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How Elon Musk Approaches IT At Tesla

onehitwonder writes "In short, they build it themselves. When Tesla Motors needed to improve the back-end software that runs its business, CEO Elon Musk decided not to upgrade the company's SAP system. Instead, he told his CIO, Jay Vijayan, to have the IT organization build a new back-end system, according to The Wall Street Journal. The company's team of 25 software engineers developed the new system in about four months, and it provided the company with speed and agility at a time when it was experiencing costly delivery delays on its all-electric Model S."

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  1. SAP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    S - end
    A - nother
    P - ayment

    1. Re:SAP by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 4, Funny

      We always called it Sorry Ass Program.

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    2. Re:SAP by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The issues that a lot of people really don't get.
      Products like SAP are great if you do your business the same way as everyone else.
      That said. Businesses all tend to run differently thus SAP becomes more of a problem then it helps.
      However Suits like the Term Enterprise software and signing big checks, it makes them feel like they are running a big company, and it feels good to know they are running an Enterprise standard software, they probably have been burned by the single developer tool that becomes unmaintainable after he leaves so they jump to a full commercial system.

      However for the most part if you have a good development team on staff, you usually can make something better, faster and cheaper than SAP. Because you can focus on what is important and leave out the extra stuff. But as I stated your company will need a development team, not a single guy who is the lone coder.

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  2. No article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't bother clicking through - nothing but the same summary.

  3. Re:A risky gamble by gaudior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many SAP installs come in at or below budget? How many are actually completed at all, let alone on-time?

  4. article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    By Rachael King

    Reporter

    Half Moon Bay, Calif. — Leave it to Elon Musk to buck conventional wisdom. When Tesla Motors Inc.TSLA +7.29%, the Silicon Valley-based automaker he founded, needed to improve the backend software that runs its business, he decided not to upgrade the company’s software from SAP AGSAP.XE 0.00%. Instead, he told CIO Jay Vijayan to build it himself.

    “Initially, I was very skeptical,” said Mr. Vijayan, Thursday, at Constellation Research Inc.’s Connected Enterprise Conference in Half Moon Bay, Calif. But, in the end, “Elon was right,” he said, adding that the new system gives his company the speed and agility it needs. His team built it in just four months.

    Guus Schoonewille/AFP/Getty Images
    A view of a Tesla car on an assembly line
    Last year, Tesla was facing delivery delays of the all-electric Model S which it introduced on June 22, 2012. At the same time, Mr. Vijayan’s team of about 25 software engineers was working hard to build a system that could support ramped up production. The improved information technology systems are important for managing high volume production of the Model S, according to company filings. The system went live in July 2012.

    Backend software, known as enterprise resource planning software, can make or break a company. SAP has become the world’s largest business software company by building incredibly complex software that can manage customers, suppliers, and the entire lifecycle of a product. SAP says that it is a leading provider of technology for the automobile industry, with nine out of the top 10 companies running SAP applications.

    The software is widely used by other large companies as well. Hewlett-Packard Co., for example, uses SAP software to manage the operations needed to sell its printers, servers and PCs. H-P CIO Ramon Baez, also attending the conference, told CIO Journal that it operates at too large a scale to build its own custom enterprise resource planning software.

    “You can shoot yourself in the foot if you don’t know what you’re doing,” said Mr. Vijayan. “You need the right team,” he said.

    Yet, Mr. Vijayan was in a tough spot. It can take more than a year and millions of dollars to roll out SAP software because of all the integration required. For example, NTT Data is currently undergoing a two-year, $20 million enterprise resource planning consolidation. Tesla didn’t have the time needed to undertake such a project. By creating a custom software project, he was able to get it up and running quickly, partially because it didn’t need integration of disparate applications. Because Mr. Musk made a clear decision, it also helped Mr. Vijayan get immediate cooperation from business leaders.

    Yet, there will likely be challenges ahead as Tesla grows. Building and running a lightweight enterprise resource planning system can be done when a company is relatively small but the problem is making it scale, Ben Haines, CIO at Box Inc. told CIO Journal.

    “I’m super confident that it’s going to be able to scale very well,” said Mr. Vijayan. “It’s now one of the best systems we have.”

