Linux Voice Passes Its Crowdfunding Target

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Linux Voice Passes Its Crowdfunding Target

Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday December 10, 2013 @04:03PM from the congrats-to-all dept.

super_rancid writes "The team that quit Linux Format magazine to launch a competitor that pledges 50% of profits back to the Free Software community, plus the release of all its content as CC-BY-SA after nine months, have hit their ambitious £90,000 Indiegogo crowdfunding target. The campaign now includes endorsements from Karen Sandler, Executive Director of the Gnome Foundation, Eben Upton, Founder of the Raspberry Pi and Simon Phipps, President of the OSI, with the first issue promised for February 2014."

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Readership by simonbp · 2013-12-10 16:19 · Score: 3, Funny

I'm sure all eight people who still buy physical computer magazines will quite excited.
1. Re:Readership by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 16:25 · Score: 0
  
  And a whole bunch who buy e-books.
2. Re:Readership by exomondo · 2013-12-10 16:56 · Score: 1
  
  It's not so much that since it will be available on the web but my question is what will be better about this? Linux Format is well known to be a quality publication and this new magazine is supposedly authored by many of the same people. What was so wrong with Linux Format that this new Linux Voice will rectify?
3. Re:Readership by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 17:10 · Score: 0
  
  They got "frustrated" with their previous employer, and so set out on their own. They probably just weren't getting enough of this
4. Re:Readership by The+Cat · 2013-12-10 17:49 · Score: -1
  
  Tell the truth. You get a gigantic erection when you act unimpressed, right?
  At least these guys are making something useful. The average Slashdot reader couldn't make dogshit if they backed a dump truck full of scrambled eggs into a kennel.
5. Re:Readership by TheSeatOfMyPants · 2013-12-10 19:18 · Score: 2
  
  That they got £90,000 in Indiegogo funding as rapidly as they did suggests that even taking donations by orgs into account, there's got to be a hell of a lot more than a handful of people interested in reading it.
  My decision will depend largely on how much issues cost here in the US...It sounds like it would be interesting to flip through when taking a break from electronics (Itry to do that for a while each day), but Ifrankly can't afford the high prices I've seen other UK-based Linux magazines.
  
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6. Re:Readership by pinkushun · 2013-12-10 19:49 · Score: 1
  
  You just made my day!
7. Re:Readership by TyFoN · 2013-12-11 00:33 · Score: 1
  
  I resigned my Linux Journal subscription the moment they went away from paper.
  Geek news is in abundance on the internet. Having a tablet in the toilet just is not a substitute for a magazine.
8. Re:Readership by TWiTfan · 2013-12-11 01:41 · Score: 1
  
  Christ, even the Linux *magazines* inevitably end up with everyone squabbling and forking.
  
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9. Re: Readership by Sigg3.net · 2013-12-11 06:44 · Score: 1
  
  +1
  I subscribed to LJ, Linux Mag and Linux Format in print. I stopped renewing LJ when they went PDF only. Still miss the BASH tutorials. I stopped renewing Linux Mag when I left corp IT (it's very business oriented).
  Which leaves LXF. The magazine and the podcasts are informative, insightful and entertaining. And they represent both Free software enthusiasts and Open Source pragmatists, debating technology and politics without just looking at the cost/economic side of things (software as products for consumers).
  
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10. Re: Readership by IrquiM · 2013-12-11 07:08 · Score: 1
  
  So, who are the other 8?
  
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11. Re: Readership by IrquiM · 2013-12-11 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  Erh, 7! Damn you autocorrect!
  
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There is a linux magazine? by JamieIanMacgregor · 2013-12-10 16:38 · Score: 1

I like linux and all but I cant see the point of a magazine, is this for people who have no internet tubes in their impoverished nation? and can afford reading material...and can read...
1. Re:There is a linux magazine? by compro01 · 2013-12-10 16:39 · Score: 1
  
  It's a digital magazine, not just print.
  
