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Protect Your Android Phone By Killing All Its Crapware

jfruh writes "Like Windows, Android has built a dominant market share because any hardware manufacturer can license it — and as they did with Windows, those manufacturers are loading up Android devices with their own proprietary crapware. Although the process is a bit convoluted, you can get this crapware off your phone — and in doing so you'll actually make the device more secure."

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  1. Hooray by egr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some guy found new button in application management settings... good for him! However the summary is misleading, it does not get the crapware off, it just disables the applications.

  2. Re:O'rly? No wai! by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Title should have read: "Disabled apps are disabled."

    Android vs IOS debate in 3.....2.......

  3. Re:O'rly? No wai! by ciderbrew · · Score: 2

    It's the link bait update report. V important if you want to stay up-to-date with the latest link bait.

  4. Disable is disabled by Russ1642 · · Score: 5, Informative

    On my Galaxy S3, which is loaded only with genuine Samsung crapware, disable is disabled on those apps.

    1. Re:Disable is disabled by Vaakku · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uninstall updates on those apps first. Then it will let you disable them.

    2. Re:Disable is disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just like the article says, which supposedly nobody on slashdot needs to read.

    3. Re:Disable is disabled by Russ1642 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Correction. A few will let you disable them. Many will not, whether you uninstall updates or not.

    4. Re:Disable is disabled by martinmarv · · Score: 2

      Uninstalling updates enables "Disable" on some apps, but not others, unfortunately (on non-rooted devices). I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, and can't disable the Samsung Music app

    5. Re:Disable is disabled by tbuddy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Root it and put CyanogenMod on it.
      That was the first thing I did with my phone. Also, the Verizon S3 is fully loaded with Verizon Crapware, not just the Samsung crapware.

    6. Re:Disable is disabled by Greyfox · · Score: 2
      You don't even have to root it. Just put the cyanogenmod image on your flash disk, use Odin to install the appropriate recovery image, boot to that recovery image and install the CM image.

      Buy a copy of mybackup pro or something and you can back up all your apps and data to your flash drive in advance. It doesn't seem to need root to do this.

      It's a bit of a convoluted process if you allow the original image to boot before you boot to the recovery -- it'll reinstall the stock recovery without so much as asking. But if you just follow the steps I outlined, you'll end up with CM on your phone, the CM recovery and never having to root the thing.

      I lost the T-Mobile wifi calling by doing this, but the only place it ever worked for me was at home anyway. My signal is pretty good at the house anyway. Everything else works as well as or better than the stock S3 image, and you can delete all that crap the carrier installs on your phone by default. The visual voice mail still even works.

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    7. Re:Disable is disabled by Monsuco · · Score: 2

      Doesn't it comes with serious caveats, like losing some of the phone's functionality? I remember last time I researched it, you'd lose camera completely or camera quality would degrade massively and some other functionality of the phone got lost upon installing cyanogenmod.

      Sometimes nightly builds have this issue. Usually by the time you get to release candidates this issue is solved. My Droid 4 has been happily running Cyanogenmod for several months.

  5. Overprivilaged Apps Security Risk... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But root your phone to remove them. Yeah, because rooting doesn't make the phone inherently more vulnerable.

    Oh and it's nice that he's recommending basic Android 101 stuff (i.e. disable the app) which is presumably meant for a novice. He then recommends rooting to this same group knowing full well that these people shouldn't ever root their phone because it will cause more harm than good. Nice.

    1. Re:Overprivilaged Apps Security Risk... by egr · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is possible to root the phone, remove the crapware and then remove the root. No need to keep it.

  6. Or buy an iPhone by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As reviled as Apple might be by gearheads about issues like flexibility and not letting samsung et all reap all the rewards for taking none of the risks, Apple stands up to telcos and don't let them put crapware on the phone, and the stuff Apple themselves makes and puts on the phone they actually attempt to make decently. The walled garden keeps the bad people out as much as it keeps the good people in. Stuff like this generates loyalty, folks. It's not just fanboyism.

    1. Re:Or buy an iPhone by Tukz · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I remove the crapware on an Apple iPhone (iOS), it won't work at all.

      Let's see how many Apple fans got a sense of humour.

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    2. Re:Or buy an iPhone by swb · · Score: 2

      And although you can't remove the stock Apple apps, some are optional like Remote (for AppleTV) and they don't do something dumb like locking the apps to a specific screen or location. I have an app folder with a bunch of seldom used Apple apps on the last app screen.

