Re:Looking forward by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    Anyone know a polished linux distribution that could hold the candle after Ubuntu croaks in a weird accident involving barbed sex toys (fingers crossed)?

    Mint seems the best option at the moment, but since it's basically Ubuntu with the suck removed, it will probably go away if Ubuntu does.

  7. Re:Chose Something ELSE by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    Why did he move to America ? To get into a golden cage ?

    Look man. You know whats Helsinki like in the winter? http://www.nieppi.com/n/wp-content/gallery/viikonkuvat-2006/orig_2006_04.jpg

    and taxes, of course.

    have fun trying to find products that have nothing made in america or designed in america..

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  8. Re:I don't get it by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anonymity != Privacy because we're in the age of big data where large data sets can be cross-correlated to profile an individual. From stores that track your cell phone while you're shopping to big chain stores figuring out you're pregnant, big data techniques are invading your privacy in more and more ways. If you think that anonymous data collection is safe, it's still data collection and despite people's best efforts, we are of course creatures of habit and your repetitive habits allow people to build fingerprints about you. If you have enough data points, even anonymous data points, you can build a profile of an individual, their habits, their likes, their dislikes and where they go on the Internet. If you can take that profile and match it against an individual using other correlating data you've been identified. This has been proven for example in the 2007 Netflix prize competition where anonymous movie reviewers were tracked down. There's lots of examples on this and over the past few years, techniques have become much better at picking individuals out of anonymous data sets.
      More chilling is a study released this year showed that using in analyzing anonymous cell phone tracking data, 95% of 1.5 million individuals could be identified.

    What this means that as long as companies are able to collect data about you, whether tagged or anonymous, you're still being tracked somewhere and that is no guarantee that your privacy is protected. What has to happen to provide privacy is to stop all of the tracking and I don't see companies nor governments giving up that mechanism anytime soon.

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  9. Ubuntu is a has-been. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to run 40+ Ubuntu clients. Unfortunately, Cannonical has added so many new features: Zeitgeist, Mono, Amazon monitoring, Unity, UEFI, MIR, etc. that most of the community left. Their Distrowatch ratings have been plummeting since the glory days of 10.4.

    Although the desktop flavor of the month is Mint (an Ubuntu fork) right now, a lot of the crapware is removed, and much of the progress is going back to Debian. I am grateful for the investment by the Benevolent Dictator for Life (Mark Shuttleworth), and the progress that Linux has made because of Cannonical's work. That being said, there is an adage in the Linux user space:

    "How do you become a millionaire selling open source software? Start out as a billionaire."

    The profit model is broken for Cannonical. It is sad to see it wither.

    1. Re:Ubuntu is a has-been. by gmuslera · · Score: 2

      The profit model is still adapting to the new realities. They are playing as a redhat competitor (support, server versions), in the smartphone/tablet arena (Android? Sailfish? Samsung? Those cover different areas), a market for commercial linux programs, and other services (music, cloud storage, the company is not US based so could distance itself from the NSA monitored crowd, at least not aware that GCHQ is forcing companies to put backdoors... yet) . Redhat took years to be profitable,

      Several areas changed a lot this year, and they are in the right spot to take advantage of the Windows 8x debacle, countries wanting to run from anything that that have strong US influence, and the mobile explosion. Just need to have a strong position in all those arenas.

    2. Re:Ubuntu is a has-been. by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      I agree with this. From quality assurance perspective, Ubuntu has a long way to go to even touch Windows or Mac.

      This means:
      1) high performance
      2) applications which do not crash
      3) features which are fully functional
      4) consistent and stable APIs

    3. Re:Ubuntu is a has-been. by Mike+Frett · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Exactly, it's totally laughable all the fanboys telling Ubuntu users to switch to Mint. And when they get there, they have no Software Center (to Buy apps) and a truck load of Bugs added from hacking Ubuntu code. AC: Ubuntu is #3 on Distrowatch, that shows how much Minty FUD you spew. With Debian at #2 and rising. But DW isn't a real Survey, it's a click counter.

      There is nothing wrong with Ubuntu, they have done more to put Linux on radar as a real alternative to Windows than any other distro. For me personally, I don't like or dislike Unity since I never tried it; I use Xubuntu. Instead of going to Mint, try the other official distros 1st, people seem to conveniently forget they can have the full Ubuntu experience without Unity. Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu etc. Canonical isn't Microsoft, they don't force you to use one GUI.

