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Ask Slashdot: Best FLOSS iTunes Replacement In 2013?

First time accepted submitter cs80 writes "I've been looking high and low for a decent, open-source, cross-platform audio player that can import an existing iTunes library and sort my files based on their ID3 tags. Nightingale, with its iTunes-like interface, would have been the obvious answer, but its file organization feature was pulled for being too buggy. What open-source audio player did you migrate to after dumping iTunes?"

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  1. Re:You could always... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    winamp always worked for me. So simple, so tiny...

  2. Foobar 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's annoying, and a bit weird, but it works and can play FLAC. It's also gotten better than it used to be, I don't worry nearly as much about losing all my playlists now. Which is good because there's not really a central "library" where you can just look at everything : (

    Honestly though, I'm not sure there's such a thing as truly "good" music software. Just one you know how to use so you stick with it.

    1. Re:Foobar 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You've never used foobar2000, have you? I have used it for years and wouldn't imagine using anything else. It is completely user customizable and I have never "lost" a playlist. And yes, there is a central, user sortable media library in foobar2000. It's one of the core features.

      Nice troll though.

    2. Re:Foobar 2000 by moronoxyd · · Score: 2

      I have never "lost" a playlist.

      Lucky you.
      I made the same experience as GP. Some times (I haven't found any cause) some of my playlists have a filesize of 0.

      Also (and this is independent from the above mentioned lost playlists) foobar only saves changes on playlists on close. So if I rearrange stuff in playlists and then keep using foobar and it later crashes those changes are gone.

    3. Re: Foobar 2000 by phishybongwaters · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How exactly is that helpful in anyway? "how can I replace iTunes? " ...."don't use it in the first place". Congrats, you and those like you have made slashdot irrelevant, and a video-less YouTube. Christ the 3rd or forth comment is a racist one. Now tell me I'm gay and we can all walk away happy

    4. Re:Foobar 2000 by mrclisdue · · Score: 4, Funny

      In 8 years of use, I've never had foobar2000 crash, so I suspect you were either using an unstable component or you're not being truthful.

      Indeed, because your truth isn't anecdotal, and the rest of us just come here to waste time telling lies.

      I've used foobar200 for 8.1 years, and I've managed to launch 4 nuclear missiles with it, had it send an elephant to the moon, and just used it yesterday to bake a cheesecake. I, too, have never had it crash, but there was a near miss once on an Antarctic cruise.

      cheers,

    5. Re:Foobar 2000 by Anonymous+Cowled · · Score: 2

      Foobar2000. The only piece of software I really miss after moving to Linux.

      If you miss Foobar, try deadbeef. It's not as configurable, but it's a solid little player that will look very familiar to you :)

    6. Re:Foobar 2000 by mspohr · · Score: 2

      Which part of "cross-platform" don't you understand?

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  3. iTunes by issicus · · Score: 3, Funny

    just give up, like the rest of us...

    1. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I tried iTunes once. It installed crapware (Safari) and destroyed the file names of my entire music library, all without asking. I removed every trace of it right then and restored a backup of my music.

      From what I did use of it, it was slow and had the worst UI I have ever seen. The only reason anyone should ever used iTunes is if they are forced to (they own an iPod or iPhone) or if they are an idiot.

    2. Re:iTunes by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Informative

      or maybe
      1. software installs shouldn't default to bundling extra bullshit that really shouldn't be there in the first place?
      2. software shouldn't have features that mess with source files turned on as start up/initial defaults?

      itunes on windows is a piece of shit... hell so is quicktime. What started as a simple directshow/vfw codec turned into a monstrosity that installs tons of bullshit that is not necessary nor asked for.

      It doesn't mess with your source files by default.

      By default it copies the music you point it at on initial startup into its own folder. The source files are left 100% untouched, other than reading the data off the disk.

      Of course, this means that it essentially duplicates your music library on install, so if you're hurting for hard drive space you'll be in a world of hurt (i.e., you get duplicates of everything, thus doubling the size taken up by the music), but once it has read that initial folder of music it never touches it again. To counter this you can tell iTunes to work with the folder system you already have and to not manage it automatically. This is *not* the default option.

    3. Re:iTunes by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      How could it not support Apple's Intermediate Codec? - Apple Inter codec is something that was used by Final Cut Pro, which based its entire video handling ability on the Quicktime API.

      That makes no sense.

  4. best solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    fuck your iTunes library. Set up mpd with a decent client like ncmpcpp. Light years ahead of Apple bloatware.

  5. Clementine Player by cl0secall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... is what I went to after ditching iTunes. In addition to getting the podcast(s) I subscribe to, it plays Grooveshark and Digitally Imported in the same playlists as my local files.

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    1. Re:Clementine Player by Richard_J_N · · Score: 2

      I agree. Clementine just works, and stays out of your way otherwise. It responds quickly to external changes to the library (using inotify).
      For me, my music collection is a set of well-ordered files/directories, each with a .m3u playlist and appropriate tags. (The Unix "everything is a file" approach works well here). Then the music player is just for playback, for playing them, and not for editing tags (use easytag), ripping CDs (a shell-script), nor for buying music (CD store).

