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Dell Fixes Ultrabook That Smelled of Cat Urine

Sockatume writes "The BBC is reporting that Dell's Latitude 6430u Ultrabooks have an interesting characteristic you won't find in any Macbook Air: the palm rest emits an odor like cat urine. An issue with a manufacturing process is thought to be to blame. Although Dell has assured potential customers that the issue has been fixed, reports in the Dell support forum indicate that units with the novel fragrance continue to ship out to users. Dell staff state that the palm rest will be replaced by Dell at no cost, but only if the unit is still under warranty."

133 comments

  1. Stands to reason by DougOtto · · Score: 4, Funny

    Runs like shit, smells like piss.

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    1. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Catchy, but I doubt Dell with go with that slogan.

    2. Re:Stands to reason by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Funny

      dell has a 'drug free workplace' policy and insists all employees be piss tested.

      now, FINALLY, I understand why.

      they were looking for materials suppliers, of a sort...

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    3. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude, you're taking a piss.

    4. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What do you think the "u" in 6430u stands for?

    5. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How about "Latitude 6430u: Your Cat Will Do More Than Just Sleep On The Keyboard"?

    6. Re:Stands to reason by denzacar · · Score: 1

      The Dell smell. Not even your cat will know the difference.

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    7. Re:Stands to reason by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      "U won't believe how much it smells like cat pee."

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    8. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Runs like shit, .."

      Mine has a piss-poor performance.

    9. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still tastes like chicken...

    10. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just Michael Dell marking his territory.

    11. Re:Stands to reason by skids · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually meth labs also smell like cat urine. So it might be that all the tiny elves that live inside the device were "overclocked" so to speak.

    12. Re: Stands to reason by lbanting · · Score: 1

      All crazy cat ladies unite!

    13. Re:Stands to reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The FBI are very interested to find out how you know the smell of a meth lab

    14. Re:Stands to reason by hawk · · Score: 1

      Well, Fluffy *had* caught a record-setting number of mice about the plant recently . . .

      hawk

  2. Well by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    Least it was representative of the overall product before the fix

    1. Re:Well by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      Hey, maybe with Dell going private, all the quarterly-earnings-seeking cost-cutting will go away. Maybe they'll not have support that causes tooth pain and manufacture custom computers of some basic quality again.

      Also maybe they'll make that pig-jet I designed.

    2. Re:Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like they're moving away from consumer tech and going towards enterprise services.

    3. Re:Well by scottbomb · · Score: 2

      Sorry to say, but the business model at Dell is changing and they no longer offer much in the way of customization. They are actually moving away from Just In Time.

  3. Dude! You're getting a Smell! by swschrad · · Score: 5, Funny

    obviously this is why they don't ship mice with laptops, they were all eaten.

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  4. OK, Dell by mbone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My basement also smells of cat urine. When are you going to come and fix it?

    1. Re:OK, Dell by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      when I was a kid we had our cat fixed, but the liter box area still smelled like urine

    2. Re:OK, Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      when I was a kid we had our cat fixed, but the liter box area still smelled like urine

      Well, maybe you should have used a pint box instead. ;-)

    3. Re:OK, Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My cat was never broken.

    4. Re:OK, Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My basement also smells of cat urine. When are you going to come and fix it?

      Be honest, I think we all know that it's your Mom's basement.

    5. Re:OK, Dell by sharknado · · Score: 1

      Is it under warranty?

  5. Do not meddle in the affairs of cats... by uncle+slacky · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...for they are subtle and will piss on your computer.

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    1. Re:Do not meddle in the affairs of cats... by jamesh · · Score: 1

      Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.

      So that's the fix... uninstall Windows?

    2. Re:Do not meddle in the affairs of cats... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 3, Funny

      So that's the fix... uninstall Windows?

      Close...the problem was that the machine was running Windows XPee.

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  6. A Feature! by mythosaz · · Score: 2

    Now that Dell is private again, they can continue to provide these innovative features without pressure from their stockholders.

