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UCSD Students Test Fire 3D-Printed Metal Rocket Engine

schwit1 writes "Like something out of a Robert Heinlein novel, students at the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) have built a metal rocket engine using a technique previously confined to NASA. Earlier this month, the UCSD chapter of the Students for the Exploration and Development of Space (SEDS) at the Jacobs School of Engineering conducted a hot fire test for a 3D-printed metal rocket engine at the Friends of Amateur Rocketry launch site in California's Mojave Desert. This is the first such test of a printed liquid-fueled, metal rocket engine by any university in the world and the first designed and printed outside of NASA."

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  1. So did it work? by Arancaytar · · Score: 4, Informative

    News summaries are allowed to contain spoilers, you know.

    (RTFA, and it did work.)

    1. Re:So did it work? by moteyalpha · · Score: 2

      It was an interesting article. I was hoping for something more detailed and technical as well as new. Printed guns got a lot of coverage and I thought that was just a way to get attention through controversy. A rocket that could be -completely- printed would be a far more effective weapon. What I did not appreciate was a gizmag popup that asked for my email to subscribe. I am capable of discovering what I want to read and when.

    2. Re:So did it work? by camperdave · · Score: 2

      News summaries are allowed to contain spoilers, you know.

      (RTFA, and it did work.)

      No, The summary did just what it was supposed to do: entice you to Read The Fancy Article. If it contianed the spoiler, you wouldn't have read the article.

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    3. Re:So did it work? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      >> News summaries are allowed to contain spoilers, you know.

      He doesn't fix the cable.

    4. Re:So did it work? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I'm impressed. I saw the welding job done on the engine, and marveled that the engine did work, and without killing anyone. Maybe the Tritons on the follow up class project can sign up for an elementry welding class at the local La Jolla High School ROP Welding Class.

      Good job Tritons, but seriously, there are cheap machines for that kind of welding that Boeing, and NASA have laying around doing nothing; borrow one.

    5. Re:So did it work? by Smauler · · Score: 1

      Rockets have been made with 3d printing before.

      "This is the first such test of a printed liquid-fueled, metal rocket engine by any university in the world and the first designed and printed outside of NASA."

      Could someone with a little bit of knowledge tell me what the difficulties with this technology are, and what the advantages are over other rocket technology.

      I'm not a rocket scientist (I never thought I'd say that seriously ;)).

    6. Re:So did it work? by Optali · · Score: 1

      The difference is that previous 3D printed engines had been made by NASA while this one has been made by students.

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  2. Re:O_o by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 1

    An ugly bag of mostly water.

  3. Re:O_o by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    There was a young lady from Venus, whose body looked like a...

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  4. Re:O_o by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 1

    Your fate will be quick, but quite heinous:
    A spacecraft will land on...

  5. Really? by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 2

    "and the first designed and printed outside of NASA"

    How do you know? I am thinking a lot of countries out there are not so open about the goings on in their research labs. Same goes for the US military. My guess is that if NASA is already on the public record for X, quite a few organisations in the world have done Y, where Y > X.

    1. Re:Really? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      I would find it strange of no rocket amateur has had access to a metal sls printer and used it for something if just as to do it. those machines aren't _that_ obscure anymore and you can order your parts online from a model.

      of course scale being entirely different but the concept same..

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  6. Robotics by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    3d metal printing - the possibilities for robotics projects excite me, although the dawning of skynet also fills me with dread.

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    1. Re:Robotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      the dawning of skynet also fills me with dread.

      ... says MrKaos.

  7. Re:limitations of material by OptimalCynic · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    In addition, printed alloys have greater tensile strength than castings.

  8. Re:limitations of material by rotorbudd · · Score: 1

    I was wondering about this when I saw this in the article " In addition, printed alloys have greater tensile strength than castings."
    Sintered is stronger than cast when both are heat treated, etc.?

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  9. Re:O_o by pjbgravely · · Score: 1

    A human, read The Marching Morons by Cyril M. Kornbluth.

