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Edward Snowden Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

SmartAboutThings writes "Edward Snowden has a chance of getting the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize, as two Norwegian members of the Parliament have nominated him — Baard Vegard Solhjell (a former environment minister) and Snorre Valen. So, the fact that members of the Norwegian Parliament have proposed him for the Nobel Peace Prize could improve his chance of winning. After all, if Obama got this prize, why wouldn't Snowden get it?"

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  1. Alternative Nomination by FranklinWebber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd like to nominate Dr. Thomas Neff (http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/01/29/0157208/megatons-to-megawatts-program-comes-to-a-close) as more deserving.

    1. Re:Alternative Nomination by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      AMEN! Unfortunately, if Obama can get one, any turncoat-calling-himself-whistleblower can get one, too.
      It's sad.

      Highly unlikely; only people with political influence get them. Obama got one for not being Bush; Snowden can likely get one for not being the NSA.

    2. Re:Alternative Nomination by MachineShedFred · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's pretty sad when you can get a Nobel Prize for not doing / being things. I wonder if someone could get a Nobel Prize in physics for converting the mechanical energy harvested from Alfred Nobel oscillating in his grave into the ultimate in renewable energy...

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    3. Re:Alternative Nomination by macromorgan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure Nobel would be turning too much. His whole goal of the Nobel prize was so people wouldn't look at his legacy harshly considering he invented dynamite (at the time what could be considered a terrible weapon of war). Instead of associating his name with death and destruction, we associate him with great feats in science or humanitarian work. Looks like he got exactly what he wanted.

  2. Great news! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a HELL of a lot better than when Obama got the prize, just for being elected. An unknown nobody who had run a successful campaign got a peace prize just for moving into the White House? Totally bogus.

    Maybe the committee has decided that they would like to have some credibility.

    I'm all for Snowden getting the prize. To bad it has been cheapened with some of the past awards.

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    1. Re:Great news! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obama got it because tbey wanted to slap George Bush in the face. He should have declined because that is beneath the presidency to participate in such an exercise.

      Although this case may also be seen as a slap at the president, at least Snowden wpuld arguably deserve it, if you approve of him.

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    2. Re:Great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe the committee has decided that they would like to have some credibility.

      The Nobel Peace Prize has LONG been without credibility; it's always been a tool to push some sort of agenda.

      2012 - The European Union? You mean the group that shouted how we should stop Ghadafi from defeating the rebels in Libya, dragged the US into a response and then backed off leaving the US the sole owner of a military intervention they didn't want? Especially after forming deals with Ghadafi that had lessened his grip and got him to give up nuclear programs and chemical weapons? Yeah, that turned out well.

      2009 - Barack Obama - all based on promises and rhetoric and no action... sure.

      2007 - Al Gore for promoting environmental awareness? That's kind of the wrong category.

      1994 - Yasser Arafat? He's done a lot to promote peace in the world.

      1973 - Henry Kissinger and Le Duc Tho for the Paris Peace Accords - I'm sure the South Vietnamese really appreciated Le Duc Tho's peaceful process when he invaded and annexed their country.

      And where is Mahatma Ghandi? Where is Pope John Paul II? The Nobel Peace Price ceased being about "Peace" long ago and has simply been a tool to highlight the political agenda of a few Norwegian scientists.

    3. Re:Great news! by Antipater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm all for Snowden getting the prize. To bad it has been cheapened with some of the past awards.

      I'm not. I think giving it to Snowden would serve only as a repudiation of Obama's prize, and not as an actual reward for promoting peace. It would only cheapen the award further.

      It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Privacy Prize or the Nobel Stand-Up-To-Authority Prize. What Snowden did was good and needed and courageous, but it wasn't related to Peace or to saving lives. In fact, it's actually inflamed diplomatic tensions. How about giving it to that doctor in Africa who didn't get it in 2013, or the megatons-to-megawatts guy suggested above?

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    4. Re:Great news! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And, you don't think that exposing an all-seeing police state has any bearing on peace?

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    5. Re:Great news! by kheldan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod idea up. Snowden may have opened a gigantic, planet-sized can of worms, but it was a festering, nasty-ass can of worms that needed opening. The one spark of non-cynicism that remains alive within me cheers on people like Snowden, and gives me hope that the human race can be saved from a descent into global fascism.

