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Ask Slashdot: State of the Art In DIY Security Systems?

An anonymous reader writes "For geeks that want to secure their home, it seems that the choice of Do It Yourself solutions are limited. And in case you prefer to use a company, most of them require to subscribe to a contract for 3 years that costs at least $20 a month. In case you want to make a DIY security system without a monthly fee, few options are available. Some products (such as ismartalarm, Lowe's Iris system or also the fortress security) let you install your own system but seem not to be very mature (for some the alarm is not loud, for others they do not use the internet and only a land line, etc.). Is there any recommendation for a basic DIY home security system for monitoring the house and just have notification by e-mail or through a mobile application? Is there any open standard for home automation and security devices? Any suggestion about how to build something simple, affordable and efficient?" How to top the big-name subscription-based security companies is a recurring question, but one worth exploring every once in a while, as sensors and software both advance, and especially as more and more people are carrying around phones well-suited as remote monitors for in-house cameras. (And here's a preemptive link to ZoneMinder.)

248 comments

  1. Is this advertisement junk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TSIA

    1. Re:Is this advertisement junk? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you're shillinoid, doesn't mean they not out to shill you.

  2. Build your own using LIRC and Linux MCE. by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

    If I told you, I'd have to thrill you.

  3. Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    DIY security systems are nice, but your insurance policy will dictate what you must have. Once you pass a certain threshold of personal property, they'll require you have a monitored system with specifics. What equipment and who you pick comes down to whether or not you want to fight the insurance company when you file a claim.

    This means most of us sign with the 3 letter well known company since we know it'll be rubber stamped.

    Posting as AC since my one flaimebait post from 5 years ago would bury this post. It'd be nice to have decaying karma.

    1. Re:Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pit trap, punji sticks, claymore, and shotgun trigger hooked to the doorknob.

      What?! I live in Cambodia, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Insurance? by zenlessyank · · Score: 0

      Wear your negative karma with pride, as it gives others an example to which one can judge another by. I know I do ;)

    3. Re:Insurance? by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 1

      My insurance did not ask for specifics. I get a call once in a while asking 'Is your house still monitored by an external company?'. To which I answer 'yes' and they go away happy.

      I suppose I might be asked to provide specifics in the case of a claim against burglary/fire: Can your monitoring company provide logs of emergency call? etc etc. But... well, they can. So, all's good.

    4. Re:Insurance? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      And here I was thinking you'd say Arkansas.

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    5. Re:Insurance? by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It doesn't matter if they say it is OK on a call. It matters if they say it is OK on a claim.

    6. Re:Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And keep in mind: They do not want to pay you. They really not want, no matter what they claim. They will be looking not only for reasons not to pay you, they will look for excuses!
      You better make sure what you do is sufficient that they cannot come up with an excuse or they will let you hang for drying, outside, without any payments.

    7. Re:Insurance? by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 3, Informative

      Perfectly understood. For my insurance premium reduction they simply require that an alarm be installed which is monitored - ie: automatic calls to police, fire etc. And I test my install regularly. They're quite happy with what I provide them.

      I also understand an insurance company's policy is to attempt to pay the minimum, or not pay at all, or other methods of reducing outgoings. I have to say though, that the company I have now - and I'll be quite forthright: It's Amica - were exceptionally good with Hurricane Sandy damage. They sent out an appraiser, gave me what I considered to be more than reasonable recompense. I have 10 computers in an office which got mashed by two trees. Normally they'd not pay out on 'large numbers of household items'. Like.. say you claimed for 10 toasters you said got ruined? They'd pay for only one, since that is 'normal' for a household.

      I had called them the year before to explain: I have all these computers in my house, do I need to increase my premium to cover them? They said 'no', you're fine. They made a note of it in my file, and come time to claim? They paid for 10 computers.

      I could not be happier with my insurance company. :P

    8. Re:Insurance? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      This is the important point, making sure that you keep your insurance company informed about atypical things that you want them to cover and confirming that those things are covered under your policy. In the case of the topic under discussion, if they are asking you if your house is monitored by an external company and you say "Yes", than your security monitoring had better be by an external company (even if that external company is one you incorporated for that purpose).

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    9. Re:Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I havent actually told my insurance company about the EMP at my driveway gate, the trebuchet at my end of the drive, the A.I. .45 cal guards at my doors or the Berlinesque shards of glass atop the 10 ft. wall surrounding my estate. Oh, its not so important, I AM my insurance policy.

    10. Re: Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously own way more stuff than me.

  4. Umm no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the US having a DIY alarm can be a liability. You still have to pay for permit, and subscribe to a monitor. You can cut the monitoring if you don't want it to alert the police, but then what is the point? Buzzers don't stop murders and they only alert thieves that they have a time limit now.

    1. Re:Umm no. by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 2

      If you're only 'alerting yourself' there's no fee involved. The 'alarm fee' my township imposes on me is, apparently, to cover false calls. (naturally my wife had one of these once...). They have a yearly false call allowance of.. once. After that they start charging you.

      I agree with 'what's the point' though. If I get burgled, I want the police to be notified, and either come shoot someone for me, or turn up with flashing lights if I'm away - not me sitting on a cellphone describing what they're removing from my house to a 911 representative.

    2. Re:Umm no. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      uhm..
      this and the insurance post.

      and I didn't even think of that the post submitter wanted to use it for either - what he wanted was just monitoring, and not wanting to hook up to others, not trying for insurance benefit.

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    3. Re:Umm no. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can cut the monitoring if you don't want it to alert the police, but then what is the point?

      In many jurisdictions, including where I live (San Jose, CA) the police DO NOT RESPOND to triggered alarms. 99% of the time they are false alarms, triggered by the cat, or a relative who doesn't know the disarm code. The police have better things to do.

    4. Re:Umm no. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Depends on frequency and volume of your "buzzer", at just the right frequency and volume you could easily incapacitate the intruder.

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    5. Re:Umm no. by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      You can cut the monitoring if you don't want it to alert the police, but then what is the point? Buzzers don't stop murders and they only alert thieves that they have a time limit now.

      There is no point in monitoring period. The buzzer going off alerts people who are actually in the area and possibly able to assist in some way. Talk to those people before there is a problem and come to a mutual understanding.

      If you betting on cops getting to you just in the nick of time after your monitoring company farts around going thru your contact list and then just ...drumroll ... "calls the police" to do anything other than file a report after perps have already fled your living a dangerous delusion. If your goal is not to be killed by a murder *you* need to be prepared to defend yourself, plan an escape route or hide in some kind of panic room and hope perps left their metal vapor torches at home.

    6. Re:Umm no. by BLKMGK · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Police? There in minutes when seconds count - if you're lucky. What thieves don't want is attention. People looking, people noting license tags, people calling the cops. If an alarm sounds in my home the very last thing I'm thinking is going to save me is the police but I will have been warned of trouble. Screw monitoring, I want NOISE and I want LIGHT! If you were a thief would you be robbing the home with the motion sensed lights and alarm warnings or the dark home with no signs or intrusion detection? Low hanging fruit is what scum look for.

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    7. Re: Umm no. by cbowers · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Depends where you live I suppose. In the greater vancouver area (Canada), I use US based Alarm.com The system is great and convenient with lots of system features, zwave stuff, automated locks etc. A few months ago our house was broken into. I was about 10 minutes away. I raced back and was greeted by 3 RCMP cars blocking my driveway, they were already inside sweeping the house. We lost nothing. The guy broke in via a rear window and sensor logs show he raced around the lower floor, missed easy pickings, pulled the knob off our stereo cabinet door, dropped it and exited via the rear patio door in under 2 minutes, and got away (until a couple weeks later a few blocks away). Earlier, my wife entered the unlock code on the door incorrectly, and inadvertently entered the duress code. I got a push notification on my alarm .com app, checked the sensor log and felt it was likely a false alarm. I called my wife to check in, she hadn't realised from the symptoms that she'd triggered the duress but it made sense to her in hindsight. I assured her to expect a knock at the door shortly, and sure enough, again the RCMP were there, insisting a thorough check of ID, an interview, and a tour of the house. I couldn't be happier with the performance of the system and the service. Far better than I had in the past with ADT, Chubb, etc. even in the same house with the same police force, the response was not that good, and in fact before I switched, I got a letter from ADT saying that there would no longer be a police response unless the monitoring company was able to connect to the home owner and the home owner requested it. On the other hand, no Neighbors, heard, noticed, or responded.

    8. Re:Umm no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can cut the monitoring if you don't want it to alert the police, but then what is the point?

      In many jurisdictions, including where I live (San Jose, CA) the police DO NOT RESPOND to triggered alarms. 99% of the time they are false alarms, triggered by the cat, or a relative who doesn't know the disarm code. The police have better things to do.

      Yeah like sitting in the donut shop.

    9. Re:Umm no. by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      Time to automate the house and set up the alarm to turn on everything when it gets triggered. I'm talking lights, tv, stereo, alarm clocks and more!

    10. Re:Umm no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I can only hope the police place more value on a burglar's life than your precious property.

    11. Re:Umm no. by hebertrich · · Score: 1

      All i read on the topic makes me think that the best security for the home is still to adopt a wild kodiak bear and let him guard the house in the family's absence . Soft , cuddly , though a bit grumpy on the edges Call Adopt-a-Bear and live happy ;) Tigers , i am told by people in the know , are also excellent to keep a house safe .. who knew ..

    12. Re: Umm no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes. I used to work for a large monitoring service. We did an analysis of our false alarm rate: it was 99.6% --- stupidly high.

    13. Re:Umm no. by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Criminals who routinely dine on low-hanging fruit will indeed pass by your well secured abode in search of something less challenging. Hell, a large, mean, barking dog with plenty of "Beware Of" signs will also do the trick.

      A professional burglar, usually lacking the meth addiction, would see your precautions as a sign there is something inside worth taking.

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    14. Re:Umm no. by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      Back in the late '70s, I shared a house with a guy who had a pet Bengal tiger. The animal was a real pussy (of the non-edible kind), but one time a prowler came round, sticking his head through an open window. The pussy-cat snuck up, put his nose to the intruder's face and purred or growled or whatever it is they do. That guy's screams were quite funny.

    15. Re:Umm no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Back in the late '70s, I shared a house with a guy who had a pet Bengal tiger. The animal was a real pussy (of the non-edible kind), but one time a prowler came round, sticking his head through an open window. The pussy-cat snuck up, put his nose to the intruder's face and purred or growled or whatever it is they do. That guy's screams were quite funny.

      It is also a Darwin Award waiting to happen for the owner. There's been plenty of examples of people who thought they knew and were safe with a big cat, and then it turned out they weren't.. You never are.

    16. Re:Umm no. by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2

      If you're only 'alerting yourself' there's no fee involved. The 'alarm fee' my township imposes on me is, apparently, to cover false calls. (naturally my wife had one of these once...). They have a yearly false call allowance of.. once. After that they start charging you.

      I agree with 'what's the point' though. If I get burgled, I want the police to be notified, and either come shoot someone for me, or turn up with flashing lights if I'm away - not me sitting on a cellphone describing what they're removing from my house to a 911 representative.

      While automatic notifications are nice, the latter scenario is more likely to get action from the police. They receive false alarms from the automated systems constantly. If you are on the phone with the 911 operator and you tell them "I am looking at the burglars on my security cameras RIGHT NOW!" it will get a faster response than if your computer calls them.

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    17. Re: Umm no. by beefoot · · Score: 1

      It really depends where you live. Some of these calls are nuisance to police. The police does not attend to this type of calls in where I used to live.

    18. Re:Umm no. by PuckSR · · Score: 1

      And if these professional burglars have decided to target your house, then you might as well just give up. It isn't worth your time or money to attempt to deter such criminals. If the gang from Ocean's 11(Clooney, not Sinatra) decide to take down your house you are royally fucked.

      People seem to have this idea that there are packs of professional thieves roaming the streets just waiting to rob them, their cars, or their homes. There are not. 90% of people would never commit a crime. Most of the remaining 10% might steal if they justify it to themselves and if they think they can get away with it. Then there is a tiny minority that performs a complex risk/benefit analysis and determines that the odds of getting caught are low and that the rewards are great. They become your professional thieves and it would take a great deal of effort and energy to stop them. Don't waste your time.

    19. Re:Umm no. by deathguppie · · Score: 2

      My house was robbed a few years back. We had an active alarm. The thieves were in and out while the alarm was still going, in the morning in broad daylight. They don't really care about alarms, because they, know they can be gone before anyone can respond.

      After that I put cameras up. I put them in inside corners facing out of the porches where they can't be walked around, and in other places they can't be reached. This has worked as much more of a deterrent, due (I believe) to the fact that no one wants to be ID'ed while committing a crime. Since a lot of these people are recurring criminals, if you have a good image, your local cops may actually know who they are.

      As for what system to use. I've used Zoneminder with IP cameras, and a couple HD USB cameras with powered remote hubs. The IP cameras (foscam) are the most unreliable of the bunch, simply because they tend to cut out when recording an event. You'll get the beginning and the middle, sometimes the end.. but never a full motion event. I've talked to other people and they say the same about a lot of IP cameras. The USB option is great, but there is a limit to the lenght of the USB cable that can be used even powered.