    3. Re:Or buy an iPhone by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      It's not flamebait, but it's quite inaccurate. You can't remove pretty much any of the Apple apps, and you can't automatically have replacement emails apps, browsers, etc work. The only difference is most of the apps you're forced to leave installed are at least decent, although almost never the best of breed.

    4. Re:Or buy an iPhone by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a major difference. Most iPhone users don't give a flying fuck about rooting or modding our damn phones. Many of us have enough in our day to day lives with work computers, personal computers, friends and family's computers that the last thing we want to do is fuck around with the computers in our pockets.

      That is major difference I see between iOS users and Android users around here.

      For better, and probably worse, Android is the new Microsoft Windows. iOS is still pretty much the same old Mac in terms of user base. My prediction is that we'll continue to see most attack vectors go towards Android devices because manufactures have a spotty record when it comes to releasing security patches and updates on their phones and the phones will allow users to side load apps from whatever marketplace they want. People can cry all they want about "Freedom" with android, but if it was really all the free and open, why are there secured boot loaders on most of the handsets. Unless you mean freedom to the handset manufactures and carriers. I mean the carriers are the customers. Not the users. (Except oddly enough with the iPhone where Apple was able to bend the carriers to their will and not the other way around).

      Have to remember the carriers wanted android as much as users because they saw it as a possible way to gain control back from Apple when it comes to Apple devices on their networks. Maybe without Jobs they'll be able to turn the table eventually....

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    5. Re:Or buy an iPhone by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More importantly you can't replace Apple apps. No replacement home screens, keyboards, browser engines (all browsers are just crippled Safari wrappers), SMS messengers, personal assistants (Siri), text to speech voices, one touch dialers, market places or anything else that Apple considers to be duplicating functionality. I want the ability to duplicate functionality with something better or more suited to my needs.

      At least on Android you can always just hide the crapware away, disable it in the app manager and replace it with something from Play.

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  7. The news is that the MSM realizes it by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not every article published with a date has to be news. Sometimes the news is just that the mainstream media have come to realize something that the geeks have known for months or years. In this case, the news is that the mainstream media has realized that 1. Android has preinstalled crapware, 2. this crapware has vulnerabilities, 3. this crapware can be disabled since 4.0 so as not to cause any damage, and 4. it's enough of a problem that the ad impressions are worth writing and editing a story about it.

  8. Re:O'rly? No wai! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

    Title should have read: "Disabled apps are disabled."

    But there's still likely several you can't actually uninstall.

    On my HTC phone, I can't uninstall Facebook, but I can disable it. On my Google Nexus, I've had Google re-enable some apps I've specifically disabled because I don't want them.

    They all try to put their crapware on the devices, and can make it awfully difficult to remove or disable them. Because they like to pretend they still own the devices, and they figure their desire to monetize your device outweighs your desire to lock it down.

    I specifically went with the Google branded Nexus so I wouldn't have to worry about the crap from a 3rd party, but that doesn't mean Google has made it any easier to strip out the shit you don't want -- I disabled the YouTube app altogether when the first time I launched it to look at it Google automatically signed me up for an account without asking.

    Welcome to the exciting future, where you don't own the stuff you buy, and the company who made it has embedded everything possible to give them access to your information.

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  9. It's why I stick with Nexus devices by metrix007 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Stock Android. Nothing disabled, I can tether my phone at no charge, no crapware...

    Other phones may be faster, but not enough to justify the headache of crapware.

    It's the same reason I stick with Asus for laptops. Well built machines with minimal crapwear that are pretty easy to open up if you need to.

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    1. Re:It's why I stick with Nexus devices by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      Personally, I get a sort of satisfaction out of rooting my phone when samsung or whoever clearly doesn't want me to. Same with jailbreaking. After installing cyanogenmod on my samsung, and after jailbreaking, I really didn't do much with either. If I wasn't flipping the bird to someone telling me how to use my stuff, it became a lot more boring.

      It's nerdy and ineffective, I know.

  10. Crapware on the website by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet there isn't as much crapware on the phone as there is on that fucking IT World website.

  11. Re:IT==Moron by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is why anytime someone says IT (as opposed to CS or engineering), I think moron.

    How funny - I get the same impression from people who think IT, CS, and engineering are interchangeable terms.

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  12. Re: O'rly? No wai! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My Android phone is a pay-as-you-go Virgin Mobile phone. No contract and I pick up a $35 card at the drugstore each month for unlimited data and 200 min voice. I had to give google one of my gmail addresses and some payment info to get set up with their app store, but little else. I specifically browse the web only with Firefox and never sign into any google property with it. Google keeps trying to encourage more Google+ connectivity, and lately every time I acquire something at the Play Store a dialogue pops up with them wanting my cell number for some form of SMS password recovery. The popup has my number all entered in it and it's an OK button click away from them having it. So their software already has the number, and I'm presumably just acknowledging that fact if I click OK.

