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Silicon Supercapacitor Promises Built-in Energy Storage For Electronic Devices

Science_afficionado writes "A news release from Vanderbilt University begins, 'Solar cells that produce electricity 24/7, not just when the sun is shining. Mobile phones with built-in power cells that recharge in seconds and work for weeks between charges. These are just two of the possibilities raised by a novel supercapacitor design invented by material scientists ... that is described in a paper published in the Oct. 22 issue of the journal Scientific Reports. It is the first supercapacitor that is made out of silicon so it can be built into a silicon chip along with the microelectronic circuitry that it powers. In fact, it should be possible to construct these power cells out of the excess silicon that exists in the current generation of solar cells, sensors, mobile phones and a variety of other electromechanical devices, providing a considerable cost savings. ... Instead of storing energy in chemical reactions the way batteries do, “supercaps” store electricity by assembling ions on the surface of a porous material. As a result, they tend to charge and discharge in minutes, instead of hours, and operate for a few million cycles, instead of a few thousand cycles like batteries.' The full academic paper is available online."

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  1. Meh by DCFusor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call me when a supercap has anything like the energy density - by any measure of cubic or weight - as a battery. Till then, they have only niche uses. I've seen various supercap articles that were about tech that was "About to change the world" for how many decades now? OK, sooner or later, they might...I'm still waiting, and I ain't gonna live for as many more decades as I've already been waiting. Till then, I'll drive my Volt.

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    1. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You didn't leave us your number, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Meh by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Um, I'd think this would be a pretty big deal for computers. I'm not sure if you've looked lately, but the boards are covered in caps made of all kinds of materials, some rather rare. Direct integration with SSDs is the first major use I can see off the top of my head.

    3. Re:Meh by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      They've a few other advantages. Their power density is huge, which is great for things that need brief but very high-power surges.

      I used a few of them in hobbyist high-power engineering to power the solonoid on an experiment. Five hundred amps DC at 12V with ease. Any attempt to do that with batteries or a high-current PSU would have taken up half the living room.

      The experiment was to determine the effect a high magnetic field would have on an arc. It was quite the success: The arc behaved very differently indeed in the presence of the field.

    4. Re:Meh by Xiph · · Score: 2, Informative

      Call me when a supercap has anything like the energy density - by any measure of cubic or weight - as a battery. Till then, they have only niche uses. I've seen various supercap articles that were about tech that was "About to change the world" for how many decades now? OK, sooner or later, they might...I'm still waiting, and I ain't gonna live for as many more decades as I've already been waiting. Till then, I'll drive my Volt.

      DCFusor, you forgot one thing to be informative.

      The article states their power density around 13wh/kg in one of their diagrams.
      While l-ion batteries are up to 1500 wh/kg (common ones are however much less often around 500 wh/kg)

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    5. Re:Meh by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

      I used a few of them in hobbyist high-power engineering to power the solonoid on an experiment. Five hundred amps DC at 12V with ease.

      Not a "supercap "you didn't
      They tend to have several ohms ESR. Low ESR supercaps are in the realm of 100m ohms. 500A at 12V requires a total system impedance of 0.024R.

    6. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      500 Wh/kg is higher than any shipping lithium ion battery that I've ever heard of, so I'm going to say that your numbers are complete BS.

      500 Wh/kg is available from lithium batteries, but not from rechargeable ones. Rechargeable ones are less than half of that.

    7. Re:Meh by jeff4747 · · Score: 2

      Good thing you didn't supply any "correct" values. Otherwise someone might accuse you of being helpful.

    8. Re:Meh by timeOday · · Score: 2

      Beat me to it. I just junked a computer because the capacitors were all leaky and it wouldn't run stable any more. If the chips (CPU, RAM, etc) didn't need capacitors any more because they had the necessary capacitance built right in, and it was solid-state, I think that would be great. It's not like they need to hold huge amounts of energy for long periods either.

    9. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Geeze - just hit Wikipedia and (assuming the sock puppets haven't been at it), look at the specific energy:

      100–265 Wh/kg

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

      Nothing like trolling by a factor of 10 in the morning.

    10. Re:Meh by icebike · · Score: 2

      Not the same thing at all.

      The process here is not to replace capacitors, the process it to replace the battery.
      Capacitors in a circuit have an entirely different reason for being there than the battery. They are for very short term storage of potential or smoothing of power switching.

      If this works, and if it acquires any further attention and attracts funding, it might replace batteries in phones, but it won't replace capacitors in circuits.
       

