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Is 3D Printing the Future of Disaster Relief?

Daniel_Stuckey writes "Advocates for the technology say that it's only a matter of time before we're shipping raw materials and 3D printers instead of medical supplies to the site of a disaster. 3D printers are already being used in the medical field to create customized tracheal valves, umbilical cord clamps, splints, and even blood vessels. A group in Haiti is already using the umbilical cord clamps to show locals the potential for the technology. And it's only a matter of time before they get deployed in a disaster scenario, according to Thomas Campbell, a Virginia Tech professor and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council."

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  1. you guys are nuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Listen to yourselves. This is so delusional I don't even have the energy to explain it to you.

    1. Re:you guys are nuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This.

      In a real disaster the most important things are going to be food, water and shelter. I can't see 3D printers helping with the first two and I'm not sure I want to wait days for the 3D printer to make me up a tent.. assuming I have the power to run it...

    2. Re:you guys are nuts by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      probably not nuts, just hype / pump-and-dump.

    3. Re:you guys are nuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So are medical supplies.

    4. Re:you guys are nuts by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Medical supplies are rather uselss to someone who dies of thirst, too. What's your point?

    5. Re:you guys are nuts by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

      Medical supplies are rather uselss to someone who dies of thirst, too. What's your point?

      He may be thinking that additive manufacturing technology can print out a water fountain ?

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    6. Re:you guys are nuts by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      Everybody RUN!!!! Three-D Printers are going to be the future of disaster relief!!!! In a wierd ironic way, our leaders are so messed up, that I think that this headline -- which ends in a questionmark, and thus should be a instant "No", is instead an instant "yes".

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    7. Re:you guys are nuts by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      do you have any idea how many ubilical cord clamps would fit in the volume of a 3D printer and its supplies? more than needed by d babies produced right after a tsunami and reactor meltdown, I can tell you. also, dirty little secret of the trade, the clamps are unnecessary.

      The most needed medical supplies can't come out of a printer anyway. you won't be printing antibiotics. Unless we want to be like the tard that mentioned 3D printers can print food (if stoked with food)

  2. economics by KarlH420 · · Score: 2

    To me it seems crazy to spend so much on a 3-D printing costs when there are cheaper, easier solutions. The umbilical chord clamp: Teach people they can just leave the baby attached to the placenta till it dries out, or tie it of with string or anything else they have at hand before cutting the chord.

    1. Re:economics by dkf · · Score: 1

      But dried babies don't make good child soldiers when they get older. The guns for which will come hot off the 3d press :)

      Just 3D print the babies pre-dried.

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    2. Re:economics by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      The umbilical chord clamp: Teach people they can just leave the baby attached to the placenta till it dries out, or tie it of with string or anything else they have at hand before cutting the chord.

      AIUI, there is a notable risk of the baby being deprived of oxygen due to blood being diverted to the placenta, not to mention the fact that the plancenta is fragile and presents a vulnerable spot which could result in bleeding out. For the peak of the evolutionary ladder, us humans are pretty defective animals. (Although I think the traditional way of dealing with this was just to tie a knot in the cord itself by hand.)

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    3. Re:economics by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Although I think the traditional way of dealing with this was just to tie a knot in the cord itself by hand.

      Ever touched one? When you were old enough to remember it, I mean.

      They're really thick and gristly; the vein inside is like a nylon rope. It'd be very difficult to knot it tight enough to seal it.

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  3. It can ALREADY print food. by SinisterRainbow · · Score: 1

    You haven't been keeping up with 3d printer developments. It can already print food. It's just a matter of time before it can do so cheaply. It's the next big thing every kitchen will have. Making something for dinner will have a whole new meaning. Example 1: http://www.psfk.com/2013/10/3d-printed-bread-pasta.html Example 2: http://3dprintingindustry.com/2012/11/18/video-3d-printing-chocolate/

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    1. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's the point printing food with food?
      BS

    2. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      http://www.psfk.com/2013/10/3d-printed-bread-pasta.html

      Takes a day to "print" food in unmentioned quantities, social media enabled, input is already food. Not sure how this will be better than emergency rations that can be made available in large volume in minutes.

      http://3dprintingindustry.com/2012/11/18/video-3d-printing-chocolate/

      That is revolutionary, it produces chocolate turtles from molten chocolate, the worlds hunger problems are solved /sarcasm

      Neither of these inventions actually produce food in a way that would help in a disaster unless your disaster fits into /r/firstworldproblems.

