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Reports Say Satya Nadella Is Microsoft's Next CEO

Nerval's Lobster writes "Microsoft's next CEO will be Satya Nadella, if current reports prove accurate. According to Re/code, which drew its information from "numerous sources close to Microsoft," Nadella could officially assume the role in early February. Meanwhile, anonymous sources speaking to Bloomberg suggested that co-founder Bill Gates could be forced to give up his longtime chairman role. Nadella (again, if confirmed) seems a logical choice for Microsoft. He's been with the company for more than twenty years, eventually becoming executive vice president of its Cloud and Enterprise division. The enterprise remains a key—perhaps the key — customer segment for Microsoft, especially as its mobile and consumer efforts (excluding the Xbox) have floundered in recent years; in order to retain those business clients, Nadella and his team embarked on the creation of 'Cloud OS,' the platform that powers Microsoft's large-scale cloud services such as SkyDrive, Azure, and Office 365. Under his guidance, Microsoft's revenue from cloud services has grown by several billion over the past few years, so he's shown that he can expand a business. In addition, his technical background could afford him a measure of respect from Microsoft's legions of engineers and developers. But if he's ultimately tapped for the CEO seat, Nadella faces one of the toughest jobs in the technology industry: not only does he need to craft a plan that will allow Microsoft to grow and prosper in an integrated, holistic manner—he'll need to do it while guiding the company through the massive internal reorganization initiated by his predecessor, Steve Ballmer."

177 comments

  1. here's a suggestion by etash · · Score: 3, Funny

    let B.G. become CEO again. founders are a better choice (as a rule, which means it also has exceptions ofc)

    1. Re:here's a suggestion by xfizik · · Score: 1, Troll

      I think he's too busy designing ultra-thin condoms for Africa - a way more important job in the grand scheme of things for humanity.

    2. Re:here's a suggestion by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And, if you're in a car accident, if we just let you bleed on the street, we'll have saved a few bucks too.

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      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    3. Re:here's a suggestion by mechtech256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Birth control and education are some of the major problems he's addressing, and that doesn't lead to more starving, suffering kids.

    4. Re:here's a suggestion by Zynder · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I know this is just some good old fashion racist bullshit but I just had to respond because I've heard this kind of rant many times. I also have a history of feeding those poor starving trolls of any nationality. It takes less than a penny a day! I know stupidity and racism go hand in hand but I'm going to analyze your argument for our readership. Please follow along:

      If we just let all the Africans starve, maybe they wouldn't keep having hundreds of kids they don't have food and water for.

      This is blaringly obviously NOT EFFECTIVE. Those people are so poor that fucking is about the only thing they can do. It is free and because they have little education, they evidently can't figure out that is what gets you pregnant until it's too late. I'm middle aged, so my history on the plight of Africa doesn't go back very far, but I recall the plight of Africa gaining mainstream attention probably around the mid 80s with that whole Sally Struthers campaign. Since that time a lot of charity and aid has been sent and I think overall analysis concludes that their situation has been getting better- at least Jimmy Carter thinks so. Well what did we do before we starting sending all this aid? I'm guessing we used your proposed method which was ignore them, let them fend for themselves, and if they die, they die. Firstly that proposal is morally reprehensible to me. I don't just let people die if I can help them. But morals aside, just ignoring the situation made the problem worse. With nothing better to do they just keep pumping kids out regardless of if they can feed them or not. It has been shown historically time and time again when a nation becomes wealthy, birthrates plummet and mortality increases. Being a callous bastard as you propose would get us nowhere. The person you replied to had a better solution though I can't tell if they were joking or not (my sarcasm meter is on the fritz).

      I think he's too busy designing ultra-thin condoms for Africa

      THIS is a much better solution! If the desired outcome is to reduce the number of children who will die of starvation or disease, and because of political reasons just throwing food and vaccines at them isn't working, then the next best approach is preventing the pregnancies in the first place. A condom is a fine way to do this. Throw a good helping of Nature's best medicine -education- on top of that and progress will be made. It actually can be a win-win for all concerned. We stop the suffering of others (especially the children!), we reduce or eliminate the problem of having kids one cannot support, overall health and quality of life will go up, and to appease you racist fuckers there will be fewer brown people around since instead of having 20 kids they only have 2 or 3. You can have a heart full of hate or a heart full of love and nothing I wrote above sounds bad. It's good for everyone.

      I will also point out that the solution to your problem, the hateful racism eating away at your being, is also EXACTLY the same! Contraceptives and education. We reduce the chances for you to spread your malformed genes and with education, you can stop fearing the unknown and passing that message onto the kids you do have. A WIN-WIN AGAIN!

    5. Re:here's a suggestion by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

      Could the second coming of Bill Gates be as monumentally transformative for MS as the second coming of Steve Jobs was for Apple? Or would it epically fail like most of Gates's attempts to be like Jobs? I doubt Gates would want to take that risk.

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      "Molest me not with this pocket calculator stuff."
      - Deep Thought
    6. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      let B.G. become CEO again. founders are a better choice (as a rule, which means it also has exceptions ofc)

      We already had that discussion here:

      Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:4, Interesting)
      by FatLittleMonkey (1341387) on Friday July 01, @08:19AM (#36632230)
      I wonder what would happen to Microsoft's share price if Gates himself stepped back into the role?

      Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:1)
      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01, @08:42AM (#36632400)

      The same thing what happened to Micheal Schumacher as he returned to F1 ? (aka. disaster)
      Reply to This Parent

              Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:2)
              by rbrausse (1319883) on Friday July 01, @08:49AM (#36632462)

              it worked for Apple, you can find existing examples for every possible outcome (rule 34 of business-leadership :))

                      Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:2)
                      by Machtyn (759119) on Friday July 01, @09:28AM (#36632780) Homepage
                      Yes, but where does this rule fall in the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?

    7. Re:here's a suggestion by fnj · · Score: 2

      Except for the BULLSHIT MINDLESS charge of racism, which you have absolutely no foundation for and contributes nothing, that is a damn good thoughtful reply to a post which also made me think.

