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Ask Slashdot: Recommendations For Beautiful Network Cable Trays?

First time accepted submitter murpht2 writes "My company prides itself on an office environment that follows a modern design aesthetic: open floor plan, bold colors on the walls, cool lamps in the corners. We're now engaged in a significant upgrade to our IT systems and we have a clash: the IT team leader wants to run network cable in trays hanging from the ceiling so all the client computers have high-speed access to the new servers; the guy in charge of the office design wants to keep things looking clean and the cable trays don't fit the bill. We're in a building made entirely of bricks and concrete, so we lack some of the between-the-wall spaces that are used in other settings. Any suggestions for beautiful cable trays or other alternatives?"

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  1. Lucky you by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My company prides itself on an office environment that follows a modern design aesthetic: open floor plan, bold colors on the walls, cool lamps in the corners.

    My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

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    1. Re:Lucky you by Havokmon · · Score: 2

      My company prides itself on an office environment that follows a modern design aesthetic: open floor plan, bold colors on the walls, cool lamps in the corners.

      My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

      Right. What stock should I be selling?

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    2. Re:Lucky you by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

      Submitter never said what his company actually does.

      Perhaps having a "nice office aesthetic" is a requirement in the field they work in - perhaps it's even ... design! Last thing most customers looking for design work want to do is walk into a butt-ugly office that's full of drab (but functional) office furniture.

      And there are many fields where yes, the office aesthetic does matter, especially in creative industries. And customers expect it, nay, demand it - they want to see what sort of creative "product" the company has, and office design is one of them that's visible, beyond existing products on the market.

      Apple has shown that form is important - if not as important, as function. Having function is necessary, but so is form, as function without form is a complex mess no user desires. Though of course, sometimes they lean too far towards the "form" part at times.

      And sometimes, it's actually GOOD to work in an environment that's not just beige cubes in a beige office with beige tables and beige equipment.

    3. Re:Lucky you by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

      Yeah, but these are Hipster Companies, where the design aesthetic of the network trays is far more important.

      I'm betting there's an awful lot of pretentious sense of how awesome they are, equipped with turtle-necks and the ability to win buzzword bingo by 9am every day.

      This makes me think of those Herman Miller chairs, which became the symbol of the .com era -- if your company had them, it was likely going out of business soon. :-P

      Me, I'm looking at a request for beautiful networking trays to be indicative of a company more focused on style than function.

      And, in my experience, most companies are only worried about making a good enough product that meets the deadlines, and only somewhat worried about happy customers as long as it isn't below a certain threshold.

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    4. Re:Lucky you by Shoten · · Score: 2

      My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

      Submitter never said what his company actually does.

      Perhaps having a "nice office aesthetic" is a requirement in the field they work in - perhaps it's even ... design! Last thing most customers looking for design work want to do is walk into a butt-ugly office that's full of drab (but functional) office furniture.

      And there are many fields where yes, the office aesthetic does matter, especially in creative industries. And customers expect it, nay, demand it - they want to see what sort of creative "product" the company has, and office design is one of them that's visible, beyond existing products on the market.

      Apple has shown that form is important - if not as important, as function. Having function is necessary, but so is form, as function without form is a complex mess no user desires. Though of course, sometimes they lean too far towards the "form" part at times.

      And sometimes, it's actually GOOD to work in an environment that's not just beige cubes in a beige office with beige tables and beige equipment.

      Okay...but then, if something like a "nice office aesthetic" is core to their business, why are they asking for design advice on Slashdot? Either way, something is amiss here.

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    5. Re:Lucky you by mythosaz · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I spent the last decade in a job with a nice Herman Miller Aeron chair.

      I now work a job with your run of the mill crappy cubicle chair.

      While I make the same amount of money in the new job, it's considerably less satisfying spending my 8+ hours a day in this back-breaker.\

      Happy employees stay longer, work longer, and refer other good potential employees.

      Unhappy employees leave and work where it's nice.

