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Amherst Researchers Create Magnetic Monopoles

An anonymous reader writes "Nearly 85 years after pioneering theoretical physicist Paul Dirac predicted the possibility of their existence, an international collaboration led by Amherst College Physics Professor David S. Hall '91 and Aalto University (Finland) Academy Research Fellow Mikko Möttönen has created, identified and photographed synthetic magnetic monopoles in Hall's laboratory on the Amherst campus. The groundbreaking accomplishment paves the way for the detection of the particles in nature, which would be a revolutionary development comparable to the discovery of the electron." That's quite a step beyond detecting monopoles; the Nature abstract is online, but the full paper is paywalled.

156 comments

  1. Verry cool IF TRUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    But how many slashdot stories about fusion reactors, methanol fuel cells, or flying cars has actually been more than investor fleecing vaporware?

    1. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Should be able to make an extremely efficient motor from this if true. Also, perhaps something like an anti-gravity drive (obviuosly not true anti-grav though).

    2. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by tomhath · · Score: 5, Funny
      FTFA:

      Hall's team adopted an innovative approach to investigating Dirac's theory, creating and identifying synthetic magnetic monopoles in an artificial magnetic field generated by a Bose-Einstein condensate, an extremely cold atomic gas tens of billionths of a degree warmer than absolute zero.

      "Verry cool" is an understatement.

    3. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by tibit · · Score: 2

      Bullshit. Electric motors are limited by the performance of the conductors and the good old magnetic path where the monopoles are of no help. Electric motors with superconducting windings have been built, and they are pretty damn efficient. Heck, stock brushless electric motors are already pretty damn efficient.

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    4. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by RoboJ1M · · Score: 1

      Might be able then to *find* anti-gravity particles though! 8D

    5. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      no. it's not an understatement, it's a typo.

    6. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by mlts · · Score: 1

      EFOY fuel cells have been in the field for a while now. In fact, if you are willing to pony up the $8000 or so, you can get one for your RV. You have to use their methanol cartridges which are 150 bones per 10 liters, but they give out constant, relatively quiet power to keep RV batteries charged even at night, without needing to fire up a generator or start the vehicle's engine.

    7. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Electric motors aren't getting more efficient until someone finds a better room-temperature conductor than copper. Ideally a superconductor. There's no fundamental law that says such a thing couldn't exist, but so far it has eluded all efforts to find one.

    8. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Nano tube winding are possible.

      The group that find a way to mass produce long nano tube will be rich and will change the worlds.

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    9. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no. it's not an understatement, it's a typo.

      You misspelled Nazi.

    10. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Poor foolish AC doesn't understand the difference between science and engineering. Fusion reactors, methanol fuel cells, or flying cars are all engineering, not science. Constructing a monopole isn't something that is goimg to have shelves of monopoles in the stores, it confirmed an 85 year old theory.

      I wonder what the poor ignorant fool is doing posting here?

    11. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fusion reactors, methanol fuel cells,..., not science.

      Unless you are doing material science research critical to both, or say research into instabilities in the former, etc.

    12. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by tibit · · Score: 1

      It really doesn't matter. Copper is a pretty good conductor already. Having 100% efficient electric motors doesn't really solve any major engineering challenges. If anything, you may now need to pay extra for heaters.

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    13. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Perhaps true, but a better conductor would have another practical advantage in motor design. You could use higher currents without producing so much heat things start to melt. More powerful motors result.

      I have visions of a electric wheelchair with a 'turbo boost' button.

    14. Re:Verry cool IF TRUE by tibit · · Score: 1

      You can't go too far without saturating the magnetic path. Then you decide "oh, to heck with magnetic path, we've got the amp turns, we can have it all in the air". Not soon thereafter you hit the strength limits of whatever nonmagnetic composite structure you use to keep the coils from shredding themselves to pieces, never mind the extreme cyclic loads generated by the rotating magnetic fields on anything ferromagnetic that happens to be nearby.

      Practical superconducting motors require changes to pretty much everything else in the machine they are installed in. They only make sense in large, stationary applications like power generation, metal mills, etc. Anywhere you need a huge honkin' motor that can be kept separate from everything else. Other than that, they can be fairly impractical even if room temp superconductors were at hand.

      With helium prices on the rise, it won't be long at all until it's perfectly economical to run MRI scanners with water-cooled copper coils. Even if right now you'd swap MRI scanner windings with copper ones, you'd only increase the operating costs 2-3 fold, and decrease the purchase cost of the machine by a similar factor. That's not a big deal. The superconducting MRI magnets are, to me, almost an unnecessary gimmick.

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  2. Plus, they're worth 25 RU by nightfire-unique · · Score: 5, Funny

    .. and can certainly help in the fight against the Ur-Quan!

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    1. Re:Plus, they're worth 25 RU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm *frizzy* that the first post referenced UQM / StarCon.

    2. Re: Plus, they're worth 25 RU by locke.th · · Score: 1

      This one is made of win.