    8. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree with GP, but this argument is pointless because

      1. The average African (AA) have not seen those "food and vaccines" that you are talking about.
      2. The AA will never see those "extra-thin condoms" that BG is designing.
      2a. - If the AA is lucky to get a box of them in his lifetime, that will not not change any significant digits in population growth.
      3. Why is it your goal to control their population in the first place? If this is what they wanted they would control their own population by the magical "pull out" method and/or reading Slashdot. Just give them OLPCs or something.

      There is a dogma that Christians have that one must help the poor. Nobody ever questions it. I have never seen a sound justification for it.
      Every day I pass by this beautiful church, with a statue of a begging homeless person in front of it, and a few real homeless people begging/sleeping right next to the statue. It is extremely cold outside. If your dogma is to help the homeless, why not let them in your empty luxury building to sleep in warmth? Why build a multi-bullion worship house in the middle of Manhattan when 70% of that money could be used to sustain the homeless, maybe even help some recover?

    9. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      every day i pass that statue and leave the poor homeless guy to freeze to death. I am in such a rush to get home and critisize someone else i have forgotton to remove the log from my own eye

    10. Re:here's a suggestion by Zynder · · Score: 2

      I have 2 reasons to play the race card here. 1) It was a one-liner AC comment. They are almost always racist, insulting, or just downright vile. I've got precedence on my side. Should the AC like to refute that claim, I'll listen. 2) We were talking about Africa and immediately we got someone who pops up and just wants us to let them die. I'm from the South. I know racism. It's like a nasty fart on the porch in August. It's always there lingering but no one will take responsibility for it. My personal experience says when people start talking like the AC did, it's inevitable that it devolves into the obvious racism you envision but didn't see. It's kind of like a Godwin rule. And finally 3) It was an AC trollin. Can't I troll back?

      So to sum it up we have 2 weapons we use in the fight against Trolls: Precedence, Inference, and an almost fanatical use of Hyperbole. No wait. Amongst our weaponry are such elements as Precedence, Inference,...I'll come back in

      :D

    11. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He should have applied that principle to Windows.

    12. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know stupidity and racism go hand in hand...

      Way to look down on about 92% of the world, white supremacist white boy.

    13. Re:here's a suggestion by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      The only weapon to use against trolls is to ignore them. They do it for attention. Responding to them just feeds them and they win.

      YHBT YHL HAND.

    14. Re:here's a suggestion by mcswell · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't know anything about that church, but I know our church (in Maryland) does exactly that during the winter, along with a number of other churches in the area--each church takes a week. They drive the homeless to and from where ever they are during the day (some of the churches are out in the country), and provide breakfast.

    15. Re:here's a suggestion by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 1

      Birth control and education are some of the major problems he's addressing, and that doesn't lead to more starving, suffering kids.

      But that'd be less souls for Jesus. What will all those fat white missionaries do?

    16. Re:here's a suggestion by Zynder · · Score: 2

      YHBT YHL HAND

      Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?

    17. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jimmy Carter is a goddamn fuckwit. No one should give a rat's ass what that moron thinks. He thought the religious nutcases in Iran would be better to deal with than the Shah and would have a better human rights view because they were "men of God". Instead of just jailing & beating people, they just fucking slaughtered them and set back the work that had been done to create a modern secular society in Iran...not unlike what has happened across the top of Africa.

    18. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they'll use the condoms for more pressing concerns like waterproofing the roof.

    19. Re:here's a suggestion by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Funny

      Could the second coming of Bill Gates be as monumentally transformative for MS as the second coming of Steve Jobs was for Apple? Or would it epically fail like most of Gates's attempts to be like Jobs? I doubt Gates would want to take that risk.

      Why funny you should ask that.

      As I will be the second in command I look forward to exciting times at Microsoft!

      First things first yes I am better and my ego needs to be fed. I will do so by executing the following. Back in the good old days things worked best when I made them as proprietary as possible. I started making Xenix as non compatible as possible with Unix so the users can blame all the other unix vendors and programmers rather than me. I also had pure joy almost to an orgasmic sense with IE and using Word and Excel file formats as well to make them not work with anything else.

      Balmer fucked up! First off IE works too well with standards recently. Before we know it we will have the communist and socialist unAmerican elements of the W3C tell us how to develop web pages!! Full alarm! Windows 7 just works and besides the gui in Windows 8 it is light and fast and can run on even a crappy ARM qualcomm very efficiently :-(

      The next phase will introduce the following:
      1. Documents will overwrite by default with autosave after each character. Grandma will appreciate this and we want to make this easy
      2. No desktop. Multitasking is sooo 1990s. Multitasking in Metro will mean you need to go full screen and lose whatever you have in front of you and go closed door syndrome after ribbon. Since users only do one task at a time we will make Windows 9 have buttons where each ribbon should be and using rote memory will take up the whole screen and cover the document for each option etc.
      3. IE will need to invent their own standards and stop supporting conditional statements for different browsers. :-( Webmasters how dare you write for other browsers! If you only wrote to our own DRM specificed CSS and XML (html is too opened) completed with binary encodings you will not have this problem. Webmasters you have a chose. 90% of all desktop users or socialist freeware browsers? I think you know which one you will choose. ... and they tell me people use this foxfire thingie since I left CEO?!
      4. Make word documents and our new language which is called C++ but will be totally different to encourage high cost and rewrites for porting mac and linux apps (sucks to be them hahah) used to make xml with binary encodings for internet pages. I mean executing code as administrator on all sites from God knows whom?? What could possible go wrong!!!
      5. Man Windows was such as fine elegantly engineered and gorgeous product compared to the Mac back in the 1980s I could not possible see why no one would want to switch to this. I mean look at marketshare. I am sure the same truths hold sway today as people are gobling up Windows Phones and tablets because the brand is so well known.
      6. Windows 9 certification will require signed operating systems and DRM executables to run. I can permit Linux apps if they are signed with the Windows Store and run as an applet in the new Metro 2.0 interface with HyperV. All the geeks on slashdot will be cheering and moaning my name for this. Just you see.