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    20. Re:Umm no. by rthille · · Score: 1
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    21. Re:Umm no. by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      The police have better things to do.

      And I wish they'd get off their asses and do them.

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    22. Re:Umm no. by demonlapin · · Score: 0

      Why? His property was purchased with his money - something he had to trade his life to get. Try to steal part of my life, I'll take all of yours.

    23. Re:Umm no. by swalve · · Score: 2

      What is wrong with you??

    24. Re:Umm no. by swalve · · Score: 1

      You can get remote USB boxes that run over cat 5. You can probably even get USB to IP doodads.

    25. Re:Umm no. by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with you? Exactly how much does someone have to take from you before they're literally stealing your life?

  5. Z-Wave by njbair · · Score: 1

    Z-Wave, the wireless mesh protocol behind most of these systems, is an open protocol. That means you can build yourself an a la carte system. Not just for security, either, but total home automation. You can even buy Z-Wave USB dongles that work with Linux. Of course you'll need software as well. Or you can pick up an embedded device such as Vera Lite. If you're okay with a small monthly fee, Nexia (formerly Schlage LiNK) is Z-Wave based.

    1. Re:Z-Wave by NoMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Z-Wave, the wireless mesh protocol behind most of these systems, is an open protocol.

      If by "open" you mean "closed & proprietary, but with some reverse-engineered partially-functional open-source API impementations", then you're right.

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    2. Re:Z-Wave by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Z-Wave is nice and works pretty well; I use it to control my lights, heating, sprinklers, etc. When I am away, it turns the lights on and off at appropriate times and lets me keep an eye on things remotely. But it is not reliable enough for when your safety is involved. What many Z-Wavers do is install a good alarm system (either wired or wireless) from a reputable firm, connect it to their LAN, and hook it up to their Z-Wave hub. The Vera hub is open to tinkerers; plug-ins for most popular alarm panels exist, and if it isn't you can roll your own.

      And, as someone already pointed out: ZWave is not open. However there is a reasonable certainty that equipment you buy from various vendors will play nicely together. Zigbee is a similar, open radio system but it lacks a standard for interoperability (though a few are emerging, like Light Link for lights and switches).

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  6. just think back to 1990s popup ads by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you looked into X10?

    1. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by Carnildo · · Score: 2

      I prefer Remington.

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    2. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer Remington.

      Most only need an app that will play the sound of a Remington 870's slide being worked. With half decent external speakers the unwanted visitor will decide to go somewhere else that evening.

    3. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by sylvandb · · Score: 4, Informative

      X10 went bankrupt in mid-2013. The current reincarnation purchased the name and IP at auction. So far they seem more professional, but time will tell if they can continue to build and improve the product line. http://www.x10.com/about-us/

    4. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      X10 for me too. Have X10 motion sensors, X10 USB receiver, always on nettop with x10 API, vbscript to email me when not in house(pretty fixed schedule so easy to do), and cheap webcams to see what is going on upon receipt of email. Local police number available, if I need to make "the call". Last time it was the mother in law showed up early, but who knows who it will be next time...

    5. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by mrclisdue · · Score: 1

      ...Last time it was the mother in law showed up early...

      So, your alarm works perfectly. Can you provide more details, you an' me gonna be rich...?

      cheers,

    6. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a thief really wants what's in your house, the sound of your shotgun slide will be followed by the sound of their handgun firing through the door you're hiding behind.

    7. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on. That's ancient. I've progressed to X11. Release 5 in fact.

    8. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      I used to make fun of a neighbor who had steel plates and compressed fiberglass panels installed around the doors on the interior of his home. I've put aluminum plates on doors before to stop the dogs from scratching them to hell when we have to lock them in a room or when leaving and they want to follow but I figured the guy was just paranoid or something.

      It wasn't until his passing from natural causes that I learned his job dealt with buying and selling jewels and he often brought them home with him. I guess it was common for him to have close to a million dollars in various diamonds, rings, gold, and other things in the house at any time. He never told anyone about his job or why he installed the stuff but the plates and fiberglass panels was to stop bullets being fired through the doors from hitting him while making it to a panic room. He also had a panic room with a safe inside it. The interesting thing is that his home was in a moderate income neighborhood. Not to many people in our neighborhood made more then 80k or so a year household income. Most of them were 60k or less. I guess his security was in part looking as if he didn't have anything of value.

    9. Re:just think back to 1990s popup ads by toddestan · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps you should set something up that plays the sound in a room you're not in, which can be triggered remotely. When the thief is distracted while firing into the room, club him in the back of the head with an ATX power supply.

  7. X11... by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 1

    I used their system for a while. It worked adequately enough although if there was a break in, I'm not sure what I would have actually done...

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    1. Re:X11... by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

      Run Xkill, click on the bad guy?

    2. Re:X11... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except there was just an article about X11/X.Org security being in bad shape.

    3. Re:X11... by sylvandb · · Score: 1

      This is /. so shouldn't that be "Run xbill, ..." ?

    4. Re:X11... by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      This is /. so shouldn't that be "Run xbill, ..." ?

      Well, if you run xkill, you'd kill the complete program with all the Bills in it with a single click. So, much more efficient.

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  8. Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called a Rottweiler.

    1. Re:Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a Beagle, twice the bark, but eats and shits a quarter what a Rottweiler does.

    2. Re:Simple answer... by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      What do insurance companies say about guard dogs, by the way?

    3. Re:Simple answer... by perpenso · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What do insurance companies say about guard dogs, by the way?

      "Here is your more expensive policy."

    4. Re:Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoooo's a good dog?..now whoooo's a goo..wait ...no, wait.. what the .. AAAHH GETOFFME

    5. Re:Simple answer... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      He's just playing.

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    6. Re:Simple answer... by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      And about as scary as a teddy bear.

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    7. Re:Simple answer... by OolimPhon · · Score: 1

      What do insurance companies say about guard dogs, by the way?

      "The insurance for your guard dog will cost more than the insurance for your house."

    8. Re:Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No known dog is bulletproof. GP is 100% correct, its function is to make noise. You're a dick.

    9. Re:Simple answer... by rthille · · Score: 2
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    10. Re:Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't attempting to be a dick, I was merely pointing out that some dogs are more intimidating than others and hence have greater effectiveness at providing a deterrent. If you don't acknowledge this then you're being deliberately obtuse.

    11. Re:Simple answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need a guard dog. Even the gentlest little poodle is enough to dissuade most burglars. If a dog is your thing then get one that barks at strangers.

  9. Blue Iris by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google "blue iris security software". I think it's $50 for the full version. It supports a wide variety of security cameras, including those pan and tilt wifi models.

    I paired Blue Iris with a 4 channel capture card (about $100) and four Bulldog wired cameras (about $28 apiece) and a few minutes work with dyndns and the built-in web server, and I can monitor my house from anywhere I have network access, and any movement will send snapshots to my phone and record an AVI that gets sent to a secure server. The software supports configurable "dead zones", so if you have a tree that trips the motion detector in the wind you can block it out.

    To my knowledge, this is the absolute cheapest you can go and have a usable configuration.

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    1. Re:Blue Iris by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      You can do the same thing with motion and some creative scripting. So... old box, some webcams, some time...

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    2. Re:Blue Iris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember that if you can access your system remotely, so can hackers.

    3. Re:Blue Iris by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      There's too big danger of some script breaking or doing some other schoolboy mistake.

    4. Re:Blue Iris by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Google "blue iris security software". I think it's $50 for the full version.

      Nothing on Blue Iris, but the mention of closed-source security-video monitoring software got me thinking about government black-bag jobs and software backdoors.

      Maybe this is movie-plot stuff, but wouldn't it be (technically) cool to put QR-code recognition into the software such that if you walked up to the camera with the right QR-code the monitoring software would disable the alarm, erase the last 10 seconds of footage and replace it with a static scene as if you were never there? When you are done, just show the camera a different qr-code to re-enable everything.

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    5. Re:Blue Iris by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      so what? test the stuff over a couple of weeks with everyone in the house going in and out

    6. Re:Blue Iris by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Really professional. :D

    7. Re:Blue Iris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really professional. :D

      Uh yeah, that's why it is called DIY...

    8. Re:Blue Iris by itsthebin · · Score: 2

      I run an OpenVPN server on my router and connect to my home network via that for camera access

      only the NSA can see me having a wank

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    9. Re:Blue Iris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The NSA would like to thank you for your contribution. We were throwing billions of dollars at this with no success. Now we can show something for it. Good job citizen.

      captcha: startup :))

    10. Re:Blue Iris by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      Why do more and more totally unrelated products suddenly come from Google?

      Seems like there is a flaw in capitalism at work here. Perhaps somebody ought to fix it.

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    11. Re:Blue Iris by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Of course you could do it yourself, but for $50 I can set it up quickly and get on to other projects. Your mileage may vary, as always.

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    12. Re:Blue Iris by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      closed-source security

      We learned in 2013 that this is an oxymoron.

      But, man, I can't get ZoneMinder to run its purge jobs reliably enough to not fill the filesystem.

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    13. Re:Blue Iris by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      www.blueirissoftware.com/

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    14. Re:Blue Iris by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you mean. Blue Iris does not come from Google. To my knowledge it's a one-man operation.

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    15. Re:Blue Iris by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      better than professional, testing with *your* use case

      canned solution might have problems with issues unique to your home environment, whether pets, roomba, HVAC, ceiling fans, sprinklers etc.

      my friends with the commercial alarm systems have been through all that and more....

    16. Re:Blue Iris by CBravo · · Score: 1

      Do you propose p2p-search instead of google-search? Interesting thought.

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    17. Re:Blue Iris by swalve · · Score: 1

      It can't break unless you break it.

  10. Real Geeks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a dog, a big dog that goes WOOF.

    1. Re:Real Geeks... by MrNaz · · Score: 2

      Why buy it? Surely there are open source options for that sort of thing?

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    2. Re:Real Geeks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dog goes WOOF.

      But what does the fox say?

    3. Re:Real Geeks... by JustOK · · Score: 1

      That it was Obama's fault.

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    4. Re:Real Geeks... by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      Or you could really scare the crap out of them!

  11. Ubiquiti Airvision + mFi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's not as reliable as it could be yet, but I've set up a couple of these now and they worked for my jobs well enough. (Assuming version 2, original release sucked if you had more than one or two cameras.)

    Is it a complete solution? Not yet. I've been working with some of the mFi stuff and it's okay too.

    For an on the cheap system, I'm pleased enough. I'd *really* like to see the two product lines integrate with each other better though.

    http://www.ubnt.com/mfi
    http://www.ubnt.com/airvision

    1. Re:Ubiquiti Airvision + mFi by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      I was surprised that I had to read so far down to see Ubiquiti mentioned.

      I've just purchased 11 devices and instead of buying the NVR I spent about the same amount of money on a quad-core SFF PC from TigerDirect and installed Linux Mint on it. Version 2 of the software has a lot of, if not all of the features that seem to be in Zoneminder etc and although the cameras are in plastic cases, the specs on the devices themselves aren't half bad considering the price.

      Apart from the software being java-based and I've read that the CPU load can be a bit high (although I'm not seeing that on my install). I'm currently monitoring 2 locations about 1.5km apart and for the purpose of acting as a deterrent, the system does what it says on the tin, and I could add more cameras pretty easily (the plan - eventually - is to have about 60 cameras at 6 locations in 4 states).

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  12. Zoneminder is nice by FridayBob · · Score: 2

    Our site uses Zoneminder together with Axis M1054 cameras. However, although these IP cameras can produce 1280x800 dpi images at 30 fps, we run them at only 1 fps because of the high load that this would otherwise put on the local server's CPU. So I suppose the program could be further optimized, but otherwise we are quite happy with it.

  13. Vista Alarm and AD2USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy a cheap vista (15p, 20p, etc) alarm and some sensors off of ebay or home security store and an AD2USB from alarmdecoder.com - you can self monitor or integrate into existing home automation. Roughly $200'ish initial investment, but 0 thereafter.

  14. 2GIG systems are great, but you need a maker outlo by smjespy · · Score: 2

    The 2GIG systems can be installed yourself, but you have to prepared to research. They are big enough that third party monitoring companies support them, but they are really designed for installer use, so a DIY installation requires a bit of know-how. I replaced my ADT system when they bought Brinks, and I really didn't save a lot of money, but I got a degree of control, and avoided the monopoly. Pleased.

  15. Visonic is pretty awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not many vendors tho

  16. Great advice by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Yes roc, depending on your country and laws, thats the neat way set up :)
    Great software on fast a i5 or i7 cpu with 24/7 server quality HDs and a way to get the data when alerted to another external system.
    No use having the person walk out with the only recording :)
    Another tip would be to read up on any HD cameras - some have more unique password and port settings for their HD stream, others just work :)
    Read up on test sites about night use, not all are great at night for the price.