      Don't take it the wrong way, but I feel Debian is for those who don't care to ride the current Desktop/Gaming Linux wave we are in. It's for the old hats who like living in the Stone Age of yesterday. But, if you know what you're doing you can add repos to bring it up to Ubuntu standards with all that proprietary goodness. Now OpenSuse is something Ubuntu fans should keep their eye on. Great community and one-click App installs, with a possible future involving a real App store where one could actually buy things like the Ubuntu Software Center.

      Now, it's just my opinion, but I think Xubuntu is the best thing since Sliced Bread. As far as something a newbie or former Windows user (like myself) can feel right at home with, Xubuntu is very popular and probably second to regular Ubuntu. If something actually happened to Xubuntu, I'd probably roll a Debian/XFCE for my usage.

      Not to mention, if you want to use Steam or any new game for that matter, Developers have pretty much chosen Ubuntu as the officially supported platform. So good luck trying to convince people of your opinion that Ubuntu sucks. But people of Slashdot, please don't forget about Desura. Desura not only has more games than Steam for Linux, but the ability to download them Stand-alone and they have a few AAA titles like Freespace 2 (with FS2 Open) and Fallout along with a few others. Desura also has a good lot of free games for download, something Steam is lacking and IMO, needs to add. Again, just my opinion, but who's to say that Valve doesn't have some sinister plan to go all Android on us with Steambox; and simply using Desktop Linux (and our faces) as a stepping stone?.

    4. Re:Ubuntu is a has-been. by elashish14 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right on 3, but

      1) Many applications run faster on Ubuntu (and Linux in general), Steam for example. I've noticed Linux on my personal machine to be much faster than the Windows machines I've had to fix.
      2) I've consistently seen Windows gag on many routine operations. I/O responsiveness on Linux is far more robust than on Windows. Flash causes the entire system to grind to a halt on Windows whereas Linux is still responsive enough to execute a killall plugin-container. Libreoffice on Linux just loads, whereas on Windows it causes the system to hang for several seconds while the libraries are loaded.
      4) You may be right on this one as well, but Linux has several APIs and toolkits for all sorts of things - window toolkits, networking, and so on.... The only area where you're probably right on this one is stability in the graphics space.

      Don't get me wrong, I doubt that desktop GNU/Linux will ever dominate the marketplace, but it's definitely not because of the technical merits of either platform - Linux is lightyears ahead of Windows, and always will be. Linux developers focus on making a good product; Microsoft is more of a marketing/legal company in the tech industry (a la Apple, Oracle), and they focus more of their efforts on licensing, lock-in/out, and general marketing than developing their core product. People don't have to choose Windows (from a technical standpoint) generally don't but Microsoft rarely gives them a choice.

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    5. Re:Ubuntu is a has-been. by water-and-sewer · · Score: 2

      As far as I'm concerned, Ubuntu's only purpose is to create the (very fine) basis for Bodhi, which is the Ubuntu platform with E17 Enlightenment instead of Gnome3 and none of that other, special, Canonical weirdness. Damn it's a great distro.

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  10. Re:Chose Something ELSE by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am from Nigeria and I will use anything not made in America.

    Except for Slashdot?

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  11. It's anonymising for third-party images only by KNicolson · · Score: 2

    It's a bit of a non-story in my opinion, as I think most people worry about Ubuntu and their direct partners slurping all their search info, whereas this "news" is that they now insert an anonymiser into image URLs so that random web site Z doesn't pick up your IP address when your computer tries to render an image.

  12. Re:Can it be eliminated? by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, use Linux Mint, it's Ubuntu without the suck

  13. Re:Can it be eliminated? by Urkki · · Score: 2

    I'm not familiar with this "Dash" thing. Can't it just be taken out when you install the new Ubuntu?

    Easiest is to install Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu instead of the "main" distro.

  14. Re:LMDE and prism-break. by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Funny

    I switched to Linux Mint Debian Edition.

    It's like the vegetarian joke...

    Q: How do you know if there is a Linux Mint user at a dinner table?
    A: Don't worry, he will tell you about it

  15. Eh... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Smart users rip it out ASAP. Smarter users dont use ubuntu and use Mint or another version where they actually care about the user.

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