  3. Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The secrets of magnetism"

    Requires Superstring Theory, Silksteel Alloys

    Leads to Nanominiaturization, Unified Field Theory
    Enables: Terraform Mag Tube

    1. Re: Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are on our way to Transcendence

    2. Re:Monopole Magnets by Tebriel · · Score: 1

      This is the first thing I thought of upon seeing this article.

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    3. Re:Monopole Magnets by Kongming · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You ivory tower intellectuals must not lose touch with the world of industrial growth and hard currency. It is all very well and good to pursue these high-minded scientific theories, but research grants are expensive. You must justify your existence by providing not only knowledge but concrete and profitable applications as well.

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    4. Re:Monopole Magnets by Kojiro+Ganryu+Sasaki · · Score: 2

      I maintain nonetheless that yin-yang dualism can be overcome.
      With sufficient enlightenment we can give substance to any
      distinction: mind without body, north without south, pleasure
      without pain. Remember, enlightenment is a function of willpower,
      not of physical strength.

      â"Chairman Sheng-ji Yang,
      âoeEssays on Mind and Matterâ

    5. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have it wrong. Scientists make the discoveries and then its the engineers who apply those discoveries to the real world.

    6. Re:Monopole Magnets by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Funny

      And yet our tanks can still be beaten by archers.

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    7. Re:Monopole Magnets by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      And this is probably the reason Morgan is the first punishment sphere resident in nearly every single game of Alpha Centauri I've played.

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    8. Re:Monopole Magnets by some+old+guy · · Score: 2

      Scientist: I can mathematically predict a vacuum > 29 in/Hg

      Engineer: I can prove it with your lips on my manometer.

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    9. Re:Monopole Magnets by jythie · · Score: 1

      Unless of course one feels there is more value in knowledge, in which case it is industrial growth and hard currency that need to not loose touch with research, lest they fail to justify their existence and the resources they consume.

    10. Re:Monopole Magnets by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "...but concrete and profitable applications as well."
      which is the stupidest thing you can say about science, and the stupidest way to measure scientist success.
      Great way to kill research, tho.
      I suspect anyone who says that is just looking for an excuse to kill scientific investigation.

      No one knew electricity was going to lead to iPhones.

      You use science to find out how things work and publish it. Engineers use those finding to build things.

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    11. Re:Monopole Magnets by geekoid · · Score: 1

      There is no enlightenment, there is only acceptance of a narrative..an often incorrect narrative.

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    12. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      No one knew electricity was going to lead to iPhones.

      Probably just as well. If they had, we might never have had all the good things that electricity has brought us.

    13. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always figured that the archers fired arrows that locked up the tracks to stall it, then used flaming arrows to set the inside on fire, killing everyone in it.

    14. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you from the past?

    15. Re:Monopole Magnets by Valdrax · · Score: 2

      It's a quote from the leader of the turbo-capitalist faction in the game being referenced in the post it was a reply to.

      Personally, I would have gone with this quote, since it's the actual one that matches the research of Monopole Magnets:

      I maintain nonetheless that yin-yang dualism can be overcome. With sufficient enlightenment we can give substance to any distinction: mind without body, north without south, pleasure without pain. Remember, enlightenment is a function of willpower, not of physical strength.

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    16. Re:Monopole Magnets by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Somehow I think you are refering to a 19th century European definition of enlightenment.

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    17. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate it when a primitive warrior beats my battleship!

    18. Re:Monopole Magnets by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      [ ] Explore
      [XXXX] Discover
      [ ] Build
      [ ] Conquer

      Screw it, we'll pick up the rest on the way. All the good weapons and reactors are Discover techs anyway.

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    19. Re:Monopole Magnets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have you seen the SIZE of their arrows?

  4. Besides that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..it does an attractive screen saver.

  5. Practical application. by grub · · Score: 1

    North and South Pole-specific compasses. I should patent that.

    (magentic north be damned)

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    1. Re:Practical application. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean I can FINALLY make my infinite power device by having a rotating center with north-only magnets rotate around an alternating north and south magnet container ?
      FINALLY, WE CAN GO TO THE MOON WITH SUCH POWER.

      (Leakage be damned)

    2. Re:Practical application. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disney Already has! Your new compass has a needle which spins in circles, and for only $9.99 +gst you can active the built in compass North or South (but not both) for only $20 more you can upgrade to the premium feature's which includes different "skins" snap on covers for only $9.99 each and accurate magnetic guidance (R2D2 Voice) + ($30 for C3PO translation), Please note you are required to purchase a subscription to Disney care $4.99 Per week this cover's proprietary licensing fees and the backup service located in the Utah Data Center, "also known as the Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative Data Cente"

    3. Re:Practical application. by cellocgw · · Score: 2

      (magentic north be damned)

      Agreed. I far prefer roseate north.

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  6. Copyright infringement. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://larryniven.wikia.com/wiki/Known_Space_Technology

    Well, that happened. ....again.

    Next?

  7. What is it? by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 1
    For the lay people in this particular field, from TFA (also, wiki link):

    As the name suggests, however, a magnetic monopole is a magnetic particle possessing only a single, isolated pole—a north pole without a south pole, or vice versa.

    1. Re:What is it? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      If you can't figure out what a magnetic monopole is from it's name, you shouldn't be reading /.