    3. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by Patch86 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't print food. It prints with food. If your kitchen printer can make a printed chocolate bar, you already had edible chocolate. If you can print pasta, you already had flour and water and could have made a passable flatbread with nothing more than a mixing bowl and a hot skillet.

      In a disaster zone, the shape of the food is not the priority. Just having calories and vitamins, in any form, will do.

    4. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Example 1: http://www.psfk.com/2013/10/3d-printed-bread-pasta.html

      What a ridiculous argument. This isn't even an article. It's 2 paragraphs which just say that in future, we might be able to print pasta or dough.
      You're wasting your time with this crap.

    5. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      The dire circumstances don't last long. The event happens, then there is a disruption in local processes and supply chain. For a few days, a printer might be somewhat beneficial.

      But rapid repair of supply chain is key. Simple calories won't do the job for long. Fresh potable water and cholera prevention comes next, with decent nutrition; calories are only a part of it.

      Printing pasta is simply silly. If you have a disaster, power availability is unlikely. Alchemy still requires magic, something also unavailable during a disaster. Printers cost money, and as much as a sixth of the world goes hungry every day, so buying the printer, the supplies, even the basics like a kitchen are a struggle.

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    6. Re:It can ALREADY print food. by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, we can make edible food with just flour and water even blindfold,

      If it's edible, we survive the disaster. Isn't that the point here?

      but automated manufacturing systems (3D printers are just one, and will evolve)

      It's a disaster. Exactly how many "automated manufacturing systems" are you planning to magically have available (with the power to run them)?

      With flour, water, some fire source, and a flat surface that can survive heating, I can make flatbread in a matter of minutes. Your solution depends on complex technology being available and power to run it.

      can in principle create vastly more complex products using large numbers of ingredients or components and with microscopic precision.

      Umm, again, it's a freakin' disaster. Does anyone really give a crap about doing anything with "microscopic precision"? We're looking to survive, not do a lab experiment.

      This would be totally beyond the capability of humans to reproduce in any reasonable span of time.

      Anything that's "beyond the capability of humans to reproduce in any reasonable span of time" is probably not needed in a disaster scenario.

  4. Emergency is not a disaster by houghi · · Score: 1

    In case of an emergency, a 3D printer might be a good thing. If you only need one. I also think that an umbilical cord clamps is the WORST example possible. Boil a clothing pin and you are done. Boil a piece of string and you are done.

    With a disaster you will have different priorities. A bnit like "Hello, do you need a tracheal valves? I am sorry you will die, but Imma gonna save these 5.000 other people first."

    I hate it when people mix up emergency and disaster almost as much as people mixing up heroic and courageous.

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    1. Re:Emergency is not a disaster by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's not clear from the article, but I think the 3d printed device goes inside the trachea and holds it open, rather than being used to create a new airway via an incision.

      Still, when you've hundreds of patients to treat you're going to do the simple basics to keep them alive first. Tidying up can come later.

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  5. No by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not? If it is disaster you just want to rip open a bag and have the item you want right there and then.

    Not have to depend on a 3D printer that may or may not have been damaged, materials that may or may not have been contaminated, electricity supply that may or may not work and operator who may or may not be available. You just want to grab a sealed bag and use its contents straight away.

    Furthermore, Haiti only needs to print these clamps because its entire social structure is so corrupt that money that was send to buy these clamps did not arrive and any medical supplies get stolen. How long do you think it will be before 3d printers go missing same as emergency generators have gone missing? The Haiti disaster is NOT the earth quake anymore it is the total corruption of its society and funneling in expensive toys will not fix it.

    Ten to one within a month this 3d printer will have sprouted legs and walked out of the building.