    1. Re:A Feature! by omnichad · · Score: 0, Troll

      Hey, but at least they're not ignoring customers like Apple would have done.

    2. Re:A Feature! by Silvrmane · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dude, really? Show me an issue with Apple products that in the end WASN'T fixed by the company. I'll bet you'll have a hard time finding an example. Sure, in the short term they may deny there is a problem, but they do customer service at an exemplary level, sometimes fixing or replacing products they don't even make to help their customers have the best consumer experience possible.

    3. Re:A Feature! by Tridus · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that with how much Apple cares about branding, "our stuff smells like cat piss" is a problem they would fix pretty quickly.

      Nobody wants to be seen holding a smelly device.

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    4. Re:A Feature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      How about the issue with the BGAs of the NVIDIA (M650?) GPUs in the MacBook Pros of 2008? Even though it was a manufacturing defect (Apple pointed the finger at NVIDIA and NVIDIA pointed the finger at Apple), as the system integrator, Apple should have made things right right from the start. If I remember correctly, it wasn't until a class action lawsuit that Apple finally did something, which was to replace those computers that had actually gone bad. What Apple should have done was issue a recall and replace the boards of every MacBook Pro in that run.

      I had a MacBook Pro from that period and it didn't really exhibit any real problems so I did not qualify for any replacement parts. In December of last year, the computer went kaput -- totally dead. Pressing the power button does nothing: the hard drive doesn't spin up, the CPU fan doesn't spin up, nothing. And of course, the entire thing is out of warranty.

      In all my years of using computers, I have never had a computer totally fail as the MacBook Pro did. Perhaps things will change with Tim Cook at the helm but at the time, Apple was a reflection of Jobs' psychopathic way of dealing with people and money.

    5. Re:A Feature! by narcc · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      sometimes fixing or replacing products they don't even make

      Go home, Silvrmane. You're drunk.

    6. Re:A Feature! by Wookact · · Score: 1

      You're holding it wrong!

    7. Re:A Feature! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Apple's support model is (with the exception of prosaic stuff like 'hard drive is dead, sounds like coffee-grinder', where the ability to get retail support from somebody other than the geek squad is quite a blessing for people without corporate support contracts):

      1. Deny that a problem exists. Reports of the problem will silently disappear from their message boards, CSRs will either emit cluelessness, or (if challeged) suggest that customer misuse was the cause.

      2. Wait. Despite the outward appearance of not giving a fuck, Apple clearly isn't oblivious to the level of buzz, and apparent frequency with which a problem is occuring.

      3. One of two options: if the buzz level of step 2 was low enough, continue to insist that product N is absolutely without fault, until it's time to release revision N+1, where the problem will silently be fixed, with absolutely no acknowledgement that the change was made to address any particular issue. If the buzz level of step 2 is high enough, Apple will then offer repair replacement, sometimes even for otherwise-out-of-warranty hardware.

    8. Re:A Feature! by omnichad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you kidding? They would delete the comments on the community discussion board and tell the users they're smelling it wrong.

    9. Re:A Feature! by afidel · · Score: 1

      WiFi breaking after upgrading to iOS 7 is the latest one, in fact they are actively censoring any discussion of the issue.

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    10. Re:A Feature! by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, my experiences with Apple's (in store, at least) support has been extremely positive.

      #1: yes, this is somewhat true. Though it's more like "deny it's a widespread or manufacturing defect".

      #2: not really relevant to in-person support. If you ware just going to whine anonymously on a forum good luck anyway.

      #3: My girlfriend is on her 4th iPhone 4S now. First she dropped (finally overpriced AppleCare comes in handy), second the mic went bad, 3rd wouldn't charge. Clearly some manufacturing issues on the last two but at least they replaced them with new phones (not refurbs... I guess another advantage of AppleCare) with no questions asked. Further, she brought in a 5+ year old Macbook (one of those white plastic ones) that had a (literal) battery meltdown. They replaced the whole case, battery, and even the keyboard (damaged by our cat ripping off a key). Again, no questions asked, no charge. Finally, they actually replaced the glass on my iPad a while back after my cat knocked it off a table (yeah, what's with my cats and Apple products... though it is ironic the original article is about Dell and cat piss...) at no charge. Guess my sob story was good, because I was expecting they'd charge ~$200 (in which case I would probably have done it myself).