      Thanks for your interest.

    20. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he's too busy designing ultra-thin condoms for Africa - a way more important job in the grand scheme of things for humanity.

      You sure about that? He's one of the people who thinks circumcision is a cure for AIDS. Who needs condoms when you can just cut off a natural part of the body!

    21. Re:here's a suggestion by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Try this: Change "African" to "trailer park resident" and watch all those "let 'em die for all I care" sentiments pile up on the best kind of Progressive websites. Calling it racism is just playing the race card.

      The "do nothing" argument is because no matter how much money we throw at the problem, it never ever gets better. If any progress was admitted, then the sense of crisis would ease and everyone would think they didn't have to give more money. This would obviously have a negative effect of the budgets of NGOs that make money from African problems.

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    22. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh why won't somebody else take responsibility for solving this problem?

      (captcha was 'ruefully'...)

    23. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "do nothing" argument is because no matter how much money we throw at the problem, it never ever gets better.

      Except that it has been getting measurably better. Please educate yourself before opening your mouth.

    24. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A freakin PAKI in charge hopefully this is the final fling ..

    25. Re:here's a suggestion by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Excellent! Then we can reduce the amount of money spent, because they obviously don't need it any more. What's that you say? Not an option? Error...error...logic error...does not compute...

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    26. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every day I pass by this beautiful church, with a statue of a begging homeless person in front of it, and a few real homeless people begging/sleeping right next to the statue. It is extremely cold outside. If your dogma is to help the homeless, why not let them in your empty luxury building to sleep in warmth? Why build a multi-bullion worship house in the middle of Manhattan when 70% of that money could be used to sustain the homeless, maybe even help some recover?

      You should help the poor because when you raise their standard of living, you raise everyone's standard of living. How many rich kids do you know of that commit petty crimes like robbery, arson, theft, vandalism? How many kids grow up into poverty because they couldn't afford to goto school and to actually study for grades? How many kids end up in gangs because the parents are either not around or are too far gone into self-pity that they have no initiative to parent their kids?

    27. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What led to the problems in Africa to begin with? Wasn't imperialism partially responsible for it? You know, wish cash crops and such.

    28. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why aren't you taking the homeless guy home to crash on your couch you fucking hypocrite? And I sincerly doubt the worship house is a "multi-billion (dollar)" building. hahaha

    29. Re:here's a suggestion by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Why do people keep trying to sustain the population that they can't sustain themselves?

      I don't think I personally know your mother, so I can't be sure, but if I had to guess it would be a mix of paternal love and a hope that you'll eventually grow up and turn the energy you use for "edgy" shitposting into finding an actual job.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    30. Re:here's a suggestion by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      how many poor kids do you know f that commit white-collar crimes like fraud, financial rigging, insider trading?

      How many of them end up with no social conscience because the parents were either not around or too far gone into self-obsession that they have no initiative to parent their kids?

      See, rich kids have it hard too.:-)

    31. Re:here's a suggestion by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you have just applied Morton's Fork to the situation. In reality there's a gap between "not helping" and "we're done".

      This is like not saving for retirement at 62 after working since 22 since at age 42 you can't retire yet so savings obviously isn't working.

      Also, I've literally never seen an argument for letting trailer park residents starve to death, but I have no doubt that you can find morons that think that -- and that doesn't support your argument *at all*, first because in that case, they are being classist, and second because you can find all kinds of unicorns and they don't disprove the herd of horses. Also, I don't think they are starving to death, at least not in US trailer parks, so it's not a parallel situation.

    32. Re:here's a suggestion by Mabhatter · · Score: 1

      he doesn't know anything about modern computing. He can't even demo his own products successfully, which shows he just doesn't give a damn. He was good at "business" of beating up other companies and Canoodling government and enterprise bosses.

      He's also spend decades selling down to only a few percent of Microsoft ownership. He's still the "biggest" owner but not by much. He needs to "go away" and let the company do it's thing. His time is past. He should have got his nose out a decade ago and allowed Ballmer to fail hard. he's just a doddering old grandpa that won't let the sons run the family business correctly.

    33. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How many rich kids do you know of that commit petty crimes like robbery, arson, theft, vandalism?"
      Umm, Justin Beiber.

    34. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All reasons why I just bought a new Mac for the first time. Really revealing when you consider that I've been in the IT field for over twenty years.

    35. Re:here's a suggestion by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      In reality there's a gap between "not helping" and "we're done".

      Yes, it's called "reduce" or did you not read that part and jumped to a conclusion that supported your pre-existing mental state?

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      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    36. Re:here's a suggestion by Darby · · Score: 1

      Using multiple different meanings of the word "fuck". I'm not sure how "bareback" would work in some of the non-literal uses of "fuck".

      Maybe "without a reach around"?

      That just screams asshole in all contexts.

    37. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, I did mention that I disagree with that dogma, in the first sentence, look:

      I agree with GP

      who said

      If we just let all the Africans starve, maybe they wouldn't keep having hundreds of kids they don't have food and water for.

      Also, I am not Christian (not into an imaginary deity overall).

      Despite that, IF (I had an empty billion-dollar building in Manhattan) AND (my slogan was to help the poor) THEN I would sure as hell let them sleep inside.

    38. Re: here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, why don't we? I grew up in a commie dictatorship state but we did not have homeless sleeping on the street. Maybe we should learn something from the Socialism like most of Europe did, instead of entrusting care for the unfortunate to religious organizations?

    39. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Sorry I was misunderstood. My point was that I disagree with the dogma of helping the poor overall, it is invented by the church but there is no sound logic behind it, to the extent that the church itself fails to follow their own dogma. It's like they teach "do not kill" while organising Crusaders to the Eastern Europe.

      Despite that, thousands of Christians rush to help the poor in Africa every year because of this ideology that was taught to them and they don't quite understand why.

    40. Re:here's a suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have 2 reasons to play the race card here. 1) It was a one-liner AC comment. They are almost always racist, insulting, or just downright vile.