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    11. Re:Meh by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

      Call me when a supercap has anything like the energy density - by any measure of cubic or weight - as a battery.

      Too true. The article says these new supercaps are "significantly better than commercial supercapacitors". How much better is "significantly"? Unless it's an order of magnitude or more, it's probably not that big a deal. Why? Because unlike batteries, whose voltage remains nearly constant for a large portion of their usable charge, capacitor voltage starts decreasing as soon as discharge begins. So for optimum usefulness you need to charge a supercap to higher than the system voltage, then regulate it down - and both of these processes have a major negative impact on efficiency, increase the cost, etc.

      That said, it would be cool to have large capacitors right on the die to provide higher peak current capability for drivers and such

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    12. Re:Meh by icebike · · Score: 2

      it might replace batteries in phones, but it won't replace capacitors in circuits.

      Why not?

      Well, I suppose it could, but that is not the focus of this research. What we use now in circuits is outrageously cheap, and fulfilling the need.

      What we have now in battery technology is very expensive, and barely keeping up with demand.

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    13. Re: Meh by drainbramage · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pretty high and mighty for a dude that owns a volt.
      Tell me when you have a columb.

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    14. Re:Meh by pcjunky · · Score: 2

      Even if you manged to get 0.1 farad, it would provide 12 volts for only a few milliseconds at 500 amps.

      Your average Lead - Acid car battery will put out 1000 amps into a dead short. Don't try this though, things tend to explode.

      Super capacitors tend to have very high ESR, no good for power filtering.

      Capacitors and inductors are the two things that don't reduce down to chip levels very well. One of the main reasons your cell phone isn't just one chip. Making these on chip is kind of a holly grael. If this were that easy chip makers would have done this long ago.

    15. Re:Meh by amirulbahr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Capacitors used on your motherboard are mostly there as part of filter circuits and therefore chosen for their unique transient response (i.e. exactly how they behave over time once a voltage is applied). In other words, the discharge rate matters. Can't be too fast, can't be too slow.

      Designing silicon based super caps for long term energy storage with slow discharge does not automatically mean that the same tech will replace regular electrolytic caps. I'm not saying they won't, haven't even read TFA, but the design goals are certainly distinct.

    16. Re: Meh by garyebickford · · Score: 2

      And he knows wherever we are, we'll come running

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    17. Re:Meh by wenchmagnet · · Score: 2

      On another tack, a company has just come out with a machine that you can put your old water bottles and other plastic bits into, and it will melt them down and turn them into the 'wire' that goes into another company's 3D printer, so you can make your own widgets and toys.



      Putting this together with the story about the oceans dying [http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/10/21/newser-ocean-pollution-overfishing/3143007/], perhaps we could build harvester/mining ships that could trawl the oceans for plastic flotsam/garbage and turn them into 3D printer "ink". Its hard to get people to clean up after themselves, but if there was money in it, people would go after this and it might actually help clean up some of our mess.
    18. Re:Meh by garyebickford · · Score: 2

      I think I recall reading that one of the people who first discovered this problem, (a researcher at U Washington?) has been running research ships out there to see if that can be done. There are two big problems. First, the stuff isn't all that thick - while it sounds like the ocean looks like a venue after a rock festival, the stuff is not very thick in the open ocean. Second, it actually degrades - the sun breaks it down to smaller and smaller bits as the plasticizers get broken down until it's basically molecular, then if it hasn't already been eaten by something, it gets eaten by bacteria but still not digested. So whatever you do has to be able to pull it out of the ocean at a very, very fine scale.

      The advantageous bit is that most of the great gyres where it collects are in open ocean which is a kind of blue desert - there's not a lot of biological activity; while the stuff that lands on island beaches can be collected locally. So my brilliant idea is to use the power of wind, geography and sun - build very large (possibly miles wide) autonomous sail-trawlers with fine net-like structures that are made of oil-attracting materials (possibly in a dual-element - one with enough strength to capture actual physical bits, one possibly in the form of jellyfish-like streamers to attract and capture the molecular stuff). The macro scale would have the sailing components connected by the net-like structures, and would look analogously like the Solar Eagle (which has several engine pods connected by wing structure).

      To avoid capturing sea life, rather than a regular net, the 'net-like' system would be more like a long complex of jellyfish streamers, or perhaps some form of kelp or very flexible feathers; many individual streamers that branch into smaller and smaller branches, all covered or made with the stuff that attracts oil and plastics.