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  6. Re:Yeah, in 500 years... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    In a case of disaster, you'll probably not have unlimited energy even if otherwise you'd have.

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  7. Re:Yeah, in 500 years... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    for spare parts, obviously.
    or creating moulds for mass producing something.

    not really that energy inefficient though.. even if a bit slow.

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  8. Re:It can ALREADY print food... not so much by jpatters · · Score: 2

    Regarding your first example, it is a machine that makes bread (I guess in various shapes) out of dough, but if you have the dough, a regular bread machine would be more efficient, and a regular oven would be even more efficient as long as you have a human available to kneed the dough. And many kinds of ovens work without electricity.

    Regarding the second example, it is a machine that makes shaped chocolates, which will be poorly tempered compared to molded chocolates, and once again, you have to have the chocolate as an input. Setting aside for a moment the question of weather chocolate is an appropriate thing to spend disaster resources on; if you are in a disaster area, who cares if the chocolate candies are shaped like turtles? I know this is just an example, and your argument is intended to imply that the state of the art of 3D printed food is constantly advancing, it still faces the fundamental limitation that you have to have the food already, there is no forthcoming breakthrough that will synthesize food from constituent chemical elements. You know, other than regular old agriculture.

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  9. Additive manufacturing ... by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2

    While the idea behind utilizing the additive manufacturing technology in helping out emergency medical cases right inside the disaster area sounds probable, the title of TFA ( " Is 3D Printing the Future of Disaster Relief? " )is totally bonker.

    Whoever wrote TFA had never worked in disaster relief --- else the writer would know that the logistic requirement in association with the additive manufacturing (clean room, electricity supply, et cetera) is hard to come by in a true disaster scenario.

    That is why most of the seriously injured vitims were routinely been transported OUT of the disaster area because much better conditions exists outside rather than inside the disaster area.

    Plus, do not ever forget that additive manufacturing technology as what we have right now is SUPER SLOW.

    To print out a simple gadget takes hours.

    That is, you already have the configuration file ready.

    In an emergency situation, where can you find people who can produce the base file to make an implantable medical device ?

    And ...

    There are a lot nano-size DUST left over in the additive manufacturing process. That in itself creates another logistical headache for the disaster relief operation.

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    1. Re:Additive manufacturing ... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      I think the real advantage of 3D printing here is the simple nightmare of logistics. How many different little medical bits and bobs are there? Are you going to ship a huge load of everything you might need to wherever the doctors are attending? Probably not.

      So what's the options? At the moment you either tie up your helicopters on courier duty to get the goods where they're needed on demand, or the operation's going to have to wait until the next delivery is due, or you're going to have to send a car out on a long journey... if the road's intact.

      3D printing may be slow, but if it's quicker than the alternative, that's good enough.

      But it's not a long-term solution -- the future of disaster relief is clearly unmanned drones. While a full-sized chopper is too expensive and valuable a resource to tie up on small jobs, a fleet of autonomous GPS-guided polycopters will be able to redistribute specialist supplies quickly and efficiently, and will circumvent the operational difficulties of a 3D printer. Soon the most important item in a relief-worker's kit bag will be a beacon to mark the designated "helipad".

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    2. Re:Additive manufacturing ... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      The saying goes, "an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure." A cursory reading of the title, "...the Future of..." already confesses inadequacy. As for 3D printing, many have raised a good point. How about feeding the victims? That technology already exists at ones local Arby's.

  10. Re:Performance by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    what could happen is

    Hey bob crates number 345d and 765f didn't make it

    anything useable??

    no some of the stuff we can grind for raws but its all trashed

    okay check the manifest and see what we need to print off.

    Im going to tell our interns they have to peddle double time until we get the generators up

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  11. Maybe a bit useful by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

    You could burn the boxes they are shipped in for heat. You could rip out the wiring and use it for tourniquets. You could pile them up to make shelter walls.

    Lots of uses.