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2. Re:There is a linux magazine? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 16:52 · Score: 1
  
  Fair enough, though still not sure they've fully embraced the digital bit, since the whole concept of an "issue" is based on having to consolidate information to a publication to minimize printing costs.
  Why not just post each individual article when they've been completed and edited (OK, I admit the concept of "editing" an article also appears to have gone by the wayside given the quality of a lot of online articles)
3. Re:There is a linux magazine? by sunderland56 · 2013-12-10 17:05 · Score: 0
  
  It's a digital magazine
  Ah, well then. A digital magazine is *so* much better than a web site, because... er.... well it just is.
4. Re:There is a linux magazine? by beelsebob · 2013-12-10 17:43 · Score: 1
  
  It's like one of those "build your own boat" magazines, first issue only $0.99 *
  Each one comes with a tiny bit of source code that you must manually type in to lovingly craft your own linux distribution.
  * Future issues $99.99
5. Re: There is a linux magazine? by AvitarX · 2013-12-10 18:01 · Score: 1
  
  Perhaps I want to be able to read it when I dont have internet access? Which I disproportionately dont when I want to read.
  I suppose HTML storage can limit the importance of issues, and a custom app can too, but having a chunk to download and read is something I won't mind. I dont stream all my podcasts either, and appreciate a regular weekly release date rather than some here and some there.
  
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6. Re:There is a linux magazine? by TheSeatOfMyPants · 2013-12-10 19:11 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Believe it or not, there's still hobby-specific magazines of all kinds... There's 3-4 general Linux pubs, a couple devoted to distros or environments, and then in the general tech-geek category, 2600: Hacker Quarterly, Make, Maximum PC and a bunch focused on other hardware/OSplatforms. That's not even taking the magazines focused on general science, specific scientific fields, weird shit like Mental Floss, or non-STEM topics.
  If someone can use Linux, they presumably can read. They might be, as Iam, too poor to pay the high cost of most (or all) Linux magazines (they're high in the US, at least) Personally, I always buy 2600, plus sometimes Writer's Digest, Renaissance Faires & Culture or something else that catches my eye. I was quite excited to score a bunch of old 2600 back issues last year at a garage sale, too. :)
  The reason why someone with Internet access would read a periodical in any form is that the writing is usually of much higher quality, which means that the information is presented more coherently & concisely, letting us learn more about the subject (or at a more in-depth level)with less effort than we would from most online publications. Many of the popular web-only publications -- Salon, Slate, HuffPo, TechCrunch, TechDirt -- are like that, managing to turn even important subjects into mental fluff that probably won't stick in our minds any longer than it takes for us to comment. (I say "many" because I know of a very few sites like Ars Technica that soar above the rest.)
  As for why anyone would buy them on paper, there's a number of reasons. One is that we can then read with full-color illustrations without having to use a backlit screen, which is great for problems like temporary light-sensitivity (e.g. due to a migraine) and chronic insomnia. Another is that many people still find it much more physically relaxing to read on paper, and/or find that they're mentally sharper after a long session of paper-reading than they are if they were reading... There's also that while tablets (for those that can afford them) have gotten much better at taking & referring back to interline/margin notes, many people still don't find it as convenient or intuitive to flip back through the device as with a paper copy or to refer to it when working.
  
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7. Re:There is a linux magazine? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 23:58 · Score: 0
  
  >the writing is usually of much higher quality
  Nonsense.
  The writing of online publications is usually of much higher quality, which means that the information is presented more coherently & concisely, letting us learn more about the subject (or at a more in-depth level)with less effort than we would from most dead-tree publications.
  See what I did there? I write something down like it is the truth, but don't actually back it up with anything.
8. Re:There is a linux magazine? by Threni · 2013-12-11 00:05 · Score: 1
  
  "The reason why someone with Internet access would read a periodical in any form is that the writing is usually of much higher quality, "
  Citation needed.
9. Re:There is a linux magazine? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 03:05 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah, each issue has one file to type in.
  The first issue's file is called COPYING.
10. Re:There is a linux magazine? by JamieIanMacgregor · 2013-12-11 08:45 · Score: 1
  
  perfect, like that Mad magazine with 2 pages of basic code to draw Alfred's face... I never got that one working, but I suppose I was only 10 or so. it could have been a massive troll I guess. next I want the raspberry pi mag where I get an arm cpu with the first issue and have to build a toaster oven to get it stuck on the board which comes with issue 99
11. Re:There is a linux magazine? by JamieIanMacgregor · 2013-12-11 08:48 · Score: 1
  