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    2. Re:What is it? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It was discovered by Dr. Monopole, duh.

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    3. Re:What is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Clearly it's $1 in monopoly money.

    4. Re:What is it? by wagnerrp · · Score: 1

      Working at the lab late one night, he got doused with radiation while in the presence of a strong magnetic field, and from then on, found himself incredibly attractive to members of the opposite polarity.

    5. Re:What is it? by fisted · · Score: 1

      If you still think /. readers would be any smarter than average joe, you shouldn't be reading /.

    6. Re:What is it? by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 1

      If you can't use proper grammar (it's), you ... nevermind, you're in the right place, asshole.

    7. Re:What is it? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Heh, was waiting for this :-)

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  8. Ha the science publishers will be all over this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn we have to rewrite the textbooks on electromagnetism.
    No more div B = 0.

  9. Are we sure. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Funny

    someone wasn't playing a trick on them and was turning the electric can opener on and off in the other room?

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    1. Re:Are we sure. . . by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Hold the phone - the researchers are cats?

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    2. Re:Are we sure. . . by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hold the phone

      I can't. I has no thumbs.

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    3. Re:Are we sure. . . by dale.furno · · Score: 1

      Monkeys do too have thumbs, no matter how Wonky they are

    4. Re:Are we sure. . . by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It was either that or kill Sheldon.

    5. Re:Are we sure. . . by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      Bazinga!

  10. Monopole Magnets by Experiment+626 · · Score: 1

    I maintain nonetheless that yin-yang dualism can be overcome.

    With sufficient enlightenment we can give substance to any distinction: mind without body, north without south, pleasure without pain. Remember, enlightenment is a function of willpower, not of physical strength.

    —Chairman Sheng-ji Yang,
    “Essays on Mind and Matter”

    Time to start building those Mag Tubes!

  11. Contradicts current theory? by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 0

    Does this contradict previous electromagnetic theory? I always thought that a magnetic field had two poles and doesnt that this is not true sort of throw EMF theories into the rubbish? Also, would this allow for the development of an over unity, energy from nothing generation machine. Perhaps someone could provide an in the nutshell description of EMF theory and relation of electric field to magnetic for the benefit of others here.

    1. Re:Contradicts current theory? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Not the theory put forth by Paul Dirac 85 years ago.... but, otherwise, yes - this is essentially a different source of magnetism from that created by moving electrons.

    2. Re:Contradicts current theory? by tibit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's some misunderstanding of what a scientific theory is, right there. A theory must have predictive power - it must be useful for something, that is. Electromagnetic theory, so far, is extremely successful precisely because it works where we need it to work. The monopole demonstration doesn't change it one iota - neither your computer nor your electric plant have stopped working overnight.

      It doesn't matter in practice that it doesn't work everywhere, and there's no need to rewrite anything and there's no contradiction. We know that the classical theory of electromagnetism, well, applies to classical scale phenomena, under certain conditions. No scientist in their sane mind would insist that this effect contradicts the classical theory. It's simply outside of the classical theory's scope, just as relativistic effects are outside of the realm of classical mechanics.

      The real problem is with extremely widespread, naive understanding of what a scientific theory is and that there are limits to applicability of any scientific theory of nature. The phrase "law of nature" is perhaps the biggest romanticism-imbued snafu there ever was in popularization of science.

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    3. Re:Contradicts current theory? by dkf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Theory (due to Paul Dirac's work combining quantum mechanics and relativity in the first half of the 20th Century) had been predicting monopoles for a long time. Yeah, the simplified version that you were quoting from didn't predict monopoles, but the full version did. If the submitters of the paper have found one of these rare beasts in the lab, that's a very interesting confirmation.

      The real question is whether the result can be reproduced by different experimenters in a different lab. (Since it's lab-scale work, that ought to be possible.) If so, watch out for some really interesting new areas of physics to be opened up.

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    4. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is trivial to add magnetic monopoles to Maxwell's equations. If anything, the equations become more symmetric and uniform with monopoles. They are normally left out because they had never been observed, so it would be like always plugging in a zero for the magnetic charge term.

    5. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Kongming · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, would this allow for the development of an over unity, energy from nothing generation machine.

      The answer to that question is always, always no. Except when it's still no, in which case it is no. No.

      In conclusion, no.

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    6. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      They actually coaxed a BEC into "simulating" a magnetic monopole. http://www.nature.com/news/qua...

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    7. Re:Contradicts current theory? by blueg3 · · Score: 2

      No. Maxwell's equations are essentially symmetric with respect to electricity and magnetism. Not surprising, since they are really the same thing. The form that you usually learn in school reduces the equations by having magnetic charge = 0 and magnetic current = 0 everywhere, since as far as we know, that's the world we live in. But magnetic monopoles are in no way disruptive to our understanding of how electricity and magnetism work.

    8. Re:Contradicts current theory? by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you're saying there's a chance...?

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    9. Re:Contradicts current theory? by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, they created a magnetic monopole but they didn't create a magnetic monopole. :) They created a magnetic field without it's corresponding opposite field (or actually the opposing field was separated by enough physical distance that they behaved independently), but they didn't create or detect the particle which in theory generates that field.