      The key technology is the oil-attracting material. This exists, and it also is attracted to/attracts molecular-level plastics (think how hard it can be to remove oily stuff from a plastic container - it takes a strong detergent!). I think the feathery net-like structures would wrap themselves around larger pieces until they are covered, but fish should be able to get away. And as noted, that part of the ocean tends to be relatively poor in nutrients, and sea life. However three would almost certainly be casualties.

      So these systems would basically float around in the gyre, being pushed gently against the water in various directions according to wind, waves, and the coriolis effect. Periodically a tender vessel (possibly also autonomous) would come out and pull the net-like structures through a cleaning device to remove the plastic particles of all sizes. It could then use the material collected as fuel, or return it to a recycling facility.

      Alternatively, perhaps the system could work catalytically to break the plastics down to smaller molecules that then become real food for ocean bacteria and such. That seems like a few more steps up the technology ladder though.

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  2. This will be a GREAT way by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    to provide electricity for my flying car, and my holographic storage disks too!

  3. If I read correctly... a battery on the chip die? by mlts · · Score: 2

    If I read the article correctly, this would allow supercap batteries to be placed on the chip die. This doesn't sound like much, but it would be useful in keeping DRAM refreshed if there is a power outage for a brief bit, or enough juice to dump the DRAM to permanent storage (a small SSD.) If the processor state can be saved as well, this would allow a computer to start right back up almost exactly where it was before.

    Of course, this wouldn't be enough power to keep a modern day CPU like a POWER7 running at full tilt for any significant length of time, but it might be enough to get the machine's components to save its state and shut down cleanly.

    Then, there are the obvious uses for supercap batteries. A buffer for solar cells that can charge the regular batteries at exactly the power they need is one example, especially if combined with a MPPT controller. If the supercap cells are good enough with energy density, they could even be the primary batteries, although there was a patent application with working prototypes I read mentioned a bit ago [1] about high temperature batteries with a large energy density, and these would be a great candidate as primaries, while the supercaps would be additional storage, a buffer for optimal charging, and giving the ability to continue charging for a little bit of time once the solar panels stop receiving usable light.

    [1]: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1307/1307.1305.pdf

  4. No meh here by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Call me when a supercap has anything like the energy density - by any measure of cubic or weight - as a battery. Till then, they have only niche uses.

    The thing is, there are many applications where space and weight aren't an issue, but lifetime and power sourcing are. For instance, I have lots of room -- going ten X on the space involved isn't a problem for me in any way, but it'd be awesome to have a reliable, high-power capable storage system to replace the batteries I'm using now, which (a) aren't going to last very long and (b) are severely limited by comparison in terms of the maximum current that can be drawn from them.

    The real problem is just an engineering one: we need some standard systems to give us usable energy in standard ranges (12vdc and/or 120/240vac) from ultracap stacks. There's nothing hard about that, it's a market and demand issue, no more. Given the demand, designing the hardware is a doddle.

    And of course it's worth noting that UC size is going down while power is going up. Most likely, at some point they will cross the battery line, and that's the time to buy stock in whatever UC company pulls it off.

    Plus, instead of poisoning the environment with a dead battery, you can will your UCs to your kids. :)

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  5. Re:Release Date??? by fyngyrz · · Score: 2

    If there's no release date and price what is the purpose.

    The purpose is science, so we know how things work and what we can do. Technology you can personally leverage comes later. ALWAYS. You think the transistors on the ICs, and the ICs themselves, sprung into being in the first microprocessor systems? No, they were lab critters and no more than that, well prior to the 4004 and successors. Crude, hacky looking things of no direct use to anyone. But now look at them.

    I agree it's tantalizing to see and hear about such tech and not be able to use it, but this is the process, and there is no alternative that's obvious to me, nor apparently, anyone else.

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  6. Re:Release Date??? by dbIII · · Score: 2

    I hate that kind of consumer mentality - it actually gets in the way of any sort of progress.

  7. Self-storing solar energy? by kheldan · · Score: 2

    In fact, it should be possible to construct these power cells out of the excess silicon that exists in the current generation of solar cells, sensors, mobile phones and a variety of other electromechanical devices..

    Not sure if they're making a comparison here or proposing an application, but wouldn't it be pretty spiffy if you had photovoltaic cells that stored the energy they collect and convert from sunlight, so it's there to use when you need it? Not sure what the leakage factor for a supercap of this type would be compared to current technology supercaps, you'd still have some energy stored for an hour or two at least, and I think that would be a game-changer for solar power.

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