  I honestly cant say I've seen any linux mags in New Zealand before, any other NZ'ers out there seen any?
print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by raymorris · 2013-12-10 16:44 · Score: 5, Funny

If you get a monthly Linux magazine in the mail, you can read your nerdy news two weeks before it's on Slashdot.
1. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 16:56 · Score: 0
  
  The only way that's possible is if the editors/contributors who make the stuff scoop their subjects in such a way that Hacker News and the rest don't put it up on their websites *before* Linux Voice can print and mail their magazine. The only kinds of content that works for is deep background articles and topics that nobody else who publishes online first wrote about. Sometimes those are awesome shit that should have been written about earlier, but any 'news' in Linux Voice will be out of date due to simple paper-based publishing and distribution logistics.
2. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by Zemran · 2013-12-10 17:30 · Score: 2
  
  Is delivery really that slow?
  
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3. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by gl4ss · 2013-12-10 18:10 · Score: 1
  
  uh man, even if slashdot is 1 month late it's still 1 month earlier than the printmags are.
  android studio ide from google? available in june and mags had the "reviews" in august.
  the mags don't even try to publish news anymore so prepare for fake readers questions about using awk and mencoder, about how to use your raspberry pi as a mediabox-wifi-router and how to setup yet another wordpress blog. YEEHAAAW!
  
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4. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 18:12 · Score: 0
  
  No, but most print magazines are only published once a month or once a fortnight.
5. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by Black+LED · 2013-12-10 18:14 · Score: 1
  
  Another problem with print magazines is that they tend to consist mostly of advertisements. It makes you wonder what exactly you were paying for.
6. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by fisted · 2013-12-10 21:43 · Score: 1
  
  available in june and mags had the "reviews" in august.
  Well, with Android Studio becoming available in June, it can't possibly be reviewed in the magazine's 'June' release, for it is actually released at the beginning of April.
  It can't possibly go into July, since Android Studio wasn't available at the beginning of June.
  It went into the August release, and therefore was on time.
  
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7. Re:print - for nerds want news more timely than /. by nukenerd · 2013-12-23 08:29 · Score: 1
  
  Another problem with print magazines is that they tend to consist mostly of advertisements. It makes you wonder what exactly you were paying for.
  Not Linux magazines. In the case of Linux Format magazine there are just a few ads for cloud services and hosting. Consequently the mag is expensive - £6.49 a month, but there is a lot of editorial content.
FIRST POST by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 16:50 · Score: -1

be3n the best, leaving the play sim4le solution
Magazines in 2013? by johnsie · 2013-12-10 17:04 · Score: -1, Flamebait

Magazines were good in the 80s and 90's. But for fuck sake this it is 2013. It's all online these days. What a fucking retarded project.
1. Re:Magazines in 2013? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 18:36 · Score: 1
  
  Well in the rarified life of your Mom's basement then yes it might be online all the time. But in the rest of the world there are those of us who:-
  1) Like to be disconnected some of the time
  2) Live in areas where the access to the internet is just plain 'iffy' at the best of times
  3) Prefer dead tree editions over reading dots on a screen.
  as for me?
  1) and 3) apply and I'm increasing the time I'm 'off grid' and doing other things with my life. Besides, I prefer reading dead tree editions when on the John.
2. Re:Magazines in 2013? by nukem996 · 2013-12-10 19:11 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  If you RTFA you'd see that this is an on-line publication in which you can choose to get a print copy. They promise to release their content 9 months after the print/premium user copies go out under the CC. They're also promising to donate part of their profits to open source projects.
3. Re: Magazines in 2013? by Sigg3.net · 2013-12-11 06:51 · Score: 1
  
  Not everyone is online.
  Not everyone reads online or on computers.
  I personally spent some 2500-3000 $USD on books this year. Believe me, a lot of interesting books, albeit in niche areas, are only possible to hunt down and order online.
  Makes you think about everything that's not mainstream enough to ever get the online baptism..
  Back to topic; printed material is great, makes it easier to read and learn.
  