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    1. Re:Great advice by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's also worth remembering (since the objective is to be more secure by the time you've finished) that the firmware of IP cameras is largely crap. Maybe I'm doing some Chinese OEM slave factory whose owner's savant cousin actually cares about the firmware a disservice; but you can't afford to assume that any networked camera, wireless or wired, is anything other than a nasty infection waiting to happen. We are talking 'firmware builds even worse than the ones on $20 routers, except much more enthusiastic about sending video of your house to the internet' here.

      You probably will find that (unless you really love running coax), IP devices, some of them wireless, will end up being what you go with; but whatever you do, segregate that crap on its own network with no direct access to the wider world. Any offsite storage/monitoring/messaging goes through a properly configured computer only, not the devices directly.

    2. Re:Great advice by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think you have to ask what are the cameras actually for. In an ideal world they would get a nice clear image of a burglar's face, which you could give to the police who would then quickly identify and arrest the suspect. Your stuff would be returned intact, they would go to jail.

      In reality you will probably get a partial shot of their face, assuming they don't just cover it. The police won't give a shit, most burglary goes unpunished even if you give them evidence. Even if they do catch the guy by then your stuff will be long gone or trashed. All you really need is a basic camera to prove that you were in fact robbed so that the insurance company pays up quickly, and to act as a deterrent.

      Some cameras support notifications when movement is detected in a certain area. Expect masses of false positives as the neighbours cat sniffs around your garden or the headlights of a car light up the driveway for a moment. Some kind of break-in alarm is best, on windows and doors.

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    3. Re:Great advice by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      You probably will find that (unless you really love running coax), IP devices, some of them wireless, will end up being what you go with; but whatever you do, segregate that crap on its own network with no direct access to the wider world.

      This is really necessary for pretty much everything, hence the rise of the application-level gateway. For instance, there's lots of remote vulns in VoIP products. Put them behind an asterisk server and keep it updated, never permitting direct connections, and you'll reduce your attack surface substantially.

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    4. Re:Great advice by jwest · · Score: 1

      The police won't give a shit, most burglary goes unpunished even if you give them evidence.

      +1 on that. My house was broken into a couple years ago and my laptop stolen. I had Prey installed, so I was able to give the police a picture of the thief from the laptop camera and the thief's IP address with the street address associated to their account. The response was "That's nice." They never did anything. Later, I even found out the guy's name, what kind of car he drove, and that he was committing other burglaries (I left Prey running for a few weeks after the theft and got all kinds of pics and screen caps). I gave it all to the police. They still did nothing. I gave up and wiped the machine remotely. The guy's probably still out there. At least where I live, the police are not interested in theft not matter how much you evidence you give them.

    5. Re:Great advice by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      "No use having the person walk out with the only recording"... Exactly. I think my solution has a little overkill; it sends the clip to one server 15 miles away and one server 200 miles away.

      The software also provides a smartphone-friendly website.

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    6. Re:Great advice by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      The Bulldog cameras I used are the ones with the fringe of IR LEDs around the sensor. They kinda look like the Eye of Mordor at night, but the night vision is very useable.

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    7. Re:Great advice by CrudPuppy · · Score: 1

      Similar story, very different outcome.

      Guy took a bunch of shit from my car, I found him, gave all his info to the cops, and he's serving an 8-year term. The cop seemed amazed at the amount of personal info I gave him on this guy... I'm like "dude, any 20-year unix hacker can be a scary fuck on the Interwebs"

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    8. Re:Great advice by swalve · · Score: 2

      And now you're on The List.

    9. Re:Great advice by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      No, that's actually not true at all. As I alluded to in my original response, Blue Iris (the software I'm using) has sensitivity adjustments for how much motion causes the motion sensor to trip, and it allows you to block out certain areas where motion is common, like trees in wind. After a bit of adjustment, my system would not trip on a cat (although it'll trip on a dog if it's large enough). I had close to zero false positives, but I'd get an alert on my phone with a photo if, for instance, someone dropped off a package at the door.

      We had trouble in the neighborhood with someone going around letting dogs out of people's back yards. I thought I knew who it was, and caught her doing it to us on camera. Got a clear shot of her face and a clip of her doing the deed, turned it into the homeowner's association. Their lawyer apparently contacted her and she doesn't do it anymore.

      When my daughter was in grade school, there was a time when she was a latchkey kid, as her bus got her home an hour or so before wife got home. (I work in IT, which means late hours.) It was important to me to get that alert and see daughter enter the front door. I'd text her "welcome home".

      In summary, the important thing to me wasn't necessarily the alarm itself, but immediate information on what was actually going on at the house. That's worth much more to me than a trigger on a window that doesn't convey any information except that it has tripped, and could be circumvented. It's hard to disable a camera when you can't approach the house without tripping the motion sensor.

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  17. Simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Couple of plasma mines hidden under pots and pans; a few rigged shotguns, and an electrified door controlled via a very hard terminal.

    Should keep you secure from anything but an asshat with a pip-boy on their arm.

  18. Dont fall for the subsidies... by alanshot · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for a company that installs alarm systems. Dont want the insane mothly monitoring with a contract? Dont let them install "free" systems. You are paying many times over for the life of the contract for that "free" system.

    Pay for the T&M up front, and many local companies will do the monitoring for as little as $10/month. (ADT and other national companies wont, but odds are you have a locally owned company that will.)

    And beware DIY systems; If you dont do it RIGHT, you can end up paying more due to false alarm fees. Many municipalities charge per alarm after so many alerts. So if you dont know what you are doing and end up sending in multiple false alarm calls the the police, you could end up paying hundreds per incident in penalties.

    1. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by alanshot · · Score: 1

      A locally owned company might be more likely to go out of business, no?

      Yes. But monitoring is monitoring. A local company will use industry standard components. (ADT doesnt always as they are big enough to have stuff custom made)

      Your security installer or monitoring company goes under? Just call somebody else for monitoring. You just need a tech to reprogram who the panel phones home to in order to report the alarm.

    2. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by alanshot · · Score: 1

      Fuck off.

      You must be an alarm system sales guy or company owner. LOL

    3. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that my alarm master controller is available via retail channels.

      These days, a single Arduino board would probably meet or exceed its functionalities, which are:

      1. 6 binary zone inputs (12 DC switches wired in series on each zone).
      2. Autodialer for phoning the monitoring company
      3. Relay control for the alarm horn
      4. Keypad decoders for the local security panels

      Of the lot, only the actual telephone interface would require extra circuitry.

      The software is essentially this:

      1. zone monitors (if zone opens AND armed AND zone not disabled, fire the alarm)
      2. Keypad decoding logic, which is the most complex part. Arms/disarms alarm based on security codes, enables/disables zones, resets alarm, displays status.

      It's relatively easy to make a system that can be relied on to function as expected as long as you are just doing the above. It's when you start wiring in the coffeemaker and the landscape lighting that things get more complicated.

    4. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      You raise a good point. Also, the big name monitoring companies install junk, absolute junk. For the most part, it is hard-to-get junk, which means you have to source it from them when it breaks and they will want to charge to install it. Also, they will install it in the most inefficient method possible, and use methods which are more expensive for you in the long run. Instead of running wires to the central unit, they install battery powered components which require expensive specialty batteries. Their equipment registers false alarms at the rate of about one per month. After my three year minimum term, I turned mine off and didn't look back. I keep the sign in the yard, I think that is about 99% of the deterrent to thieves anyway.

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    5. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by bflong · · Score: 1

      More likely to be bought out, especially if it's been in business for only a few years. There are a lot of these guys that start the business with the sole intention of building up the subscriber base and selling it to the highest bidder. Find a local company, *with its own central station*, that's been in business more then 10 years. Look around for their customers, which you can find by looking for their window stickers. Ask them about their reputation.

      There are a lot of whores and trunk slammers in this business, but they're usually easy to spot if you know what to look for.

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    6. Re:Dont fall for the subsidies... by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not at all hard to get. Once you crack open the case, they are very generic stuff sourced from either GE or Honeywell (for the older stuff) or some Chinese company. Alarm motion sensors are simply overpriced ($100+) IR switches that also trigger your garden variety backyard light which can be had for $10 or less. Door and window sensors are simply reed switches usually with a 10k resistor in parallel.

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  19. Many options by pirodude · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are looking for either the HAI Omnipro II or the ELK M1 gold. Check out http://cocoontech.com/forums/ for all the information you will ever need.

    1. Re:Many options by fear025 · · Score: 1

      I second this, a dedicated hardware solution is going to be more reliable than a pc-based solution. Plus those Cocoontech forums are a wealth of information.

  20. Motion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Motion - I have a number of cams, some are common usb webcams, 1 is a real IR IP security cam, the IP cams would be the best but cost a bit more, but also can be put outside, and have significant night vision.

    Motion is configured to save any images with changes above a certain threshhold, and can also be setup to copy those images to someplace else (a HD hidden someplace, or in a big heavy gunsafe--some have usb passthroughs, or via internet/email to elsewhere).

    I have been using this for years, and at the very least unless someone burns down everything (and deletes the remote copies) then there will be records of some sort.

    It it is also much simpler to setup that zoneminder.

  21. Standards based interfaces? by Paul+Carver · · Score: 1

    I haven't looked into it lately but it used to be that composite analog video (i.e. NTSC/PAL) quality was the only standard. Any higher quality video was proprietary and often required Internet Explorer. The only other option was using something like zone minder or motion to grab jpegs as quickly as possible and create videos after the fact.

    Has the situation improved? Are there cameras available that provide live realtime HD quality video without a dependence on the camera vendor's software or a web browser plugin?

  22. Installing it is One Thing by rueger · · Score: 1

    Our client base is primarily in West Vancouver BC - the richest municipality in Canada. The kind of town where a $3 million house is a "starter", and will immediately be pulled own to build a 20,000 ft McMansion.

    In many years of working with clients in WV, I can recall TWO that actually ever turned on their alarms, and would estimate that half of our clients don't even lock their doors.

    If nothing else they demonstrate that Vancouver's criminal class is either really dumb, or can't afford a bus pass.

    1. Re:Installing it is One Thing by AlterEager · · Score: 1

      Our client base is primarily in West Vancouver BC - the richest municipality in Canada. The kind of town where a $3 million house is a "starter", and will immediately be pulled own to build a 20,000 ft McMansion.

      In many years of working with clients in WV, I can recall TWO that actually ever turned on their alarms, and would estimate that half of our clients don't even lock their doors.

      If nothing else they demonstrate that Vancouver's criminal class is either really dumb, or can't afford a bus pass.

      Or maybe the clients have blown all their money on the McMansion and there is nothing inside worth stealing?

    2. Re:Installing it is One Thing by swb · · Score: 2

      You laugh, but I think a lot of resistance to mass transit expansion/funding is from people in affluent neighborhoods who don't want "poor people" able to get to their neighborhoods easily.

    3. Re:Installing it is One Thing by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Many, if not most, of today's class of people who take things that don't belong to them are opportunistic addicts who would stand out and/or feel completely out of place in a neighborhood such as the parent suggests.

      Fact is, this class of thieves is more likely to steal from, in, and around their own class of townfolk.

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    4. Re:Installing it is One Thing by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      A resident in a neighborhood such as you describe is likely to employ a maid, landscaper, and an occasional contractor. Someone is always home, cleaning, repairing, and so on, so the alarm is seldom armed.

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    5. Re:Installing it is One Thing by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Fact is, this class of thieves is more likely to steal from, in, and around their own class of townfolk.

      Or family.

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  23. Elk Products M1 Series by chazchaz101 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I had a good experience building a DIY security system based on a M1 controller from Elk Products. The documentation was clear and there are add on options for connecting it to the internet and interfacing with other home automation equipment.

    http://www.elkproducts.com/product_family_overview.html

    1. Re:Elk Products M1 Series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AC, sure, but I second the ELK hardware and systems as excellent. DIY install, full customization to my needs (internet, wireless door/window sensor support, integration with UPB lighting systems). I'm using a local monitoring company that calls me first, and have had no problems with false alarms.

      Also the M1G has an excellent programming/scripting language built in that lets you write just about any rule you can think of, and define/use numeric variables within those rules. "If the front door opens after sunset or before sunrise then turn on the foyer lights." or "When in vacation mode, if the last user was the cat sitter and it's been more then 1 hour since the alarm was disarmed, automatically re-arm the system". It's perhaps not quite Turing complete, but close.

      My only complaint is that the internet connectivity is somewhat limited in its integration with the programming. You have to predefine static email messages and recipients and then issue commands like "send message 1" rather than having the ability to use variable names within those messages and or adding extra current state.

      On the other hand, they do seem to keep developing the system and releasing new firmware with increased capabilities, and their customer support is quite good.

  24. Build your own... by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have done just this. After ADT refused to 'update' the installation I had done about 12 years ago, and wanted to charge me $800 or so AND continue to charge me the $50 a month for monitoring.

    So, I junked their old (crusty and mostly non-working) system and bought all my own kit. You'll find you can *always* buy better than what they give you in their 'free' package anyway, and tailor it to your own needs. You can find a monitoring company for around $10 a month. My insurance company doesn't care who does it, as long as it calls the police, alarms for fire, etc etc etc.

