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U.S. Measles Cases Triple In 2013

An anonymous reader writes "The U.S. Centers for Disease Control have announced that measles cases in the U.S. spiked this year, rising to three times their recent average rate. It's partly due to a greater number of people traveling to the U.S. when they're infectious, but also because a frustrating number of people are either failing to have their children vaccinated, or are failing to do so in a timely manner. Dr. Thomas Friedman said, 'Around 90 percent of the people who have had measles in this country were not vaccinated either because they refused, or were not vaccinated on time.' Phil Plait adds, 'In all three of these outbreaks, someone who had not been vaccinated traveled overseas and brought the disease back with them, which then spread due to low vaccination rates in their communities. It's unclear how much religious beliefs themselves were behind the outbreaks in Brooklyn and North Carolina; it may have been due to widespread secular anti-vax beliefs in those tight-knit groups. But either way, a large proportion of the people in those areas were unvaccinated.'"

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  1. Duh by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It goes without saying that the moronic get what they deserve, though sadly, when herd immunity is compromised, sometimes the innocent (those who cannot be inoculated) pay the price too.

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    1. Re:Duh by compro01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It goes without saying that the moronic get what they deserve

      The moronic parents aren't getting what they deserve, it's their children that are paying the price.

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    2. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Survivorship bias. If you had died from one of those illnesses, you wouldn't be able to post on Slashdot and tell everyone.

    3. Re:Duh by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 5, Insightful

      just because you were lucky doesn't mean that others are hypochondriacs: as somebody who is suffering lifelong health issues due to measles (when I got it there were no vaccines yet, it was a long time ago) anybody who doesn't vaccinate their kids for it deserve as much scorn as they get in my book, but unfortunately you can scorn all you want it will be their kids that pay the price of their parents' choice.

      How would you like it if you had a kid, did not vaccinate them because of some mumbo jumbo you heard on daytime tv, they get measles and become deaf? what will you tell them when they grow up and figure out they have a lifetime of deafness to look forward to because of your choice? or maybe they get something even more fun like Meniere's (look it up) due to damages to the inner ear that happened due to the virus? or maybe simply they will die from it like a non insignificant number of kids do? what will you do then? or maybe you don't consider deafness, lifetime balance/vertigo and death "serious stuff"?

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    4. Re:Duh by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nice, you survived. You have a daughter. She's happily married, you're expecting your first grandchild.

      She gets rubella. Your grandchild is born severely disabled because of the disease, but will likely survive and live a long and unhappy life.

      How do you feel?

      Fact is that around 40-60% of children did not survive to adulthood before vaccinations. Most of them died to various infectious diseases that we are forgetting they ever existed because of vaccination. You can be that other 40-60% that survive. Congratulations of getting good cards in that particular game.

  2. Thanks, Jenny McCarthy by therealkevinkretz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and other idiots

  3. Anti-vaxxers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I actually have a co-worker who refused to get the MMR vaccine for his two children, both of whom came down with the measles last year. They didn't shun the vaccine because of religious reasons; rather, Jenny McCarthy convinced them that it would give their children autism. And while it's entertaining to watch this, and it's fun to sit back and mock these people, their belief system, and the consequences of their actions, the fact remains that these idiots are a real threat to our herd immunity.

    The real answer to this is education, although that's almost as dirty a word as "vaccination" in 2013 United States.

  4. The really sad thing is vaccines improving by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We even now have a permanent Tetanus combo booster shot (TDAP) instead of the old every ten year one (that probably expired, don't step on a rusty nail!).

    Correlation is not causation, but not getting an MMR measles mumps rubella shot is just criminal. Without herd immunity we're starting to see hospitals requiring people to wear masks or stay in isolation wards, measures we never had to do before the "fad" of not getting shots started.

    And, no, I don't care what your objections are - there are nasal spray versions of all the shots, so stop endangering everyone else with your stupidity.

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    1. Re:The really sad thing is vaccines improving by compro01 · · Score: 5, Informative

      You could at least get your talking points from somewhere that at least updates them. Thiomersal is gone from all childhood vaccines except flu, and even then it's only in the multidose vials.

      And guess what? The removal hasn't done anything to autism rates or anything else.