    6. Re:Lucky you by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My company prides itself on an office environment that follows a modern design aesthetic: open floor plan, bold colors on the walls, cool lamps in the corners.

      My lame company only prides itself on stupid shit like making good products and pleasing its customers.

      The two aren't in opposition to one another.

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    7. Re:Lucky you by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      Makes me wonder if someone at MS is over at some designer message board right now asking for advice on software engineering. ;-)

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  2. use wifi by alen · · Score: 2

    the guy in charge of the office will love it, no wires. very pretty

    1. Re:use wifi by PktLoss · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wifi is.. nice, but I wouldn't use it in a full office environment for everyday access. It's a big brick room, lots of computers, lots of interference. Not only is WiFi slower, but you end up with less throughput as interference requires random packets to be retransmitted.

    2. Re:use wifi by pete-classic · · Score: 4, Informative

      The bigger problem is that having many nodes means having many collisions. The aggregate capacity of the WiFi channel goes down as the number of nodes increases. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSMA/CA

    3. Re:use wifi by gravis777 · · Score: 2

      I think the parent was tongue-in-cheek. That said, if they won't let you run wires, wifi may be your only solution.

      Actually, this may be more than the company wants to spend, but talk the guy in charge of the building into installing raised floors. Run your cabling underneath. Then you don't have to worry about pretty trays or cabling.

  3. Sure by Stargoat · · Score: 2

    If it's a small office, you can use Ethernet over power lines. I have not used it before, but it seems to be what you are looking for.

    That being said, it's difficult to give up the 1000 Mb connections from modern ethernet cables, along with POE for phones, etc. The designer by not putting ethernet cables in place did your business a disservice. A secure business requires secure ethernet.

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    1. Re:Sure by bobbied · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If it's a small office, you can use Ethernet over power lines. I have not used it before, but it seems to be what you are looking for.

      That being said, it's difficult to give up the 1000 Mb connections from modern ethernet cables, along with POE for phones, etc. The designer by not putting ethernet cables in place did your business a disservice. A secure business requires secure ethernet.

      Ethernet over power lines? Yikes, that's about as bad as WiFi for security and it will be SLOW, SLOW, SLOW if you use a lot of devices in a small space...

      The ONLY solution that is workable here is to plan to wire up everything that doesn't move. Everyplace you put a power plug, plan for a network drop next to it with one or more ports.

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    2. Re:Sure by dskoll · · Score: 5, Funny

      And after you set up Ethernet over power lines, you can set up Power over Ethernet equipment thereby eliminating all cables without needing to use WiFi!

  4. 3D Print by hellkyng · · Score: 2

    Buy typical cable trays, and 3D print some sort of fancy colorful casings for them. You can use a variety of designs and colors for aesthetic appeal. Plus even if it doesn't look all that great it will still be "cutting edge" technology in use, which will likely appeal to your business folks. Plus you can throw a 3D printer in your budget...

    1. Re:3D Print by H0p313ss · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Buy typical cable trays, and 3D print some sort of fancy colorful casings for them. You can use a variety of designs and colors for aesthetic appeal. Plus even if it doesn't look all that great it will still be "cutting edge" technology in use, which will likely appeal to your business folks. Plus you can throw a 3D printer in your budget...

      Interesting idea, but given that it takes the average 3D printer hours to create something only a few inches across it's not terribly practical.

      It would be more practical to hire a basket weaver... ooh... woven trays...

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    2. Re:3D Print by Ja'Achan · · Score: 2

      Can't you just weave the cables in then?

    3. Re:3D Print by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      Is that a 3D printed gun in your pocket or are you just feeling suicidal and have a weak grasp on the economics of mass production?

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  5. Buy plain, decorate by PktLoss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I might not bother trying to find beautiful trays, but instead find regular ones, then decorate!

    Take something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AU3HG6?ie=UTF8&camp=213733&creative=393185&creativeASIN=B003AU3HG6&linkCode=shr&tag=preinheimerco-20&qid=1386087250&sr=8-5&keywords=wire+tray

    Then put these underneath: http://www.whatisblik.com/shop/explore?theme=77

    Turn your office ceiling into a pacman arena!