      ACs are AC not - in general - to spew racist BS (whether or not that other AC did...).

      The reasons for being AC include:

      1) Too lazy to login or register

      2) Not posting from a secure vantage

      3) Too stupid to login or register

      4) Not wanting to link posts to the same identity.

      5) Not agreeing to the ToS or so-called Privacy Policy. Everyone logged in and in the US faces a federal crime if they have failed to:

      "(a) provide accurate, current, and complete information about yourself as prompted by our registration form (including your e-mail address) and (b) to maintain and update your information (including your e-mail address) to keep it accurate, current, and complete."
      http://slashdotmedia.com/terms...

      So using a throw away email address (and throwing it away - abandoning) is a federal crime here. Might as well have a "real name" policy.

      3) It was an AC trollin. Can't I troll back?

      You can. I can't stop you from being a troll.

    41. Re:here's a suggestion by Darby · · Score: 1

      Why aren't you taking the homeless guy home to crash on your couch you fucking hypocrite?

      Given the fact that OP hasn't made his way in the world by asserting his moral supremacy he's not actually a hypocrite.

      You, on the other hand are defending hypocrites. Kiddy fucking hypocrites.

    42. Re:here's a suggestion by Douglas+Goodall · · Score: 1

      That is a bit extreme, don't you think?

  2. I'll vote for him by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If he brings back the start button.

    1. Re:I'll vote for him by JDG1980 · · Score: 2

      Since enterprise support was a major part of his division (certainly much more profitable than the fledgling cloud services) perhaps he will. Enterprises, of course, are not at all thrilled with Win8/Metro.

    2. Re:I'll vote for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just don't like chaaaaaaange!

    3. Re:I'll vote for him by neminem · · Score: 1

      That would be pretty cool. Maybe then he'd also lobby for bringing back the non-retarded search interface from Win2k (that was available by a registry tweak in XP, byt not since).

    4. Re:I'll vote for him by gigaherz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... the start button has been in 8.1 since it was released some months ago. I'd prefer if he brought back also the start MENU, and Aero. My computer is not a tablet, it does not need features designed for touch-screen, or removed to "improve battery life", so I will not install an OS that treats it like one.

    5. Re:I'll vote for him by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Possibly Nadella could bring interesting novelties at MS, thanks to his former position at Sun MS (Microsystems), his cloud work at MS and his Tim Cook look. That seems to be a wise choice.

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    6. Re:I'll vote for him by Zynder · · Score: 1

      I don't search much and it's been awhile since I fired up XP. Could you elaborate on what you mean regarding the "non-retarded" search function? As I recall it had a pop out side bar with Clippy reincarnated as a dog. It asked you dumb things and had the options in the list that were useless so you always had to click the Advanced Search link. I can't even remember what W2K looks like anymore so I've no idea what its search did.

    7. Re:I'll vote for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also he should bring back that Add Fonts dialog box that survived from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I have MINUTES invested in training on that dialog.

    8. Re:I'll vote for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It was sort of like that, except all the advanced options were just available to start with, and there was no clippy. You could just pick exactly what you wanted to search for and type it in, and it would search. Also it didn't look like a cartoon. But what it *did* do was search exactly what you would expect it to, and not your whole computer and only certain file types unless you waited for the search to complete and then override it with "yes I *do* know what I'm doing, I'm not an idiot". (XP search behaved intelligently in that regard, it was just dumb in other ways. I'm referring to Win7/8 search.)

    9. Re:I'll vote for him by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Actually, the most important he needs to do . . . is to toss out all the Ballmer "yes-men" executives. I have the feeling that Ballmer will still try to micromanage Microsoft from the outside . . . even though he will no longer be the CEO.

      He still will be an influential voice on the Microsoft board of directors, or is he leaving the board . . . ?

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    10. Re:I'll vote for him by mcswell · · Score: 1

      One word for you: Edsel.

    11. Re:I'll vote for him by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      That would be pretty cool. Maybe then he'd also lobby for bringing back the non-retarded search interface from Win2k (that was available by a registry tweak in XP, byt not since).

      You mean like hitting the Windows Key and typing whatever you want while the results come back instantly without that annoying dog diggings and taking a crap while c:\ is slowly indexed each and every time?

    12. Re:I'll vote for him by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Also he should bring back that Add Fonts dialog box that survived from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I have MINUTES invested in training on that dialog.

      Sigh if only I had mod points on that one.

    13. Re:I'll vote for him by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      If he brings back the start button.

      So he doesn't have to do anything? The Start Button is already back in Windows 8.1.

    14. Re:I'll vote for him by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Someone else already pointed out that I really mean the start menu.

    15. Re:I'll vote for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever they mean by the "mini Start Menu" is already slated to come by windows 9 (April 2015) or before. Hopefully before since they are choosing to enable boot to desktop as the default, Pinning metro apps to the taskbar and adding traditional close X in the metro apps (rumor in update 1, April 2014). It seems like with the old windows team out that they are making things more desktop friendly. With them using the same language as the windows phone releases and having the windows phone now in charge maybe they will have additional update between April 2014 and April 2015. Between large releases on WP8 there were 3 small updates. Personally I like the the start screen vs the menu but the other changes can't come fast enough. the biggest thing to bug me is having the charms bar come up when you are on the desktop. Thankfully in 8.1 you can minimize that but I think they should make an option to only have that turned on when using the start screen or metro apps.... Anyone now of any utilities that would do that?

  3. Meh... by jddeluxe · · Score: 1

    Who cares? I'm more interested in the rumors that they are scheming to oust Bill Gates as Chairman...

    1. Re:Meh... by Zynder · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the plot for a new reality TV show: Rascals of Redmond TONIGHT on A&E!

    2. Re:Meh... by lgw · · Score: 1

      I can't believe that Bill gates would lose that job against his will (he might be ready to focus fully on his charity, though). He just has too much stock, too many ties to other long-timers who also control %s, and is just too practiced in Microsoft-specific infighting.