    The privacy issues with Android, since we've all dialed into the googleplex to have a Play Store account, deserve some thought.

  13. Re: O'rly? No wai! by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am so sick of Google being annoying as fuck. NO i dont want to sign new terms of service, i dont give a fuck about having an SMS emergency contact, no i will NOT provide my real name to youtube and SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT GOOGLE+. In the last year google has gotten incredibly annoying with notifications.

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  14. Re: O'rly? No wai! by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree. I've twice deleted the google+ accounts i didn't want,

    getting rid of an adwords account is even harder.

    1. Get a throwaway email address from gmail (or anywhere).
    2. Log into your personal account.
    3. Send invitation to the new email address.
    4. Log out completely from all Google properties.
    5. Click on the link in the email (the new address)
    6. Select "I already have an account" and continue.
    7. This adds the new address to your account.
    8. Log out
    9. Log back in with the old address.
    10. Confirm the addition and promote new user to admin
    11. Log out completely.
    12. Log in with the new address.
    13. Remove your old address from the account
    14. Log out completely
    15. Proceed to accept invitation to the new account. (Select "I already have an account")

    WFT!

  15. A story about rooting a phone? On Sashdot? by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously?????

    What's next? A story about the great wonders of alternate current?

    (including Edison vs Tesla flame wars, to boot)

  16. Re:O'rly? No wai! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This really is one of the better reasons to get an iphone. Apple fought the carriers HARD to get their nickle-and-dime shitware off the iphone, and as a result only ATT was willing to pick up the iphone at first.

    Who do none of you fandroids remember the bad old days of carrier phones where built-in features were turned off, replaced by carrier specific crapware and sold back to you at a subscription-only premium? Want music? Maps? Ringtones? Games? Share photos? That will cost you. Each time. And you have to pay a monthly fee just for the privilege of giving us more money each time.

    I just got the 5c and it was effortless. (Previously had a 4)Turn on phone, choose restore, punch in icloud credentials Done. All apps, music, photos, settings, accounts all migrate back over. Easy. Done. Nothing I didn't want. (The fingerprint unlock isn't a gimmick by the way. Its fucking amazing. It's literally faster to unlock the phone than punching in a code, and you can easily and consitantly unlock the phone without looking at it)

    My co-worker got a galaxy S4 at the same time. Nice looking, huge screen, great display. Loaded to the brim with throw-away features that half work, samsung's really awful attempt at copying icloud, and a full page of ATT shitware that actually makes the phone objectively and subjectively worse. She's still trying to get all of her stuff moved over. - The google services, though, migrated perfectly. Google has their shit down, but they lack the clout to tell carriers to go fuck themselves like apple can.

  17. Re: O'rly? No wai! by TractorBarry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    +10 agree. Google are the NSA in disguise. The internet was built on anonymity and we're going to have to fight to keep it that way.

    Maybe we should all start using "Luther Blisset" as our "Real Name" on anything that ask for one ?

    Hell let's all actually change our names to Luther Blisset :)

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  18. Re:O'rly? No wai! by P-niiice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yeah but its a blackberry

  19. There is no android... by Maltheus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...there is only cyanogenmod. What is this crapware you speak of?

  20. CyanogenMod and Custom Firmware by WoodburyMan · · Score: 2

    For this reason and this reason alone is why I will never use a stock-carrier and manufactorer bloated ROM on a Android phone. My Galaxy S4 from AT&T had SO MUCH junk bundled. Even the default Dialer/Contacts app was replaced with this AT&T junk that forced and bugged you to make a account to backup your contacts to AT&T that would cause a 15-20 second lag whenever I opened the contacts app. Add to it the number of bundled AT&T apps and Google Apps that are bundled that I could not remove (Only Disable, and even then they would magically reenable themselves). Even rooting and removing them in some cases were impossible. So that's when I got into Custom Roms. I absolutely love CyanogenMod. I have had it on my phone since a little over a week after owning it with CyanogenMod 10.1 (Android 4.2) and currently running a custom build of CM10.2 (Android 4.3.1) nightly builds. Phone is SO MUCH faster without bloatware running in the background. And I can pick and choose every app I want. The only downfall is the stock Camera app doesn't work as well as the stock Samsung camera. For which I dual boot my phone with a stock-Samsung based ROM that has all carrier and Samsung crap removed and use it just for taking photos. And I will be running Android 4.4 (CM11) nightly builds as soon as they are released. The current holdup is a updated camera binary blob thats compatible with Android 4.4 as well as 4.4 Compatible releases from Qualcom to make it work. (Which either will will be working fine once the Google Edition Galaxy S4 Android 4.4 firmware image is released, bits can be taken from that to finish it).