    10. Re:Contradicts current theory? by breech1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      No it doesn't contradict previous theory. The existence of a magnetic monopole would require adding some extra terms in Maxwell's equations: one for magnetic "charge" (the monopole) and one for magnetic "current" (moving monopole) analogous to electric charge and current. (Adjusting Maxwell's equations this way is a popular exercise in advanced undergrad / grad level E&M courses). If your system happened to have a magnetic monopole in it, then you would need to use the equations with the extra terms. You would see some extra effects due to the monopoles, but they would be accounted for. The extra terms would give a nice symmetry to Maxwell's equations, helping to demonstrate that the electric and magnetic field are manifestations of the same phenomena (which isn't clear until you get to special relativity).

    11. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try a fun experiment one day: when talking to someone who espouses those kinds of beliefs, try talking about space. I think you'll see a large overlap between people with imaginary science and people with irrational beliefs about space. Just watch for the following dog-whistles: this rock, the species, computers got better.

    12. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having dealt with a lot of over unity types at lab tours and from old contact emails, I don't see much if any correlation with a push for space programs from them. They are by far mostly too busy worrying about conspiracy theories or view government research as a problem and are not pushing for more. Those that discuss space travel are too busy using the past tense as if there are things already in progress and being hidden, or just assume it will be trivial given some other far out technology/psuedo-science they are focusing on instead. At least in that sense, their logic is sound: if we assume we have access to limitless power, space travel becomes a lot cheaper and straightforward. The problem is with the premise.

    13. Re:Contradicts current theory? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      no, it' does not contradict it at all. What it seems to have done is underscore the fact that you don't know what a scientific theory is, or is not.

      It's new information that in no way changes what we know, only ADDS to it.
      It's not like it broke Ohm's law.

      Just like Einstein didn't make anything Newton discovered incorrect.

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    14. Re:Contradicts current theory? by wagnerrp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just like Einstein didn't make anything Newton discovered incorrect.

      Of course he did. Newton's laws of motion are wrong, but they're still close enough for use in certain scales and applications. The small angle approximation is wrong, but it still lets you do some trig in your head. Truncating a series expansion after just a few orders is wrong, but that's often all you need.

    15. Re:Contradicts current theory? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I'm in the 99% that spent more time jotting out a one line comment than RTFA- what I got from my skim is that they have created magnetic monopoles, but not in isolation - meaning that there is a S for every N, but they have been separated from each other far enough in space that they behave as a monopole?

      If you have read the article to a deeper level of understanding and can quickly summarize or convey that knowledge, please do.

      If you're looking for Abuse, that's down the hall.

    16. Re:Contradicts current theory? by mburns · · Score: 1

      It is easy to think of a way to make free angular momentum from an actual magnetic monopole. Who can do this without searching the internet? Why do academics not do basic plausibility checks on their work?

      And no, quantum mechanics is not exempt from conservation laws in ways that are macroscopically measurable. The Bianchi identities prohibit this where the metric exists. There was a failure to detect any slowing of gamma rays across the universe by vacuum effects.

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    17. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Livius · · Score: 1

      Newton's laws are *not* wrong within the precision available in his lifetime.

    18. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I presume that this means that they cannot predict the mass of the monopole?

    19. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newton's laws are not wrong within precision used on a large portion of engineering and even physics research, today

    20. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is easy to think of a way to make free angular momentum from an actual magnetic monopole

      The fields inherently has angular momentum, but it is not like you can extract that without the creation or destruction of the monopole. So unless the monopole is free, the angular momentum isn't either.

    21. Re:Contradicts current theory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fact that has nothing to do with anything insofar as we are talking about things being wrong.

      Newton was an excellent scientist and achieved wonderful things in the advancement of science. But he doesn't get a pass for having access to only 18th century knowledge and technology, just as Einstein doesn't get a pass for only having access to 20th century knowledge and technology.

      As he concluded himself regarding his "shoulders of giants" commentary, you can see just a little bit further than your predecessors by standing upon them, and their achievements are all the more mighty because of the lesser height they could possibly reach, but were able to reach anyhow.

    22. Re:Contradicts current theory? by lars_stefan_axelsson · · Score: 1

      Of course he did. Newton's laws of motion are wrong...

      Sure, but there's being wrong and there's being wrong.

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  12. This is cool, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they haven't really found a magnetic monopole. They've created a long skinny solenoid with ends that are far enough apart that they look like independent monopoles.

    Great physics, terrible summary.

    1. Re:This is cool, but by dkf · · Score: 1

      they haven't really found a magnetic monopole. They've created a long skinny solenoid with ends that are far enough apart that they look like independent monopoles.

      My reading of the paper was that that's the physical interpretation of what monopoles are in the first place.

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    2. Re:This is cool, but by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      Nope, there's no corresponding opposite pole in the system they've created. It's a genuine magnetic monopole quasiparticle, albeit one that only exists as the product of tweaking the magnetic field of a Bose-Einstein condensate.