  6. Form over Function? Really? by ausekilis · · Score: 2

    Did this same person complain over the HVAC system? The only way I'm aware of to get away from seeing cable trays is false floor or false ceiling. If you don't have that option, your only choice is to try to make the cable trays "pretty", which is more or less making it look like the HVAC with large metal trays... it's up to you if you want solid or mesh, and you could probably paint them... You could also get creative with panduit for running down support beams or walls, just integrate the colors and make sure the panduit is thick enough to accomodate more than you currently have, running new wire is a pain in the ass.

  7. Contrasting rattle can colors by xtal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Use brightly colored cables, get metal cable tray and rattle can spray paint it a contrasting color. I've seen it done very well, and it does add a near technical feel to a space.

    Any interior designer could help you; if you're going for image, then that's probably not a bad idea anyway.

    If you're not going for image.. drop tile. :)

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  8. Best Of Both Worlds? by marienf · · Score: 2

    They're both right: The network guy about trays being a great solution, and the office designer about trays being butt-ugly.
    However, why not work some type of panelling below, rising to the sides of the trays? I'm not a designer by far, but is seems to me that
    hiding the trays cannot be exceptionally difficult, and can be done with much freedom of style. And all of that should be open from the top,
    and far enough from the ceiling to keep easy access.

    Next, the cables coming down. The covering should accomodate cabledrops without these having to "spill over", and in a way that keeps them very accessible. simple holes? Also, the cables themselves could be surrounded by some spiral or other form, lending them style and possibly even some strength. The spiral could even be strung between the casing and the desk, making it an active element of design, rather than a trick to 'hide the ugly cable'.

    the panelings could be cut/painted in a themes shape/color, of be kept elegantly simple, depending on the design of the surrounding office.

    -f

  9. Train the office pets? by hawguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    You do have office pets, right? Just give them a collar with clips that hold SD cards, then train them to go to the server room and fill up the cards with data and return them to you.

    Latency is a little high, but bandwidth can be pretty good - as they say, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Golden Retriever with a collar full of SD cards.

  10. Look at rain gutters... by mspohr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some years ago when I moved my company into a new office and wanted to keep the cost down, I installed rain gutters (and occasional downspout) on the walls inside to run telephone and ethernet. It was inexpensive compared to official cable trays and hid the wiring nicely.
    Gutters are standard architectural details and since they are very visible you can find nice looking designs and colors.

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  11. Easy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Simple: Ditch the servers and move to cloud. Then fire all your IT staff and replace them with contractors from India.
    1. No need to work about the aesthetics of the server room.
    2. Your office will now have additional space with the removal of all that ugly looking IT equipment.
    3. Your managers will no longer have to listen to petty arguments by the IT workers.
    4. You company will save money by hiring cheap IT workers from India.

    Its a WIN-WIN situation for everyone!

  12. Industrial look get industrial looking cable trays by Que_Ball · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can get really nice industrial cable trays.  Mount them high enough that they aren't immediately noticeable but they maintain that industrial and exposed look.

    The good ones are powder coated so you can get a colour of your choice to match the office.

    Use a tool called a cable comb when you are running the cables to put the cables into very straight and neat bundles.

    Here is the manufacturer of a good quality system for cable trays:
    http://wiremaidusa.com/
    (they have many resellers.  Your cabling contractor likely deals with a supplier who can get this)

    Here is the cable comb tool for making straightened bundles of cables that look neat in they tray:
    http://www.acomtools.com/

    If you want something more enclosed then you can go to full conduit installation using metal pipes.  The pipes can then be painted to match your ceiling colour.

  13. Beautiful to the eyes, but what about the ears? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Informative

    "My company prides itself on an office environment that follows a modern design aesthetic: open floor plan, bold colors on the walls, cool lamps in the corners."