  21. Re: O'rly? No wai! by oodaloop · · Score: 2

    WFT!

    WTF is that acronym?

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  22. Re: O'rly? No wai! by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

    Just to be clear, I think that's a function of online services, not google specifically, and not android. Facebook is worse. It keeps asking me where I work, where I went to high school etc. It clearly has enough information to guess, as it makes suggestions which are pretty spot on based on my friends' data.

    My android phone, I never get nuisances like that. My ipad is actually worse. It keeps asking me to sign in with gamecenter.

    Not to say that google is superior, just that online services you use for "free" will always pester you like virtual paparazzi.

  23. Re:O'rly? No wai! by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    Wishful thinking. I had a blackberry and Verizon FORCED an app on it.... BING search of all things. You can't uninstall it. It set the default search engine to BING in the web browser, and plastered the icon everywhere. Sure, you can HIDE the icon, but the program is still installed.

  24. Re:O'rly? No wai! by eudaemon · · Score: 2

    Even my venerable Nexus One had to be rooted to remove the twitter and facebook apks and that was a stock phone straight from google play. No crapware that I noticed on the Nexus 4, so at least that's alright. But it's nearly impossible to exit the Google ecosystem entirely and use an android phone.

  25. Re:O'rly? No wai! by eudaemon · · Score: 2

    What do you mean bad old days? Verizon still does this.

  26. Re:O'rly? No wai! by Karlt1 · · Score: 2

    The fault is not android or HTC, this is exclusively and explicitly the fault of the carriers.

    If Apple was able to say "No" to the carriers when the carriers wanted to put their branding on their phone and install crapware, why can't Android manufacturers?

    That's like blaming the carriers for not updating phones to the latest OS.

  27. Re:O'rly? No wai! by sadboyzz · · Score: 2

    But there's still likely several you can't actually uninstall. On my HTC phone, I can't uninstall Facebook, but I can disable it. On my Google Nexus, I've had Google re-enable some apps I've specifically disabled because I don't want them.

    If you have root access you can just remove any apks you don't like from /system/app and they're gone for good. You can always get root if you buy the Nexus phones or the so-called "developer" phones. If you can't have root access because the your device is locked down from the bootloader (and no one has yet published an expliot to unlock it), then that essentially means you don't "own" the hardware.

    They all try to put their crapware on the devices, and can make it awfully difficult to remove or disable them. Because they like to pretend they still own the devices, and they figure their desire to monetize your device outweighs your desire to lock it down.

    Well, to be fair, they feel that way because they sold you a $600 phone for $200. So it's not really that outrageous they woud try to recoup that difference, by doing their best to force you to use their shitware. The confusion arises from the fact that you expect to fully own a device, while paying subsidized price.

    If you really want to have full control of your device, then you'll need to adjust your expectations, that a high-end phone is $600 and not $200.

    I specifically went with the Google branded Nexus so I wouldn't have to worry about the crap from a 3rd party, but that doesn't mean Google has made it any easier to strip out the shit you don't want

    AFAIK all Nexus devices are bootloader unlocked, which means you can do whatever you want with the device, up to ripping out the whole operating system and installing your own. Does Google make it easy for you to remove their stuff? No. But that's no different from say a laptop. Does Microsoft make it easy for you to remove IE? When I buy a Thinkpad, there's Microsoft shit and Lenovo shit, and they don't make it easy for me remove their shit, but there's nothing stopping me from installing Linux. Same goes for smart phones, which are essentially small computers.

    Welcome to the exciting future, where you don't own the stuff you buy, and the company who made it has embedded everything possible to give them access to your information.

    The fact is, it really isn't that bad, at least not yet. The phone manufacturers are more than happy to sell you "developer" devices at a full price, and if that's too expensive then get a Nexus. The subsidized pricing model seems to flourish especially in the US market, presumably because the carriers make back much more than loss on the initial hardware sale over the long run. But the consumers are not without blame, as they've basically voted with their wallets saying that it's OK to trade their freedom (to tinker) and their privacy for a couple hundred bucks off their new shiny device. Luckily the choice is still there, but just don't expect to pay $200 for a $600 device and still be able to do whatever you want with it.