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Wikipedia's Lamest Edit Wars

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Who says Wikipedians don't have a sense of humor? While perusing Wikipedia I recently came across an article documenting the lamest examples of wikipedia edit wars over the most trivial things. As one wikipedian says: 'Some discussions are born lame; some achieve lameness; some have lameness thrust upon them.' A few of the most amusing examples include: Was Chopin Polish, French, Polish–French, or French–Polish? Can you emigrate from a country of which you are not a citizen? Can you receive citizenship if you already have it? The possibilities for intensive study are endless. Next up, Are U2 an 'Irish band' or simply a band that happen to be from Ireland, since two of their members were born in the UK? A heated discussion took place for over two-and-a-half weeks that resulted in at least one editor getting blocked and many more getting warnings. Next, should members of the Beatles be listed in the 'traditional' order or in alphabetical order? Another edit war which flares up continuously in The Beatles involves whether to identify the band as 'The Beatles' with a capital T or 'the Beatles' with a lower case t. The issue became so contentious it merited an article in the Wall Street Journal. One such installment of this saga was brought before the arbitration committee (by an administrator, no less) where it was quickly declared 'silly.' Next, Is J. K. Rowling's name pronounced like 'rolling' or to rhyme with 'howling'? Rowling is on record claiming she pronounces her name like 'rolling'. An irate editor argues that this is a 'British' pronunciation and the 'American" pronunciation of her name should also be noted. 'This is slightly ridiculous as she is English, and therefore of course will pronounce it in an English manner. Perhaps it rhymes with "Trolling"?' Finally did Jimmy Wales found Wikipedia or co-found it? 'Not surprisingly, those who actually were around at the time and know the answer stayed far away from this one. The casualty list has yet to be compiled, but no doubt editor egos will be among the worst hit.'"

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  1. Next up: Slashdot's lamest submissions by Huntr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or do we really not have that kind of time?

    1. Re:Next up: Slashdot's lamest submissions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course Slashdot has the time. Just look at Timmy playing with his new video camera or Samzenpus staring out the window. Loads of time.

      Do the reader's have the time? After that summary, I'd say "No".

      Hopefully, someone will now come along to yell at me for placing the final period in the above sentence outside the closing quote. Only way to save this thread I'm afraid.

    2. Re:Next up: Slashdot's lamest submissions by foobar+bazbot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My guess is that many Slashdotters, myself included, feel that the current U.S. convention for the use of punctuation vis-Ã-vis quotation isn't technically accurate enough anyway.

      FTFY. It's my understanding that the Brits currently use logical punctuation placement.

      (The thread's still doomed.)

  2. I have to laugh over the rolling vs howling... by DigitalReverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sometimes people don't think too far past the end of their noses. I mean they don't pronounce bowling like howling in the U.S. so it shouldn't be much of a stretch to pronounce Rowling like bowling instead of howling. sheesh.

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    1. Re:I have to laugh over the rolling vs howling... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's pronounced like howling because Chuck Norris pronounces it that way. Check-mate. :P

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    2. Re:I have to laugh over the rolling vs howling... by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Check-mate.

      I will edit that to be "Touché." instead!

    3. Re:I have to laugh over the rolling vs howling... by Longjmp · · Score: 4, Funny

      * I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think that the pronunciation change is more noticeable in US media.

      Well, the British are famous for some pronunciations too, especially when it comes to town names.
      Just look at the nice little town of Littlelancfordupstratdoushire, pronounced "oi".

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    4. Re:I have to laugh over the rolling vs howling... by daremonai · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, if she can't be bothered to pronounce her name correctly, why should anyone else care?

  3. Aluminium by Reliable+Windmill · · Score: 5, Funny

    I regularly replace misspelled "aluminum" with the correct "aluminium" whenever I see it in an article, but backwards people just revert my changes.

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    1. Re:Aluminium by Mr+Z · · Score: 5, Informative

      I know your trolling, but here's the actual history behind the name.

    2. Re:Aluminium by jdavidb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I will never forget the edit war over "yogurt"/"yoghurt." The ridiculousness was only eclipsed by the fact that the "yoghurt" guy won for years because everybody else realized it was ridiculous and didn't have the persistence to stay with it. IMO the system is broken when that kind of issue is settled by someone's personal passion and obsession.

  4. I remember giving up on Wiki by sandbagger · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd been contributing to an article on a film. We'd sourced plenty of material and it was a really in-depth affair.

    Then some ding-dong undergraduate deleted it and substituted his own 35,000 word essay. This boring shot-by-shot description written in stiff prose and sprinkled with gems from the thesaurus undid a year of work and good luck trying to get it repealed because his school buddies have plenty of time to wage an edit war when the rest of us are at work.

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  5. Remember UseNet? by minstrelmike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's got nothing to do with Wikipedia and everything to do with
    1. How people how argue and more specifically
    2. What pedants argue about.
    You want to argue about who's going to win the Super Bowl or be purged next in North Korea? Lots of good arguments and at the end, there is an actual measurable outcome.
    Want to argue about which is the best operating system? Lots of arguing there but no measurable outcome. You can measure which is the most popular but that's like saying the most popular music is the best music. We argue about music and art.

    But the arguments over word use and definitions of fact are the most vociferous because they are the most picky. And only picky, anal retentive types will argue so the arguments get more and more precise each time. When done well, we call it science.
    But it's hard to use words and syntax well when arguing about word definitions and syntax. If you see no difference between French-Polish and Polish-French, well then there's no difference between African-American and American-African. It actually is debatable. Uninteresting to most but debatable to many.

  6. Re:Repost (sorta): we had this sort of article bef by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your right about that. I always corrected minor errors and its really annoying when people keep on changing them back irregardless of weather their correct or knot.

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  7. Final answers to stop all discussion by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Chopin was Prussian.
    2. You can only emigrate from a countrybefore receiving citizenship while already being a citizen.
    3. U2 are a UK band with Irish members.
    4. It should be capitalized with a capital T as such: "the BeaTles".
    5. J.K. Rowling's last name is pronounced "roo-ling".
    6. Jimmy Wales co-opted Wikipedia.

    Now can we finally stop the edit-wars?

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  8. U2 is... by Fuzzums · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They evade their taxes in the Netherlands, so it's a Dutch band.

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  9. Re:The problem is by Wootery · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just try editing a Wikipedia article introduce a deliberate mistake and see what happens :)

    Worth mentioning that, in seriousness, you should never do this. It's Wikipedia vandalism, and waste's everyone's time.

    Instead you could just find a Wikipedia edit which corrected an error, and backtrack to see for how long that error was present on Wikipedia. No vandalism necessary.

  10. Re:Slow news day? by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's definitely news for nerds though. Only someone truly nerdy enough would actually give a damn.

    I stopped giving a damn and I stopped contributing to Wikipedia. The few times I tried to add information, sources and all, my changes got reverted by some wikidiot that didn't like how I changed things.

    They're complaining about not having money and begging for it with their own banner ads at the top; stop running the site like an unmoderated debating web forum and perhaps people will be more inclined to participate and to give money. That may mean having *gasp* an actual editorial staff, and cutting the wikidiots from edit privileges when they nitpick things that don't mean anything.

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  11. Re:Weather or knot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ask not for whom the wind whooshes, it whooshes for thee.