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    6. Re:Great news! by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obama got it because tbey wanted to slap George Bush in the face. He should have declined because that is beneath the presidency to participate in such an exercise.

      Although this case may also be seen as a slap at the president, at least Snowden wpuld arguably deserve it, if you approve of him.

      The Nobel Peace Prize was originally established by someone who had created what he considered a horrible weapon of war to honor and encourage people who had worked to promote and enable world peace.

      Not for not being George W Bush, not even for uncovering a lot of contra-democratic practices. It is, after all, not a "democracy" prize. And by that standard Yasser Arafat actually is more entitled to it than either Obama or Snowden. Not by much, since while dealing peace with one hand, he still had the other under the table dealing war, as we later discovered, but at least to some degree.

      As to whether Obama should have turned it down specifically because it was awarded to slap GWB in the face, I'm not certain I'd go that far. We already knew that US Presidents cannot be looked to as exemplars of virtue.

      On the other hand, he really should have refused it for the simple reason that he hadn't done anything specifically to promote peace at the time. And that was before the drones.

    7. Re:Great news! by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, I actually don't. I think exposing an all-seeing police state has great implications for the rights of that state's citizens, but has very little bearing on life vs. death.

      Let me make the connections for you. Government surveillance and data collection does two things (among many others), depending on whether it's publicly known or not.

      If the government is running public surveillance and effectively acting like a police state (think the TSA), it convinces many people of a supposed necessity for "security" against some "unseen enemy." It's very easy to turn that fear against some random foreign nation, even when the connection in tenuous -- e.g., the Iraq war. The continuous feeling of "unease" that many Americans have by being continuously bombarded with messages like "You need to take your shoes and belt off and d the 'special pose' for the nudey scanners, or you could DIE even on a plane from terrorists" is that there are enemies out there, and the government needs to protect you, probably including military actions. (And imagine if "weapons of mass destruction" might be involved! See Iraq above ramp up to try to create a conflict with Iran in recent U.S. politics.) Public surveillance and police state actions create a state of paranoia in the populace that can often lead them to support armed conflicts... because they're just that freaked out and scared.

      Now, what about secret surveillance that is kept from the public? Well, it does similar things, except the paranoia now is left to fester inside the government and agencies that compile the data. There will always be apparent "threats" to every nation, always people shooting their mouths off about something or other, always people talking to shady people (but not actually intending to be terrorists).

      But increased surveillance ensures that lots of people in the government are frankly OBSESSED with huge amounts of weird stuff going by their desks every day. A report here, a briefing there, and suddenly you're convinced that many people are plotting terrorist activities right now -- and they're out to get you.

      I don't know this for certain, but I have to guess that this obsession with looking for ANY signs of potentially bad actions probably also contributed to the Bush White House arguing for an invasion of Iraq (again, see above). The more "data" that comes in, the more likely that people are to see random patterns in it, effectively finding what they want to see.

      And when those people are in charge of major governments or lots of weapons, that kind of paranoid quest combing through random data is a serious threat to world peace.

      I think there are better candidates.

      So do I. But someone who exposed the paranoid actions of crazy governments intent on finding "unseen enemies" to attack HAS potentially contributed something significant toward future peace.

    8. Re:Great news! by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think you don't really understand the point of those rights. They aren't rights simply for being rights. They are rights because they are a necessary component of a healthy civilization. An "all seeing police state" perpetuates violence - the kind that a state visits on its citizens - it is just one or two steps removed from the actual violence that it creates.

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    9. Re:Great news! by Quila · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's the peace prize, not the anti pedophile prize. PJPII did a lot to help topple the iron curtain, and he was the first pope to really reach out to other religions, including Jews, Muslims and Buddhists. He was the first pope to visit an Eastern Orthodox country since the split a thousand years ago.

    10. Re:Great news! by allaunjsiIverfox2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Snowden was just the messenger. If countries get angry at one another, it is because of their actions, not because of Snowden.

  3. As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought the Peace Prizes to Gore and Obama to be the most asinine thing that the committee has ever done.

    To implicitly compare those two politicians to the likes of King or Gandhi just disgusts me.

    What next, giving one to Jethro Tull?!