      Moral of the story is, yes, Apple will NEVER admit they do anything (in design or manufacturing) wrong, but they DO tend to stand behind their products...

    11. Re:A Feature! by sootman · · Score: 1

      > if the buzz level of step 2 was low enough, continue to insist that
      > product N is absolutely without fault, until it's time to release
      > revision N+1, where the problem will silently be fixed, with
      > absolutely no acknowledgement that the change was made to
      > address any particular issue. If the buzz level of step 2 is high
      > enough, Apple will then offer repair replacement, sometimes
      > even for otherwise-out-of-warranty hardware.

      "A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

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    12. Re:A Feature! by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      Or admit no fault but offer a free cover lined with Febreeze...

    13. Re:A Feature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We will ensure that these adapters are disposed of in an environmentally friendly way... [Y]ou can purchase one Apple USB power adapter at a special price — $11 CAD.

      Translation: "You buy a cheaper cable from someone else, even if it is better than ours, we'll throw it away for you and then you can buy our cord for the low low price of $11 CAD"

      Here's a better idea: Use traditional standard cables and connectors when designing your products that are way less expensive then $11 CAD.

    14. Re:A Feature! by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Annoyed that this is getting modded "troll" when that's exactly what Apple would do and always seems to do.. And I'm an Apple customer.

    15. Re:A Feature! by narcc · · Score: 1

      Wow! Apple will throw away my old third-party cable and allow me to buy a new one from them!? Why, that's just like repairing or replacing hardware not made by them!

      Let me call you a cab. You're too far gone to even stumble home safely.

    16. Re:A Feature! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Which company did you say you work for?

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    17. Re:A Feature! by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Thanks man, you almost made me choke on an apple, which is ironically what I'm eating as a snack right now.

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    18. Re:A Feature! by DJRumpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This hasn't been my experience with Apple either. I had a Macbook Pro (17" 2008) that was affected by an issue with a bad nVidia card causing a black screen on boot up. nVidia claimed the issue did not affect my Macbook. Apple investigated and found a significant number of those Macbook owners who were affected, and warrantied the repair anyway. My Macbook Pro was 3 years out of warranty in late 2012 when I had this happen to my Macbook (it was 4 years old at the time), and Apple replace the motherboard free of charge, no questions asked. I made an appointment, brought it in, and they offered the repair to me after troubleshooting it on the counter.

      I have also gone in with a missing key on a keyboard, and they replace it free of charge. I also had an iPhone fresh from the factory with markings on the case when I took it out of the box. I found this when it was shipped to my home. They replaced it with a new one, again no questions asked.

      I do know that Apple always tops the satisfaction survey and has for the last decade. There's a reason for that, and it's certainly not due to poor service.

    19. Re:A Feature! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      ... pressure from their stockholders.

      Methinks, it's more like the pressure was in the cat's bladder...

    20. Re:A Feature! by div_2n · · Score: 1

      Easy.

      http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10343601-263.html

      Sure, if you were willing to fork out some money they'd fix a problem caused by faulty design, but not otherwise.

    21. Re:A Feature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are quite a number of G5 tower owners whose mainboards failed not so long after their warranties expired, rendering systems with significant usable life basically worthless. Repeated thermal cycles caused them to de-laminate, pulling circuit traces apart. IIRC, the product line was also cursed with microscopic zinc crystals growing out of solder joints, shorting out random circuits and causing all sorts of nightmare problems.

      Apple's message to these owners was basically "Deal with it!", shouted from the top of massive piles of jew gold. Discussion of these problems was widely censored from their own forums.

