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New Class of "Hypervelocity Stars" Discovered Escaping the Galaxy

Science_afficionado writes "Astronomers have discovered a surprising new class of 'hypervelocity stars' that are moving at more than a million miles per hour, fast enough to escape the gravitational grasp of the Milky Way galaxy. The 20 hyper stars are about the same size as the sun and, other than their extreme speed, have the same composition as the stars in the galactic disk. The big surprise is that they don't seem to come from the galaxy's center. The generally accepted mechanism for producing hypervelocity stars relies on the extreme gravitational field of the supermassive black hole that resides in the galaxy's core."

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  1. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe those starts just didn't like the neighbourhood they were in and decided to move house.

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  2. Friederich Pohl was right all along... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    This is obviously 'Wan-to' up to his old tricks again.

  3. Assuming ... by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Assuming the observation gets studied and confirmed, this is probably far more common than one might initially expect.

    The Milky Way has been on the move billions of years and occasionally meets up with star clusters or even dwarf galaxies.

    Many of them probably settle in gravitationally, but some of them aren't going to and continue, largely, about their merry way if the relative speeds are right.

    These stars could have been "acquired" 400 million years ago and it can take a long time to traverse a cross-segment of the Milky Way. And these stars would have to be smaller like our sun to have the right lifespan, and we wouldn't notice the really small ones (red dwarfs and such) because they would be hard to see so there is also a mix of observational factors in the equation.

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    1. Re:Assuming ... by bob_super · · Score: 2

      Beat me to the hypothesis. Just because a star is in the milky way doesn't mean that it was formed there. It may just be passing by, with its doors locked and hoping to look inconspicuous because it's got a similar composition as the local hot hooligans (how likely is that? that's not specified in TFS)

  4. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by icebike · · Score: 5, Informative

    A million miles per hour is not all that much.

    All the galaxies in our neighborhood are also rushing at a speed of nearly 1,000 kilometers per second (2,236.936 miles per hour) towards a structure called the Great Attractor, a region of space roughly 150 million light-years away.

    In addition, our solar system--Earth and all--whirls around the center of our galaxy at some 220 kilometers per second, or 490,000 miles per hour.

    The earth is moving toward the Constellation Leo at the dizzying speed of 390 kilometers per second. (872,405 miles per hour).

    Lots stuff going places fast.

    Now if you find an inhabitable planet orbiting one of these stars let me know. That would be the mothership of all motherships.

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  5. Not the only supermassive black hole... by Rick+in+China · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looking at the trajectories, wouldn't it be a possibility that these stars didn't originate in our galaxy, but rather, could have been tourists flung out in a similar fashion from another supermassive black hole outside of our own galaxy? Just passing through on various trajectories, from potentially various other galaxies. Not much thought put into this - maybe the distance from the nearest supermassive black hole outside of our own galaxy makes this an impossibility, but seems the article doesn't go into any theories at all.

  6. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by meerling · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not the Puppeteer Homefleet, they aren't flying in formation.

    (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up author Larry Niven.)

  7. This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aren't all objects' movement (speed) based on another objects movement (speed)? I mean, how fast is the Milky Way moving, and in what direction? And could that star just be sitting idle-ish, and our galaxy zipping past it? Are these question answerable?

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    1. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by Uecker · · Score: 5, Informative

      If one considers the rest frame of the microwave background as the rest frame of the universe, then yes, one can answer these questions.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background

    2. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 2

      You're missing the point. These are stars moving at at abnormal speeds and can't be explained by any phenomenon we have observed before.

    3. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by camperdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You're missing the point. These are stars moving at at abnormal speeds and can't be explained by any phenomenon we have observed before.

      Every gravity simulation I've ever run has had a few objects flung off at high speed. It doesn't take a lot.

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    4. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by Metabolife · · Score: 3, Funny

      A wrecking ball.

    5. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are plenty of stars in the galaxy that would make our star look like a rock next to jupiter.

    6. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by KliX · · Score: 3, Informative

      'Relative' is the key. There is no fixed background to say 'This is going absolutely this fast', any observation point in any kind of motion is as viable as any other. It just falls out of a little bit of simple vector maths - so no, your question is not answerable, as it's malformed.

    7. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by Uecker · · Score: 5, Informative

      Due to the Doppler effect, you see the frequency shift if you move relative to the microwave background, which would otherwise be (almost) the same blackbody radiation of temperature 2.725 K from all direction.

    8. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by idji · · Score: 3, Informative

      This speed is still very fast if it is taken relative to us or to the galactic center. The galaxy's speed relative to the cluster plays no role at these sizes and time scales. "sitting idle-ish and the galaxy zipping past" is the classic Relativity - it makes no difference - both are identical. In either case something caused that Star's velocity relative to us to by very different.

    9. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by Katatsumuri · · Score: 2

      Exactly. See also my post above about 3-body chaotic gravity assist.

    10. Re:This makes me think more about the word "Speed" by fatphil · · Score: 2

      I recommenda 4th/5th-order Runge-Kutta extrapolation. It's so stable, I managed to model satelites which would move a quarter of an orbit per time step and not fly off to infinity. Simple 1st/2nd order extrapolation doesn't cut it - you'll end up with two things exceptionally close one tick, and then zipping away unimaginably quickly the next tick.

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  8. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by SJHillman · · Score: 2

    "1,000 kilometers per second (2,236.936 miles per hour)"

    Either kilometers are a lot shorter than I remember, or you got your periods and commas mixed up somewhere.

  9. Re:There goes the Big Bang Theory by Scarletdown · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never believed in it, anyway.

