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First Cases of Flesh-Eating Drug Emerge In the United States

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Having spent the last decade wreaking havoc in Russia, a flesh-eating drug called Krokodil has arrived in Arizona, reports Eliza Gray at Time Magazine. The Banner Poison Control Center has reported the first two users of the drug which makes user's skin scaly and green before it rots away [Warning: Graphic Images]. Made of codeine, a painkiller often used in cough syrup, and a mix of other materials including gasoline, paint thinner, and alcohol, Krokodil become popular in Russia because it costs 20 times less than heroin and can be made easily at home. Also known as Desomorphine, Krokodil has sedative and analgesic effects, and is around 8-10 times more potent than morphine. When the drug is injected, it rots the skin by rupturing blood vessels, causing the tissue to die. As a result, the skin hardens and rots, sometimes even falling off to expose the bone. 'These people are the ultimate in self-destructive drug addiction,' says Dr. Ellen Marmur. 'Once you are an addict at this level, any rational thinking doesn't apply.' The average life span of a Krokodil user is two to three years, according to a 2011 TIME investigation of the drug's prevalence in Russia."

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  1. Gross, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seems to be a somewhat self-limiting problem. Users will die off fairly rapidly.

    1. Re:Gross, but... by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But it's not. Drug users want something cheap and accessible. The market will always be there, even if only a few partake. If heroine were legal, nobody would die. But so long as we think they deserve it, it's ok to enforce policies that kill millions.

    2. Re:Gross, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If heroine were legal, nobody would die.

      Like nobody dies from alchohol abuse?

      Maybe fewer people would die. But it's obviously not "nobody."

    3. Re:Gross, but... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I sure will. I'm fine killing off the lowlifes who's opinion of existence is so low that they feel the need to partake of illegal artificial stimulants in order to make it tolerable."

      They are usually taking it to deal with having to live on the same planet with people like you, actually.

      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    4. Re:Gross, but... by ruir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fairly easy, the difference between alcohol and marijuana is that anybody can grow the plant without having middle man or paying taxes, and that cant be allowed.

    5. Re:Gross, but... by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Heroin overdose among experienced users with steady supplies are unheard of. Heroin is quite safe, actually.

      The letal dose of heroin is 5x an "effective dose". I suppose some people who know what they're doing can avoid an overdose, but the gap between an effective dose and a lethal dose is a lot closer for heroin than for - well - every other illegal drug on this list: http://www.americanscientist.org/libraries/documents/200645104835_307.pdf

      That sounds indeed highly dangerous. But here is the kicker: The lethal dose for Paracetamol is only about 3x of that "effective dose". One of the reasons you can accidentally kill yourself with it if you do not follow the instructions carefully. Yet most people never have a problem.

      (No, I am not for legalizing the stuff. I am just pointing out your argument does not hold water.)

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  2. Solution by blue+trane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Legalize heroin.

    1. Re:Solution by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So why do we screw up their lives after a skilled salesman convinces them to try it by throwing them in jail? Isn't that bad for all the reasons you mentioned?

      I don't think we want active sales and marketing for heroine, but jailing addicts and driving them to dangerously impure and inconsistent street drugs seems like a bad idea. Especially if it eventually drives them to krokodil.

      Perhaps the clean stuff should be legally sold at the pharmacy but with no advertising at all and the pharmacist must giv you a pamphlet on drug treatment and tell you heroine is a bad idea when he hands it over.

    2. Re:Solution by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

      doesn't have a good control framework like Cigarettes/alcohol which are legal and profitable for the government, especially here (Canada) with the "SIN TAXES".

      In the places where it has been decriminalized, the problems associated with the use of drugs like heroin were not just significantly but drastically reduced.

      That doesn't prove cause and effect but it has been consistent enough to suggest that inductive logic is appropriate here.

  3. Another failure of the drug war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we treated addiction like the disease it is instead of moralizing it as a crime, we could help these people become productive members of society again instead of driving them to slow suicide. If safe drugs were available in free clinics and addicts received treatment, nobody would choose krokodil, nobody would be robbed for drug money, gangs would have one less source of funding, and these victims would be able to overcome their disease.

  4. Re:Natural selection by GNious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're missing something ...

    Krokodil is NOT for those wanting to get high/stoned/whatever for cheaps.

    It is a drug for when everything else is just not cutting it anymore.
    It is a drug for when nothing in life really matter, besides the next fix.
    It is a drug for when you've accepted that you're going to die from drugs.

    Krokodil is the thing users turn to when everything else has been tried, when all there is left is the pain and the high and when you're beyond the regular kind of drug-addict-gone-fucked-up.

    "Dumb" has nothing, what-so-ever, to do with it.

  5. Re:Natural selection by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I saw an independent Australian documentary on Krokodil in one of the southern Russian cities, like Novobirisk. The addicts (in theit teens or twenties) figured they had about a week to live, and cared about nothing, living in a garbage pile in an abandoned building. The film crew tried to observe a drug buy, but ended up being chased by someone who spotted them. It was a incredibly sad, terrifying film.

    For their part, Russian officials are claiming that the Taliban is shipping cheap drugs north across the steppes in an attempt to corrupt and destabilize their cities.

    I'm all for legalization of a lot of substances and ending the Violence Due To Illegalization, but this one is so over-the-top in terms of both addiction and toxicity that I don't know what a rational response could be.

    --
    John
  6. Re:Natural selection by Garridan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obligatory: you don't know shit about the decision-making process of addicts. These aren't idiots fouling the gene pool. You're no smarter. Ignorant judgmental creeps like you should be culled from the gene pool -- we'd all be in a better if trivial levels of compassion were among "common sense".

    Treat addiction like the disease it is, and it goes away. Encouraging addicts to off themselves only puts money into the pockets of the crooked assholes who peddle these drugs, exacerbating the problem. This drains the resources of the host society, reduces the available talent pool for the arts and sciences, and guess who can't afford birth control: addicts.

    Self-righteous assholes like you are what got us to this place to begin with. May your ignorant worldview fuck off and die.