  12. Re:No by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Insightful
    It's a lot easier to hot-drop a printer and extra spools of materials than it would be to drop a crap-load of different supplies which may or may not contain what you need right now. It still has problems, like how you power it and insure it's not damaged when it lands after you shove it out of the back of the plane at 500 feet. If you can get it down to one box and possibly extra spools of material and it prints reasonably quickly it's not a bad idea. I assume the idea is that on the ground you have some idea of what you're going to need immediately, until better supplies arrive. Logistically that's a lot easier than getting a custom package together (Assuming you manage to radio or otherwise communicate out what you need) and making sure it all stays together when you chuck it out of the plane.

    It would take a fair bit of work to get current printers to the point where they'd be useful in that situation, though. You don't necessarily have access to power or a laptop on the ground, so the whole package they'd have to drop would need to be self-contained and have a built-in list of shapes it could print. It would also have to print reasonably quickly and with reasonably good precision.

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  13. Re:It can ALREADY print food... not so much by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

    Regarding your first example, it is a machine that makes bread (I guess in various shapes) out of dough, but if you have the dough, a regular bread machine would be more efficient, and a regular oven would be even more efficient as long as you have a human available to kneed the dough. And many kinds of ovens work without electricity.

    Just to clarify, I would imagine the first example would be targeted more to specialized pasta shapes. So if you have to have your "bowtie" or "corkscrew" pasta in the middle of a disaster, you could make it, I guess.

    On the other hand, most people in the world don't mind eating dried pasta (which is probably about the quality this thing will put out anyway), and dried pasta stores about as well as the flour you'd need to make the pasta dough anyway. So why not just store your bowtie pasta for the emergency?

    As for fresh bread, you don't even need a human to knead the dough. Most cultures have some form of flatbread where it's possible to just mix the dough together, maybe rest it for a while, and then bake/cook (pizza, naan, tortillas, etc.). And even if you wanted risen loaves of bread, there are plenty of ways to produce passable (and even superior) bread without kneading. It really would only require someone to be able to mix the dough, wait until it rises, and throw it into an oven to bake it.

    In a true disaster scenario, people aren't looking to dine on al dente tagliatelle and a crusty hearth-fired artisan bread. Making bread and pasta is just not that hard. And besides, I have sincere doubts that any 3-D printer can replicate the texture and taste of artisan bread anytime soon, since it depends so much on the changes produced in the dough as a whole during long fermentation. Wonderbread in funny shapes, maybe. Good bread? I doubt it.

  14. 3D printers are slow and require a lot of arcane by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    knowledge to get a good result. They are fine for doing 1-off custom parts where you can afford to wait for the result, but they don't make any sense at all in a disaster relief situation where you need many identical items quickly. Take umbilical cord clips as the example- there is no need for customization, no need to wait for a 3D printer to produce them. It is MUCH simpler to send a bunch of them in a bag.

    Where is the printer going to get power in a disaster zone? Now you're talking about flying in people, printers, generators, etc.

  15. Long-term/Short-Term by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

    Being the hardcore cynic I am (and by the way, I own my own 3D printer), I tend to see news like this as some politician somewhere deciding to apply a new shiny toy to a lingering problem to make it look as if technology is the answer and progress is being made, when those of us who bother to look know that this is just a bandage on a festering wound. First and foremost, it's food, water, medical supplies and shelter that are necessary (and, as a camper, I'd say fresh clothing at times goes a long way). Those things are the short-term priority. Get people in the most bare-bones survivable shape. Then, IF things are stabilized and IF some supplier can't meet the needs of the boots on the ground because whatever red tape, it'll be the boots on the ground that will come up with a solution that doesn't involve some expensive toy that some suit 20 miles back from the front line is using to make himself look like an innovator. But it won't be a 3D printer they'll use. Not given the current state of the technology or the materials: the plastics are neither sterile nor food-grade (if they are, they're not cheap enough to deploy large-scale), and the toys are not fast enough, unless you've got a months-long timeline and you can anticipate your changing needs fast enough.

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  16. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We can either send in ten million dollars of cheap food and relatively cheap medical supplies, or we can send one hundred million dollars worth of diesel, generators, and ABS plastic and printable dough, and printers. Hmmm.... decisions, decisions. Man I sure do hope they have a port up and running to get all that fuel there so we can have the power to print a bunch of fucking trinkets.