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  4. Another MS inbred by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay, another inbred Microsoftie. Means nothing will change and the company will continue its long slow slide into oblivion.

  5. Moving away from consumer products by metlin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought Microsoft was trying to re-brand itself as a devices and services player. So, what does it mean when they bring on board a technical, enterprise guy as the CEO?

    To me, it would seem that they're ignoring everything Apple has taught the industry -- usability, good design, and marketing.

    Instead, they'll become the next IBM and be a large behemoth who just does enterprise tech "stuff".

    Quite sad. And I'm pretty sure eventually they'll eventually spin off their Xbox division.

    1. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "This Swiss army knife sucks because the blade is not as sharp or long as this one". Apple and Microsoft are different platforms; not every problem has a simple or elegant solution. Question: What would Mac be if Microsoft didn't release Office for Mac?

      IBM Failed because they sold their business units one by one to China and without the hardware sales, they couldn't push software and services; companies wanted a complete package. HP, Dell, Acer, they all did the same thing. Management sold the companies down the river.

      MS has lost no ground on the enterprise front; part of that is closing technet and training people to use Azure cloud for labs, thus conditioning a new generation of no-nothing idiots as sales people while at the same time alienating long-term Microsoft zealots. Their development pace has picked up to such a speed that certs are now created, offered, and die before school curriculum can be put together and taught. Tech-net is effectively killing "hiring for the skill" for MS.

      Building a walled garden has alienated the ecosystem they once relied upon; that ecosystem is now in full revolt. Mobile Entertainment killed using windows for Entertainment. Now companies are building purpose-built linux VM's to run their games. That trend will spread into enterprise applications, eventually.

    2. Re:Moving away from consumer products by zifferent · · Score: 3, Informative

      Seriously, if you think MySQL is anywhere near as scalable as MS SQL, you are delusional. I've used all of the database softwares out there and only MS SQL is standard, scalable and fast, Oracle is scalable and fast but not standard by a long shot, killing productivity. MySQL is neither fast, scalable nor standard. I really don't understand what anyone sees in that piece of shit when at the very least they can have PostgreSQL which excels on all accounts and is open sourced. I blame popularity contests.

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    3. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've used all of the database softwares out there and only MS SQL is standard, scalable and fast

      MS SQL is a fork of Sybase.

    4. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Sybase ASE and MS SQL Server have not really been all that close since... a long time.

      Oracle is scalable and powerful, and is its own standard, just given the number of Oracle shops. Kind of like DB2 is its own standard, if only because it runs on a variety of platforms, including IBM's mainframes and AS400s.

    5. Re:Moving away from consumer products by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Like Yogi Berra said, when you see a fork, take it.

    6. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Nivag064 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since 2004, I have done 4 extensive searches on the Internet to look for valid comparisons between MySQL & PostgreSQL.

      Each, and every time, PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org) came out ahead, in all areas that concern me - such as:
      (1) Performance
      (2) Reliability
      (3) Scalability in terms of the database size
      (4) Ease of installation & configuration
      (5) Ease of developing SQL queries

      And of course, it runs well on Linux!

      I have a client that uses MySQL, and I did some DBA work & development on a major Java project that used MySQL.

      So I would recommend PostgreSQL as being suitable for many projects. However, you should always check what a particular project needs, rather than assume one particular DB is best for it!

    7. Re:Moving away from consumer products by JDG1980 · · Score: 2

      MySQL is neither fast, scalable nor standard. I really don't understand what anyone sees in that piece of shit when at the very least they can have PostgreSQL which excels on all accounts and is open sourced. I blame popularity contests.

      People use MySQL because it's very easy to get it running and integrated with PHP quickly on a cheap cpanel-based Linux host. For smaller websites, it's adequate. The problem comes when a startup website using MySQL becomes the next big thing – both Wikipedia and Facebook have had to deal with serious scalability issues as a result of this..

    8. Re:Moving away from consumer products by bmajik · · Score: 2

      Bingo.

      I had developed on MySQL, Sybase, and Oracle professionally before I was exposed to MS SQL server.

      SQL server is no joke. It gives you most of the enterprise features and power of Oracle, with none of the obtuse awful crap of Oracle. Even installing Oracle is a disaster.

      The tools for SQL server are miles ahead of anything else, and incomparably better than what you can easily find for MySQL.

      SQL server hits the sweet spot of being easy to use, easy to install, full featured, and very powerful. It's also free to develop against. You pay when you go into production.

      If you're not going to buy a commercial DB software, Postgres is the most like a "real" DBMS. The problem is that so many FOSS packages really expect you to use MySQL, but if you're used to working with "real" DBMS software MySQL just feels so different.

      IMO, MySQL has survived because of the price, and because many people don't have especially interesting database needs.

      One thing that windows has that Linux lacks is credible ODBC type functionality. In an ideal world, a Linux package that needed a SQL database underneath could swap out MySQL,postgres, or whatever with just changing a runtime configuration string, and perhaps optionally re-running a schema-gen and data-loading script.

      In practice, making a package or library that was written for MySQL work against anything else is just pure suffering.

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    9. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been an MSSQL DBA for two years and can attest to its excellence however the MSSQL databases that they have are at their limit and they want more without paying for licenses. The desire to move some of their storage needs to MySQL was because one of the head developers used to work for Google and they have made MySQL do some incredible scaling, all I can say at this moment is that I can't even assure moment in time disaster recovery for a individual schema (database in MSSQL terms) because if you were to replay the binary logs specifying a schema it would only return the transactions where the requested database was in use (so if a person made a change to a table in another schema than was selected by giving the full path to the table in the schema being restored the log wouldn't return that result). I may be able to do it by returning the whole servers binary log to a flat file and then parsing that using some Bash/Python/Perl magic but it seems like such a trivial thing it should be available with the installation.

    10. Re:Moving away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "everything Apple has taught the industry -- usability, good design, and marketing" Lol.
      You've GOT to be kidding. Well..., I guess one of the three above applies: Marketing.