    So. Here's what I got :

    Vista20p panel. It's what most 'big name' companies install, except YOU get to set the 'installer code' and the ability to change / add stuff you hook up to it.
    Honeywell 6120RF keypad. You'll need a 'keypad' to program your panel. This one also takes care of wireless sensors.
    Various door sensors, heat / smoke sensors, break-glass sensors, Pet Immune movement sensors.
    Don't forget the siren :P

    If you have a landline, you can hook it up to this panel and have it call your monitoring-company-of-choice when an event trips. If you don't, you can get wireless addons which call them via cell-phone.

    All this stuff is easy to order, easy to physically install. The programming for the Vista20P is a bit arcane and reminds me of programming assembly from my youth, but a day or two with the manual and some judicious googling and you should be set.

    One of my requirements was that it hook up with the z-wave stuff I'd started installing, and I'm a fan of gadgets. So I *also* bought some touch panels with pretty graphics and stuff on them. They're expensive, mind (about $400 a pop) and their z-wave capabilities were limited. I ended up not using them for that and got a Vera-lite anyway. The wife, however, likes them.. so I consider the investment worthwhile (they can also display security camera feeds).

    Note: NONE of this stuff allows you to monitor without a contract to a company. If you want to do that, then you can buy the add-on daughter board for the Vista20P called the Envisalink3. Hook that up to your home network and it can send you mails and stuff when things occur. Also note: if you do that and your power goes out, and you don't have battery backup for the internet gateway it sends through, you'll uh.. not get notified.

    All this stuff I bought from 'the home security store'. Which is a haven for DIY'ers. They have a very helpful forum, very helpful staff and their prices are reasonable. I bought my bits a year or so ago and I've been a very happy customer.

    Links follow :

    Vista20P : http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-958-vista-20p-honeywell-vista-20p-security-system.aspx
    Wireless Keypad : http://www.homesecuritystore.com/nsearch.aspx?keywords=6150RF
    Touchscreen pads : http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-2081-tuxw-honeywell-tuxedo-touch-screen-keypad-white.aspx
    Glass break sensors : http://www.homesecuritystore.com/c-76-glass-break-detectors.aspx#Filter=%5BManufacturerID=7*ava=0%5D
    etc etc etc

    1. Re:Build your own... by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 4, Informative
    2. Re:Build your own... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The programming for the Vista20P is a bit arcane and reminds me of programming assembly from my youth, but a day or two with the manual and some judicious googling and you should be set.

      Glad to hear that nothing has changed since I was programming alarm and pbx systems in the mid-1980s!

    3. Re:Build your own... by mowen01 · · Score: 1

      Oh, and here's the envisalink3 which lets you do your own monitoring :

      http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-2164-evl-3-envisalink-internet-alert-module-for-dsc-honeywell-security.aspx

      I second the recommendation of the Envisalink3. I recently installed a DSC 1832 security system and the Envisalink3 board in my house and it was super easy and works perfectly.

    4. Re:Build your own... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. My dad works for ADT. He does corporate/government work, not home stuff, so I guess it's a different situation, but for the typical setups he does, he can actually get components cheaper than most people can on the open market.

      Posting anon for last name being in email.

    5. Re:Build your own... by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

      He probably can, what he can't do is sell that to normal folks cheap...

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    6. Re:Build your own... by angrygretchen · · Score: 2

      A Vista 20p panel is a good recommendation. If you don't want to go the wireless route for the keypands and sensors, then stick to the wired 6160 Honeywell keypad. The 6160 has a larger display then the other keypads, which makes gives you more characters for reading the sensor names, and makes programming easier. http://www.homesecuritystore.com/p-154-6160-ademco-alpha-keypad.aspx As far as wired sensors go, the two most important in my opinion are the door contacts and motion sensors. With these two types of sensors you can create an effective coverage that would detect most thieves. You can sign up for cheap monitoring with the Vista20p. Some monitoring companies have their own smartphone apps, that will let you arm/disarm your system with your phone, run reports for which sensor was tripped, etc.

    7. Re:Build your own... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did the same, except with a DSC Power panel. Yes - installing a system and configuring it requires some level of tech expertise. But it's certainly not hard once you figure it out and the installation manual for the DSC panel was AMAZING. Plus the outfit I bought my panels from offered UL Listed monitoring for like $8/mon. It's amazing how much money you can save and still have a professional class alarm system with solid monitoring.

    8. Re:Build your own... by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      The programming for the Vista20P is a bit arcane and reminds me of programming assembly from my youth, but a day or two with the manual and some judicious googling and you should be set.

      Glad to hear that nothing has changed since I was programming alarm and pbx systems in the mid-1980s!

      You had Google in the mid-1980's?

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    9. Re:Build your own... by chihowa · · Score: 1

      If you want to interface computers/etc with Ademco/Honeywell stuff, there's an interface module here that does the trick nicely.

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  25. Install an alarm panel without central moniting by aXis100 · · Score: 1

    Just about any standard security panel will have dialer options, which can then phone your mobile if there is a break in. Just fill your house with standard PIR motion detectors, and some nice loud sirens (inside) near your valuables so that it drives the thieves crazy. You can even go wireless these days to save on install fees, but I like the reliability of wired.

    There's lots of bands to chose from but I went with DSC (the PC1832 model - http://www.dsc.com/index.php?n=Products&o=view&id=2) because they are regularly used by commercial installers. They are well priced and available on Ebay, and any technically minded person should have no problem installing it themselves. This on it's own should be enough to make thieves move on to an easier target.

    For video surveillance then Zoneminder is an easy choice and works a treat. Also the DSC panels support a PC serial interface module so between Zoneminder and some scripting (or a home automation platform like homeseer) you can have a comprehensive monitored system that records incidents and can do something smarter about them.

  26. Roombas with flame throwers by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    A half dozen or so ought to be enough.

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      What? No sharks? No lasers? I'm sorely disappointed.

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    2. Re:Roombas with flame throwers by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      He's probably saving those for his houseboat.

  27. Front Point Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Front Point is a self install battery backed up cellular system with an android and IOS app. It is more expensive that ADT per month but with the low install costs it is only more expensive than ADT after 8 years

  28. Better uses for that $20/month by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are two better uses for that $20 per month. You could either bump up your dataplan so that you are sent lots of pictures to your phone of any vaguely interesting activity. Or if you have a good data plan then you could use $20 per month to get a data only plan for your security system so that it can communicate via your internet connection or via a cell data system as backup.

    My sister has me as a contact for her security system. So I have driven across town more than once only to find one of her family has set it off and the phone is turned down or off the hook. It would be great to just get a snap of whomever set it off. Neice. Nothing. Nephew. Nothing. Guy in balaclava with sack over his shoulder, call the cops and give them a blow by blow description of who is exactly where.

    So a DIY security system should not only be as good as traditional ones but should be way cooler.

    On a side note, don't mount the cameras up high looking down. All you will get is an image of the robber's hoodies or baseball cap logo. Mount the cameras in a concealed location at eye level. This way you basically get a mug shot. If you want cameras for deterrent you can get fake cameras to mount up high. The only cameras you want up high are to capture the over all picture. I will tell you that you will be sorely disappointed if your security camera only provides enough evidence to say that a guy(race unknown) 5'4" to 5'10" wearing a Blue Molson hat, a grey sweatshirt, jeans, and black sneakers took all your stuff. Get a good enough picture at eye level and the police will drive right over to the halfway house and arrest him 20 minutes later.

    1. Re:Better uses for that $20/month by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      On a side note, don't mount the cameras up high looking down. All you will get is an image of the robber's hoodies or baseball cap logo. Mount the cameras in a concealed location at eye level. This way you basically get a mug shot. If you want cameras for deterrent you can get fake cameras to mount up high. The only cameras you want up high are to capture the over all picture. I will tell you that you will be sorely disappointed if your security camera only provides enough evidence to say that a guy(race unknown) 5'4" to 5'10" wearing a Blue Molson hat, a grey sweatshirt, jeans, and black sneakers took all your stuff. Get a good enough picture at eye level and the police will drive right over to the halfway house and arrest him 20 minutes later.

      That's a good point, but since they are cheap, I would recommend having the obvious ones up high as well. They don't even have to be turned on. 90% of the point of an alarm system is prevention. If you can catch somebody in the act, that is just a plus. If they see video cameras, they are not going to be thinking that it will only see their hoodie. They will be thinking of moving on to another house. You are correct that you should hide the ones at eye level, otherwise they will steal it.

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    2. Re:Better uses for that $20/month by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

      You are correct, it is a good idea to pile on the cameras. Actually criminals are highly camera aware. But their general strategy is to conceal their face as much as possible given the environment. So if they are sneaking into an apartment building they won't completely cover their faces as that would be a huge signal to anyone crossing their path.

      The other key is to use resolution correctly. For an area camera even a greyscale 320x200 will give you a great idea of what is happening. But for the cameras that have a good chance of capturing faces or license plates you want ultra clear, low light capable, brutally high resolution cameras. This way the crappy area cameras won't waste too much storage space while you are pretty much going to make a blueray of the stuff that will get you the positive ID.

      If you watch the Youtube videos of various robberies you get a great view of the top of people's heads, and about all you can confirm is that they are humanoids. Basically enough to entertain us on Youtube but not enough for a conviction.

      My dream has been to create a security system that generates a 3D map of what is going on, with a few cameras able to pan/tilt/zoom so they can go right up to the faces and stay locked on while other cameras maintain the big picture.

      Ideally you could even combine that with some ML that would identify things that don't really fit. Say a person who passes by the house and looks at the house statistically longer than is normal. You would then be notified with the precise footage and you could then make a decision as to if the person looks like they are casing the joint.

  29. diy alarm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get an elk m1 gold with the ethernet interface. Its the defacto standard for alarm / home automation diy nerds. It can email you if its triggered or any other rule you create. There is also a Perl module that you can directly communicate with the alarm system. I have a Linux box that monitors the alarm and sends twitter updates for all zone changes etc.. Even sends me a pic if someone rings the doorbell. You can pretty well do anything with it.

  30. Roll up your sleeves by vandyswa · · Score: 1
    I just built such a thing over the last year. I bought PIR sensors and low voltage (i.e. telephony) wire. Hired an electrician to do all the runs through walls. It all ran back to a USB-1024LS which reads logic lines and plugs into USB. We already had a IP PBX running on a small 24/7 Linux box (which also handles DNS, DHCP, UPNP, etc.). Coded up a FSM to deal with all the alarm states, and wrote Asterisk AGI scripts to interface into the phone system (so dialing into Asterisk and having it talk to you with Flite is its UI). On alarm it can send e-mails and/or make phone calls. I beefed up the UPS so the alarm system and Internet feed can last a good long time even when the power drops.

    So... roll your own is a very reasonable proposition if you have some basic scripting skills and some very basic low voltage wiring skills. I went with a wired system because I could see that all the Wifi-based ones could be easily disabled with a simple jammer. It also made it easy to supply UPS-backed 12V power to the alarm sensors, since I had that low voltage wire run anyway.

  31. Elk M1 by Miamicanes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you don't care about out-of-the-box sexy experience, it's hard to beat the Elk M1 as a DYI'er. Their view of DIY'ers is largely ambivalent... they won't go out of their way to solve your problems, but the moment you furnish them with a valid M1 serial number, they'll give you access to the same training materials, downloads, firmware, and accessories as their pro installers. It's a strategy that works for them, partly because lots of those prosumers who buy one to install themselves end up starting companies to get certified officially and install the same alarm systems for other people.

    Just one thing... do... not... even... THINK... about buying a cheap TCP/IP-UART bridge for ~$20 on eBay and connecting it directly to both the internet and the Elk serial bus. Make sure you have some kind of middleware sitting between the internet and Elk serial port that can only do specific things, like indicate an active alarm, arm the system, etc. And if you don't understand what I just said & want your alarm to be internet-connected, pony up the cash and buy a proper M1-XEP interface for it. The Elk RS-232 bus was NEVER designed to be directly exposed to attackers over the internet, and mostly depends upon being inside a locked box for security. If you interface it to the internet in a way that allows arbitrary values to get blindly relayed straight to the RS-232 bus after reading this, you deserve whatever happens to you for being a complete idiot.

    The only thing it really lacks, IMHO, is the ability to implement Boolean logic for triggering alarms. For example, monitoring the state of the glass-break sensor, the door-shock sensor, and motion-detector and triggering an alarm ONLY if at 2 out of 3 fire within 20 seconds. And having similar logic in other rooms. The firmware in my controller allows you to "sort of" do something like that for a single zone, but IMHO it needs the ability to independently do this in multiple zones.

    The nice thing about the M1 is that thanks to Arduinos w/Ethernet and the RPi, you can actually extend its logic pretty easily by using the M1 as your low-level sensor interface, and moving higher-level logic to a Pi or Arduino on the Elk RS-232 bus (relaying events from sensors as they happen to that serial bus, and triggering things like alarms by sending events back to the controller via that same serial bus).