  17. Re:Yeah, in 500 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    you aint thinkin, there are MASSIVE opportunities for curtain rings and chess pieces in a disaster zone, sheesh

  18. Re:No by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Because sending in by the ton is a slow and difficult process.

    I take it feedstock for 3D printers is weightless, then? Or does it just happen to be lying around on the ground when and where mother nature does her worst?

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  19. Re:Performance by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    they have to peddle double time

    There's a disaster and people are only concerned with profits? Despicable!

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  20. Missing the Point about Printing Food by stating.. by SinisterRainbow · · Score: 2

    ...by stating the obvious. Who doesn't realize it's better to bring MREs and what have you at this date and time.. But this is being misunderstood on many levels. 1) COST. 3d printing is the future, and most of you know it. If it's as ubiquitous as the microwave, you can bet the machines themselves will be damn cheap, but that's the small point. The big point is related to : 2) SUPPLY. Do you bring a cake to a disaster site, or would it actually be CHEAPER to bring the supplies and 'bake it one site cheaply'? You bring flour and concentrated eggs. What's more expensive, set up a kitchen, or a printer? Don't tell me you bring MREs and feed people for WEEKS on these things. Does FEMA do this now? Of course not. 3) FLEXIBILITY: How many bandaids do you need? need a broken pipe fixed immediately with a special hard to find part? 3d printers will be EVERYWHERE, especially in NICHE markets where you may need anything on a moments notice, or where you can't predict supply, it'll be cheaper than overshipping, and better than not shipping enough. Since you can use, and will be able to use more, a variety of materials in multiple ways. You need pipes, pliers, medical tools? Bring a couple chunks of metal in perfect squares that stack neatly and can be printed in a million ways. 4) THE OBVIOUS IS NOT YOUR OBVIOUS: Who cares if it's the future, it's definitely not the "far" future. People are thinking about ways in which the technology will truly be beneficial. FEMA already deploys tons of it's own power.. What's wrong with a generator and solar cells? They are already shipped en masse. Do you all know anything about disaster relief? Just felt like being opinionated on it? The negative sentiment misses the points of everything entirely..

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  21. Re:No by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    your ignorance is astounding. emergency operations are performed with very small amount of reusable tools. I have a retired friend who does improvised operations in mexico for the poor as part of mission work, all he uses fits in trunk of a small car. All the bulky things needed, anesthesia and antibiotics and medications and bandages, don't and won't come out of a printer. although using logic by the tard's who are the subject of this article they'd send in an automatic loom to weave bandages from cotton balls.

  22. Re:What a Relief! by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    We are the gray goo...

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  23. Re:No by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    a 3d printer and raw supplies are not weightless and you have to wait hours before getting one produced good out of them, meanwhile for the same space and weight you could send thousands of any of the items listed in the summary

  24. Please stop saving the world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I spent three years working in refugee camps in Africa. I also spent a year as with the Army at a remote firebase in Afghanistan. FWIW. And I agree that this really is delusional. This is the last thing I would want to have to deal with, for all the reasons cited above.

    On a more general note, this article is Exhibit A of a certain bizarre phenomenon of current tech culture. It seems that many people feel they have to justify the worth of novel innovations by showing that they are a benefit to big-H Humanity. It is not enough to be merely amazing, cool or useful. And a common and tactic is to imagine that the innovation were made available to the most destitute people on earth, and to then assume that this will save them. After all, this innovation is awesome, and the conditions of the most destitute people on earth can only go up, so this has to improve their lives, right? Well, no. These archetypical worst-case scenarios almost never exist, and there is no reason to assume that your PhD thesis is useful to anyone. Air-drops almost never happen. They certainly never happen in place where a technician is able to drive in and operate skilled machinery. Most emergencies happen not too far from cities where there are manufacturing facilities or logistics hubs, and where delivery is charged by weight. Most necessary products are common commodities; they were used before, and there is a supply chain to get them now. And intricate machines cause more problems than they solve. (Before you promise me that these products will be ruggedized in the future, you go spend a year maintaining a diesel generator in Darfur.) That may be mundane, but in disasters life turns on mundane shit.