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  10. Re:TRY THE HOBBY STORE !! by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    No kidding. Everyone knows that 3D printing is for making gunz. . They have absolutely no other purposes. [/sarcasm]

  11. Re:limitations of material by ThreeKelvin · · Score: 2

    Castings, sure. But rocket engines are usually welded. It's not really a usefull comparison.

  12. Re:No cooling ducts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Huh? It DOES. It has a regenerative cooling jacket, just like most every liquid-fueled rocket engine or your exhaust nozzle would melt rapidly.

    Mod parent -1 Misinformed.

  13. Re:No cooling ducts? by weilawei · · Score: 1

    AC is right.

  14. to clarify by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "and the first designed and printed outside of NASA" is wrong. See, for example, reports on http://rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com/ where the author designed and later tested on the static fire stand a 3D-printed engine. No NASA connection.

    It's not an only example either. If you have follower Northrop Grumman Lunar Lander Challenge, you might remember Unreasonable Rocket team, which some considered as third best. In 2010 fall the blog http://unreasonablerocket.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html describes their experiments with 3D-printed engines.

    Yes, this article states: "The rocket has a regenerative cooling jacket that extends to the nozzle to keep the engine cool while firing."

    No, the modern milling is nowhere as convenient as 3D-printing for making this kind of engine. You can't mill channels from one piece, and welding - or soldering, as Russians used to do - greatly adds complexity to the process.

    Yes, 3D-printed detail is not usually as strong as a milled one. However the difference in strength could be relatively small (see, e.g., http://www.morristech.com/Docs/CoCrDataSheet.pdf). For rocket engines the thrust-to-weight ratio is important, but still allowing for some compromises parameter.

    The main advantage of using 3D-printers for rocket engines is simplicity of the process and rapid turnaround with designs. Both are important in order to get things right reasonably fast. For non-NASA, it could also mean money savings - since the main chamber with nozzle and collectors can be a single piece, single price item, and the remaining parts are relatively inexpensive.

    3D-printing has some relationships to powder metallurgy, which was under development as a promising technology some decades ago. Today with 3D-printers you can have, for example, an engine made of steel infused with bronze - having good both mechanical and thermal properties.

  15. Unreasonable Rocket - 2011 by Somegeek · · Score: 1

    Paul Breed was 3D printing liquid fuel rocket motors in 2010 and was test firing them by 2011. His test firings also took place at FAR, the same facility mentioned in this article.

    Here is a link to Paul's blogs that (somewhat) relate to his experiments with printed engines:
    Unreasonable Rocket

    I believe that he beat NASA and everyone else out of the gate with this technique.

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    1. Re:Unreasonable Rocket - 2011 by jstults · · Score: 1

      See also this Direct Metal Laser Sintered (DMLS) 3-D printed regeneratively cooled engine: http://rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com/2011/07/testing-update.html http://rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com/2013/09/seeing-triple.html

  16. they're clearly visible... by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    When I saw the header, I thought that the rocket engine would have 3D-printed cooling ducts around its nozzle. It is something that Apollo / space shuttle - sized rocket engines have, but which can be quite complex. This engine doesn't.

    The article clearly states: "The rocket has a regenerative cooling jacket that extends to the nozzle."

    The jackets/piping are clearly visible in all the photos, too...

  17. ObPi by tristes_tigres · · Score: 1

    It only counts if they used "Raspberry Pi" to control the firing.

    (no hipsters were hurt in the production of this post)

  18. Let the next arms race begin printing! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    Now we need 3D printed metal mini-rockets that can shoot down these rockets, to put on commercial planes to stop the inevitable in 10 years.

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  19. Re:limitations of material by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine from Monash University told me he attended a demonstration of a 3D printer that used stainless steel as a medium.

    This goes a little bit beyond sintered epoxy-bronze powders in terms of strength.

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  20. Re:Why does 'printed' matter by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

    Printing a metal part can include blind voids that are difficult or impossible to do with a milling machine. And see my post above regarding 3D printing with stainless steel media.

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