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    3. Re:This is cool, but by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Informative

      no, these are not monopoles at all, hence the word "synthetic" in front.

      there is no evidence whatsoever that monopoles exist, not for the last 70+ years of searching.

    4. Re:This is cool, but by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      false, there is no magnetic field from a source point, a compass wouldn't point at what they've created.

      these are not magnetic monopoles at all, in no sense of the word.

      magnetic monopoles do not exist, there are no evidence they exist after decades of looking.

    5. Re:This is cool, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      genuine ... quasi

      It's a real fake!!!

    6. Re:This is cool, but by geekoid · · Score: 1

      There is no reason they can't exist, nor have many of the ways to look for them been completed.

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    7. Re:This is cool, but by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      wrong, the search has been ongoing for over 40 years, nothing found

    8. Re:This is cool, but by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Good thing you weren't in charge when Christopher Columbus was looking for funding from Spain.

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    9. Re:This is cool, but by slew · · Score: 1

      As I understand it, there are 2 potential manifestations for what people call magnetic monopoles...

      1. Existence of a unit of magnetic charge analogous to an electrical charge attached to some sort of particle.
      2. So-called Dirac monopoles (a "monopole" that is connected by a 1-D dirac-string to another "monopole" of opposite magnetic "charge")

      Nobody has seen #1, and from what I can gather, most folks don't expect to find them. #2 turns out to be one theoretical way to get monopoles to be consistent w/ Maxwell's equations w/o the existence of magnetic charges. The main theoretical difference between the two might be thought of as the #1 has divergence is all directions, but #2 has divergence in all directions, but one (where the "string" comes out), but this may be unobservable since the Dirac string is 1D.

      This experiment in question appears to be a way to simulate the physics of case #2 inside of a condensed matter system. The point isn't "magnetic" in the common sense of the word, only simulating the physics in the confines of that system. One of the breakthroughs appears to be the fact that they could somehow image the (vortex) pattern of the field rather than indirectly inferring the field from it's properties.

  13. Monopole Money by retroworks · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could run an electric utility, four railroads, and get out of jail free if this can be produced to scale.

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  14. MAG-TUBES! by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Sweet! On to Nanominiaturization and Unified Field Theory.

  15. Re:Ha the science publishers will be all over this by tibit · · Score: 2

    Except that as far as I understand it, those classical equations are unaffected. It's a quantum-scale effect.

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  16. Next: aguuti nodules by Culture20 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Magnetic monopoles, how do they work? My guess is the other pole is directed through higher spacial dimensions.

  17. Re:Ha the science publishers will be all over this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn we have to rewrite the textbooks on electromagnetism.
    No more div B = 0.

    might want to read the paper more closely. still have div B = 0

  18. How is this different from previous research? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:How is this different from previous research? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From the article:

      Unlike monopole experiments in spin ices, liquid crystals, skyrmion lattices and metallic ferromagnets, our experiments demonstrate the essential quantum features of the monopole envisioned by Dirac3.

  19. Pseudoparticles by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These are pseudoparticles. They're like magnetic monopoles in almost all ways, but they arise from the collective motion of other particles rather than actually existing in and of themselves (think about having an electron hole, versus having an actual positron). The breakthrough is that they've made the first pseudoparticle in a quantum mechanical regime that allows it to behave consistently with the real particle.

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    1. Re:Pseudoparticles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're like magnetic monopoles in almost all ways, but they arise from the collective motion of other particles rather than actually existing in and of themselves

      All magnetic fields arise from the collective motion of other particles.

    2. Re:Pseudoparticles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True. Also I thought I had seen this before from last year. Turns out I did.

      http://phys.org/news/2013-05-artificial-magnetic-monopoles.html#nRlv from a different team than the Finland one.

    3. Re:Pseudoparticles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So in other words, these are not the magnetic monopoles that were discussed learning Maxwells equations in Physics 201? Got it.

      I always pictured a magnetic monopole to be spherical, with the flux eminating universally outward. And of course, with degradation over time.

    4. Re:Pseudoparticles by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I like the "electron hole" analogy. Electron holes aren't as spectacular as positrons; they don't annihilate electrons and generate gamma-ray photons. They can, however, "annihilate" an electron in a semiconductor to produce a visible photon -- and that's how we get LEDs.

      This "monopole" won't let us build super-motors or disintegrate protons at will. But I wonder if, recreated in a more robust medium, it could have its own interesting uses?

    5. Re:Pseudoparticles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? No. Not even a little close.

    6. Re:Pseudoparticles by dsdtzero · · Score: 1

      "Actually existing in and of themselves"...
      I think we will find that even "real" particles are quasiparticles. We only know "real" particles because they act like particles which is exactly how we identify quasiparticles. I think we will get further in understanding our perspective of nature if we realize the names we give to things don't change the things themselves. Particles are the tip of an iceberg we don't fully understand so the distinction between what call particles and what we call quasiparticles is a human thing that is vestigial from previous perspectives. Let it go. :)

    7. Re:Pseudoparticles by radtea · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They're like magnetic monopoles in almost all ways...