  6. Clementine by maugle · · Score: 4, Informative

    I like Clementine, mostly because it seems to be the only music player in existence which displays the image embedded in a song's MP3 file. All the others I've tried insist on displaying the same single image (which they found in the first song they happened to scan) for every song in my entire playlist.

    Also, If anyone knows of a music player for Android which can do the same, I'd love to hear of it.

    1. Re:Clementine by kevmeister · · Score: 3, Informative

      Rocket Player comes pretty close.It will allow my Android to do almost everything that an iPod will do including use the image from the file,though that has to be set in "Settings" or it will also use the image from the first song. The only place it fails is that it does not recognize the "Music Video" STIK.

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  7. Amarok/Clementine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    They both have the same library management mechanisms, and come from the same place. There are a bunch of differences though.

    Clementine is more old school and the development team seems to focus on online services (spotify, grooveshark and whatnot).
    The playlist management is pretty basic though

    Amarok is flashier and has much fewer online services, but is top notch for automatic playlists, both the automatic playlist generator and the dynamic mode are awesome.
    There was a GSoC this year that brought to Amarok the ability to import and export libraries from a bunch of other media player (including iTunes).http://konradzemek.com
    There's no official mac port though, because no Amarok developer uses a mac.

  8. Re:You could always... by Lisias · · Score: 5, Insightful

    winamp always worked for me. So simple, so tiny...

    So missed. :-(

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  9. An ugly spreadsheet that plays music. by tpstigers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow. Replacing that is going to be a tall order.

    1. Re:An ugly spreadsheet that plays music. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The OP's mistake was looking for something with the same iTunes style spreadsheet interface. Any half decent app will have a hierarchical display and powerful search facility, for a start.

      It was an absolute disaster when iTunes came out and everyone started to copy the interface. It held back advancements for years.

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  10. Shameless plug by gQuigs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ubuntu 12.04 Overview: http://bryanquigley.com/reviews/12-04-music-player-review-my-top-choices
    (also has a stuck on Windows section)

  11. Library & Playlist in separate windows by globaljustin · · Score: 2

    iTunes is sort of like a stubborn child...it will do everything else before the right thing...

    I use iTunes of course ;)

    One place iTunes still hasn't caught up to Winamp's late 90s releases..."playlist"

    See, if you never used Winap by default it had two windows that listed your music files...one was a "library" which listed all your songs (in a file tree if you wanted IIRC). The other was you "playlist" which was...the songs you were playing in order.

    You could of course save a cool playlist, and open it...all your saved "playlists" were also listed in the "library" window. You could have two "playlist" windows open at the same time...resizing each as needed...

    I know iTunes tried w/ their little "up next" thing but it's 5 abstraction layers and 10 clicks too many...

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  12. Quodlibet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    quodlibet has excellent searching and tag editing

  13. Never used iTunes by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've never used iTunes. I just use folders and store everything by /Artist/Album. It's easy enough to right click the folder and select "play in VLC".

    1. Re:Never used iTunes by NotSanguine · · Score: 2

      I've never used iTunes. I just use folders and store everything by /Artist/Album. It's easy enough to right click the folder and select "play in VLC".

      I do the same. I'm old so I actually own CDs and started ripping them all back in the '90s. I used CDex for that and it works really nicely. I use WinAmp to play my music and it works quite nicely as well.

      I tried using iTunes on some of my relatives' devices and it sucks really badly. I would say that just about anything would be better than iTunes.

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    2. Re:Never used iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Drag files to the playlist window. I don't need .M3U files, I don't need a huge "library" of anything and everything sorted 5,000 ways, wasting tons of hard drive space and CPU cycles building a database; I just need my files organized the way *I* want.

  14. Replace iTunes??? by BringsApples · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could probably go out and get a homeless person and just hand them all of your music. Just tell them to do whatever they want with it. It'll be a better interface, and at least someone will know where the hell all of your music is.

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  15. Logitech Mediaserver by m.hataj · · Score: 3, Informative

    This was the one and only serving a TB-size musiccollection well.
    You can stream to different speakers, laptops, mobile phones in parallel.
    It's really good as DLNA server and you can have him on Linux, Mac, Windows, NAS, BSD.

    http://www.mysqueezebox.com/download

    I'm not sure on the FLOSS status, there are a lot parts from this development on sourceforge and github.
    And yes, it's running local as your server without any ties to Logitech.
    Give version 7.7 up to 7.8 a try, higher ones are crippled.

  16. AIMP by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    A couple of months ago, I switched to AIMP. I hate iTunes like sin itself. Never liked anything about it. If I didn't have to use it to put files onto my wife's iPad, I wouldn't allow it anywhere in my house. I can't believe that in 2013 she can only use an iPad properly with one computer.