    Kludge-tip: if you're in a hurry to set up the system, don't feel like pulling wires right away to each room, and have an unused landline phone cable with 6 wires buried in the wall to hijack, you can buy input expanders and use the 6 repurposed phone wires to daisy-chain the Elk bus to strategic points in your house (1 pair for RS-485, 1 pair for +12v, 1 pair for ground). I had my own Elk M1 wired that way for almost 3 years, before I finally got proper conduit and wires pulled throughout the entire house. I had one M1XIN hidden behind the TV in the living room & plugged into the phone jack (which obviously wasn't used for an actual landline phone), and a second one upstairs behind the nightstand in the master bedroom, along with the equally-kludged keypad. Amazingly, it actually worked (if I had voltage issues, plan B was to add DC-DC converters to boost the voltage from 12v to 48v as it left the box, then drop it back down to 12v at the living room & master bedroom. Fortunately, everything used very little power, and the only time I ever had an issue was around year 4, when the backup battery finally died and the voltage started sagging.

    Oh... also... Elk's M1 can interface directly with X10, Zwave, Insteon, and some other standard that escapes me at the moment. The MSRP of their expansion boards is pretty high, but you'll never actually pay those prices anyway because there's ALWAYS somebody selling them for a relatively small markup on eBay. However, make sure you buy the main alarm controller itself from an authorized dealer. Elk DOES track serial numbers of main system units, and if a serial number is reported as 'stolen' by a vendor, they'll re

  32. Goals? by erth64net · · Score: 1

    What are your goals? Deterrent? Watch/record? Catch a thief? Glass breakage and/or entry detection?

    For us, we wanted to catch a thief, and to record their actions while onsite. If they hear a siren, maybe they'll leave sooner, maybe not. With a camera and well secured recorder, we'd hope to have a good shot at identifying a thief. Adding battery power and offsite wireless transmission of data helps even further. Pay-as-you go WiMAX services like www.yourkarma.com help keep those costs down.

    Also check out www.networkcameracritic.com for an excellent list of 2MP+ PoE enabled IP cameras (they recently reviewed a nifty 10MP fisheye camera). Stay away from the wireless cameras, as they tend to be less reliable than hard-wired (and you'll still need to run power to them anyways).

    1. Re:Goals? by Eskarel · · Score: 1

      A security system to catch a regular old burglar is a complete waste of time and money. Your odds of getting any usable footage of the guys face is fairly low to begin with, the odds that the police will be able to identify the person on the video is even slimmer, and even if they happen to know who it is finding the guy and proving it is even less likely.

      The purposes of an alarm system are as follows.

      1. To minimize the amount of time the thief spends in your house and in doing so minimize the damage and amount of stuff stolen.
      2. To make your neighbours house seem easier to break into(though you actually only need up to date alarm stickers for your windows to accomplish this, not an actual alarm system.
      3. To potentially reduce your insurance costs.

      Attemping to achieve any other goal is a long shot and a huge waste of time and money.

    2. Re: Goals? by cbowers · · Score: 1

      Not always so. In our case the same burglar had been hitting multiple houses in the neighbourhood. From the block watch reports, our house with an alarm.com 2gig panel was the only one not to have a loss. But though they thought they knew the guy involved, they didn't have proof. They did eventually catch him in the act some weeks later. But this is what caused me to buy a 2gig image sensor for $100 on eBay and add it to my 2gig/alarm.com system to cover the corridor used in our breakin. It's wireless and runs on battery for a year. It's a passive IR system that takes multiple still images, trigger by movement if the alarm panel is armed, based on rules I create on the panel, or manually on demand from the app on my phone. Images go to the panel and the panel uploads them by cellular radio to alarm.com. It's pretty painless to setup and use, not bandwidth expensive since it's multiple still images, so the usage is already covered by my monthly alarm.com plan.

    3. Re: Goals? by Eskarel · · Score: 1

      It can happen, it's just not hugely likely. You need one hell of a lucky capture to actually get anything identifiable enough to arrest someone and given the somewhat limited manpower available to the police they generally simply can't and won't prioritise non violent crime to actually do any significant investigation. We got done twice a couple years back(they seem to have come back looking for replacement items), forensics came out to do a quick fingerprint dust at the point of entry, but we never even saw a beat cop, just filed the police report for insurance purposes and moved on.

    4. Re:Goals? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      This is the first truly thoughtful post I came across, so I'll add my input here.

      You can go to a place like homesecuritystore.com and find all the pieces and parts for just about anything. I installed a simple hardwired system with a keypad, alarm board/box, battery backup, internal and external sirens, and two motion sensors inside place strategically so that you would have to pass in front of one of them to get from room to room. Cost was a few hundred bucks for a basic setup. (Mine was DSC brand). You can add phone connection or email alert features if you desire. Cameras are nice, but not as useful IMO.

      Get a sign and stickers. That's the first deterrent. If you can see through your front or other entry door, mount the keypad in plane sight. This is another deterrent. My theory is that many thieves know exactly the time response for the bigger companies. If they see a non-standard alarm system, they become less certain about what to expect.

    5. Re:Goals? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All of my stuff can be replaced but family cannot. The main purpose/goal for me is to have an alert WHEN FAMILY IS IN THE HOME DURING THE EVENT. Loud siren(s) inside are as much for ensuring we are awaken as they are to persuade an intruder to turn around. Once awaken, the next level of persuasion for them to leave is up to you, but my personal plan for that next step is very low tech.

    6. Re:Goals? by Eskarel · · Score: 1

      Setting up an alarm which will work when you're at home is an order of complexity higher than anything even remotely discussed in this thread. You're essentially looking at setting up some form of perimeter alarm to make that happen and trying to ensure that it's not set off by every cat in the neighbourhood. I've never even heard of anyone setting up anything effective in a regular residence.

    7. Re: Goals? by cbowers · · Score: 1

      This is likely location dependant. I used to subscribe to the theory that the yard sign and stickers were the best deterrent. Our recent breakin seems to indicate an end to that era. The attending police indicated that more often than not people put up the signs without having a system. So the thief likely didn't believe my signs. Also I'm no longer an ADT/Brinks or Chubb customer. My signs were from a local independent reselling the 2gig/alarm.com combo. Again no deterrent of uncertainty. The police response was hard and fast. Not fast enough to catch him (until a subsequent breakin wich I had the satisfaction of seeing when driving home and seeing a nearby block surrounded) but fast enough to eliminate loss in our case. I've also experienced that the system and monitoring company make a police response difference. This is likely due to false positive rates. Our previous system and monitoring company didn't guarantee response. Our current system has had only one false alarm (a misentered duress code too similar to a real code). But the demonstrated police response to exactly the things I'd hope they would was hard and fast.

    8. Re: Goals? by erth64net · · Score: 1

      I work with a team that installs PoE equipment for a living (largely; cameras and VoIP phones). Simply put, cameras, videos and pictures are far more effective than buzzers, lights, or signs/stickers. Both as a deterrent, and to catch a perp.

      Stick with the 2MP and higher resolution cameras though; don't be baited by unreasonably expensive ~600TVL cameras often found in bulk at popular electronic stores. When it comes to forensic identification requirements of 50+ pixels per foot, those lower resolution analog cameras are junk.

  33. Easier now than it has ever been by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Computers, sensors, webcams, wireless, batteries, mobile telecommunications networks and big dirty stinking bass speakers.

  34. buy alarm, $5 monitoring separately by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I've messed around with a few things. It turns out the traditional method gets two things right and one thing wrong. Simple wired sensors are good. Changing batteries in wireless ones sucks. Monitoring is also good. What sucks is the traditional marketing strategy, where you pay $50 / to cover commissions for various middle men and that "low cost" alarm.

    There are companies that provide the same monitoring service for about $5 / month. You may already own the alarm system. If not, you can buy a traditional alarm system at low cost. Of course you can also build one with something like a Raspberry Pi.

    This is one area where geek hacks don't end up making a lot of sense. China cranks out well designed alarm panels cheap and $5 / month for monitoring can't be beat.

  35. Ask Slashdot? by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

    Timothy, Timothy, Timothy. When will you ever learn? "Ask Slashdot" posts belong in the "Ask Slashdot" section so that those of us who choose to filter out those stories can do so. It doesn't work though if you keep posting "Ask Slashdot" stories in other sections.

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  36. get decent locks and make sure you use them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you buy physical security for a home what you are paying for is essentially Time.

    Given enough time anyone with enough determination will break into your house no matter what. Now how you setup your security all depends on your goals.

    Most crimes are done through opportunity that means open windows and open doors so your first course of action is to make sure you lock your doors and your windows. Don't just shut the door as 99% of people do, it makes me sigh when I see how many of my friends install decent locks yet never ever actually LOCK them. If you don't use your keys when you are leaving home you are not using your locks.

    Before buying into any kind of "security system" think about investing some of that money in some good quality deadbolts and window locks instead. Then use your locks every time you leave home.

    Decent locks will actually make it that much more difficult to break in meaning you have now increased the time it will take to break in. Now is the time for you alarm system to kick in to call the cavalry while the lock quit literally holds the fort. Now depending on your goals you can put the pressure on the burglar by signalling to them that they have been busted, this may be a gamble worth taking if you don't want to spend money on anyone actually coming. On the other hand if you want to try and catch them well then a silent alarm is your friend.

    Just installing an alarm system without good physical security (strong doors, door frames etc) will just give some nice footage of your gear being carted out the door that you can watch on your neighbors TV.

    Sure you can have your elite alarm system but it's only use will be to record a nice home video of your gear being carted out the door.

    1. Re:get decent locks and make sure you use them. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Obvious security cameras OUTSIDE help a lot as well. Thieves hate being watched, and if it is obvious you have cameras, then they tend to avoid the place. Real cameras not the garbage "fake" ones. anyone with an IQ above 40 can spot the fake ones from a mile away.

      an 8 channel DVR can be had for $100 (Zmoto) and cameras less than $40 each with premade 100 foot wires. add in a $40 multi camera power supply and you have a setup you can easily monitor from the internet. Although their software on the DVR is pure china crap, but I have seen the $2100 systems have worse software.

      The video security world is all poorly designed software on commodity hardware.

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  37. How hardcore do you want to go? by FuzzNugget · · Score: 1

    I've thought about doing something like this. I'm sure something could be rigged up with a few Raspberry Pis along with sufficient tinkering and script fu.

    Setup a number of them with camera modules and wifi adapters. Each camera Pi has a cron job to take pictures as frequently as you want and uploads them to a "master" Pi that acts as a web server for remote access and uploading to a remote server outside your home (in case it's stolen, you have captures to potentially identify burglars)

    I know I've seen motion detection utilities available for Linux. Set a cron job to switch on motion detection and alerts overnight. The server Pi could run apache to host a secured, web-based control and viewing system (there's your remote access). This can easily include controls for configuring any part of the system, ie.: toggling motion detection.

    Find out your cell phone carrier's SMS email gateway (they all have one) and have it send you a text when it detects motion that breaches your configured threshold.

    No, it doesn't have home integration or break-in detection. Maybe there's something that could be done with the Pi's GPIO, but I have no idea.

    Anyway ... state of the art / DIY & cheap / easy setup. Pick two.

  38. Synology or Qnap NAS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly recommend the Synology disk station or Qnap NAS solutions for IP monitoring.

    Both have video monitoring applications with multi-view, recording, web access, email notifications, Android and iPhone applications for monitoring on the go. They support a wide variety of off-the-shelf WiFi or IP based cameras.

    In addition each provides cloud sync applications for Windows, Android and iPhone and web access to your photo's, videos, audio and files. You get a DLNA server and with a Linux based OS you are free to install 3rd party applications like Plex, TeamSpeak, the list goes on.

  39. Simplisafe by shawn95gt · · Score: 1

    DIY install, no contracts and service as cheap as $15/mo. I use the $25 plan to monitor / arm / disarm from my phone and I get SMS alerts. I'm VERY happy with them.

    1. Re:Simplisafe by shawn95gt · · Score: 1

      and you can print a certificate of monitoring to make you insurance happy. State Farm is happy with my Simplisafe system.

    2. Re:Simplisafe by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      I was going to mention them. I've been considering buying an alarm myself for a while now, and they're the leading contender as far as I'm concerned. If I buy one, that's going to be the one. For the stuff I need, it's $400 for the system and I agree, I'd go with the $25/month plan just because I want the smartphone toys.

    3. Re:Simplisafe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 for SimpliSafe NO CONTRACT, No land line. Its all done via cellular. You do have to buy the equipment, but its relatively cheap and you buy what you want. All sensors are wireless. Insurance and local Police Department both recognize it as a real alarm system and respond as needed.

  40. Cheap wireless systems by drkim · · Score: 1

    There are some cheap wireless Chinese systems you can get fairly inexpensively.

    Some offer GSM/Cel phone dial out/listen in capabilities, multiple zones, and a variety of sensors: PIR, mag-contact, water leak, smoke detect, gas detect.
    They have remote, cel, or panel control.

    You can just add stuff until you get all the parts you want.