      In terms of usability, Winphone 7/8 are far ahead of the now-outdated Apple approach (but the latest IOS release sure does try hard to be Metro-esque), and Android suffers from the same clutter and resource-suck issues - PLUS all the mfgr fragmentation that adds bloat and duplication for every service on the phone.
      Yet they are both vastly more popular than winphone - to the point that an entire BYOD-spawned MDM industry has sprung up and cost billions to (poorly) implement these CONSUMER devices and their tablet analogues in the Enterprise. Forget the fact that neither are particularly secure platforms - or that BYOD being forced on the enterprise has basically undone decades of security standards adoption in business, and the fact that both are great for Angry Birds - and try to think what makes them so darn popular?

      Good Design? (Design standards for Android? Seriously? Nice one.) Fragmentation and the subsequent mish-mash of hardware and OS versions are the #1 stumbing block to widespread adoption in the business world - so says the head of Android himself.
      Apple had slick design once, no doubt. Their obsession with appearance trumped everything - even the engineering of a phone that you could actually hold in your hand and talk with. Siri is the same voice command crap as everyone else had years before - given a catchy name. Anyone of reasonable intelligence should be able to look at an ipad and just KNOW that you can't replace every PC tomorrow in your large enterprise with one of these. (I say "should".) And no, ipods didn't invent portable electronic music. Mp3 and players of various low and high quality were around for a decade at least before the White Elephants appeared on the scene - yet many people today still believe that they need an iPod to listen to electronic music.
      Even on tech sites like this one, people continually bash MSoft for being proprietary while somehow forgetting that apple is the proprietary king of all. (itunes, anyone? What's that? You'd love to sync your phone to your own network THROUGH our servers? ok!). Quality? Drop an iphone from 4 ft off the ground on to a soft carpet.. then go buy another iphone.

      Leading us to ...
      Marketing. Apple marketing is second to none.
      They've overcome every design flaw and issue with their overpriced hardware, pooh-poohed the many limitations, security shortfalls, and compatibility nightmares by painting the merits with a glossy brush (your employees like to carry them and they look shiny), and taken many an exec on a free lunch to basically convince the world that they are THE electronics company. That anything they make MUST be the best, that a stylized apple logo justifies the ridiculous prices they charge for often inferior products that don't work outside their own ecosystem.
      They've proven that you can convince the wolves to be sheep, and that snake-oil sales is alive and well.
      (Oh, and tax evasion. Also a fun pastime at the ol fruit factory.)

      So maybe look into the Microsoft futures for business in a different light. Blackberry built out from a business-only device mfgr to consumer acceptance (a bad idea in their case, admittedly), largely based on their security and then familiarity from the workplace. Winphone quietly received all the same gov't level security and encryption standards rating short of DoD in the Fall. DoD rating will likely follow shortly. Don't be surprised to see Gov't and Enterprise looking for a BBerry replacement in Microsoft's direction. Oh, and their mobile platform (with a yet-tiny market share, although loved by most who use it - especially for business) and peripheral/crossover device offerings (yeah the surface was flawed, but gen 2 is better, and the next should progress as well) all interconnect well with existing Business and Enterprise needs, products, software, standards, an

  6. Trend? by Compuser · · Score: 2

    Seems like tech companies are trending towards ultraslim CEOs. Like literally dudes who look like they just stepped out of a concentration camp. I blame Apple :)

    1. Re:Trend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chairman Air

    2. Re:Trend? by sydneyfong · · Score: 1

      An improvement from the "Chair in the Air" days, I suppose?

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    3. Re:Trend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as someone who does work for Microsoft and in the Satya org: every time I've seen him speak, including back to the first time soon after he took over the (then) STB org, he has always struck me as someone with the same presentation style as Steve Jobs.

      Though at last check, no one at Microsoft has yet achieved a Windows/.NET compatible reality distortion field that Apple & SteveJ were so well known for.

  7. How to break the ice by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    Give the users what they want on the desktop. Give them what they loved about Windows 7 back and give it them for free. Maybe go so far as to offer a free copy of the previous version of Office to everyone who suffered through Windows 8.1 or 8.0.

    1. Re:How to break the ice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope. Cloud guy is going to bring you "Windows as-a-service". First 2 years free updates, then PAY UP!

    2. Re:How to break the ice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MS gives corp. network admins what they want on the desktop, not users. The schizophrenia regarding whether to be a thin or thick client in a corporate LAN arrangement continues unabated.

    3. Re:How to break the ice by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Give the users what they want on the desktop. Give them what they loved about Windows 7 back and give it them for free. Maybe go so far as to offer a free copy of the previous version of Office to everyone who suffered through Windows 8.1 or 8.0.

      Well if leaked screenshots of Windows 8.1 update 1 are true as well as the boot to desktop which every tech site but slashdot mentioned is coming I would say MS is doing just that.

      AngelWZR leaked Windows 8.1 screenshots too before other betas hit the web and is fairly reputable. That screenshot looked almost identical to Windows 7 but with the metro apps acting like regular applications in it.

    4. Re:How to break the ice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Cloud guy is going to bring you "Windows as-a-service". First 2 years free updates, then PAY UP!

      Well, that seems like it would be uncontroversial...

    5. Re:How to break the ice by JDG1980 · · Score: 0

      Well if leaked screenshots of Windows 8.1 update 1 are true [twitter.com] as well as the boot to desktop which every tech site but slashdot mentioned is coming I would say MS is doing just that.

      Still no confirmation on a return of the real Start Menu. Still no return of Aero Glass transparency. Still no option to left-justify the title bar text, as was done on every OS from Win95 to Win7.

      I don't care about the ability to run Metro apps in a window, since I don't ever want to see or interact with any Metro apps at all.

    6. Re:How to break the ice by JDG1980 · · Score: 1

      MS gives corp. network admins what they want on the desktop, not users.

      If that were true, we would never have gotten Windows 8.

  8. Look on the bright side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the rats have jumped ship!

    And

    In ten years, there is no Micro-Soft!