    22. Re:A Feature! by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      "You're holding it wrong."

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    23. Re:A Feature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not the cable, the power supply. You bought a shit $5 USB charger from your drugstore, took it to an Apple store, and for an extra $11 they knocked $24 off the price of their top quality state of the art USB charger. They didn't have to do that.

      Re cables: every cell phone I've ever owned, used a completely different cable. It was madness. The last phone I owned - some piece of shit made by Motorolla - had a micro usb cable. Wiggled around in the socket like a loose tooth, super hard to plug in in the dark. If I had owned the phone for more than a few months I know I would have busted the USB charging socket eventually.

      The new Apple cable is awesome - you can plug it in either way, and it is a solid connect - you can't wiggle it, and therefore eventually break the soldered contacts inside the phone. Better than micro USB in every possible way. The business end of the cable is a USB 2 connector, so you can plug it into just about anything really to charge your phone. Seems pretty standard to me.

      Finally, Apple is NOT the only outfit selling these cables. I got a pretty good third party charging cable from Thinkgeek. Yes, the phone complains that it's not a certified cable every time I plug it in. Yes, the phone still gets charged. What was your point again?

    24. Re:A Feature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woosh. That was the sound of that Fight Club reference flying over your head.

    25. Re:A Feature! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Who's the more wooshed? In Fight Club, that's the question that the guy in the airline seat asks after the recall decision algorithm is described. The answer is "A major one."

  7. Re:Dude! You're getting a Smell! by DougOtto · · Score: 1

    Winner!

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  8. Pissed off customers by SpaceManFlip · · Score: 1
    Man if I bought a new laptop and it smelled like cat piss, I would definitely be pissed off. Piss.

    What a piss-poor excuse for a product launch. Don't these piss-ant Dell people have noses in their quality control department.

    ETC

    1. Re:Pissed off customers by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Funny

      and I thought only IBM sold a Pee-series

    2. Re:Pissed off customers by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was disappointed to not find any Frosty Cat Piss posts down at -1.

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    3. Re:Pissed off customers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're just taking the piss out of their customers.

  9. Where can I get one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great feature for people living in rodent-infested city apartments.

  10. I'll level with you by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seeing this on the front page is not exactly my proudest submission.

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    1. Re:I'll level with you by Joining+Yet+Again · · Score: 1

      In the long run, we're all dead.

      We can pretend we're something special, or we can just enjoy the ride. Here's to the ride!

    2. Re:I'll level with you by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Actually, this sounds like a pretty good breakthrough... I thought someone had intentionally made a keyboard with bobcat pheromones or something in order to scare away cats and eliminate cat-like typing from keyboards everywhere.

      http://cheezburger.com/4046581760

      Patent this.

    3. Re:I'll level with you by c · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's still better than a SlashBI or Slashdot TV submission.

      Granted, it's a low bar.

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    4. Re:I'll level with you by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      I don't know you have made the phrase "It stinks" work on even more levels when referring to Dell

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    5. Re:I'll level with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the amount of utter garbage you submit....

    6. Re:I'll level with you by Wookact · · Score: 1

      I actually figured that the guys from Anchorman were messing with the cologne collection again.

    7. Re:I'll level with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cheers yourself, I'm getting frozen!

    8. Re:I'll level with you by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

      It's still better than a SlashBI or Slashdot TV submission.

      Or he could have become Bennett...

      But to comfort the OP, don't worry. It'll be duped within a day, and then your misery will be spread around and thus lessened.

  11. oh, how catty... by swschrad · · Score: 1

    the obvious product upgrade at this point is to rename the line the Dell Attitude, and piss on ya if you don't buy the extended warranty. so you have done the cyberworld a favor in pointing this out.

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  12. Macs had a similar issue not long ago by RiscIt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's ironic that the story would say you won't find this issue with a Mac Book air.

    It wasn't too many years ago that iBooks had an issue where they would smell like body odor after the case had begun to oxidize.

    We still have one. It still stinks.

    I guess they were thinking most nerds wouldn't notice?

    1. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well obviously Apple patented human BO and Dell had to look elsewhere.

