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Bill Gates Acknowledges Ctrl+Alt+Del Was a Mistake

theodp writes "If he'd had his druthers, Bill Gates told a Harvard audience, Ctrl+Alt+Del would never have seen the light of day. However, an IBM keyboard designer didn't want to give Microsoft a single button to start things up, and thus the iconic three-finger-salute was born."

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  1. There you have it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even bill gates does not approve of Ctrl+Alt+Del

  2. So why continue it... by nschubach · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once they got the "Windows Key", why did they continue using the Ctrl + Alt + Delete?

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    1. Re:So why continue it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because accidentally pressing the windows key in the middle of a game would shut down an entire computer instead of momentarily piss off a gamer.

    2. Re:So why continue it... by jones_supa · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank god we are at least past the era in which pressing the Win key or Alt-Tabbing in a game would jam the whole operating system.

    3. Re:So why continue it... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The point of using control-alt-delete is that it's a key combination that can not be caught by any userspace process that does not have a special permission. This means that it's impossible to spoof the login screen on Windows without already having compromised the kernel. It doesn't matter what the key combination is, as long as it's one that is not delivered by the normal keypress event delivery mechanisms. Control-alt-delete is a reasonable choice, because no application author is likely to complain that they can't use this shortcut combination.

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    4. Re:So why continue it... by SunTzuWarmaster · · Score: 5, Informative

      I use the Start key all of the time. Seriously. I use it in the following manner, essentially as a keyboard shortcut and linux holdover:

      *Start* (type some keys) (enter) to launch a program.
      Frequent uses include "cal" for Calculator, "not" for notepad, "wor" for Word, and "add or remove" for the Program Manager

      *Start* (# key) to bring up window #.
      One uses include Start+1 (Currently set to the Google App Launcher) (then used as the first example)
      Another is Start+2, which is always my E-mail application (across multiple computers)

      *Start*+R to bring up the "Run" dialog
      Frequent uses from the Run dialog are "dxdiag", "cmd", and "regedit"

      *Start*+D to "Show Desktop"
      Admittedly used less now with the prevalence of two monitors

      *Start*+E to bring up Explorer
      Used ALL THE TIME

      *Start*+CTRL+TAB to bring up a listing of all windows
      Admittedly, this is mapped to a StrokeIt Gesture shortcut (but the point stands)

      *Start*+DirectionalArrow (Up/Down/Left/Right)
      Used to move, maximize, and restore a window. Try it, Start+Left will put a window at half of your left screen. SUPER USEFUL. USED ALL THE TIME. EXTRA POINTS ON A BIG MONITOR. This is the fastest way to move windows to a second monitor.

      I probably do 90% of these every day. I use the Start key as much as CTRL and ALT.

  3. Re:So why is it used in Windows? by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because Ctrl-Alt-Delete is non-interruptible. This way one could be sure it was truly the login screen and not something impersonating the login screen. At least, that's how I remember it. Could be urban legend.

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  4. Makes sense by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That was back when programmers were also engineers, and they realized the risk of accidentally hitting a single key and wiping the contents of RAM without saving. A complex key combination avoids accidents. I really don't see a problem with it. And considering that (most) keyboards still haven't evolved a "reboot" key, there doesn't seem to be great demand. Hell even the "Windows Start" key is probably the least utilized key on my keyboard, only good to tab me out of FPS games by accident and get me killed when I meant to hit Ctrl or Alt.

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    1. Re:Makes sense by moronoxyd · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I had a keyboard once with a dedicated start/shutdown key.

      After shutting down my system a few times accidentally I threw that keyboard away.

    2. Re:Makes sense by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      But then managers would hit it every time they went to change their password Post-It.

  5. Why would you want a single button??? by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A single button that, if hit, would reboot the system???? That's is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. If you hit it by accident, goodbye to your work. Remember that when you hit CTRL-ALT-DEL in DOS, it didn't even give you a prompt to shut down, it just rebooted. Who in their right mind would want that in a single key??

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  6. Revisionist history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ctrl-Alt-Del was a thing *before* Windows. Microsoft made use of it because it was there. It made sense to use it as a login trigger by intercepting its function. Especially since doing so put the reboot function under the control of the OS, not the user.

    Yes, I've only read the summary, not the article itself, but I suggest you read this in conjunction with it, or afterwards:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ctrl_alt_del

  7. Could have been worse than Ctrl + Alt + Del by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm just glad we didn't have to do something like Ctrl + Alt + Del + F6 + Esc + (number pad) Enter for the same functionality.

  8. Re:Redundant keys by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Semicolon; damnit; why don;t people use that one more often; I find it can replace all other punctuation;

  9. Re:Redundant keys by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    But people who type properly use both shift keys.

    Many keyboards have a space between the Esc and F1 keys. I heard somewhere that to allow for adding undetermined capabilities later, they originally wanted to add another key in that space. As it would be for undetermined functionality, and to keep with the naming scheme of the other function keys, this key was to be labelled "FU". While the actual key was never adopted, it's spirit has lived on in every release of Windows.

  10. Rebooting the linux servers. by ls671 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I used to work for a small company where we had 10 Linux servers and 1 windows NT box hooked to a Keyboard Video Mouse (KVM) switch. My boss was using the windows server for Webtrends.

    He would never check which server he was on before pressing ctrl-alt-del to login so he would reboot the Linux servers at random causing customers to phone us because they were offline.

    Gladly enough, ctrl-alt-del isn't as hardcoded in Linux that it is in Windows. All I had to do is modify the init scripts to ignore ctrl-alt-del so that solved our problem.

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  11. Re:So why is it used in Windows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    its not urban legend. that is exactly, and Bill Gates himself says it so on the first paragraph that Bill talks in the summary's linked article:
    From http://www.geekwire.com/2013/gates-harvard/

    “You want to have something you do with the keyboard that is signaling to a very low level of the software — actually hard-coded in the hardware — that it really is bringing in the operating system you expect, instead of just a funny piece of software that puts up a screen that looks like a log-in screen, and then it listens to your password and then it’s able to do that,” Gates said.

  12. Re:ADB by NJRoadfan · · Score: 5, Informative

    PCs were held back by the AT standard power supply, which used a hard wired power switch. Only a handful of OEMs used "soft" power switches. IBM was one of the first using it in their PS/1 machines back in 1992 or so. Apple started using them even earlier. It wasn't until ATX style power supplies that soft power switches became universal on PCs around 1998 or so. The introduction of ACPI really pushed for it since it needed full control of system power.

  13. Re:Redundant keys by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I ever find myself on a Windows machine, I figure woe already done gone betided me.

  14. Re:Redundant keys by houghi · · Score: 5, Funny

    WHAT ABOUT THE CAPS LOCK KEY?

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  15. Re:No, Caps Lock was the big mistake by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 5, Informative

    Caps lock was invented for manual typewriters.

    When you wanted to type a capital letter, the caps key would lift the platten ( the key bar had the uppercase character below the lower case character ).
    The upshot of that was that when you typed an uppercase letter, there would be a slowdown while you waited for the platen to rise.

    If you had to type several capital letters at once, it had several major effects.

    First touch typists are never supposed to use Shift, CTL or Alt. and the key on the same hand. This slows you down. Actually there were no CTL or Alt keys back then. They were eventually added to only the left side of keyboards by geeks. When IBM started creating keyboards that directly entered strokes into the computer, they added both left and right. So a sequence like "CAPSLOCK" would have the person bouncing the platten up and down. This made the persons hands more tired and the typing much slower.

    Caps lock was a solution to that.

    Of course none of that logic applies to computer keyboards.