    So

    Hellayouyeah!

  9. Sad to see Microsoft just give-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Picking this guys shows the board doesn't have any plan on saving the company.

  10. Re: Microsoft is dead by Scowler · · Score: 1

    Look how profitable they were last quarter. Mighty fine corpse, eh?

  11. It is a cost cutting measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He will get H1B salary.

    1. Re:It is a cost cutting measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You realize that at a company like Microsoft, where salaries are managed from the top down... H1Bs not only tend to make the same as natural born American employees.. but can actually cost more as it is usually the sponsoring company who pays for the lawyers & paperwork & fees to get an H1B visa for the eventual employee, right?

      The above being said by a white, natural born American who works at a high tech company who is one of those who is attacked for using H1Bs, and who detests racists like you who constantly scream "Dey turk err jurbs!"

    2. Re:It is a cost cutting measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that at a company like Microsoft, where salaries are managed from the top down... H1Bs not only tend to make the same as natural born American employees.. but can actually cost more as it is usually the sponsoring company who pays for the lawyers & paperwork & fees to get an H1B visa for the eventual employee, right?

      The above being said by a white, natural born American who works at a high tech company who is one of those who is attacked for using H1Bs, and who detests racists like you who constantly scream "Dey turk err jurbs!"

      I don't believe that statement for the simple reason that all big companies are about PROFIT. Paying for more expensive employees cuts into PROFIT. PROFIT is the be-all and end-all of big/multi-national corporations. Unless I have missed one of them saying "we are targeting to only break-even for the next few years." If big companies really cared about employees then yearly raises would be automatic, and there would be not talk of sharing the costs of benefits. No anti-poaching agreements behind closed doors would ever exist. As I have said before, mandate ALL H1B holders have a $500,000 salary minimum and no movement restrictions. Then you will see if the H1B program is really about the "best and brightest", and not cost savings.

    3. Re:It is a cost cutting measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PROFIT is the be-all and end-all of big/multi-national corporations

      Mostly, though not actually necessarily. It would be for Microsoft sure.

      If big companies really cared about employees then yearly raises would be automatic,

      Yearly raises are automatic at these companies (maybe the bottom X% might not get a raise).

      No anti-poaching agreements behind closed doors would ever exist.

      Those are illegal, but it's harder to prove those illegal deals happen than getting salary underpaid. The thing with salary is it's quantitative and the government already has that data. You can still fuck around with it, but it's really hard when you have tens of thousands of US employees as the basis for comparison like these big companies do, and the requirements of the H1B make their salaries known. A large corporation with lots of US employees like Microsoft *cannot hide H1B fraud*.

      And don't think for one moment that an H1B employee who was getting screwed wouldn't stick their middle finger up at Microsoft and engage in a lawsuit if they weren't getting paid what their peers were. You know how many of them are Canadian (and thus they are not from a poor country, but one where they can reasonable expect to get a similar job at a similar rate of pay back home, and are hired in numbers because the countries are really close)?

      I hold an H1B, they pay the costs for the visa, and my I am paid > 160k per year per my tax return, base salary as would be shown on such a site would be > 130k per year. They continue the process until you have a green card. I think one huge thing you're missing is that the green card process is broken, and the H1B is the patch. You can fix the green card process and then the H1B cap nattering will vanish overnight.

      As I have said before, mandate ALL H1B holders have a $500,000 salary minimum and no movement restrictions.

      A 500k salary minimum doesn't mean you want the best and brightest, it means you don't want anybody. Just say what you mean. I would agree on eliminating movement restrictions though, that is better for everybody.

      Just look it up here. This stuff is a matter of public record: http://www.h1bwage.com/index.p.... Search Microsoft, look at the job titles, consider that the vast majority are located in Redmond (much lower cost of living than Silicon Valley or New York, higher than flyover country).

    4. Re:It is a cost cutting measure by InfiniteLoopCounter · · Score: 1

      You realize that at a company like Microsoft, where salaries are managed from the top down... H1Bs not only tend to make the same as natural born American employees.. but can actually cost more as it is usually the sponsoring company who pays for the lawyers & paperwork & fees to get an H1B visa for the eventual employee, right?

      You are thinking small scale. It's not about the cost to a small company or department. H1Bs threaten to lower wages across the board due to plentiful competition, less ability to move to another company, and allowing company HR to threaten someone else taking your job. Some of the savings then go to board members of large corporations, to political lobbying, and to shareholder profits.

  12. peace comes to microsoft by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 0

    all the chairs at microsoft are taking a sigh of relief.

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  13. They should move away from consumer products by mbkennel · · Score: 4, Insightful


    "pivot to Devices and Services" -- That's Ballmerese for "doubling down on your core incompetencies"

    Why is Microsoft trying so hard to compete against highly capable Apple and Google? It's a symptom of 15 years of typical Ballmerist "ooh, shiny.. gimme! I want one too!!!"?

    They just aren't institutionally set up to do so.

    Plan for incoming Microsoft CEO:

    0) Assume your predecessor was wrong about everything until proven otherwise.

    1) Halt the re-org until you know what you're doing.

    2) in addition to "Devices and Services", how about, uh, ***Business Software***???? Now that I work in a mid-large company there is all sorts of ugly and junky application software whose capabilities and quality makes Microsoft Office seem like, oh, a properly-working HAL 9000.

    Instead of throwing themselves up in a pathetic siege against highly capable, wealthy and motivated, Apple and Google, why not shoot for a much softer target: Oracle (other than the relational database). People hate them more than Microsoft and their products are poor.

    Microsoft's primary focus should be "Diversified Business Software": there is a large range of software across many areas with much lower existing standard capability and quality than in the consumer market. MS has the scale to attack this heavily, could actually be good here, and make money consistently.

    3) Windows. Oy vey. Microsoft will remain a primary business software company forever. Deal with it. So, a plan.

    * Release Windows 7.5, backporting all the internal improvements of the Win 8 series which can fit, keeping the Win 7 interface. Expect all your business to upgrade to this, and skip Win 8. It will be the new XP, and you'll support it for at least a decade. Deal with it.

