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Science Museum Declines To Show Climate Change Film
sciencehabit writes "A premier science museum in North Carolina has sparked controversy by refusing to show an hour long film about climate change and rising sea levels. The museum may be in a bit of a delicate position. It is part of a state agency, the North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources. The state government has been perceived as hostile to action on climate change; last year, the legislature passed a bill forbidding the state coastal commission from defining rates of sea-level rise for regulation before 2016."
"A premier science museum in North Carolina has sparked controversy by refusing to show an hour long film about climate change and rising sea levels and 'mocks North Carolina politicians'. The museum may be in a bit of a delicate position because residents of a state don't enjoy having their state made fun of."
Climate change being real or not is completely irrevelant. We're NOT going to do anything about it. No way no how. Until it's a major serious problem that might impact someones cashflow. Until then. And it can be proven that it will cost some rich people some money... Until then. We're not going to do shit except scream 'it's not real i cant hear you'. So just stop with the storys about it. You're causing global warming with the wasted energy it took to type the story in.
Willful ignorance. We haz it. It's standard policy too.
From TFA:
That's not science.
the problem is with the message in the video, not science.
Shored Up is a convincing call for action along our coasts. As the oceans rise and storms flood our towns and cities, we have a choice to make: do we continue to develop as we have in the past, ignoring clear risks and danger?
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
the legislature passed a bill forbidding the state coastal commission from defining rates of sea-level rise for regulation before 2016.
They really ought to keep the sea in check right now. Without regulation, it's free to rise however fast it damn well pleases until 2016.
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How's the beachfront property in Atlanta?
The museum's statement reads, in part:
It would be a disservice to the people of North Carolina who generously funded the construction of the Museum, and who are joined by other visitors from all other US states and numerous other countries, if we were to maintain that showing one organization’s film constituted a comprehensive approach to an issue as significant and complex as sea level science.
Science cafe events are all about providing a quick, accessible, but by no means comprehensive view of an topic. Most of the ones I've been to have involved a single academic pontificating on their area of expertise and their own ideas for an hour. It seems rather odd to me that a Cafe Sci would restrict itself in this way. They can't have a very rich slate.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
About 7000 years ago:
"The Older Peron... throughout the period, global sea levels were 2.5 to 4 meters (8 to 13 feet) higher than the twentieth-century average."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Older_Peron
No, this is the one where the same Director demoted the head of its Natural Research Centre to a figurehead position and reassigned her as "at risk" staff.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
Whether it is corporate shills in climate change denial or religionists diluting science with creationism and imaginary divinity, the inescapable conclusion is that the willful ignorance and in-grained avarice of politicians will surely be the death of us all.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
Poor baby, he didn't get his way.
The musuem director said that the "Science Cafe" was the wrong forum, but that they would consider showing the film as part of a larger project.
This film is an advocacy film for one particular viewpoint, being pushed by one particular organization. The musuem rightly sees that showing this film alone, with no context or alternative viewpoints, may not be the best way to present a balanced viewpoint on a difficult and controversion subject.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
Is this the same science museum that refused to show "The population Bomb: The Movie", "Ice Age: Year 2010" and all the other variations of were all going to be dead 30 years from now unless we are all forced to adopt whatever leftist ideology is popular at the time?
Why are you asking us? Surely if you want to understand the films content, you could look at TFA yourself, and study the history of the museum.
The environmentalists have taken a page from Harold Camping and all other doomsday cults. Make a prediction that mankind will all be dead, or facing an apocalyptic scenario 30 years from now, and when that 30 years have passed and nothing terrible has happened still insist you are still right and make another prediction for the apocalypse 30 years from now, but this time its real!
Your understanding of the predictions made by climate models is completely off the wall insane, and laughably wrong. You need to get a handle on the basic facts before presuming to criticise either the science of the actions of others in response to that science.
In the USA, the climate changes you!
"The state government has been perceived as hostile to action on climate change;"
It's all fun and games until the insurance companies believe that climate change is a threat.
And they do.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/business/insurers-stray-from-the-conservative-line-on-climate-change.html?_r=0
Even if you don't believe the scientists, you'll have to believe your insurance company, especially when you get the bill.
Perhaps the so-called "Fiscal Conservatives" of NC should be, you know, fiscal.
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BMO
"A premier science museum in North Carolina has sparked controversy by refusing to show an hour long film about climate change and rising sea levels and 'mocks North Carolina politicians'. The museum may be in a bit of a delicate position because residents of a state don't enjoy having their state made fun of."
In that case, so much for an academic center's freedom to purport controversy and satire independent of the state's political POVs and the current temperament of the plebe.
You bold that part out as if that was a valid reason for the museum to decline the exhibition of said film. How much more stupid could that statement get? You are equating the state with the residents whereas I can assure you a substantial number of NC's residents would disagree with you.
And if the state, and academia for that matter, were completely subject to whatever the popular mood might be (which in this case, your statement is completely debatable to begin with), then we would still be living with segregation laws.
The whole point of state-sponsored academic institutions in the developed free world is to present information, examine controversy, and why not, satirize and challenge the status quo independently of what state officials, and even residents think.
I could see how the Nazis sponsored Aryan science as opposed to "corrupted Jewish thinking" proposed by the likes of Einstein.
I could understand Soviet academies forced to abandon research deemed counter-revolutionary which brought us stuff like Lynsenkoism... and even then the Soviets were wise enough to give Soviet intelligentsia a great degree of freedom.
But to whiff the smell of such thinking in a developed, free/capitalist country, in America of all places, man, that is a sad day for humanity.
The republicans are more of a driving force behind the climate change denial movement than the Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial#Public_sector
In fact if you type "democrat climate change denial" into google you get articles about Republican climate change denial.
So...hardly "training" or "hatred". Just simple research.
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I;d bet they couldn't dock at the space station without a docking computer (cue Blue Danube)
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Politicians are public servents. "We" pay "them", and I absolutely want some of my money supporting people that are critical of those in power.
Here in Canada we have a long history of publicly funded shows (satire and serious) whose main goal is holding the people in power accountable.
Ultimately, government entities only know how to make one type of decision: political decisions. If you want an organization to make decisions on any basis other than politics, make sure it is not part of the government.