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    2. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by oji-sama · · Score: 2

      It's ironic that the story would say you won't find this issue with a Mac Book air.

      Not really, that seems to be a non-article related Macbook Air promotion. "The BBC is reporting that Dell's Latitude 6430u Ultrabooks have an interesting characteristic you won't find in any Macbook Air". Surprisingly the words Macbook and Apple seem to be missing from the article.

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    3. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by Silvrmane · · Score: 1

      We had one of those. It was nick-named "Stinky" and we tried like hell to get rid of the smell, even sending it out for a thorough detailing inside and out. To no avail - stinky stank anyway. We blamed it on the fact that the boss had taken it on a trip and left the macbook locked in the trunk of his car with some used hockey equipment and it got left in the equipment bag for a couple of weeks while he was away. Never thought it was the computer itself that was the source of the problem.

    4. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fairness, the BBC's main tech correspondent Rory "seriously dude how many Apple shares do you own" Cellan-Jones usually finds a way to incorporate pro-Apple references into every one of their stories, so maybe the submitter felt uneasy that it was missing in this case.

    5. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      It was a joke. The original title for the article posited that the urine smell was a thrilling new feature.

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    6. Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago by oji-sama · · Score: 1

      Alright, point taken. However you were misattributing the joke. When stating that "The BBC is reporting[...]" it would be nice for the sentence to describe things that the BBC is reporting. Consider the beginning of the comment I was replying to: "It's ironic that the story would say[...]"

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  13. Surprise! by Pagey123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Urine" for a surprise!

  14. Re:Dude! You're getting a Smell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Naw, you have to feed a cat, that gets expensive. Much cheaper to just spray the laptops with cat urine to keep the mice out.

  15. I have two helpers to do that for me, thanks by swschrad · · Score: 1

    they purr when they're doing it, too.

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    1. Re:I have two helpers to do that for me, thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to party with you.

  16. Hating cats... by Skiron · · Score: 1

    ... and not been near one in years, how would you know it smells of cat's piss if you don't know what cat's piss smells of?

    I would have blamed windows 8.1 and all the other crap they pre-install - perhaps it's the smell of crap.

    1. Re:Hating cats... by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but I would like to echo your hatred of cats.

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    2. Re:Hating cats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ceiling cat watches you masturbate.

    3. Re:Hating cats... by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1

      It smells like ammonia. Most people associate the smell of ammonia with cat piss, instead of the other way round..

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    4. Re:Hating cats... by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      He's lucky I can't shoot that high.

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    5. Re:Hating cats... by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Ammonia is just one part of the cat urine smell. If it's just ammonia, this isn't nearly as bad as implied. It's other substances that create the ongoing odor in a house with a problem cat.

    6. Re:Hating cats... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      ... and not been near one in years, how would you know it smells of cat's piss if you don't know what cat's piss smells of?

      You don't need to like cats or have one to know what cat pee smells like, since they seem recognize people like that when looking for a garden to pee in -- and worse.

      But even being lucky enough to have no idea, you'd still have said "My God, this thing smells horrible? What is that awful smell?"

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  17. runs OSX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shh. the secret got out early but the product was late. This thing was intended to run OSX, but apple found out and changed their naming scheme just in the nick of time.

  18. No, you won't find that in any MacBook, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MacBooks are cages for Lions and Leopards, not just puny house cats....

  19. Gender? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it smeel like Male or Female?

  20. Experience cat videos in a whole new way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new feature no doubt

  21. Rest Assured by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why Dell went private.

  22. Kittens don't scale by mbone · · Score: 1

    In clearly related news, "kittens, it was quickly discovered, do not scale" as Kittens-on-demand, $20 for 15 minutes of snuggling, melts down.

  23. This isn't normal? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    I though all Dell's had that smell lately. Honestly their quality has gone way down hill....

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    1. Re:This isn't normal? by Lithdren · · Score: 1

      Well...seeing as liquid runs down hill, it only stands to reason.

  24. Another Dell service by TheloniousToady · · Score: 1

    I wonder how much they'd charge to fix my cat's smell? (She's out of warranty.)