    I wish that promoters of technology would satisfy themselves with more modest and more defensible claims. It would show a better understanding of the world, and of how technology interacts with the world. This relegates technologists to something less than world-changers, but what do they expect?

    Here's what I took away from the article: 3D printing is a cool educational tool for teenagers, including teenagers in Haiti; and some Americans like to travel to Haiti. There's nothing inadequate about that.

    1. Re:Please stop saving the world by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

      The One Laptop Per Child program struck me in a similar way. The idea of giving laptops to kids who don't have basic stuff like running water and decent medical care always struck me as a pretty bizarre use of resources.

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  25. Grand unrealized visions by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's just me but I get the sense that 3D printing in the near term is going to be the next dotcom crash. Why? Well, in my own research on the product offerings that are out there, they just don't live up to the hype. Sure the companies are great at showing you tiny trinkets and endless variations of cellphone bumpers. So what? I looked into this to see if printing electronics enclosures on demand would be a viable method of manufacture. Most machines couldn't print anything big enough (exceeding 8"x6"x4"). Those that could would take around 8 hours to print it. Even then, none of the companies talk about the failure rate. Imagine getting 7 hours into the print only to have the thing screw up. What hammer this point home is the fact that one company is now making a machine to chop up failed prints to be reconstituted back into new filament. This is the desktop machines of course. But the companies like Shapeways who have industrial-grade equipment are so expensive that it's not worth it for anything but a prototype.

    My point is that in the late 90s, everybody was spending obscene amounts of money on the latest dotcom IPOs who had no concrete product and no revenue. Eventually, people pulled back the curtain to see that there wasn't even a guy pretending to be the wizard. Of course, once the smoke cleared, companies with realistic business plans and products emerged and that's where we are now. IMHO, the same this is going to happen to the 3D printing industry. Reality will clear the decks of the wannabes. But then some big improvements to the technology will have to emerge that will decrease printing time dramatically while dramatically reducing failure rates.

  26. Slashvertisement by couchslug · · Score: 1

    ISO containers of ready-to-use supplies won't require time to produce onsite because they are, wait for it, ready to use.

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  27. Re:Performance by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    you're presenting a strawman

    Can you make those with a 3D printer?

    At least you could stack them up for shelter (straw's a great insulator) or burn them to keep warm. Protip: Don't mix those two approaches.

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  28. It is a question of term, nothing more by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Today, the answer is no. It would be dumb. Do some statistical analysis, figure out what you're most likely to need, stock as much as possible and have a line on more in case of an emergency.

    Tomorrow, for some value of tomorrow, the answer will be yes. Because 3D printers will be a proven technology and every hospital will have several on hand to make custom-sized artificial limbs and all the kinds of crap discussed in this article.

    In between, the answer will be mostly no.

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  29. Re:Missing the Point about Printing Food by statin by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

    Interesting post. Yes, 3D Printing is very promising. But this need correction...

    > What's more expensive, set up a kitchen, or a printer?

    A kitchen is way cheaper to setup and run -- whether feeding a few, or a crowd. Its going to stay that way - kitchen technology is not going to stay static.

    Think of kitchens as food printers that have been improved thousands of years :D If printers *will* be everywhere, kitchens *are* everywhere - they are way more important for us than printers.

  30. Re:Missing the Point about Printing Food by statin by SinisterRainbow · · Score: 1

    I agree, it won't stay static, but I'd bet on the food printer in the medium run. I don't see a future kitchen without a food printer to be honest. The power of it alone is like nothing else.. it could remove entire industries and free them up for other things to lead innovation in new ways. just food printing alone eliminates cooking time, horrible fast food, multiple appliances, eventually expense, and definitely food waste.. It adds quality preparation, multitude of recipes, reduced space, perfect nutrition if that's your goal, it could add more taste, way better than I can cook or most of us. 3d printing overall may be out best bet on humanity's major breakthrough for boosting quality of life. Moreso than computers. More and more jobs are freed up for sciences, tech, jobs that innovate and improve the world.. It eliminates space - warehouses, inefficient distribution, inefficient supply, and therefore reduced costs... Hundreds of thousands of store chains eventually. More time to focus on design, on invention and innovation, on research... On relaxing even or being a bum.