      Correct. The ways they don't behave like magnetic monopoles are scale-dependent. At sufficiently large distances they are indistinguishable from point-like monopoles (monopole equivalents of electrons.) At short distances they aren't anything like monopoles.

      The theory they are based on, curiously, predicts that they are free in the medium they exist in, which was something of a surprise. That is, in an infinite BEC, they would be free to move anywhere, making them much more like "true" monopoles than expected.

      Whether or not you call these "real" monopoles is a matter of taste. The reality is that at sufficiently large distances no experiment you could perform would be able to distinguish them from a monopole particle, making them extremely practical mechanisms for investigating the physics of monopoles.

      One interesting thing is that Dirac showed the existence of a single monopole anywhere in the universe could explain why the electron charge was quantized, because for a given monopole strength there is only one value of electron charge that can interact with it consistently (any other value requires the electron wavefunction to have multiple values at same point in space-time, which would imply a breakdown of quantum mechanics.) I don't know if these pseudo-monopoles are sufficient to impose that condition.

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    8. Re:Pseudoparticles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Normal magnetic fields do not require collective behavior of particles, and can involve just a single particle creating a magnetic field in a vacuum (or alternatively, just two particles interacting with each other, without collective behavior). It is different from when you need to set up a background sea of particles that do something to change the fields involve.

    9. Re:Pseudoparticles by slew · · Score: 1

      Although you may like the "electron hole" analogy, it does not correctly illustrate this phenomena.

      A "electron hole" is a deficit of negative charge in some region relative to another that can be sometimes treated quantum mechanically as if it was a positive charge. This phenomena has nothing to do with this as there are no regions of opposite magnetic charge to borrow from.

      This effect described relies on manipulating the magnetic fields in such a way that it organizes a condensed matter state in a way similar to a Dirac-monopole (basically a monopole-like structure, except it has a 1D dirac-string hanging off connected to something that has the net opposite "charge" as opposed to a fundamental monopole which if it existed would be a particle with an actual unit of magnetic charge like an electron has a unit of electrical charge). The interesting thing is that it is a simulation of a dirac monopole in a quantum regime such that it follows the same quantum law of physics as a Dirac monopole.

      Of course they couldn't do this in free space (which is how a real dirac monopole could be manifested), but in the context of this experimental environment, it bears the question that if you manipulate the magnetic fields such that it looks like monopole, is it really a monopole you created? Does the field create the particle, or the particle create the field? That's a question to think about. If it quacks like a duck...

    10. Re:Pseudoparticles by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      You may like the duck analogy, but it does not correctly illustrate this phenomenon. :)

      Joking aside, I realize that I don't know enough about the model domain to evaluate my analogy. The similarities I see are that electron holes, like these "monopoles", are actually emergent from the behavior of other entities; they exist only in certain specialized materials, not in free space; and, finally, they share some characteristics with the physical anti-electron (positron), but differ in many important ways. Electron holes give rise to their own effects, which have led to the whole of solid-state electronics. I'm wondering whether these "model monopoles" will have practical applications as well, or whether they're mostly just an experimental curiosity.

    11. Re:Pseudoparticles by slew · · Score: 1

      If you feel you need an analogy, this monopole construction technique is more akin to constructing a meta-material (e.g., something with a negative index of refraction). It is a simulation of something that doesn't normally exist in nature, but by carefully controlling the small scale structure, you can get it to have certain properties you want in a limited range of operation.

      I was specifically rejecting your analogy of monopoles like holes, because that is analogous to using the absence an electron in an environment to simulate an anti-electron, where there are not positive or negative magnetic charges used in this technique (because magnetic charges likely don't exist).

      One technique is trying to make a spirit level by filling a tube almost to the top with water and using the bubble as "hole" (the lack of liquid) to exhibit the effect of gravity. Another technique is simulating a level by using the gyroscopes in your cell phone. If there is no liquid available, you cannot execute the first plan, but of course you can still simulate it using other phenomena. In the case of your cell phone, a Micro-Electro-Mechanical (MEMs) gyroscope is used, no liquid needed.

  20. Err, quasiparticles by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    I should say, "quasiparticles".

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  21. Sheldon FTW! by dloflin · · Score: 1

    Yes! Sheldon is vindicated!!

    1. Re:Sheldon FTW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he didn't discover them. Just more evidence that he is less talented than the competition.

      He may fall into a depression and become --- GASP --- human!

  22. Maybe I'm stupid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but isn't it a real breakthrough in levitation (Theorically)?

  23. Are these true really true monopoles? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2
    Or is it just like a normal, really long magnet with an "undetectable" body (the bar between the poles)?

    Meaning, that if they have a south monopole somewhere in their "extremely cold gas", someplace else within the same gas has a north monopole. Then just consider the line linking both to be the magnet.

    Call us back when they can separate them by splitting the "extremely cold gas" into 2 containers, in such a way that one container has the south pole, and the other the north pole, and both can be moved arbitrarily far from each other.

    1. Re:Are these true really true monopoles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure you could probably tuck the "south monopole" somewhere inside the cold gas" and just have the "north monopole" stretched out. I'm visuallising it as the magnetic equivalent of a Klein bottle.