  25. All joking aside... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    Are there any manufacturing/polymer types (or even armchair chemists) around who would want to hazard a guess as to why a PC component would have that smell?

    My understanding is that chassis materials don't differ wildly from laptop to laptop (ABS or ABS+PC seem to the the typical plastics, Aluminum or coated magnesium-alloy the usual metals, with some assorted adhesives and things). Is there some plasticizer, or mould-release agent, or incomplete-polymerization impurity, or particularly malodorous-if-the-proportions-aren't-right two-part adhesive out there?

    1. Re:All joking aside... by Tailhook · · Score: 1

      IANA manufacturing/polymer type....

      About two weeks ago I briefly fired up a carefully stored old Dell PE2650 that hadn't been run in about 8 years. It immediately smelled strongly of ammonia and I shut it down. Googling around indicates that it may be burning insolation. Some component has decayed and is creating too much heat. I'll figure it out at some point when I start caring again.

      WRT these laptops, I suspect there is some bit of insulation or other, possibly excess, material in contact with or too close to some hot component like a VR heatsink or whatever. It's burning the material slightly and would probably cease to emit the smell at some point.

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    2. Re:All joking aside... by Gryle · · Score: 2

      Armchair chemist (but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...) armed with wikipedia. Ammonia has a related smell to cat urine so perhaps they don't entirely dry the components after rinsing them with an amide-based solvent. My other guess would be some kind of thiol-reaction somewhere in the casing triggered by the heat of the circuits. If you're really curious Wikipedia has an entry on the actual chemical responsible for cat-urine-odor here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_pheromone#Cat_urine_odorants. Looks like something that could polymerize or be formed by excess sulfur or alcohol in the plastics mix.

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    3. Re:All joking aside... by skeffstone · · Score: 1

      Ditto IANA manufacturer type, but I do have first hand experience with a plastic thing starting to smell like cat pee.
      It was in the year 2012, my red nylon spatula, having a red scraper part and a black handle part, which I'd owned for a few years, suddely turned my kitchen drawer into a stinky mess. Of course I thought it was food residue, but it quickly turned out to be eminating from specifically the red "active" bit of the spatula. I tried dishwashing it away, to no avail. I sent an email to the seller, but unfortunately my interest died out when the seller pointed out I should talk to the producer. Now I've forwarded the mail to the correct people, let's see if they have an explanation.

      This article was my only clue at the time http://sandwalk.blogspot.no/2007/01/smell-of-cat-pee.html
      Although (bio)chemical pathways are interesting, without a trained eye for structures and experience with plastics, I'm lost.

  26. how is Dell going with its privates??? by swschrad · · Score: 1

    we're starting to find out ;)

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
    1. Re:how is Dell going with its privates??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ohohohoho! You added a letter and changed the meaning!! So Clever!!

      Even more so, that meaning now has a sexual connotation! That's super duper more funny because everyone says sex shouldn't be talked about! XD XD XD XD

      Please make more jokes! You're very good at them.

      (I'm being sarcastic by the way. I doubted you'd pick up on it, so I just want to make that clear.)

  27. Obligatory Big Lebowski quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So every time--I just want to understand this, sir-- every time a laptop is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

  28. the malodorous is usually sulfur compounds by swschrad · · Score: 1

    from perfume to... not... our friend sulfur is usually there.

    which could lead to a side discussion, instead of snide discussions, about how well the electrothingies inside the case will fare being cooped up with the palm rest in a laptop carrier after a few years.

    I'd look up sulfoxones, as an example, if my lunch break wasn't over.

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    if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
  29. Love the obvious bias in TFA. by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

    The BBC is reporting that Dell's Latitude 6430u Ultrabooks have an interesting characteristic you won't find in any Macbook Air

    You won't find it in a Macbook! You also won't find it in a Toshiba, Acer or an HP. But that's not the cock we are trying to suck.