    AIMP even works with most Winamp plug-ins, has a clean interface and light footprint. The skin I'm using has some nice meters, a proper equalizer and everything I'd want in a player.

    I'd still be using Winamp, but I'm pissed that it's going away, so I just decided to uninstall it once and for all.

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  17. Try iTunes ... by psergiu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Try iTunes on OS X.
    It's much harder, better, faster and stronger that the Windows version.

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    1. Re: Try iTunes ... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 2

      Might want to turn the volume down then.

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  18. Why not Nightingale anyway? by tlambert · · Score: 2

    I vote you go with Nightingale, and fix the file organization feature. IT's clear from your FLOSS requirement that you are a fan of Open Source, so send patches: that's what you do with Open Source.

    If you don't want to do that because you're not a coder, then you might as well just with a closed source product, since it's not like you'll be looking at the code.

  19. Re:screw itunes by ArbitraryName · · Score: 3, Funny

    How is babby duck formed?

  20. Re:You could always... by adamstew · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because it holds the key to millions of people's music that they paid for?

    The iTunes Music Store hasn't sold a song with DRM since April of 2009. Anyone who ever bought any song, that was DRM'd off the iTunes store is able to download a free DRM-free replacement anytime by logging in to their iTunes account...so long as that music is still currently for sale on the iTunes store. Heck, that replacement copy will even be upgraded to 256kbps quality too! If the music is still not for sale on the iTunes store, then anyone can use the good-old-fashioned burn and re-rip method to remove the DRM.

  21. Re:You could always... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    winamp always worked for me. So simple, so tiny...

    So missed. :-(

    Software whose installers are downloaded to local storage, run locally, and have no dependencies on web services, is never missed. It just works.

  22. Re:You could always... by jo_ham · · Score: 2

    and by "free" replacement you mean $.35 a song right?

    No, by "free" he the OP means "free as in beer".

  23. Re:You could always... by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

    The DRM still exists, it's just more subtle - they imbed your personal account info into the tracks you buy, so if you die and bequeath your music collection to your kids, they'll lose your entire music collection at best, and go to jail at worst - or possibly pay an exorbitant fine.

    Apple's claims of 'no drm' are bullshit, but most people seem to have bought into it (much like Google's 'do no evil' and look where that's gotten us). This blinkered acceptance comes part and parcel with the creeping surveillance society, apparently.

    You seem to not understand what DRM is.

    Tagging a file with your Apple ID is not DRM. What Apple is doing there is discouraging you from sharing your music with the entire internet, but not discouraging you from sharing it with your immediate friends and family.

    An iTunes file tagged with your Apple ID will play back on any music player capable of reading AAC files.

    If you die then your entire music collection isn't lost. It's just there on your hard drive. I wasn't aware that your hard drive got deleted when you die.

    Your kids certainly won't be sent to jail or fined for listening to it.

    Man, the Apple haters get crazier every passing day.

  24. XBMC (not for everyone) by revnoah · · Score: 2

    Years back when I initially moved away from iTunes, I used Songbird. Songbird was built with the Mozilla engine and closely mimics the functionality of iTunes. Unfortunately, the application had a persistent memory leak which would make it useless if left running for a couple of days. I've tried Rythmbox and Amarok but was never happy with those either. My typical fallback is VLC, which many others have suggested. VLC doesn't offer a nice music player interface but it's really easy to use, plays everything, runs on anything and won't hijack your music library. These days, I'm using XBMC. My music, along with my movies and television programs, are managed and played using this application. I have XBMC installed on 4 PCs (3 Ubuntu, 1 Windows) and can also play directly from the Android app. XBMC integrates well with Last.FM and Headphones, an application used to search, download and sort music files. You can also use XBMC to stream upnp to other devices, like an xbox.

  25. Wait.... Why are you using itunes? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    the ONLY reason to use itunes is that you own an iDevice or want to buy from the Apple store. If you are not doing that, why the hell are you using itunes?

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  26. MediaMonkey by DaTrueDave · · Score: 2

    You could always just use iTunes, if you want something like iTunes.

    Or you could switch to something that works, like MediaMonkey: http://www.mediamonkey.com/

  27. Re:Amarok as long as you have enough RAM by Sir+Realist · · Score: 2

    I think Amarok has a fantastic user interface and helps me manage my files well. My only complaint is that it crashes about 50% of the time if I ask it to actually play music. Apart from that its great.

  28. Re:You could always... by jo_ham · · Score: 2

    If you're going to bold the word "rights" there, then can we make a pact here on slashdot to never call it "Digital Restrictions Management" again?

    As seen in this thread, the term "DRM" seems to mean "whatever makes Apple/Sony/Microsoft/hated-company-du-jour the bad guy".

    I picked a pretty generic place to cite the definition (wikipedia) - that supports my position, but apparently that's not enough. I guess all the wikipedia contributors are in Apple's pocket or something.