    1. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Barsteward · · Score: 4, Funny

      "What next, giving one to Jethro Tull?!"

      nah, give one to Cross eyed Mary instead...

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    2. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

      They also gave one to Yasser Arafat.

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    3. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by ISoldat53 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And Henry Kissinger.

    4. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Shinobi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Likewise, they also gave one to Menachim Begin, who was just as nasty a terrorist as Arafat.

    5. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > thought the Peace Prizes to Gore and Obama to be the most asinine thing that the committee has ever done.

      Concur 100% ! Considering Obama did fuck all to receive the prize, Snowden exposing the lies of the government most certainly deserves more then 1 medal !

    6. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They didn't award it to Obama for anything. They were trying to reward America for voting for a black President.

      A country with slavery as late as 1863, which had civil rights riots (and lynchings) in the 1960's, and which still has the Klan, which the same year had a party nominate Mr "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" and Mrs "Oh boy howdy", that country, that country, actually elected a black Democrat President.

      After seeing you re-elect GWB, not just elect him but re-elect him, do you realise how grateful the rest of the world was for any sign, no matter how small, that you weren't completely bat-shit fucking crazy?

      We were wrong, sure. But you have to see how desperate we were for any sign of sanity.

    7. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by metlin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Gandhi did not receive a Nobel.

    8. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by lxs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Without hard evidence there is no knowledge only speculation. This is what separates sane people from the tinfoil hat crowd.

    9. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by GNious · · Score: 4, Informative

      I thought Obama got his for being "not George W. Bush".

    10. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by rmdashrf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Which means that a lot of 'tinfoilers' all of a sudden became sane people after Edward Snowden's revelations.

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    11. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, Snowden's not Bush either, so that settles it. He should get one.

    12. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not really, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

      Really? My broken digital clock seems to think it's 88:88 PM all the time. At what two times is that right?

    13. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      88:88 PM in the afternoon and 88:88 PM in the morning.

    14. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And that one there shows that the Nobel peace prize means NOTHING.

    15. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Internetuser1248 · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Henry Kissinger.

      And that one there shows that the Nobel peace prize means NOTHING.

      Hey that is not fair, for years Kissenger systematically carpet bombed civilians in countries that were not a threat to the US at all (Laos, Cambodia)... and then he stopped.

      That means he single handedly stopped a horrific, unjust and criminal war. If that doesn't deserve a peace prize, it certainly deserves some kind of prize.

    16. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Informative

      The klan is currently a small irrelevant organization. It has had a couple of short lived boosts in popularity during its life time but overall is much less worrisome than other racist groups. And such racist groups appear in most countries, the US is not unique in having such secretive racist organizations, even in Norway and other scandinavian countries. There have been quite a lot of racial tension in Europe recently, which will likely grow as the population becomes less homogenous over time.

    17. Re:As an environmentalist and (former) Obama fan. by SteveFoerster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, but the terms of Nobel's will specified that the award can't be made posthumously, and it's well understood that the committee not awarding the prize in 1948 was a sort of "missing man formation" way to honor Gandhi.

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  4. They need by waspleg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to take away Obama's and give him that one. They should do it while playing the candidate Obama vs President Obama videos in the background.

    1. Re:They need by CubicleZombie · · Score: 5, Funny

      But if you like your Nobel Peace Prize then you can keep your Nobel Peace Prize.

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  5. Incredible irony by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If he wins, then we'll have one Peace Prize winner being honored for resisting the authoritarianism of another Peace Price winner.

  6. Obama by thetagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just about every human being that does not drone-strike weddings was a better choice than Obama.

    Congratulations to the Nobel Prize comittee for making such a particularly bad choice out of a universe of about 7 billion.

    1. Re:Obama by kamapuaa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obama won the Peace Prize for being a president who wasn't Bush. Nobel prizes are an asinine political statement by a committee that's become reactionary anti-American and anti-China.

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    2. Re:Obama by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      "out of a universe of about 7 billion"

      So it's not just the Miss Universe pageant that is rigged to only choose Earthlings...

    3. Re:Obama by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The list of eligible planets have been on public display at the Nobel institute for the last 50 years, so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complains and it's far too late to start making a fuss about it now. And by on display I mean in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'.

