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Pirate Bay Founder's Custody Extended to February 5th
The Pirate Bay co-founder Warg has been held in solitary confinement since being turned over by Sweden to Denmark in December. Yesterday, he appeared in a closed court session where the judge ordered he continue to be held until at least February 5th. From the article: "In an attempt to free the Swede, or at least improve his circumstances, a petition was launched recently, directed at the Danish Prime Minister. Initially there were only a few hundred backers but when a banner was added to the homepage of The Pirate Bay this quickly grew to more than 50,000. Among other things, the petition demands that Gottfrid is given free access to books and other reading material."
Although kept from computers and books, he is at least no longer being held in solitary confinement as of last week.
Captured Al-Qaida operatives probably look at him and go "Whew, I'm glad I'm not THAT guy!"
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
You absolutely need to keep him from books. Good God, the man could copy/steal Pride and Prejudice and post it to a website! Or he could read the Daily Telegraph and learn how poorly Manchester United is doing.
For the love of Pete. Has this American sickness infected everyone?
Hoist Number One and Number Six.
I can't believe this is what our "FREE" world does to some of its brightest minds. Money Money Money .... humanity can be so much better through the pursuit of knowledge - sharing freely and openly - collaborating together to make an open source world - where everyone can freely share - where rather than compete against each other - we help one another. So long as the "almighty buck" and so called greedy corporations control our world - there is no hope.
There is more of us than of them - yet our lives - our laws and everything else is controlled by so very few in govt and ceo's that are supposed to represent what we (the people) want through representational govt that is a farce.
How petty - how infantile and how ridiculous we have come, tsk tsk. The next step for human societal evolution is to rid the world of the greed that kills human spirit. I hope the Aaron Schwartz's/snowdens/manning and other bright minds we have with the right attitude - the right heart to share in the spirit of humanity and to succeed to remove this evil cancer holding back humanity.
My sympathies go out to all these warriors out there and their families, I wish I had half the balls you do to go against the "system" and do the right thing by people and by society.
The books thing seems a bit harsh.
PS: If you locked me away without books for 3 months, I'd probably come out of it as a supervillian, bent on wreaking vengeance on society. I'm just saying.
Maybe after the EU human rights court gets done listening to Snowden they can take a look inwards at their own terrible examples of not respecting human rights.
Puting a guy in solitary because he ran a file sharing website? God in Wisconsin you can drive drunk and your first offence is just a traffic ticket. You can kill people driving drunk, I don't understand why we punish guys who threaten profits more than guys who threaten lives.
So he gets the same treatment as mass murderers? Clearly the copyright barons have 1) swung the pendulum to have copyright last far longer than is reasonable (20 years, 1 generation, is reasonable, forever is what we have now), and 2) they have corrupted anyone they deal with into 'going along' with their 'forever copyright, infinite profits, infinite fines and jail' mentality.
sweden: ok Denmark here ya go. Finland, tell Denmark This hooligan is wanted for pirating everything from independence day to terminator.
finnish translator relays information
Denmark: Jesus Christ this guys the Terminator and hes trying to destroy our independence?!
Finnish translator:....perkele.....
Good people go to bed earlier.
If you and a mate steals a couple of bicycles, only you get nicked and don't rat on the mate immediately then it's solitary for you pal.
Standard practice in Denmark and it's a fucking disgrace. Amnesty International have been all over this for years but without any results. Makes us look like a bunch of savages.
TCAP-Abort
Gottfried is charged for hacking the largest financial service in northern Europe. He claims being a victim of malware on his personal pc.
Generally speaking the Scandinavian countries has one of the most fair justice systems in the world.
That really depends on who's pulling the strings.
i've been locked up...sometimes without books or tv.
it sucks...bad.
i wonder if this little stay is going to change Warg's attitude about continuing TPB...there is no doubt that this is what the Sweden legal system is trying to impress on him.
I'll bet if nothing else, it's going to make him find somewhere in the world to live where he won't have to worry about this happening to him again.
never bring a twinkie to a food fight.
Among other things, the petition demands that Gottfrid is given free access to books and other reading material.
They oughtta also put a DVD player and a Red Box kiosk in his cell.
According the the petition link in the summary ( I know it's a lot to ask that you read it ), these accusations were dropped. And he isn't charged with anything currently.
Generally speaking the Scandinavian countries has one of the most fair justice systems in the world.
That may have been the case several decades ago. That is defiantly no longer the case, especially in Swedens case - they have fallen far and fast.
Solitary Confinement is the sort of thing that should only be used for the following reasons:
- The inmate is dangerous to both other inmates and to the prison staff
- The inmate is guilty of crimes that call for very harsh punitive measures, but execution is not an option
- The inmate is being punished for rules infractions in prison (in which case solitary should be used for a limited time).
You need to have solitary confinement as an option to punish an inmate, otherwise the inmate may become uncontrolable. If your in prison and have no chance to ever be released, then why not stab that annoying cellmate / guard? They cannot keep you locked up for 2 life times. Solitary is the 'things can still get worse' measure.
The guy who created pirate bay is guilty of copyright infringement. I am going to assume he is not a threat to himself or others. So what basis is there for dropping him in solitary confinement?
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>Generally speaking the Scandinavian countries has one of the most fair justice systems in the world.
I'm sorry, but what danger does being able to read a book pose again? Don't sit there can call it fair when they're pulling stunts like this.
The justice systems are very fair especially in Denmark (Sweden has a few quirks). The prisons conditions are also generally very good. The problem is the lack of enough prisons, which means that if you need to be locked up on the spot, you get the cells that are availble, which often are the otherwise unused solitary cells.
Remember the mass-murderer Norway? There is a campaign that is comparing his treatment with that of anakata
It doesn't look too well.
Gottfried is charged for hacking the largest financial service in northern Europe. He claims being a victim of malware on his personal pc.
That's the problem with pirating software.
The Pirate Bay co-founder Warg...
Is his name just "Warg," or this just a badly written summary?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
I posted this the last time this topic arose. Whereas Warg has not yet faced trial (thus guilt in doubt), convicted war criminal Albert Speer had access to books (and was allowed to write) after being convicted. Fascinating difference in treatment.
Some other interesting rhymes with g00gle are toogle, smoogle, coogle, or kugle, boogle doogle, zoogle, stoogle, poogle, gloogle, shoogle, and I like this one; shtoogle. Maybe you can come up with more.. I'm exhausted thinking about all the possibilities..
Not in Sweden, they don't. Their hippie health care and education system is counterbalanced by a positively medieval justice system. Suspects are held incommunicado, without rights or legal representation.
Got to be tough on crime! hard to deter those former east-block criminals...
I'm amazed at the lengths we will go to torture people and not even think about it. This is torture. I'm willing to bet he is mentally damaged now and will be for the rest of his life. All for running a website that some people disagreed with. Humanity can be quite disgusting.
It's "defying" whom? Or did you mean 'definitely' when typing 'defiantly'?
Rape someone, and we'll slap your hand. Violate an IT law and we will treat you like the gravest danger the world has seen.
Ok, let me get this straight, he has been deprived of both Christmas AND New Years? ghastly!!!