    1. Re:article by spasm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I like how they describe SAPs customers as an industry (automobiles) which struggles, and a specifc company (HP) which outright sucks. If correlation was causation I'd say buying SAP is how you destroy a company.

  5. Building it is one thing by nightsweat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maintaining it another. One of the hardest things to do is keep up with tax and regulatory changes in your software. You have to be aware of a change before you can implement it.

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  6. Re:A risky gamble by nbvb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I disagree.

    Some of the most successful IT shops I've ever worked in have been 'build' vs. 'buy' shops. They get tremendous cost advantage from having internally-developed tools that exactly meet the needs of their business.

    Done right, it works very, very well.

  7. Re:A risky gamble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Crickets*

  8. Re:Now Open It by tgd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did you see where it only took 4 months? I haven't seen an SAP **upgrade** that went that fast, much less a deployment.

    Of course, the reason for that isn't the (complete) ineptitude of people at SAP, or the superstar statusing of the engineers at Tesla.

    Its easy to build a one-off solution that works for what a company needs on day one, do it quickly and be successful. Its vastly harder to build a one-off solution that still works for what the company needs done ten years down the line. And damn near impossible to build a one-off solution that just magically has equivalent success and value to other companies just by open sourcing it.

    SAP upgrades can easily take that long, but SAP can easily run organizations an order of magnitude bigger, and two orders of magnitude more complicated than Tesla.

    IMO, the key thing people should get from this is the importance of making sure you buy what you actually need. If Tesla could replace their SAP system in four months with 25 engineers, odds are pretty high they had overpurchased when they went with SAP to begin with.

  9. Re:Now Open It by dysmal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone knows of a company that is implementing SAP. Can anyone name a company that has completed their implementation of SAP?

  10. Re:Now Open It by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe they exist, but have you ever seen a company that actually could deploy or upgrade SAP faster than building something in house?

  11. Re:A risky gamble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yep a guy who built his first tech company at 24 got lucky
    what does a founder of paypal know about large scale software projects compared to arm chair CIO on slashdot

  12. Re:Now Open It by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The question is, does the company even know what it's going to be doing 10 years down the line? Does SAP make it any easier to change as you company evolves over the next 10 years? SAP isn't something you can just install and forget about it. It's just a set of tools. It's like a database server, web server, development environment, or operating system. Similar to SharePoint, except bigger. It doesn't do anything on it's own. You have to do a lot of work to make it work for you.

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  13. Re:Now Open It by Pope · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is easy! The users and their business models are simply all wrong LOL

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  14. Re:Nor for Tesla next year. Build, Buy, FOSS by blackraven14250 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, Tesla's core competency is definitely cars, but it's not like they're unfamiliar with software development. It's quite different rolling your own when you're just an auto maker with no history in software. Not only do Tesla's cars require more software and firmware than the traditional "competition", but they also have leadership which is absolutely competent in software development.

  15. Re:Now Open It by fatphil · · Score: 5, Funny

    >> SAP can easily run organizations an order of magnitude bigger

    > I lost it at easily.

    I misread it as "SAP can easily ruin ..."

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  16. Oversell? by recharged95 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure they built it in 4 months...
    But likely spent the last 9 years figuring out why SAP was bad. Hence they knew what they wanted (by now)... Hire some good s/w developers and voila... you'll have a better system from the get-go. That's business systems 101: it's all about domain knowledge. Sure they built it in 4 months, but I see it took them 8.6 years to create it... by understanding why the SAP solution sucked and the experience on what worked and what didn't.

    If they started from scratch with no SAP experience.... well I'm sure we'd see a different story. The same story as Oracle, MS, HP, IBM, and SAP (i.e. their in-house systems suck big time).

    Now some new MBA graduate will disagree: now new systems can be built in 4 months, muck did it... then again...

  17. Re:Nor for Tesla next year. Build, Buy, FOSS by turbidostato · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Tesla should design their own cars, especially electrical subsystems of the cars, but buy trashcans, spreadsheets, and SAP."

    Correct.

    MBA-grade correct.

    And that pesky Bezos should focus on his company's core competencies, selling books, and let the generic part, like IT, to the good known providers on the field, as all other e-companies in these dot-com boom days are doing.

    After all, even if he ends up with a excellent IT group, what would he do with the spare capacity? Losing tons of money, I say.