  24. Glad they're back in stock... by PseudoCoder · · Score: 3, Funny

    My previous supplier has left me high and dry and I can't finish my perpetual motion machine without one of these. Can I get a discount on more than one? Or do I have to buy them one by one to avoid them neutralizing each other?

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  25. "but the full paper is paywalled" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Unless you are really up on your Maxwell's equations and condensed matter physics, you wouldn't get much out of the actual paper. When I hear all the bitching and moaning about paywalled papers and how "the people" need to see the paper, I can't help but think that 99.999% of "the people" couldn't get past the intro paragraph because of all the field-specific details. That's why there are places like Scientific American and numerous science-writer blogs to translate this for the layman. If you can understand the following, then you most likely have access to the actual article, and if you don't know what this all means, then you are far better off going for the layman's summary:

    The spinor order parameter corresponding to the Dirac monopole14,17 is generated by an adiabatic spin rotation in response to a time-varying magnetic field, B(r, t). Similar spin rotations have been used to create multiply quantized vortices18 and skyrmion spin textures19. The order parameter Y(r, t)5y(r, t)f(r, t) is the product of a scalar order parameter, y, and a spinor, f~ðfz1,f0,f{1T¼^ jfi, where fm5Æmjfæ represents the mth spinor component along z. The condensate is initially spin-polarized along the z axis, that is, f5(1, 0, 0)T. Following the method introduced in ref. 14, a magnetic field Bðr,t~bqðxx^zy^y{2z^zzBzðt^z is applied, where bq.0 is the strength of a quadrupole field gradient and Bz(t) is a uniform bias field. The magnetic field zero is initially located on the z axis at z~Bzð0=(2bq)?Z, where Z is the axial Thomas–Fermi radius of the condensate. The spin rotation occurs as Bz is reduced, drawing the magnetic field zero into the region occupied by the superfluid.

    1. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And half the time people complain that an article is pay-walled, they don't do a simple search for the article's title that would show a free preprint version as the first result. In this case, I don't see the article on places like ArXiV, but the authors have previous papers there so it only might be a matter of time before they upload it and/or update their website.

    2. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      QED, not maxwells equations and yes part of my degree was the CMP. Anyway, the the subject of these articles are not monopoles at all, no magnetic field at all in fact, an imaginary compass wouldn't point toward them.

      There is not one shred of evidence that magnetic monopoles exist. These researchers have not made a magnetic monopole.

    3. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by PPH · · Score: 1

      Somewhere, sitting in the USPTO, signing off on useless "Do X on the Internet" patents, there is an individual for whom all of this stuff is trivially simple. We would do science a great service to facilitate this person's access to such material.

      Even if only to provide a distraction and keep a number of useless patents off the books.

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    4. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      This!

      The AC OP's point is a terrible one because it could apply to nearly everything more complicated than a primetime tv show. It isn't about the 99.999% who can't use the information, it is the 0.001% who can use it that matter and it is no one's job to decide who qualifies.

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    5. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by kheldan · · Score: 1

      99.999% of "the people"

      The problem is more basic than that, really. Average citizens won't know what to make of this until it's something that affects their day-to-day lives (unless you're Insane Clown Posse, in which case you reprise an earlier work over the news). I'm no physicist, but I am a science-fiction fan and reader, so I have some idea how important this development is if it's true, but the rank-and-file person-on-the-street? Not so much, until they can, for instance, buy an electric car that goes 10000 miles on a single charge and have the performance of a Formula-1 race car.

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    6. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by quax · · Score: 1

      "The people" who complain are often academics outside the research community and not affiliated with an institution that can afford the horrendous subscription cost.

      You may have notice the journals charge about $20 a pop for individual subscriptions of articles.

      Why do you think they'll do that if there wasn't some demand for it?

    7. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by quax · · Score: 1

      Please mod parent up. Gauss law div B = 0 is perfectly healthy despite this inane babbling of monopoles in the write-up of this research.

      Yes, its field looks from the outside like a monopole, but it's a quasi particle not an actual naked monopole, the latter would be the equivalent of a magnetic charge particle.

      Despite having been hunting this Snark for decades there is no indication that there is such a thing in nature.

    8. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bðr,t~bqðxx^zy^y{2z^zzBzðt^z

      What?! My mother was a saint! /Zoidberg

    9. Re:"but the full paper is paywalled" by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Bðr,t~bqðxx^zy^y{2z^zzBzðt^z

      Somebody go check on Doctor Cooper...I think he's having a seizure on his keyboard.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

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  26. not really monopoles! by somepunk · · Score: 2

    You should be thanking Alan Guth and the Gods of Inflation they didn't find actual monopoles. Those things are terrifying beasts! They eat protons like it's going out of style!
    http://www.npl.washington.edu/...

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  27. These are NOT Dirac Monopoles by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    But how many slashdot stories about fusion reactors, methanol fuel cells, or flying cars has actually been more than investor fleecing vaporware?

    These are not actually Dirac monopoles. These are magnetic quasiparticles that behave in a way that simulates Dirac monopoles.