    No monthly fee. You can't have it dial the police directly (legally) but it could call you, you could listen in, and then you could call the police if you hear people breaking in.

    http://dx.com/p/dp-60-gsm-home-alarm-system-w-wireless-door-sensor-window-sensor-pir-motion-sensor-black-275911

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HOT-NEW-99-zones-wireless-GSM-alarm-system-with-LCD-Keypad-voice-Free-shipping-Promotional/453561713.html

    1. Re:Cheap wireless systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what if you have fallen and can't get up?

    2. Re:Cheap wireless systems by drkim · · Score: 1

      But what if you have fallen and can't get up?

      The tiny wireless remote has an "emergency" trigger on it (as well as arm/disarm)

      So, if you were elderly, you could program the system to call neighbors or family.

  41. Re: Install an alarm panel without central monitin by corychristison · · Score: 1

    I did Alarm installs for a local security/fire protection company for a while a few years ago.

    We used DSI and Paradox. DSI is much cheaper and easier to get going. I personally recommend spending a few bucks more and get a LCD keypad (vs LED).

    As the parent poster pointed out, commercial panels can be set up to dial out to any number including your cell phone for self monitoring.

    One thing to keep in mind is because it is common hardware, in the future you can always have an alarm company monitor it for you. You must be aware they usually require an install fee to reconfigure and properly test the hardware and signaling. Don't think you will save any money vs having them install it for you.

    You won't, however, be locked into a contract (36 months @ $30+/mo was normal when I was doing it).

  42. Security Checklist by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maybe this is a good time to review some anti-theft tips. Keep in mind the 4 D's:

    Deter
    Defend
    Delay
    Deceive

    * Install motion sensor lights on the front and back of your house.

    * Install a fake camera. For deterrent value, a fake camera will work as well as a real camera, but will cost far less. It should have a bright blinking LED to make it more noticible. You can buy realistic decoy cameras for less than $10 on Amazon.

    * If you install a real camera, make sure it is good enough to actually identify the perp. Otherwise, what's the point? Install several fake decoy cameras as well. If the perp is trying to avoid the fakes, he is more likely to be seen by the real camera.

    * Put a "Beware of Dog" or "Vicious Dog" sign on the gate to your back yard, whether you actually have a dog or not.

    * Put up a security alarm yard sign and window stickers, even if you don't have an alarm system. Yard signs and stickers are available on Amazon, eBay, etc.

    * Get some old, well worn work boots, size 14 or larger. Leave one pair on your front porch, and another by your back door.

    * When you leave home, leave a radio playing on a talk station. Set the volume so it is slightly audible from outside your home.

    * Set up timers to turn lights on and off when you are not home.

    * If you have an alarm that frequently goes off accidently, get it fixed. Otherwise your neighbors will ignore it.

    * Valuables should not be visible from any door or window.

    * Put wood dows or PVC pipe in the slide track of each window and sliding door. These should fit snugly, so they are not easy to dislodge by someone reaching through the broken window. Make sure everyone in your home knows how to remove the stop in case of a fire.

    * When not home, lock internal doors. This will prevent an intruder from moving quickly around your home.

    * Leave out some decoy valuables, such as an old laptop with no HDD, or some fake jewelry. Decoy valuables should be left in a conspicuous place, but not visible from outside.

    * Frost or laminate your garage windows, so a perp cannot see if your car is gone.

    * If you have a safe, bolt it to the floor with a bolt that is only accessible from inside the safe. Cut the bottom out of a cardboard box and put it over the safe to hide it.

    * If you have a an unused safe or lockbox, fill it with bricks, lock it, and put it in a conspicuous location.

    * If you have a second story, don't store a ladder in your yard or shed.

    * Trim any trees that can be climbed to reach a second story window, or make sure those windows are secure.

    * Use plants with thorns, such as roses, in front of your windows. Keep them trimmed below the window sill, so neighbors can see anyone breaking in.

    * Go through your wallet and purse. Do you really need to carry more than one credit card? Write down the account number and phone number for each card, so that you can cancel them quickly if they are stolen.

    * Make your possessions easy to identify. Paint the handles of your tools orange or lime green. Laser etch a custom design on the back of your phone or laptop.

    * Take photos of your valuable possessions, and record any serial numbers.

    * Scan any important documents, and save the images off site.

    1. Re:Security Checklist by John.Banister · · Score: 1

      Here's a couple of other thoughts:

      If you have a security system and put up a security system yard sign, put up one for a different manufacturer's security system, so it takes a little longer for them to figure out what to defeat.

      Don't put up a "Protected by Smith & Wesson" sign, as thieves often target those houses when they're empty, hoping to steal guns.

      If you store account numbers & phone numbers for cards, keep them in a password vault so that some ex-friend can't cancel your cards when they're pissed at you.

      Have it set up so that the cameras start recording to remote storage (The security system could start emailing clips to an email address hosted with unmetered storage and also broadcast to a local wireless battery powered recorder hidden somewhere.) when an alarm is triggered.

      Have a heat recovery ventilator or two on the ground floor, so you're less tempted to have (and then leave) a window open.

      Have a foyer between your outer door and your secure door. This way you can let people in out of the cold who you don't want to let into the rest of the house, and it's easy to slowly fill the foyer with something intolerably stinky (eg. anhydrous ammonia) if your alarm says someone is making a serious attempt to break in past the inner door. It also gives people who came to visit but can't get in someplace warm to wait while you come home. You could also have a "local calls only" phone in there so that someone who needs to borrow a phone doesn't need to come into your house to borrow it.

      A friend who spoke to a thief in prison told me that multi-point locks and an inflexible door frame are beneficial for doors that you want to be secure.

      You could also use Soss or Tectus hinges and make it difficult for a stranger to determine which way the door opens.

      If you're recording serial numbers, for devices that connect wirelessly, you could record Mac Address & IMEI numbers, since those can't be quickly scraped off.

      Help bolster world honeybee populations by keeping bees at home and put a DC solenoid under the hive that the security system can connect to AC power.

    2. Re:Security Checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't ever put a "beware of dog" or "vicious dog" sign on your property if you have a dog.

      Doing so, is an admission that you know your dog is dangerous. If the dog EVER nips or bites anyone, that admission can be used to prove liability and have the dog killed.

    3. Re:Security Checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GP's suggestions were low to zero cost. Yours are expensive and complex.

      I know someone who replaced all the windows in his house with bulletproof glass. Not to ward off bullets, but that you couldn't get in throwing bricks at the window and such. With solid door frames and even more solid doors and locks, almost anyone trying to get in would give up long before getting in. But that's overkill for the vast majority.

      For the home invasion stuff you seem so worried about, just put a gate at the property edge, and treat anyone inside the secure perimeter as violent home invaders.

    4. Re:Security Checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the best solution is to put up the sign, and don't have a dog. The sign is often more a deterrent than a dog.

    5. Re:Security Checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could see the "vicious dog" one being a problem, but maybe you put up the "beware of dog" one because you don't want anyone to be startled when a big friendly dog runs up and starts humping their leg?

    6. Re:Security Checklist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good post! +1
      Good lighing is definitely the cheapest and most effective way to boost your home security.
      Having a big mean dog is great (although not if you have kids) if you are concerned about someone actually getting in while you're at home. Just make sure you train it and teach it commands in another language. A dog that too overtrained will still 'sit' if a bad guy tells it to in an authorative voice.

  43. X10 fail by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    I was a big X10 user decades go. Did see a much higher than expected failure rate on the modules. But it stopped working for me as I added more and more surge protectors and UPSs to my home. And that is not saying that the transmitters or modules were on surge protection devices. Just having one or two on the same circuit seemed to be enough to damp out the signal, particularly if the xmitter and receiver were not on the same breaker (which pretty much meant they had to be in the same room for me).

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  44. Don't own anything worth stealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Material possessions are just stuff... I've managed to accumulate a fair bit of wealth, but feel no need to have a lot of stuff.

    Sure, my house is valuable, and it is insured. Nobody is going to steal that anyhow.

    My money is invested. When I do spend, it is for charitable causes I want to support, education, travel, and other experiences. No need to collect stuff.

    You can't take it with you...

    1. Re: Don't own anything worth stealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post is just cognitive dissonance: your valuable house is a material possession. Also, your post paints a bizarre image of you sleeping on a futon in a bare, echoing McMansion that is free of all the anchoring ties of material possessions.

  45. Home security systems are easy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My home security system consists of 6 very large dogs that can roam the entire fenced area around my home. If that doesn't work, I have an assortment of handguns, rifles, and shotguns that will stop any intruder.

  46. Get foscams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. Just get a few foscams with their IR systems. I have them watching all entrances and exits to the apartment. They send photos by emails whenever motion is detected in the defined grid.l and record the video. Wireless enabled, on a battery.

  47. Spare yourself - proportionate response! by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

    I wanted to get the fancy schlage remote control lock for our vacation home to be able to give friends a limited access code. So, I figured I needed an alarm system as well to make sure it was working, maybe a camera too... Then I took apart the schlage lock. You could bypass it with a little knife and maybe a dremel if you wanted to go all wild and crazy.

    The bottom line is that your security strategy needs to be proportionate to the risks. Reduce risk first, then make a solution that places your home at a competitive disadvantage compared to neighbors when someone is scouting the neighborhood.

    Nothing is really secure, and you will go mad trying to make it better. One example-- friend's home broken into, thieves took the dvr for the security system. Cops said it was standard procedure... ADT suggested remote recording for an additional fee...

  48. Piper and Canary on Indigogo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Piper - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/piper-smart-elegant-security-and-home-automation
    - pan/tilt camera
    - two-way audio
    - siren
    - temp, humidity, ambient light and sound sensors
    - zwave hub
    - web/iOS/Android
    - $240, shipping starts Jan 2014

    Canary - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/canary-the-first-smart-home-security-device-for-everyone
    - camera
    - microphone and speaker
    - siren
    - temp, humidity and air quality sensors
    - wifi
    - $200, shipping starts July 2014

  49. Best Home Security System by kurt555gs · · Score: 1

    Remington 870 pump. No annual or monthly fees. Easy to install next to bed. Close to 100% effective;

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    1. Re:Best Home Security System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remington 870 pump. No annual or monthly fees. Easy to install next to bed. Close to 100% effective;

      Douchebag...
      You fucking red-neck!

  50. Lifeshield by Gibby13 · · Score: 1

    Been using them for over 5 years, while they are $29.99/month there is no contract. Good web app and android app. They also used to have referral programs, you could choose X% off for you and every person you refer or after 5 referrals you get monitoring free for life, I only have 1 or 2 left to get it free for life. I don't use their camera's as I like my zoneminder setup better. While I wish it had some sort of hook/API for integrating into the rest of my HA, I would rather have the stability and assurance it provides. It runs over your internet connection and has a cellular backup that is currently free for life once you purchase that module. I did my whole house for $450. I like that it sends me a text message anytime there is a broadband outage. Also has other alerts, like AMBER, local crime, weather, ect.... I saw a youtube video that was posted last month that should some sort of integration with their cameras and directv, so you would see a popup on motion detected. I replace the sensor batteries about once a year, costs something like $13 for the batteries on ebay. The console and base batteries are pretty cheap too and I just replaced them yesterday. I searched for a long time for a better DIY system, there was nothing that was far along enough for me to persue. As I am now working on a NinjaBlock integration, I have been looking again, but nothing I have seen gives me the stability that you get from a normal security system.

  51. My home system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is my Glock, Mossberg 500 and good home insurance. Thorny rose bushes around the windows and my 3 dogs. Good locks on the doors and a disk encrypted system. Off site backups of everything important and a quality (hidden) floor safe. Oh, and I live in a decent neighborhood. I park my car in the garage nightly. I keep a local alarm company sign in my front yard (I found...cough... it in the yard of a foreclosed house I was working on). I have a 2nd degree black belt in Hapkido.

    I do this because by the time the police respond it will be too late.

  52. Hydra Control Freak. Completely unknown but... by onceuponatime · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I developed Hydra Control Freak as a result of a personal security problem I have involving a stalker. It's been evolving over a period of more than 6 years now but for 2-3 years it's been available in product form. I still have problems with the stalker (which is why I'm trying to keep my name out of the main stream a bit) which takes up far too much of my time but it has helped developed the product to be extremely effective.

    From a commercial perspective it's been a complete failure, as I don't have the financial resources to market it as product properly and I'm rubbish at marketing (I will be trying to present it from a more grass roots perspective this year targeted more for the self installer). From the perspective of it working as a security device it's extremely effective and it's very flexible. At my place I have a great many cameras and many different kinds of sensors, both wired and wireless. You only need to enter my property a couple of meters and I'm alerted by E-mail alerts, notification systems, wired rows of led lights that blink (One per sensor so I know instantly where people are), piezoelectric beepers and video displays that load up automatically, showing both live and looping event views. At night, the TV turns on automatically as I wired a Phidget to a universal remote control, it switches to the AVI channel and by using a simple javascript program that is subscribed to the websocket interface the HCF provides it dynamically loads the cameras and the looping event view. All I have to do is look at the tv and slam the panic button if it's a bad guy. The system allows you to link devices in the same way over the wan, so I also monitor some clients places via the same system. If someone comes onto their property, their system tells my system, my system loads up their cameras (Triggered by the websocket interface) and my panic button triggers their sirens etc.