    I'm happy for you that your office is pretty. But where do you go when you need to stop "collaborating" and get some actual work done? Or when the group at the bench across from yours is "collaborating" so loudly that your group can't hear each other talk?

    Open floor plans may be great for some jobs, but they are poison for work that requires concentration, especially when that work also entails remote collaboration. If you find this isn't true, I'd like to hear more -- especially about how you handle conference-call participation when there's a loud discussion nearby.

    (Yeah, I know I'll take an "off-topic" hit to my karma for this. Sorry; it's a hot button at the moment.)

    1. Re:Beautiful to the eyes, but what about the ears? by DutchUncle · · Score: 2

      ++this. Sorry, I don't have mod points at the moment. In my experience, open plan is plain stupid for an office. Home, maybe (except maybe there's a *reason* the kitchen should be hidden, so you can leave it messy while dinner is served :-) ) Even high cube walls don't keep out the noise where I am; our little area has 8' walls in a 12' space, but there's a customer-contact group on one side that doesn't seem to know that one can use a phone without the speaker, and clerical staff on the other that chatter away all day. I have to wear earplugs much of the time.

      Off-off-topic back to main, why so much hate on this page, rather than appreciation, for a place that attempts to care for the staff's comfort (even if I think their style is misguided)?

  14. Re:802.11ac by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Informative

    NO NO NO NO NO. Wifi is not a direct replacement for wire, its just not. Wifi should be supplemental to the network, not the basis for the network. If you are choosing wifi for aesthetics in a business setting, you are in the wrong line of work.

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  15. Cableporn ? by alexhs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You might want to get some inspiration from reddit / imgur cableporn sections.

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  16. Re:Talk to a good carpenter. by mlts · · Score: 2

    I'd second the recommendation for a CNC shop. Anodized aluminum, whatever color you want, or if anodizing isn't up to snuff, powder coating, or having it dipped.

    Your choice of shapes, fasteners, how things attach. Combine this with pairs of holes for zip ties, and it will be a fairly neat server room.

    Another thing I've seen was fiber optic multiplexers that would take a rack of 10gigE signal, run it along one fiber to a de-muxer near the router. That way, there is one, and only one network cable from each rack. If power is done so it comes from underneath (preferably 2+ PDUs), this will make things fairly tidy... well until people start stringing cable for their pet projects again.

  17. Q: Any suggestions for beautiful cable trays? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2

    A: Live, nude women.

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  18. False flooring is the way to go. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
    I think almost all places with masses of cables and the need for constant maintenance go for false flooring. Almost all the power grid control stations, space launch control centers all of them have the consoles full of switches standing up in the middle of a remarkably clean floors. Most workers "scoot" on the uncluttered floor on chairs on casters. Given the amount cabling these things need, how do the do it? Mostly by creating a false floor and running the cables under it.

    Long back in a aeronautical facility (in India) I was surprised by the presence of toilet plungers in the corners of many rooms. When I asked one of the technicians he said, they are used to create the suction needed to pull up any tile on the floor, to access the crawl space below. Instead of providing trap doors at a few locations to get to the crawl space, these guys pull up any tile anywhere on the floor, reach in and grab the cables!

    In USA if some one would make carpets or under-carpet padding that can accommodate cables without making the surface uneven on top, it would make a killing. Quick someone patent this.

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  19. Model railroads by stillnotelf · · Score: 2

    My office has exposed cable trays. Some of the length has a toy model train running through it. Perhaps you can leave the exposed cable runs but spice it up with toy trains and hamster tubes?

  20. Electricity for computers by Kohath · · Score: 2

    Do you have electricity for the computers to use? If so, someone was once able to install wiring. Call that guy to install network wiring.

    1. Re:Electricity for computers by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      it's an open office. the designer just figured they'll use laptops and ipads. that's what is on all the design brochure adverts anyways on the tables.

      (you _do_ make an exceedingly good point though. what the fuck are you going to do with datalines without power? it's the friggin designers problem. the day he starts designing coffee houses he can forget about cabling...)

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