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    2. Re:The really sad thing is vaccines improving by realityimpaired · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What he said should probably be qualified with the phrase "without a medical reason not to". My partner hasn't had all of her shots either, but that's because she had a heart transplant when she was 11 and has a compromised immune system. And I'm seriously pissed off at any fuckwit who, without a similarly good reason, puts her health at risk by not getting their own immunizations.

  5. I'm an Anti-VAXxer, you insensitive clod! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    PDP-11s forever!

  6. So.. by benjfowler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So... this is what happens when you don't use your brain -- and you take medical advice from a stripper.

  7. Re:stop the sensationalist crap by samkass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Measles is tracked in part because it's really easily preventable with a safe vaccine which had eliminated it on the North American content a decade ago, and because it's one of the single most virulent diseases known to man. In a susceptible population, breathing the same air of someone who has it will make you 90% likely to get it. Many of the "pandemic" worst case scenarios is the measles virus combining with a more deadly virus to create a super virus, but even without that measles complications are common and can lead to permanently reduced vision, encephalitis leading to brain injuries, or other long-term problems. In the developed world the death rate is something like 0.3%, but in the undeveloped world it's sometimes over 25%. Nasty, easily preventable stuff worth tracking.

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  8. Not to worry by arthurpaliden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After reports of half a dozen or so children dying because they were not vaccinated parents will start getting their children vaccinated again. Pitty some kids will have to die first though.

    1. Re:Not to worry by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, the parents involved will blame the medical establishment for not saving their child.

      Measles is a serious disease that we have an established and functional protection from that they refused to use but they will blame the doctors for not being able to save their snowflake from the disease. There have already been people in this thread claim Measles is not a big deal when before the vaccine it used to kill anywhere from 1 in 10 to 1 in 4. In fact every 10 killer in 1950 is no longer on the list because of vaccines and IIRC in 1950 Measles was number 2 on the fatality list, right behind small pox and in front of polio. Only one of those diseases is gone, with the anti-vax campaign we're going to see a resurgence in the other two unless they can get rid of polio before some jackass brings is back from Pakistan.

  9. Re:So the vaccine has a 10 % failure rate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, 10% of the people who were infected were also vaccinated. That doesn't mean there is a 10% failure rate in the vaccine. There are many many more people vaccinated than not vaccinated. To get the actual failure rate you would need to compute number_of_people_vaccinated_and_infected/number_of_people_vaccinated_and_exposed. With the later being very difficult to calculate.

  10. Depends... by trims · · Score: 5, Informative

    When comparing modern mortality improvement over the older pre-industrial, pre-modern-medicine regimes, the "most helpful" reductions vary with the age group you're dealing with:

    • INFANT (i.e. under 2 years of age) mortality reductions are overwhelmingly due to two things: (1) improvements in reducing childbirth deaths and complications (2) infant vaccinations. Sanitation (but not necessarily clean water) has helped somewhat, but not anywhere near as much as getting the kid out of the mother in good shape, and effective pre- and post-natal care. Vaccines (even though most aren't fully protected until after 2 years of age) have nonetheless stopped cold the huge killers of infants: measles, smallpox, pertussis, etc.
    • CHILDHOOD (2-12) mortality reductions are pretty much split between vaccinations and improved clean water/sanitation, maybe with the latter edging out for bigger impact (probably due mostly to reducing malaria, cholera and typhus).
    • TEENAGE (13-18) mortality reductions are due to a combination of vaccines (TB, smallpox, polio, and measles being a big here), clean water/sanitation, and trauma medicine.
    • ADULT (18-65) reductions are mostly clean water/sanitation, with trauma medicine following up behind. Vaccinations aren't a huge contributor here, since the vast majority of folks died of the major vaccinated diseases before they got to be adults, and thus, a much smaller percentage of people were saved.
    • ELDERLY (65+) mortality reductions are heavily improvements in drugs and chronic illness treatments (think cancer and heart disease).

    Overall, clean water and sanitation probably win as the single most important advancement in public health, ever, but vaccines are a *very* strong second. Frankly, drugs are at best a distant fourth, behind even improved medical understanding of the human body (enabling more effective trauma and non-drug treatments of common diseases and accidents). Drug improvements really have helped two big categories of people: soldiers at war, and the elderly.

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