    The Ars Technicha article has the best explanation:
    http://arstechnica.com/science...
    Emphasis mine:
    "Since we can't seem to find one, though, some researchers decided to emulate monopole behavior using an analogous quantum system. They used a Bose-Einstein condensate: a collection of very cold atoms that behaves like a single quantum system."

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    1. Re:These are NOT Dirac Monopoles by dale.furno · · Score: 1

      Thank you .

    2. Re:These are NOT Dirac Monopoles by camperdave · · Score: 1

      From my understanding, the only way to have a magnetic monopole is to have an electric field that is at right angles to reality.

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    3. Re:These are NOT Dirac Monopoles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you had a particle that just carried magnetic charge like other particles carry electric charge, it wouldn't require any weird electric or magnetic fields. It would fit in just fine with Maxwell's equations as we know it, just in the odd case you have a monopole you get to actually use non-zero magnetic charge and/or magnetic current giving additional phenomena, but still with plain old 3D electric and magnetic fields.

    4. Re:These are NOT Dirac Monopoles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep, i thought the same thing when i read the article. reminds me of the artificial monopoles that have been made in spin glasses years ago.

      "those are not the monopoles you seek!"

      Dirac's monopoles would be single particle objects.

      Nonetheless, this is cool stuff

  28. monopole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you hear that somebody has created a magnetic monopole?

    Now the FTC is launching an anti-trust suit to break them up.

  29. UGGHHHH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really wish that lamers would stop posting articles to paywalled sites to try and generate traffic in the hope some sucker subscribes. post a link to the full article or get the hell of the internet and stop wasting people's time.

  30. Re:Ha the science publishers will be all over this by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Informative

    no, that equation still holds with no known exceptions.

    summary is wrong, no monopoles were produced, just a formation that in some ways resembles one but is not a magnetic source or sink.

    really, the sensationalist nonsense of half of slashdot's headings needs to stop

  31. Slightly off topic but... by adisakp · · Score: 1

    Can someone identify the music in the video?

  32. Fucking magnets by nuckfuts · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Fucking magnets by fisted · · Score: 1

      it's a fucking miracle

  33. Re:Ha the science publishers will be all over this by jythie · · Score: 1

    Yeah, esp since what the researchers actually did was still pretty expletive cool.

  34. Now we can fight of the Kzinti! by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Thanks to Larry Niven.

  35. This can mean only one thing - by xZoomerZx · · Score: 1

    We will soon be searching for monopoles in the asteroids which will lead to our first encounter with the Pak.

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  36. not a real monopole by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    With a standard magnet, if you try to cut the poles apart, you end up with two smaller magnets, each with a pair of poles.

    The Dirac monopole is like, instead of cutting the poles of a magnet apart, you deform the magnet and pull the poles apart until there is just a tiny infinitesimally small string connecting the two poles. You haven't actually created monopoles, but simulated them.

    Still an impressive feat, but we haven't broken physics, despite what you might infer from the headlines.

  37. Not read the paywalled paper yet but by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    terms like "synthetic" vs "real" make me cringe. Did they make synthetic tops at Fermilab and higgs at LHC? I'll reserve my excitement for some credible review of this claim and paper.

    1. Re:Not read the paywalled paper yet but by dkf · · Score: 1

      terms like "synthetic" vs "real" make me cringe. Did they make synthetic tops at Fermilab and higgs at LHC? I'll reserve my excitement for some credible review of this claim and paper.

      It's passed the first stage of peer review; it's published, and is thus probably not complete shit. Next stage is for other people to reproduce the work for themselves, and most of the paper appears to be the sorts of details that you'd need to be able to go off and do that. If you're not a condensed-matter physicist with a suitable lab (nor am I) then you can probably live without reading the full paper. If the result holds up, the interesting parts will be repeated elsewhere. (Which is good. The paper itself is definitely not an easy read, speaking as someone who hasn't properly studied physics for decades.)

      I'm really glad that there's this sort of thing going on, to be honest. It's the sort of physics that fits in a normal lab and a normal budget, and yet which can let us work with all sorts of really exotic stuff. The whole area of metamaterials seems to be really quite exciting overall.

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    2. Re:Not read the paywalled paper yet but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      terms like "synthetic" vs "real" make me cringe. Did they make synthetic tops at Fermilab and higgs at LHC? I'll reserve my excitement for some credible review of this claim and paper.

      A true monopole only has a "north" or a "south". A synthetic monopole has both a "north" and a "south", but quantum slight-of-hand has been used to hide that fact.

  38. retards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need little to get impressed dont ya....

    Ss it does zero for mankind what they did ...your impressed by...nothing means only your ability to reason must be unequivocally damaged in functional capacity of logic and reasoning.

    1. Re:retards by jythie · · Score: 1

      Does zero for mankind? That is a pretty subjective concept. Since I value expanding the human sphere of knowledge, what they did was something.

    2. Re:retards by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      I would disagree that the experiment did so little; however, your posting, on the other hand....

  39. Paywalled - Doesn't Exist by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    Not on the Internet.

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  40. electrons are monopoles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    electromagnetic, none the less..