    The Hydra Control Freak is built as a standalone device into a Sheeva plug. It's written in Java and runs on tomcat7, but I've made it a self contained, plug and play product and not a user hackable product (It supports remote software updates though). It supports the following devices:

    * Legacy X10 controller (Started with this)
    * rfxtrx433 home automation transceiver from rfxcom (Fantastic for Europe, not usable in the US)
    * Phidget I/O controllers, really useful for wired sensors and wired control, can add several of this to one device
    * Cameras (Reads MJPEG streams continuously so you have instant alerts with activity that happened prior to the trigger
    * http, both inputs and outputs to propagate events, interface to external systems such as iPhone alerting apps and to expand the
        monitoring over the WAN

    I tried to make this device so that it was simple to use. To this end I don't support a scripting language for programming it's behavior,
    rather I have a state machine/event engine with declarative configuration via web-based guis. However, this is also a failure. In the sense
    that it appears that this is not really simple for people, you have to be quite geeky to think well in terms of state transitions, although
    my most success has been with just non-tech users where I configure the system for them.

    The websocket interface is one of the most exciting features I've added recently. Using that and ajax and you can make pretty much any
    kind of dynamic display you like. The HTTP actions can pass over handles on the events to remote devices so that the websocket interfaces
    there no how to load up the cameras from the source in response to the events. By using HTTPS I can have a small window open on my machine inside the corporate network and my cameras loads up automatically instantly (In addition to the alerts).

    SSL hides the websocket
    protocol from the firewalls so that it works flawlessly

    If you want to know anything more about the product, you should contact me directly at this point. The website is not updating at this time as I consider how I restructure the sales approach. (tech development with updates is continuing however).

    Kim

    1. Re:Hydra Control Freak. Completely unknown but... by onceuponatime · · Score: 2

      Oh, and in the Netherlands where I live, I install these systems for people personally if anyone is interested.

  53. AlertMe by combinedeffort.com · · Score: 1

    OK, first caveat - this is a UK-based solution, so YMMV if using it abroad...

    https://www.alertme.com/how-we-do-it/products-and-services/smart-monitoring/

    Subscription is £5 per month ($8?). You have to buy a basic starter pack that contains several motion sensors and contact sensors. Comes with an internet-enabled hub that communicates with their servers to send alerts and receive instructions via their web interface. Also has a SIM and inbuilt battery for sending SMS alerts is the power / internet gets cut. You can also buy various extras such as a UK plugs that you can control via the web interface and therefore dictate when they have power.

    I've been using for about 5 years now and am reasonably happy with it.

    1. Re:AlertMe by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      There's a UK-based company that makes a REALLY cool product that, with some tweaking, could be WILDLY popular in the US -- SecurityBlinds Secur. Basically, it's a set of interior window bars camouflaged to look like working vertical blinds. The product they actually sell was apparently designed as a blast shield against bomb attacks, but if they reduced the "rugged" part down to just the strength needed to keep burglars out, and replaced the aluminum vanes with textured plastic shells in the usual colors that snapped over the steel rods like clamshells, they could sell them by the TRUCKLOAD through the special order department of stores like Home Depot or Lowes to Americans whose homeowners' associations won't allow burglar bars... but would have no way of knowing that there are actually hardcore burglar bars hidden inside the vertical blinds.

      Of course, a product like that would ALSO be perfect for anybody with a big cat (tiger, cougar, leopard, jaguar, lion, etc), because then you could let your tiger lounge in front of the living room window without having to worry about his safety if someone broke the glass & he jumped out through the open window. :-)

    2. Re:AlertMe by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      homeowners' associations won't allow burglar bars...

      I've never understood that particular piece of American insanity. Homeowner's Associations, that is. I've never heard of such a thing in British housing at all, and I'm not sure that it would be in the least bit legally enforceable, at least for detached / semi-detached dwellings on freehold. I can see some reasons for restrictions on what you can do to a property in a terrace, or in an apartment block, but as long as you've got the freehold, I'm not sure that there is anything that a "homeowner's association" can do to enforce their regulations on someone who moves into an area. And indeed, I'm not in the least bit sure that any such alleged regulations could be compelled onto a second purchaser. I certainly wouldn't accept any such restrictions on a property that I was going to buy (not that I see any reason to move, unless we leave Europe).

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  54. This works. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just get an Abbra system http://www.home-technology-store.com/home-security/ABBRA-KIT.aspx. You can either send alerts to yourself or some small money to a company like nextalarm http://info.nextalarm.com/. It works with phonelines, voip and GSM.

  55. Preventative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best security is preventative. Dont boast about your electronics, shut your blinders and lock the door when you leave the house. You can also move to a less crime infested area. You could also report to the police when you see a crime to help your surroundings.

  56. Zoneminder by Zedrick · · Score: 1

    Please don't even consider Zoneminder (unless you want to develop it). It's hopelessly outdated, has very limited support for modern surveillance cameras, and is more or less useless compared to commercial alternatives. Unfortunately - I really wish there was a good open source alternative

    You're better off buying Axis- or Sony-cameras and using their monitoring software.

    1. Re:Zoneminder by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      And it's still better than any of the utter crap sold as a "security DVR" out there.

      And better off buying Axis? Did he say he had $2500 just for the license for the software that goes on the PC? Axis is only for extremely rich people, their cameras are nearly 10X the cost of normal cameras and are simply re branded junk. We were an Axis dealer for years, I have seen inside all of their products.

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    2. Re:Zoneminder by Saac · · Score: 1

      We have been putting a lot of work into zoneminder lately to make it easier and to support more devices. You might want to take another look.

  57. Foscam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a set of Foscam DVR webcams, powered by IP Cam Pro on an old android phone.

    Works great. Motion detection sends me an email whenever any camera detects motion.

  58. loud party by nten · · Score: 1

    If your alarm is a very loud sound system playing an obnoxious song, the police might get called for free, no monitoring. Add another track over the song of people talking and perhaps vomiting noisily, and you are set. They won't show up as quickly as if an alarm had been tripped though, unless your neighbors are important.

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  59. What ever happened to... by multimediavt · · Score: 1

    A shotgun and a dog. Dogs are an organic, renewable resource and shotguns make that sound all criminals know to run from when you chamber a round. Plus, both work without batteries or AC power. If you're that worried about a break in while you're not home, maybe you live in a bad neighborhood and should move. Your insurance would most likely go down once out of the rough neighborhood. The dog would probably be happier, too.

    1. Re:What ever happened to... by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Dogs are quite efficiently switched off with a crowbar or sleeping pills in meat, and shotguns are more likely to be used against you, kill you b accident, or sit there in the cupboard while you're out. You are right though that there are other more important steps to be taken before worrying about any kind of alarm system.

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  60. Use a name brand purchased and programmed by hand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I install alarm for a living. 10 years now. You can buy a Honeywell Lynx touch or GE system with cellular and Wi-Fi/IP communicators and let it email you. They aren't expensive (sub 1000 depending on total points of protection) doors, PIRs, Windows, but you can also do supervisory monitoring as well. Water bugs to alert of standing water in basements, smoke and carbon for life safety. Even AC power failure and low temp alarms.

  61. What do you want to achieve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If you just want to tinker with a system for fun, have fun :) But if it is for real crime related purpose - what do you actually think to achieve with your system?

    .

    Reduced insurance rate is one thing you can get from an alarm, but then you'd need a professional service. You might think you have an ok from the insurance company by self-reporting a DIY alarm, but when the time comes for them to actually pay you money.. you highly likely don't.

    Do you want to prevent burglary? A DIY "be aware of the alarm" is usually laughed at, even if you think it looks "professional". A genuine alarm company sign can sometimes perhaps make a difference, that they go for the neighbor instead, but often it will not. Most people and burglars ignore the alarms (how often do you react when you hear a car/house/shop alarm?) and they are easily disabled quickly, and they know that many houses have a sign even if the service itself expired years ago.

    Do you want to alert the police? If they even allow it, be prepared to pay for false alarms (they will happen). But why do you want to alert the police, if they even bother with the alarm do you think they will be there in time to stop the thieves in action? Really? If you subscribe to a good security company service, sometimes they might get lucky and be there in time, but that is a very low probability scenario.

    Do you want to have camera evidence of the thieves so the police can find them, and maybe also your stuff at the same time? Many places police put very little effort into investigating crimes like this, but if they do - pictures might definitely help them. Then need really good low-light cameras, with immediate offsite storage. But, beside the satisfaction of perhaps catching the thieves, the chance of you recovering any stuff is slim.

    You could use to check on your new housemaid being honest, or have proof if something goes missing while you have workers in your house. Or check on your cats.

  62. Its called a dog by LeepII · · Score: 1

    I've owned big dogs my entire life, I have never had even an attempted break in despite living in some really rough neighborhoods. Any "security" system will just let you know some hoodie wearing punk broke in and stole your stuff. A good dog makes that never even happen.

    1. Re:Its called a dog by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I've owned big dogs my entire life, I have never had even an attempted break in despite living in some really rough neighborhoods. Any "security" system will just let you know some hoodie wearing punk broke in and stole your stuff. A good dog makes that never even happen.

      I had a paranoid stepfather before that had multiple guard dogs. Had an alarm system, too. Didn't stop someone from breaking in, stealing stuff and setting the house on fire.

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    2. Re:Its called a dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In retrospect, you still call him paranoid?

    3. Re:Its called a dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "setting the house on fire."

      What, did he expect the dogs to put out the fire themselves by pissing on it?

      No sprinkler systems? FAILURE.

    4. Re:Its called a dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A good dog makes that never even happen."

      Did you install lasers on their heads?

  63. Get a real one. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Honewell or other real security system purchased from a wholesaler then DIY install it. Alarm installers are not typically very smart, so most people can do what they do, BUT getting a real alarm system with the installation and programming documentation is the trick. Alarm companies try to keep that stuff hidden to protect their dealer network and try and force people to pay for alarm companies.

    Also to hide the fact that most do not set up the alarms correctly. I installed my own Honewell Lynx Touch system with the touchscreen, and every other one I have seen installed by "professionals" had the default codes still programmed in them so I could easily get in to disable the alarm.

    Do research, pick a popular alarm (Honeywell Lynx Touch L5100) and learn all you can about it before you buy even try to get the installer and programming documentation first. and when you do buy the alarm, be damned sure it is a NEW one that will have a default installer code so you can program it. Used alarms are garbage unless they will provide you with the installer code and 100% refund if the installer code is wrong.

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    1. Re: Get a real one. by cbowers · · Score: 1

      Maybe the wireless era brings a different breed of installer. But when I watched the guys put wired sensors in where I thought impossible, I found them to be freaking wizards. I'd also recommend the 2gig stuff to DIY'ers. The documentation is generally readily available, and I've even attended no cost online dealer/installer webinars from them.

  64. Recommendation - Elk M1 Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use an ELK M1 Gold, which not only serves as a cross-platform security system that lets me mix and match components according to need, but also does a good job of integrating various home automation technologies as well.

  65. $20 monthly fee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $20 a month is a good deal. My cable tv and internet costs me $100 a month. If you have a stable job, you should be able to afford spending at least $20 a month on a home security system.

  66. EnvisaLink from EyezOn by Corporate+Gadfly · · Score: 1

    Try an EnvisaLink 3 from EyezOn and hook it up to a compatible DSC or Honeywell (Ademco/Vista) system.

    Self-monitoring (via email/SMS) is free (aside from the upfront cost of EnvisLink and alarm system hardware). Central monitoring is available as well.

    Disclaimer: I have an EnvisaLink 3 hooked up to a Vista 20p (ADT Safewatch Pro) system monitored by a ULC alarm facility. ADT kept hiking up rates and wanted $30 per month after the initial system was "sold free". Ashamed to say that I paid a monthly fee for almost 5 years before switching to the EnvisaLink setup. You need to know (to a certain degree) how to program your alarm panel.

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    1. Re:EnvisaLink from EyezOn by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

      Yep, really a conventional panel is your best bet and Envisalink 3 is great. I would also recommend the Micasaverde Vera which has great integration with the Envislink 3 and lets you seamlessly combine your home automation and security systems. I use AutHomationHD with this combination and couldn't be happier, it looks like the system professionals (e.g. Cox Home Security) would give you.

      Probably set you back about $1k after buying everything + a bunch of sensors, but no monthly fees so you'd break even after like 2 years and then save like $30-$40 a month after that.

  67. Re:Canines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I would recommend to have a sign that reads "Dog on Premises" versus "Beware of Dog" or "Vicious Dog".

    The first is neutral language, and depending on where you are located, do not leave you hanging out to dry as much as the latter examples in the event of a dog bite. Some jurisdictions have strict liability regarding injuries resulting from animals, including civil penalties. Do your own research.