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  7. Re:Another way of looking at it: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I mean let's just have a look at the winners:
    A christian woman (mother Teresa) who tortured sick people by not giving them access to treatment and pain killers. (I bet if I left her out I would get +5, but fuck it)
    A bunch of US presidents.
    Henry Kissinger, who was involved in several wars.
    Probably the most similar to Snowden was the German man who alerted the rest of the world to the German re-armament.
    While he did get the prize it caused 2 committee members to resign because they didn't want to give the prize to a "criminal". His crime being of course treason for alerting the rest of the world to the re-armament.
    And lastly Ghandi, who made peaceful protests by not eating. Oh wait, never mind. The person who most comes to mind when you think peace never actually got a nobel peace prize.

  8. Re:Ah... the Nobel Peace Prize by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some of those prizes were to people or organizations who really deserved it: Jane Addams (no relation to Gomez or Morticia, you silly people), The International Red Cross (a couple of times), American Friends Service Committee (for humanitarian relief efforts during and after WWII), Linus Pauling, Martin Luther King, Amnesty International, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela / F.W. de Klerk, Doctors Without Borders, and Ellen Johnson Sirleaf all did a great deal in the service of peace and humanity, and many took great risks to do so.

    That kind of litany makes awards to people like Henry Kissinger even more of a travesty.

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  9. Re:As bad as Obama by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are confused, there is no notion of the USA's gathering intelligence to avoid terrorist attacks or wars.

    The federal government were watching the attackers of 9/11 to see what they would do. well, we saw what they did.

    The federal government used "intelligence" to justity a pointless invasion of Iraq (as aside note we supported Saddam and gave him money and dual use technnology to build the WMD he used to gas Iranians and Kurds)

    The CIA is using "intelligence" to protect their narcotics cash crops in Afghanistan, bombing competitors and protecting chosen drug lords.

    The federal government currently has FBI and DHS finding low IQ morons, losers with no ability to do anything, courting them for weeks while filling their heads with violent thoughts and ideas and then providing them with fake bombs. And then swooping in for arrests and headlines and congratulations all around for yet another blow in the "war on terror".

    This is the type of "intelligence" you are claiming is necessary? fuck you and all other shills for the US's corporate fascist government.

  10. Re:As bad as Obama by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Intelligence is critical... to avert wars.

    Right, but not in the way you think.

    Take the Syria conflict, for example - President Obama was preparing to use our soldiers and pilots as the "rebels" private air force, until the public became aware that said "rebels" were actually members of Al Qaeda. So, yes, intelligence averted the US entering yet another conflict, as well as arming our own enemies again - but it was the government who wanted to start the war in the first place.

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  11. Re:Nobel 'Peace' prize = Award from Israel by Khashishi · · Score: 4, Funny

    You forgot the brain rays. The Zionists are using brain rays to alter people's subconscious into passivity. Fortunately, these rays can be blocked by a thin layer of aluminium.

  12. Justice is needed to show the Union still stands by Endymion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As interesting as Snowden is, this is a distraction from the more important (and probably more urgent) question of... when are the criminals at the NSA going to be brought to justice?

    Also, when do we fire the people that sold out our actual spy talent - with their far more targeted, far more 4th Amendment compatible tools like THINTHREAD - instead of continuing to give a paycheck to the assholes that let 9/11 happen so they could keep funneling money to their contractor friends to develop the far more expensive TRAILBLAZER? The families of the victims that died do this willful neglegence will probably want to file civil lawsuits, too.

    A cornerstone of the very idea of "justice" is equal protection before the law, and these people need to get their day in court. If they do, then maybe we can start to put this feckless imbroglio behind us and move on, with only the usual political drama to worry about.

    On the other hand, if we fail to accomplish this task - if we fail to obtain some basic symbol that the Constitution is still respected as the highest law of the land - then we've really given up any last pretense that this is any kind of civilized nation with a social contract.

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  13. No one has deserved it more... by Karmashock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in a long long time.

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  14. Re:Are you sure Snowden is also not making things by lagomorpha2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There aren't many "Snowden's claims". The weird leaks are coming from security researchers pouring over all the power point presentations Snowden got from the NSA. So unless you think he faked those before passing them off to the media...