    You probably don't believe in Monk, Night Court, or All In the Family either.

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  10. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now if you find an inhabitable planet orbiting one of these stars let me know. That would be the mothership of all motherships.

    Or really bad luck. Leaving the galactic plane would pretty much assure your species would never branch out beyond your own solar system.

  11. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by icebike · · Score: 2

    Should have been all commas. Doh.
    At least for those of us on this side of the pond.

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  12. Re:slingsot by tftp · · Score: 2

    Maybe two super-massive black holes passed close to each other and spun these off?

    Perhaps. But now instead of explaining why one common star is moving somewhere fast you need to explain why two uncommon black holes are moving somewhere fast, and on top of that why they nearly hit each other and some common star...

  13. I guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    the radio waves with Fox News started reaching them.

  14. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everybody sing!

    Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
    And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
    That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
    A sun that is the source of all our power.
    The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
    Are moving at a million miles a day
    In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
    Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.
    Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
    It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
    It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
    But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
    We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
    We go 'round every two hundred million years,
    And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
    In this amazing and expanding universe.

    The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
    In all of the directions it can whizz
    As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
    Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
    So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
    How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
    And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
    'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

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  15. Re:The Puppeteers Are Leaving! by rossdee · · Score: 2

    Moving the Ringworld is not the problem, getting the star to go along with it might be though.

  16. Next assignment by symbolset · · Score: 2

    From the ratio of stars being ejected, get the average rate of galaxy evaporation. Calculate backward to compute original mass of the milky way.

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  17. It's obvious by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    These stars were ejected by the polar vortex.

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  18. Re:interesting by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nah, I'm not speculating on where they got their energy at all.

    Just pointing out that "million miles per hour" is not unusual in this universe, and therefore escape velocity is not that hard to achieve.
    All it would take is galaxies spinning at different angles passing each other to spit off a few stars from the fringe edge. In fact the edge is probably ragged precisely because stars are occasionally spun off, like the outside skater roller derby.

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  19. Re:Evidence of Intelligent Life by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

    It's evidence Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked them out of HIS galaxy.

  20. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those are cool lyrics.. did you write that yourself?
    Don't be an Apple...

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  21. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Maow · · Score: 4, Informative

    A million miles per hour is not all that much.

    All the galaxies in our neighborhood are also rushing at a speed of nearly 1,000 kilometers per second (2,236.936 miles per hour) towards a structure called the Great Attractor, a region of space roughly 150 million light-years away.

    I think they're calling them fast based on the relative speed to the galaxy that they're being ejected from / passing though.

    Astrophysicists calculate that a star must get a million-plus mile-per-hour kick relative to the motion of the galaxy to reach escape velocity.

    The diagram in TFA seems to indicate that these stars are not originating inside the galaxy, which to me raises the question, from whence do they come?

    This image makes it appear the stars are mostly passing through the disk of the galaxy. I may be reading too much into the length of the coloured lines though.

  22. Somebody stop them! by locopuyo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Somebody stop them!

  23. Re:What's pulling/pushing the stars ? by znanue · · Score: 4, Informative

    Due to inertia, the stars would continue to travel at their current speeds if nothing were pushing and pulling on them. As it is, whatever gravitational forces are acting upon them at the moment might be comparatively insignificant to their current inertia.

    So how did they get their current inertia? They might have gotten it from the supermassive black hole at the galaxy's core without setting their vector towards the core. They could do so possibly using a gravity slingshot effect. So it is surprising they're not coming from the core, as the article states. So what is interesting about these stars is they don't seem to be explained by the slingshot effect.

    Further, gravity is a force of attraction and so does no pushing.

    Also, I did a knapkin calculation of the speeds involved and it would be 1/700th the speed of light except the article says that this speed is relative to the movement of the galaxy and not an absolute speed like the slashdot summary intimates.

  24. 3-body chaotic gravity assist by Katatsumuri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the theories for the origin of these hypervelocity stars is 3-body chaotic gravity assist. When two bodies are entering a gravity assist trajectory around a third, very massive body, their interactions sometimes add up in such a way that one body falls into a tight orbit, and another is ejected at a hypervelocity. Given the number of ternary star systems in the galaxy, this looks like a plausible explanation.

    There is even a paper suggesting we could build an interstellar starship from two asteroids (PDF, 10 pages) using this mechanism. It was written by Josef L Breeden and presented at the 100 Year Starship conference.

  25. Re:What's pulling/pushing the stars ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is no such thing as "absolute speed"; all movement is relative to other objects in the universe.

  26. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Rotaluclac · · Score: 2

    Or really bad luck. Leaving the galactic plane would pretty much assure your species would never branch out beyond your own solar system.

    But the view of the Milky Way would be gorgeous!

  27. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They are likely wandering stars from another galaxy. Wasn't it estimated that we already had one galaxy pass through the Milky Way and sometime in the future we may pass through Andromeda?

    So perhaps there are three mechanisms for high speed stars;
    1) ejected by a super massive black hole.
    2) remnant of non-colliding stars from Galactic collisions (and actually, most stars don't hit each other in these situations).
    3) L3 advanced civilization finding that solar tourism is more fun if you can take all your stuff with you.

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  28. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    yea, but they are headed in the wrong direction, and are moving REALLY slow. If we saw stars moving around at a few percent the speed of light, then maybe. But a million miles per hour? That's 0.0014% the speed of light. Our closest neighbor is 25.8 trillion miles away. So it would take them nearly 3 thousand years just to get there. Not much of a mother ship.

  29. Re:Maybe they're not stars.... by Maritz · · Score: 2

    A few interesting thoughts on that idea here. Put a lampshade on your star basically.

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