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  31. Electricity: This is for hospitals by DrYak · · Score: 1

    They also need electricity, which is by no means guaranteed at a disaster site.

    But the current idea is to 3d-print medical supplies, which in theory should be used by medical teams, which are supposed to have some level of self-sustainability in case of emergency.
    Most hospitals are designed to be able to run unaffected under almost all circumstences, except only the harshest. And even then, they not completely shut down, they route power to the most critical part. (The TVs in the patient room may not be operationnal, but the surgery department is supposed to still be able to operate its patient).
    3D printers could in theory be operated unless the hospital has gone in "all energy only to surgery and ER" mode.

    Why waste what little electricity you have at the disaster site making plastic crap when you could use power or stockpiled goods from an unaffected region and send in high quality equipment by the ton?

    Could be reversed in the other way:
    - why waste storage space for small plastic object that you could produce your self, when such storage space would be better suited to store critical stuff (drugs, etc.)
    - when the accessibility of a disastred area is limited (route have been blocked by the disaster. For exemple, that can happen more frequently than you think in the mountains, when a snow avalanches block road/rail access. Flying things is the only possible way. And until the new high-tech blimps come back into fashion, helicopters are the only way in), why waste resources bringing small plastic crap that you can produce your self? better concentrate the limited transport capabilites to transport what matters most (bring in: food, drugs, similar critical supplies, carrying out injured people that can't be treated locally)

    Of course, as of today, 3D Printing is really limited and can't be used much except for the most simple and un-cricital objects (clamps, caps of all sorts, etc.) and can't be constantly relied on.
    As technology improves, their role could expand to more object, freeing more storage-space to stockpile- and more transport capabilites to bring in- things that matters the most (drugs, food, etc.)

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  32. Re:Missing the Point about Printing Food by statin by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

    Hmm... All those print-head nozzles, heating elements, food containers, refrigeration requirements, loading of raw materials.

    And I dread the washing up :D At the very least, dishwashers will need to be totally reinvented. Or you'll have to print out a 'cleaning run' after printing food - which may not clean hygienically enough.

    No, I think food printing will remain a niche technology; maybe, used in molecular gastronomy. Elements may be incorporated into modern cookery, but Star-Trek like food synthesisers certainly won't be able to print anything close to strawberries and cream, chicken wings, or even a serving of rice in the medium term.

  33. Re:Missing the Point about Printing Food by statin by SinisterRainbow · · Score: 1

    I don't think it will print strawberries either :) There are a good amount of things it could be early on already that don't require baking or where ingredients do not need to extremely fresh. Anything that can be in powder form, certainly, sugars, proteins, vitamins included. The technology by itself will not only evolve, but food packaging technology will have incentive to evolve with it as it becomes more popular, so do those markets. If we look at the medium term, we're already seeing developments in synthetic meat - you surely have read about the synth burger.. good texture, lacking some flavor at the moment supposedly.. they are next working on adding more fats to it to give it better flavor.. It's possible these all congeal in the medium term and you can do things like casseroles or many kind of cooked meals.

    Even if not, you may get very flavorful food bars - full of nutrition - which sub in for breakfast, or for snacks or quick lunch/dinners. Or high protein snacks if you're working out. or help with diet plans by always knowing food nutritional information (and be quite precise about it).. However, this is worst case, it'll likely do quite a bit more if recent pasta developments in 3d are any indication.

    Given this likely worst case, it's still quite appealing for the masses. Zero time to make breakfast? Want snacks on hand in a variety of forms? I'm not sure that will be niche.. Going to the store to pick up bags of chips is no longer required.. It's very easy to store the raw ingredients and have them shipped.. Your kids can use it when you have no time to cook.. it can likely monitor nutritional content, good for the layman and those on diets or need special eating habits.

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