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US Forces Undertake Two African Raids, Capture Embassy Bombing Figure
CNN reports that two separate U.S. military operations have taken place this weekend in Africa; the first in Tripoli, the second in Somalia. "In the earlier raid, U.S. forces captured Abu Anas al Libi, an al Qaeda operative wanted for his role in the deadly 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa. In the second raid, a team of U.S. Navy SEALs in southern Somalia targeted the top leader of Al-Shabaab, a terrorist group linked with al Qaeda." According to the report, it's unclear for now whether the second of these attempts was successful. Unsurprisingly, the Libyan raid has raised the ire of the interim government there, which has objected to the U.S. arrest and removal of al Libi (to an undisclosed placed outside of Libya) as a kidnapping.
News for Nerds? Really?
Jesus Christ, what the fuck does this have to do with tech news? Newsfornerds??? You gotta be kidding!
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... Why we support Al Qaeda in Syria. I am dreadfully bereft in reliable information. Can't trust the media. I don't have a conspiracy theory in my head but I strongly suspect what we were told lacks validity regarding 9-11, Syria, and the other recent military operations. Somewhere, it has to make sense that our government, not the left, not the right but the whole lot of them, wants to support these guys in Syria.
I'd rather say "understandably" or "unexpectedly", because the Libyan government has every right to be pissed off.
What happens when an elite Iraqi commando enters the US and "arrests" prominent terrorist and war criminal Donald Rumsfeld, killing 15 secret service agents in the process?
The way it's written, this is an insulting propaganda piece.
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It couldn't have been the USA. We're closed for business until further notice.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yeah, the Libyan government is so irate. Just like how Pakistan publicly bitches about drone strikes but behind closed doors couldn't be happier. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/pakistani-general-actually-the-drones-are-awesome/
We may be in a "conflict" with Libya, but as far as I know, we're not involved with Somalia yet, short of condemning piracy.
So who gave us the permission to go in and take these guys out? Seems like this will be an interesting news story over the next few days.
Regardless of what these guys did, nothing justifies walking into another country and taking military action.
And he got the Nobel peace prize . What a phoney prize.
So what, he bombed two embassies back in '98? Just let it go guys, he's not worth holding a grudge for 15 years.
The world is once again safe from the terrorists.
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Never mind that YOU are in the way !!
If the italian governement "raided" and kidnapped the various air pilot or agent which did illegal action in italy (or killed people). I am guessing it would not be that happy.
News for Nerds? Really?
Forgetting the Stuff That Matters are we? Last time I checked geopolitics and military strikes affect nerds as much as they affect anyone else. Plus are you seriously going to claim that nerds have no interest in special operations warfare?
Jesus Christ, what the fuck does this have to do with tech news? Newsfornerds??? You gotta be kidding!
Slashdot has NEVER been just about tech news. Last time I checked military strikes affect nerds too and it certainly falls under the heading of "Stuff That Matters".
Most of the world knows the "rebels" are Al Qaeda and Allied terrorist monsters slaughtering christians and other muslim sects, but right on the anniversary of 9/11 Obama announced he's arming them. Article 3 Section 3 of the Constitution has a few words on what a person who arms and supports the enemies of the USA is to be considered, but "defense contractor" control and shareholder profits trump any old piece of parchment
How long before The Clapper or one of the other tools comes out to praise the NSA and blanket surveillance for locating these two?
The Military Industrial Complex is Open for Business during the shutdown, of course. But, Obama finds it necessary to throw a tantrum and go out of his way to erect barricades around open-air memorials so people can't go look at them.
The US is a country to be ashamed of, that's for sure.
CNN reports that two separate U.S. military operations have taken place this weekend in Africa; the first in Tripoli, the second in Somalia. "In the earlier raid, U.S. forces captured Abu Anas al Libi, an al Qaeda operative wanted for his role in the deadly 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa. In the second raid, a team of U.S. Navy SEALs in southern Somalia targeted the top leader of Al-Shabaab, a terrorist group linked with al Qaeda." According to the report, it's unclear for now whether the second of these attempts was successful. Unsurprisingly, the Libyan raid has raised the ire of the interim government there, which has objected to the U.S. arrest and removal of al Libi (to an undisclosed placed outside of Libya) as a kidnapping.
I stopped reading after the 2nd word.
Were the strikes based on the interviews with the suspect in the mainstream media over the course of the last year since the attack occurred?
Ken
The "sides" of a conflict win or lose,depending on what their respective PR clerks consider apropiate to divulge.
The individuals involved , however , can only lose.
Of the nine U.S. Unified Combatant Commands, AFRICOM (United States Africa Command) is the newest. Both W and Obama have expressed significant interest in expanding the role of U.S. operations in Africa, for purposes of counter-terorrism and a desire to improve stability (ironically, special operations forces are historically used to invoke instability in a nation-state). The Obama operations in Libya during its civil war was actually AFRICOM's coming-out party, its first chance to be a real boy.
Since then, AFRICOM has moved forward in supporting policy roles by expanding U.S. military facilities, particularly those supporting drone operations, on the continent. this implied that special operations were the next step--why just spy on a terrorist cell when you can try and capture it's leader, too?--so learning about these events is not a big surprise. However, the relative failure of these efforts (at least the Somalia operation--the Tripoli operation may or may not be a disappointment at the policy level, depending on how sincere their protests are) is something of a black mark on AFRICOM's plans. There is some serious head-scratching going on, I am certain, and the role of tactical operations is likely being re-evaluated.
Major Fuck up by DoD!
No excuse.
The real targets got away! This is like Jimmy Carter's Desert One in replay.
Butt Fuck Obama and his 'Care Operations'.
It's a worrying facet of law in the US, that it doesn't in general recognise territorial limits to its jurisdiction** (and that when the matter has been challenged in court, extraterritorial application of law has found to be perfectly legal). Whether a law is limited is down to a case-by-case examination. So - do anything, anywhere in the world, that's illegal in US criminal law, and the US will, in principle, charge you with it if it gets its hands on you - and will, and has on many occasions, do whatever it can "legally" get away with to get hold of "criminals" in order to bring them to trial (where "legally" is conveniently defined by the US, rather than some tin-pot, third-world country of no consequence, such as, say, China or Russia). Doesn't matter if what you did was perfectly legal in the country in question; US law doesn't care. Which comes down far too often of late to a US "might is right" approach - the US will do whatever it feels it can get away with. But then, no-one needed me to tell them that.
**Read, for example, the following Congressional research document: "Extraterritorial Application of American Criminal Law".
That sounds like the Iraqi Information Minister, and is likely as truthful.