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You're Only As Hirable As Your Google+ Circles

theodp writes "A pending Google patent for Identifying Prospective Employee Candidates via Employee Connections lays out plans for data mining employees' social graphs to find top job candidates. According to the patent application, the system would consider factors including the performance of the employees at the company whose circles you are in — under the assumption that the friends of top performers are more likely to be top performers themselves. It's the invention of three Googlers, including an HR VP who was quoted recently in an article that questioned the wisdom of certain Google hiring practices said to encourage 'echo chamber' hiring."

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  1. The IT IN Crowd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ah, so you won't get a job unless you're in the IT IN crowd.

    All of my friends outside of work are mostly non-IT people. Then again, I don't consider myself a top performer - I've known some incredibly talented people and I am definitely NOT one of them. Some of THEIR friends, on the other hand, were strippers, drug users and drunks.

    So guys, there's a good chance that Google+ will get that hot chick in your department - she won't code worth a damn, though.

  2. Remind me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's Google+?

    1. Re:Remind me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must be unemployed.

    2. Re:Remind me by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can just call for Fly N. Eye, male prostitute, consultant of everything, brewer, luthier, archaeologist, physicist and holy man.

      Can you set me up with a shrubbery? Maybe something with a two level effect and a little path running down the middle.

  3. Management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Give them a yardstick and they think they can measure anything. Lines of code, number of published papers, gene sequence. The clearest result of risk management is that you stop taking risks: You're getting old, Google.

    1. Re:Management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The clearest result of risk management is that you stop taking risks knowingly

      Here fixed that for you.
      You still take insane amounts of risks, just the ones you didn't identify,which is the worst of course.

  4. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds like technological quasi-nepotism to me.

    1. Re:WTF? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sounds like technological quasi-nepotism to me.

      You have to go to the right schools, work for the right company and know the right people. Otherwise GoogleJudge will condemn you as raw material for soylent green tacos. Google: making a dystopian future reality today.

  5. But I'm awesome at what I do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...and I don't have connections with top performers, because I've never had a chance to work with them!

    All this overhyping and overvaluing is an important stage in the development of any technology, but I can't wait for social media to be just another thing that we do, and not something that has to be commoditised at every opportunity. I hope that in 10 years, data-mining social media is going to be looked down on the way spam and chain-emails are now. I'm not so unrealistic to imagine it will go away, but I hope it will become socially unacceptable behaviour.

    1. Re:But I'm awesome at what I do... by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't really use social networks at all and I definitely don't have my family or any (current or former) colleagues in my circles or "friends" lists. I don't understand people who do that. I don't need or want to know every second of every day of their entire lives, whether they're the guy I used to work with at the office or my own mom (I don't even know who in my family has social network accounts and I don't care). They don't want or need to know any of that about me, either.

      The only place this would be remotely relevant would be at LinkedIN . . . where all of this pretty much already occurs, anyway.

    2. Re:But I'm awesome at what I do... by PRMan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      All the best programmers I know AREN'T ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT ALL. So I don't see this working very well, unless it's for sales droids.

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      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
  6. Nepotism by Stickerboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Infinite computing power to apply analytics to hiring practices, and they end up with nepotism. Truly garbage in, garbage out. I bet the friends of the HR VP are all top candidates...

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    Light a fire for a man and he'll be warm for a day. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
  7. Color me unemployed then. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Informative

    I deleted my Google+ profile a couple months ago when I posted (what I thought was) a private video to YouTube. It was a demonstration of a new feature I created in a website for a side-job of mine. Suddenly all my Google+ knucklehead friends started posting, "I don't get it - why is this funny?" and other stupid things.

    I don't want one company getting all of my data sharing it in ways they want to.

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    I'm a big tall mofo.
  8. Re:So it's not what you know... by Seumas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not really. Google Plus isn't like Facebook. Anyone can put you in your circle, even if you don't have a clue who they are and don't have them in one of your circles. Also, just because I have someone in a circle or I'm in theirs doesn't mean I am an associate or that I know them or have worked with them or in any way identify with them whatsoever.

    Anyway, this only seems relevant to web designers, photographers, and "internet personalities" which is already a pretty incestuous mutual-masturbation club as it is. Everyone else seems to approach G+ with a strong "eh... I don't get it" attitude.

  9. Google Mindset by Goody · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google considers Google Apps a viable replacement for Microsoft Office, so I can see where they would think Googe+ circles are a replacement for real interviewing and hiring skills.

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  10. is Google turning evil? by bzipitidoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A week ago, I was logged into Gmail and looking at Youtube when this window popped up asking which name I wanted to use. I didn't look that closely at it, as I was busy. Just quickly clicked on what I thought would maintain the status quo. Now my Youtube handle has replaced my name in Gmail. I didn't want my Youtube and Gmail accounts linked. It seems the actions that one time popup started can't be undone. Attempting to delete the Google+ profile that was automatically created somehow isn't working.

    How did you delete Google+ without losing Gmail? Or did you delete everything?

    Google made a mess, and I'm not happy about it. Keep hearing all these stories about Google doing questionable things, even slightly evil things, but until this happened to me, I didn't pay much attention. And now they're rolling out this tool that could unfairly affect employment prospects. What are they thinking these days?

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    Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
  11. Re:Oh good by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It just wants a piece of linkedin's pie.

  12. How Google finds people by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google has other approaches to hiring. At one time, if you searched for topics associated with mathematical proof of correctness, you got a Google employment ad. I've been contacted by Google recruiting because of things I posted on Usenet comp.lang.c++ about how to improve the language. They do pay attention to who's doing what in computer science.

    The striking thing about Google is that they've never developed a second profitable product. Revenue is still over 95% from ads, with 2/3 coming from search ads, and 1/3 from DoubleClick ("AdSense") ads. Google+, Android and Google Docs don't generate significant revenue. They're defensive measures against Facebook, Apple and Microsoft, respectively. All that brainpower, and no new profitable products in a decade.

    "The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. That sucks." - Jeff Hammerbacher, Facebook research scientist