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dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by raymorris · 2013-12-10 17:38 · Score: 2

The joke is that Slashdot is slower to post stories than the time it takes for a print magazine to go through copy editing, layout, printing, and mailing via extra slow post.
1. Re:dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 21:21 · Score: 0
  
  Wait, now I know *someone* is bullshitting me. Who comes to Slashdot for news, honestly?
2. Re:dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by gedeco · 2013-12-11 00:21 · Score: 1
  
  But one of the features of Slashdot: The same news gets posted minal twice .
3. Re:dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 02:46 · Score: 0
  
  Well, Slashdot used to have the tag line "news for nerds, stuff that matters."
4. Re:dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 10:55 · Score: 0
  
  That's not sarcasm, it's hyperbole.
5. Re:dictionary.com/sarcasm Slashdot is slow by formfeed · 2013-12-11 16:32 · Score: 1
  
  But one of the features of Slashdot: The same news gets posted minal twice .
  But if you get a monthly Linux magazine in the mail, you can read your nerdy news two weeks before it's on Slashdot.
Elsewhere in the world of dead trees.... by GumphMaster · 2013-12-10 17:43 · Score: 1

Elsewhere in the world of dead tree consumption: White Elephant

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1. Re:Elsewhere in the world of dead trees.... by JamieIanMacgregor · 2013-12-11 08:51 · Score: 1
  
  I wonder if I could get funding for 'the pink nosed elephant' - that's the one where you pull your pants pockets inside out for the ears and flop out your... well you can probably figure out the rest.
In depth articles by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 18:21 · Score: 0

The Linux Voice crew made a very good magazine before with lots of tutorials and nice articles that gives you the full story. Linux Voice is going to do the same, maybe even better.
1. Re:In depth articles by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 01:52 · Score: 0
  
  Sure, Andrew...
Typical... by p4ul13 · 2013-12-10 18:29 · Score: 2

...more Linux fragmentation. :P

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1. Re:Typical... by pinkushun · 2013-12-10 19:42 · Score: 1
  
  If the mag promises to cover various flavors across the gnu linux landscape, and the technologies and people surrounding it, then I would love to hear your reasoning as to how this is fragmenting the community.
2. Re:Typical... by Threni · 2013-12-11 00:03 · Score: 1
  
  He said Linux, not gnu linux. No-one calls it that.
Congratulations to them by TheSeatOfMyPants · 2013-12-10 19:20 · Score: 2

Congratulations to the Linux Voice team... I'm really surprised that kind of money could be pulled together so quickly, so I'm guessing you've got a nice solid base of support out there -- Ihope the publication process goes as well as your Indiegogo campaign did.

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Voice by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-10 20:48 · Score: 0

And here i clicked on the link because I thought someone was finally trying to create a definitive easy to use voice recognition system for Linux. The current distros are distinctly lacking in both use cases: voice dictation and command input. When will our home automation servers finally be able to interpret phrases like "Computer, play some Jazz music and dim the lights" with 100% accuracy?
Linux is well behind, devolved, regressed by AndreyWelsh · 2013-12-10 21:09 · Score: -1, Troll

Show me REAL operating system!
1. Re:Linux is well behind, devolved, regressed by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 02:56 · Score: 0
  
  Show me REAL operating system!
  See here.
About $13,000 per issue for content and design! by eatvegetables · 2013-12-11 00:50 · Score: 1

Don't know about the magazine itself, but the project's indiegogo FAQ is worth a read, http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice/. Some interesting info describing the cost associated with producing (not including print costs) a magazine these days. Some back of the envelope math suggests that they've raised enough to produce... But not print... One year worth of content. Not bad considering that they can still draw on subscription fees and advertising.
Re: About $13,000 per issue for content and design by Sigg3.net · 2013-12-11 06:56 · Score: 1

Since they were the ones getting advertisers and distribution for the LXF mag (Future didn't do all this, check out Everard's interview on Linux Action Show) they shouldn't have a problem getting the wheels turning.
Raising this kind of support and publicity surely won't hurt either.
I'm just sore about not being able to afford the lifetime subscription..

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wait- this ISN'T voice recognition software? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-12-11 12:15 · Score: 0

I was just about to get excited that we might start to catch up with certain other operating systems that have this working out of the box, in this here 21st century...