    Besides, the best home defense is the owner inside armed with a loaded, 12-gauge shotgun. Dogs can behave unpredictably when confronted with an intruder.

  68. Go for a hybrid solution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've tried everything over the years. Ultimately, for insurance purposes, you need independent third party monitoring and police notification. I have a mix of things; IP cameras from Axis, DVR cameras from Swann, GE Simon XTi for old-school security sensors and ZWave, and so on. I have found SafeMart (an online reseller who sells the hardware) to be an outstanding source. They also provide service through LiveWatch/Alarm.com at a very reasonable rate. I don't do streaming video through this service however, as I use EvoCam ($30) on my mac for all of my FMV monitoring. I can control my alarm as well as my home automation from my smart phone and I can view all of my cameras using IPCamPro (I think it is $5 or so). I don't like the fact that a third party monitoring service has access to my home security system (disarm, unlock, etc.), but in their infinite wisdom the insurance industry has decided this is safer.

  69. JUST POST A NOTE by Gim+Tom · · Score: 3, Funny

    Down here it is usually enough to just leave a sign on the door that says something like this.

    Hay Bubba, better wait on tha porch till I geet back. Jest run to the store for more ammo. I ain't fed the dogs yet and them are locked inside and hungry so u better stay on the porch.

    WOULD YOU WANT TO GO IN AFTER READING THAT?

    1. Re:JUST POST A NOTE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "WOULD YOU WANT TO GO IN AFTER READING THAT?"

      Depends on the derp. You've already stated the house is empty, and dogs aren't going to stop everyone, if the house has any at all, that is. Or are you suggesting the dogs are armed, too?

    2. Re:JUST POST A NOTE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The house is empty.

      Bubba either never showed up or went inside (and now the ravenous dogs aren't hungry any more).

      There are valuable guns inside and no ammo to make them dangerous.

      Let's go shopping!

  70. When last I checked, I don't have OCD by holophrastic · · Score: 2

    Did I leave the oven on?

    I'm becoming more and more disappointed in home security systems. And this just makes it worse. "smart" home monitoring systems seem to provide all of the features that security systems were designed to eliminate long ago.

    Did I leave the oven on?

    The whole purpose of an alarm system isn't to be able to monitor my own home.

    Did I leave the oven on?

    The purpose of an alarm system isn't to be able to check on my posessions, children, dog, or delivery man.

    Did I leave the oven on?

    The purpose of an alarm system, is for someone else to monitor my home.

    Did I leave the oven on?

    The purpose of an alarm system is specifically to NOT worry about my home when I'm away.

    Did you leave the oven on?

    Constantly caring (i.e. worrying) about my home when I'm away means that I'm not really away. That's always been considered an O.C.D. disorder -- not being able to let go and relax. I have an alarm system. If someone trips it, the monitoring company will call me. So long as the monitoring company doesn't call me, I'm happy on vacation. "Piece of mind" doesn't come from checking every ten minutes. It's comes from not checking at all.

    If you're going to build your own alarm system, make sure you put a sensor inside the oven.

    1. Re:When last I checked, I don't have OCD by russotto · · Score: 1

      Modern ovens turn off in a few hours anyway, so don't worry about it.

      Worry about the stovetop instead <evil grin>

    2. Re:When last I checked, I don't have OCD by holophrastic · · Score: 1

      Mine's induction. So I don't need to worry about it at all.

      Maybe the fireplace? Or the dryer? Probably the washing machine.

  71. my 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Had a break in because I left a window open and it's fairly obvious when I'm at work. Got a basic alarm with monitoring service, not great but it came with window warning stickers. I don't have 100% coverage of the living space, but good enough that it's likely to trip if there's a break in. I sometimes think I should add more sensors, but I think the stickers are really the best feature.

    The alarm system uses the Internet for primary communications with cellular backup. Make sure you have a belt and suspenders monitoring solution.

  72. Monitoring company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I used to dispatch for an independent (UL Listed) monitoring company back in college. We had contracts with many alarm installers, and allowed them to re-brand our monitoring services at their own. Their customers were paying $30+ dollars a month to them, and we were charging the installers half that. If you can find a dispatch center in your area, many offer monitoring directly at a reduced rate.

  73. Do it yourself with a conventional system. by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

    The alarm system industry is sort of this mystical cabal that tries to keep everything secret so you can't do your own system, but it's not so hard. The good thing about using a conventional alarm is they are tried and true and the sensors are cheaper than e.g. Z-Wave or other custom systems.

    I recommend DSC, the PC1832 (or larger) system is great. You can go wireless easily, though like anything wires are better but they're much harder to deploy around a house unless you're pre-wired. I went _all_ wireless.

    Buy the panel and wireless bridge and all the door plungers, window sensors, motion sensors, etc... you need. You can also get things like flood sensors and glass break sensors, smoke alarms, etc... There are instructions online for how to set it up, it's not so hard.

    Then buy a MicasaVerde Vera. You can connect it to the DSC with a little card called an Envisalink. This puts your DSC system online. Unless you have a hardened bunch of TV burglars out to steal the mona lisa from your house this probably isn't a big deal, but you should put some time into securing your home network for sure.

    Between the DSC, Envislink, and the Vera your options are endless for home automation. I use an _awesome_ and free app called AuthomationHd that lets me view cameras, all my Z-wave automation, and every alarm sensor from my tablet. I can arm/disarm locally/remotely, etc.. Tons of other options in that space too.

  74. re: Remington by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, works only when there is somebody at home :(

  75. depends on what do you really expect from an alarm by nik_qc · · Score: 2

    I totally agree with those who say that the traditional alarm systems are primarily for the insurance companies. Lower quotes and simpler claims.

    I have a good alarm system. Of course installed by an alarm company and, of course, hugely overpriced, even while I believe I had a decent deal on it. And it is certified etc. And it is a wireless one (100% cellular). And I did put enough stickers and labels to make sure the potential intruders understand that. The primary purpose of the alarm system is to scare off the regular bulgars, the amateurs who hope to steal something - whatever they can find. I do not poses any real valuables so I doubt it would be interesting for more professional thieves to visit me. For others - I want them to know that there will be noise when they break in and there is no line to cut so the police will be alerted. Yes, the noise will probably stop once they destroy the siren, but it takes only few seconds for the alarm system to send the signal over cellular network and it is impossible to find it that quickly to disable. Again, for an ordinary bulgar, not someone who is targeting that home specifically. And once the signal is sent there is a chance that if the police crew is eating doughnuts nearby they actually may be there in few minutes.

    Now about the DIY system. I am playing with home automation, Insteon etc. It is one of my pet projects to create a "smarter home" that would also go further in terms of protecting itself. By no means I am planning to replace the "certified" system - because of the insurance. I would like to put more motion sensors and cameras outside to have a kind of "early detection". I want to make sure that whoever approaches the house is aware that he has been detected, watched, filmed and someone may be alerted about his presence. This may discourage many people. Same for the "away from home" mode. I have enough smart light switches at home to set up a scene that will turn the lights on and off in such a pattern that one might think there is someone at home while we may be away - at least unless they spend enough time on surveillance.

    I think the ideal system is the one that would alert me over my mobile phone ASAP, even before someone breaks into the house. So I can look at the external and/or internal cameras and see what is going on around the house. After that it is up to me to act. I can call the police. I can call my neighbour to look outside and call the police. I can remotely turn on the lights and even trigger the real alarm if needed.

  76. No Landline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the parent..."If you have a landline, you can hook it up to this panel and have it call your monitoring-company-of-choice when an event trips. If you don't, you can get wireless addons which call them via cell-phone."

    Uverse, Comcast, Ooma, MagicJack, etc. all use VOIP. Instead of installing a new system, I converted my landline based system into something that can be used over an Internet connection using a NextAlarm Broadband Adapter:

    http://info.nextalarm.com/help/abn-install

    Since my alarm system was hooked into a now dead copper pair nowhere near the access point, I also used a wireless bridge. NextAlarm monitors for $17.99 a month, or you can monitor your own for $9.99. It sure beat the hell out of Guardian who wanted over $50 per month.

  77. Ditto by chienandalou · · Score: 1

    I installed a Simplisafe system three months ago and am quite happy so far.

    At some point I'll have to replace a bunch of batteries, but I'll take that as a trade over putting in a lot of wiring. Some of the screws to attach sensors to walls are a bit small (I would avoid the double-sided tape). But that's it for nits to pick. The basic design and engineering are really good. Instalation and setup were easy.

    I have the $20/month monitoring that includes e-mail alerts. The monitoring works.

    It satisfied the home insurance folks.

    It communicates with the monitoring service by cellphone, which is more robust and secure than landline or internet, and has a battery backup -- when I'm away, I find out about power blackouts because it sends me a little e-mail whenever the power goes out.

  78. Sam c5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a system called Sam c5. It sends texts to my phone and has no monitoring fee. I only pay 3 pennies if the alarm goes off, and that never happens.

  79. Cato... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk_2-ib3ENc

  80. As good a place as any to say it by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    ALL that matters is if the monitoring company is licensed in your state (most states requires this in the US), and UL Rated. If it is UL approved service, you have the proper permits, etc then you will have ZERO problem with claims. If your insurance company bitches, take them to the state insurance board in your state, they'll cry uncle in approximately 5 seconds flat.

    Here are some other things to know. UL Rated monitoring should cost NO MORE THAN $9.00 a month, if you pay more you're getting gouged. NEVER EVER EVER IN A BILLION YEARS sign up with people like ADT where you'll pay some ludicrous fee like $45 a month, plus a land line, plus MORE if you want to use wireless. Don't EVER sign a contract, you can get $9.00 UL monitoring on a pay-as-you-go basis.

    The big firms will try to 'give you' all sorts of 'free' equipment to induce you to their overpriced service, its not worth it. ADT might give you $1500 worth of stuff, but they'll lock you into an expensive 3 year contract, and there WILL be hidden fees, little extra things you won't get that you need, etc, so by the time your done the cost will be very significant AND you're still overcharged.

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    "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
  81. Get a Rotweiler by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    Very simple, very cheap, no false alarms, and unless you're home invaded by murderous thugs it WILL be effective. Even you ARE home invaded by murderous thugs it will still probably pay off! Everywhere I've lived when I've talked to any law enforcement about home security that's their advice, get a rotweiler, they really do work. They're also a lot cheaper to feed than a kodiak, and probably legal pretty much anywhere.

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    "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
  82. Modern IP Surveilkance... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modern IP surveillance systems can use cameras for facial recognition, motion detection, etc.

    You can have a camera recognize that there is a face, and then see if it is Your face. If it's not Your face, it will send You a text message (by eMail.)

    These systems can also read inputs from home alarm systems, so when the front door opens, it can send You a message.

    These systems can also output to a home alarm system, so if you need to use XYZ alarm for some reason, You can wire into that.

    Of course, a criminal will look to damage the alarm systems / camera system, so You (have to put up with the crooked companies that deal with the NSA and) upload the data in real time to a cloud server.

    One word of advice: EVERY camera should be enclosed in a metal box, with only the lens showing. I have had too many other cameras destroyed. EVERY part of the system (especially cables) must be secured against someone with physical access to that room who wants to destroy it.

  83. Interior siren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great list of ideas!
    I installed a few *LOUD* sirens inside my house. If they go off, nobody will stay inside - much too loud!
    Look up ELK-45 or ELK-SS36.
    One in the heater return-air duct. One behind the refrigerator. One in crawlspace under house.
    Forget about police monitoring. When these sound, no burglar can stay in the house without covering his ears.

    12 volts from your alarm panel is enough to drive 'em.

  84. kmotion by ct_zero_interupt · · Score: 0

    I've been using kmotion http://code.google.com/p/kmotion2/downloads/list, built on the motion package. but the author has found real work and work seems to have stopped on version 3.

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    Mal's Content http://malcontent.malcolmcampbell.org
  85. DIY by nzjade · · Score: 1

    All the 'off-the-shelf' individual components are there to put together a very sophisticated DIY security system that would surprise security experts ... it's how you align their interaction. The more creative the better it can be ... think about.

  86. My DIY solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My house has an existing alarm system that must be 10 or 15 years old. It's not flashy - it just monitors each zone and sounds an internal and external alarm/strobe when tripped. The alarm system is not monitored by any alarm company.

    After being burgled early last year, I decided the alarm needed to be monitored, but I wasn't going to pony up a monthly subscription (and likely a whole new panel) for the privilege. Instead I wired up the strobe light output to an optocoupler and an Arduino (the strobe is still connected). The Arduino is then connected to my server PC, which monitors the serial port. When the alarm is tripped, the strobe goes on, the Arduino sees the input change, and sends a message to the PC, which in turn emails me.

    I recently added SMS notification with a cheap, pre-paid Blackberry looking mobile phone knockoff by ZTE (in the event the internet or email server is down). It has a USB diagnostic/debugging serial port available, which uses standard AT commands. Now if the alarm is tripped an SMS is sent using a command line tool called SendSMS. The cost for the phone credit is $30 for 6 months, or $5 a month.

    All of this is linked together with a little application I wrote that monitors the serial port, and some batch files.