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Alan Turing Pardoned

First time accepted submitter a.ferrier writes "Today's computing would be unthinkable without the contributions of the British mathematician Alan Turing, who laid down the foundations of computer science, broke Nazi codes that helped win World War II at the famous Bletchley Park, created a secure speech encryption system, made major contributions to logic and philosophy, and even invented the concept of Artificial Intelligence. But he was also an eccentric and troubled man who was persecuted (and prosecuted) for being gay, a tragedy that contributed to his suicide just short of the age of 42 when he died of cyanide poisoning, possibly from a half-eaten apple found by his side. He is hailed today as one of the great originators of our computing age. Today he received a royal pardon."

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  1. Not enough, by Kenja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Charges should have been dropped. A pardon implies that he was actually guilty of something worthy of criminalization .

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    1. Re:Not enough, by Highland+Deck+Box · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is basically dropping the charges. You can't go back to 1952 and make the case disappear, but they can say that they regret what happened. It's entirely symbolic anyway since he's long since dead, and would be even if he had lived to old age.

    2. Re:Not enough, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But... at the time it was illegal to be gay, so yeah, at the time he was guilty technically.

    3. Re:Not enough, by makellan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To be fair to the Queen, he was guilty of something that was illegal at the time so a pardon is appropriate. The fact that it should never have been an issue, much less a criminal one, is, technically, not her fault. What she should do is pardon everyone who was ever convicted of being gay.

    4. Re:Not enough, by MondoGordo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. A pardon implies nothing of the sort. He pleaded guilty to a criminal charge. The only way to reverse that under the law is a Pardon. Whether or not homosexuality actually constitutes Gross Indecency (it doesn't btw) or even if Gross Indecency should be a criminal act is another matter entirely.

    5. Re:Not enough, by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Moreover, it should apply to all those criminalized, and convicted under this awful law. Alan Turing was a great man, sure enough. But he was not the only victim of this sadistic state. The least the state can do is a blanket pardon, apology, and striking from the records of the "crime" of being gay and acting on it.

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    6. Re:Not enough, by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What do you mean, technically? He committed a crime, there were witnesses, AND he confessed. You don't get any more guilty than that.

      Sure the law was completely unjust by modern standards, but that doesn't change anything. You'd be similarly guilty in most of the world today if you decided to marry more than one person. Or consumed particular psychoactive plants. These are the problems you run into when you try to legislate morality rather than restricting your judicial system to making sure people don't hurt or cheat one another.

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    7. Re:Not enough, by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now that that's out of the way, how about a knighthood. I can't think of many that have deserved it more.

    8. Re:Not enough, by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, they did. Three or four years ago.

      The response on /. then was pretty much "fuck the apology, where's the pardon?"

    9. Re:Not enough, by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He was a faggot and he should have been executed for his crimes against humanity.

      Before or after he saved your country's sorry ass?

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  2. What about everyone else? by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lots of men were charged with these insane laws. Why aren't they all pardoned? I see it as nothing more than a cute gesture. Everyone persecuted under these bullshit laws should be given full pardons.

  3. hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing that bugs me about this is that all you fuckers on the band wagon saying he should be pardoned in 2013 would be the first to call for his castration if you had been living in the UK in 1950. Seriously people are just as prejudiced now as they were 50, 100, or 1000 years ago.

    The boogey man just changes. Today it is (Nazi|pedophiles|Muslims) , before that it was homos, before that it was commies, before that it was Jews, a long time ago being a Canaanite could get you killed. I think the apology / pardon is utter bullshit, when people are treating others like shit and continue to treat each other like shit, and apology is just a way to make people feel better about themselves, and say hey 'We are better than those assholes living 50 years ago.' Well you aren't. Sure you would not castrate someone today for being a homo, but you would surely say that pedophiles need to be castrated. Yes that is right an 18 year old man having sex with, or even seeing a naked 17 year old girl has committed a sex crime and is considered by law to be a pedo. Most people would have no problem whatsoever killing / locking up pedos.

    Human nature does not change. It cracks me up when every generation thinks they are better more tolerant than those racist thugs who polluted society 20 - 30 years in the past. Those racist thugs that you hate so much are yourselves.

  4. Re:Like it does HIM any good. by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's just PR for little political people that want to pander to the Gay and Lesbian community.

    And it works.

    And why not? Any time you can do a little thing that makes people happy, why not? Even if it's a silly thing.

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  5. Re:Like it does HIM any good. by n1ywb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Charges should have been dropped. A pardon implies that he was actually guilty of something worthy of criminalization .

    The poor bastard had to deal with the horseshit while he was alive. This pardoning and whatever long after he's dead accomplished nothing.

    It's just PR for little political people that want to pander to the Gay and Lesbian community.

    Of course it's accomplished something. It's sent two powerful signals. One, that the government admits it fucked up; nobody likes to admit they were wrong ESPECIALLY governments so lets give credit where credit is due. Second and more importantly, it signals that the government is serious about supporting LGBT rights. Thirdly it vindicates Turing's important legacy, his family, friends, supporters, and those like me who have always looked up to him. It would have been nice if it came 61 years ago, but better late than never.

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