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    But... the future refused to change.
  30. cat urine & meth by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Meth tends to have the cat urine smell as well, from what I heard. Maybe there were some such banned substances in those laptops?

  31. Dell littertude 6430urine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    next time, just look before you press the order now button.

  32. No more Chinese plastic for this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've bought products made in China that contained evil-smelling plastics.

  33. A slashdot post relevant to my life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I own said ultrabook. It is fantastic aside from the video resolution.
    Now I'm sniffing the touchpad, and it has no such odor.

  34. I remember the yellowing iBooks/MacBooks by droptop · · Score: 1

    Quite a few of our white iBooks and then the white MacBooks would yellow on the palm rest. It seemed to be happening to the same people. I never told them it was "just them" but they were embarrassed anyway... They weren't "dirty" hands or anything like that, it must have been some unique protein or oils or something, it was really strange. Happy when the black MacBooks came out!

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    change it.
  35. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess dell let the cat out of the bag.

  36. Nice "Warranty" by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    Dell staff state that the palm rest will be replaced by Dell at no cost, but only if the unit is still under warranty.

    And what if the warranty expired before Dell decided to acknowledge that this defect was, in fact, a defect?

    And if it's something in the manufacturing process, then the ultrabook was defective since day one, the entire time that Dell warrants it was "free of defects." So how is refusing to fix it if the clock has run out not breaching Dell's obligations under the warranty?

    This is not exactly instilling confidence in Dell's products and their warranties. Sounds more like something HP would do...

    1. Re:Nice "Warranty" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As long as it was reported to Dell while the system was under warranty, you should still be able to get it replaced.

  37. um..ewwee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the new dell Scratch and sniff mouse pad designed by R Kelly..
    You can also use it to mark your territory to keep the dogs away. Only 39.99. With 2 year subscription.

  38. This one smells of wee! by turgid · · Score: 1

    From the greatest sitcom ever, Father Ted.

  39. Dude!... by unitron · · Score: 1

    ...You're getting a smell!

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    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  40. Re:Yea... by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    It's just increasingly hard to point fingers to "made in China" when there is a quality problem, because almost all electronics are made there these days. From cheap junk to very high-quality equipment. They are just a big factory and make anything that the customer orders. I bet there's a factory in China that could have made the laptop case from a sleek, low-odor plastic type if Dell had ordered from them. Instead they went with Cat Pee Plastics.

  41. Read some of the reviews by Khyber · · Score: 1

    People are claiming they had to put their cats down, thinking this was due to the smell.

    I smell some masterful trolling about to happen.

    Oh, wait, that's this Dell in my lap.

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    Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  42. The Cat is Still Not Trustworthy by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

    Dell's taking the blame, but the cat still isn't trustworthy. First the mouse is gone, then the track pad smells like wee.

  43. Simple fix by mynameiskhan · · Score: 1

    The fix was simple for Dell, horrendous for PETA. Dell called in feline exterminators to their factory.

  44. Smell & Taste by mynameiskhan · · Score: 1

    I can understand the need to olfactory satisfaction by the computer owners, but gustatory pleasure of owning a laptop? Interesting!

  45. Dinner for one .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "..Gawwwwd I'll kill that cat!"

  46. Dude, you've been Delled! by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    Fact is, though I love the slogan of "Dude, you've been Delled!", for the most part, Dell has handled its rise from small to large quite well.

    They've really -- for the most part -- avoided becoming the characteristic fortune-500 company, that decides to profiteer on their customers and supliers, and sees quality fall through the floor [followed by stock price], and ends up in the compost heap of an infinite loop of mergers with other fortune 500 companies, losing money [but never vanishing] the whole way.

    Hopefully, that won't change.

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  47. This is gonna be fun... by icemanwol · · Score: 1

    So as a dell tech i can't wait to deal with this issue and all the smart-ass comments people are gonna give me....

  48. Under warranty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never have never will buy a dell.

  49. Sauvignon lovers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new flavor of hardware can be especially suitable for wine experts.
    As you all know Sauvignon wine has the same smell of cat's pee.