    * Release Windows 8.5 with slightly-less bogosity, and lower your expectations.

    * Much more seriously, go to the Research group and academia and work exceptionally hard to make a truly great, innovative, non-touch desktop interface, possibly including other physical input modalities (alternate mice, hardware, who knows?) Make Windows 9 (or 10) a really big deal. Not different for merely the sake of difference, but unmistakably GOOD. Recognize the physical realities of the world and humans.

    1. Re:They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re: business software... I hope you're not comparing things with SAP, Oracle (PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, etc). Microsoft does have its stable of small-medium business software too (NAVision, which is now Dynamics)... Because Microsoft's products, while limited, have just as many pain points. Integrates with SharePoint? Uh... OK. You run with that.

    2. Re: They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your last point. This is what they've *been* working on for the last *ten years*. The product of billions of R&D and acquisition?

      Surface, Kinect, and Windows RT.

      Who's gonna stick out another ten?

    3. Re: They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Kinect is basically the future of human/computer interaction right there - I'd love to have voice/gesture control of the lighting and blinds in my living room for example, and that's not even scratching the surface of what it could be used for. A few AI tweaks along the way and something like a real-life HAL 9000 isn't completely inconceivable.

      I have no idea why they're trying to get rid of them by bundling them as a 'free' game controller with the Xbox One...

    4. Re:They should move away from consumer products by lgw · · Score: 1

      1) Halt the re-org until you know what you're doing.

      That only makes sense for an outsider. If the choice is an insider, I'd assume he was driving the reorg from the beginning.

      Release Windows 7.5, backporting all the internal improvements of the Win 8 series which can fit, keeping the Win 7 interface. Expect all your business to upgrade to this, and skip Win 8. It will be the new XP, and you'll support it for at least a decade. Deal with it.

      I'm sure it will be called Windows 9 regardless, but yeah if he doesn't get that a phone needs a very different UI than a server, I'm not sure what could keep MS from arcing over into a long decline.

      Much more seriously, go to the Research group and academia and work exceptionally hard to make a truly great, innovative ...

      I haven't seen anything innovative on the UI side since Gates left. I'd love to see it again, but I suspect it would take a while to find that sort of talent again, and real managerial talent to keep whoever's currently entrenched out of the way.

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    5. Re:They should move away from consumer products by sproketboy · · Score: 1

      One of Microsofts many blunders has been discontinuing their workstation releases. After Windows 2000, they haven't released a workstation to go with their server versions. That's one big reason businesses have been balking at upgrading "consumer" OSes. Leave Windows 7, 8 etc for the consumer market and release Windows 2012/2014 Workstation!

    6. Re:They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "why not shoot for a much softer target: Oracle (other than the relational database). People hate them more than Microsoft and their products are poor."

      MS would loose hands down against Oracle almost every time.

      I work for an Oracle Platinum Partner. Im a DBA. Im an Oracle OCP. Im also a SQLServer "advanced administrator"... or as I view it an advanced clicker of my mouse.

      SQLServer is a dreadful product. They have NEVER managed to do anything sensible with lock escalation... user management... resource isolation... you name it. It's just utter shit.

      MySQL is also utter crap. Just because Oracle inherited it from SUN when they bought them out doesnt make it any better. It's total crap. Even the fundamental basics like constraint violation and read consistency dont work. It's fine for school projects and thats about it.

      Oracle RDBMS - developed by a nasty company with a nasty mindset. The product tho... is the best in the world but DOES require a good production DBA to make it run well... and keep it running well. I see many comments from people that are obvisually developers or development DBA's... casting throw away comments about tools (which are only really useful in developing a product...) that it's plain to see most people havent got a clue what they are talking about.

      There are good tools for developers for Oracle. You just usually need to pay for them. Deal with it. Stop being lazy. Learn what the database has got to offer you. Cast aside a heterogeneous mindset and take full advantage of what you paid for - Oracle RDBMS isnt cheap even in standard edition... never mind EE.

      Oracle middleware tho - thats a totally different ballgame. It's crap on every level. Weblogic is crap. Oracle APPS is crap. Service specific products - such as FlexCube - are crap. MS has near to zero market penetration in these sectors - they could conceivably design and build a product here. It's going to be very difficult tho to convince major enterprises... those with lots of money... to throw away millions of man hours already invested into customizing their products. But who knows - Oracle are so heavily disliked it might be possible.

      If I had enough money to have a portfolio other than my pension plan... :

      I could pull it all out of MS right now. The company has no products worth keeping and I only see downsizing and shrinkage of their market sector. Their Operating System is garbage (all versions). Their core business applications are either garbage (SQLServer) or have as good free alternatives (libreoffice). New markets are closed to them as noone will buy a MS product when there is an already established alternative... see Nokia. The future's not so bright...

      If I had money in Oracle Id keep it there until at least the end of the decade. After that we would need to re-evaluate. Oracle business practices are horrendous. It's borderline extortion what they do to major clients. Even tho they have by far the best RDBMS - practices they employ will only be allowed to go on for so long... the market wont take it forever. EnterpriseDB (Postgress) isnt that bad. It's not a direct replacement ... perhaps never will be... but it isnt that bad. 5 years ago I might have also touted DB2 - but that aint going to happen now. All other products are dreadful as stated above. Oracle middleware tho... they are vulnerable in that sector.

      \rant

    7. Re:They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not innovative...they've had probably too much innovation on that side.

    8. Re:They should move away from consumer products by iampiti · · Score: 1

      I vote you for Microsoft CEO. But, wait a minute...you can't be: What you say makes sense...

    9. Re:They should move away from consumer products by mbkennel · · Score: 1

      Yes, Microsoft will not be able to displace the Oracle database. That's not my plan.

      It's all the other lousy Oracle, and other enterprise vendor, software which I think Microsoft should make a go at. I am inflicted with Oracle corporate application software.

      Message: put as much serious investment there as they do with Office, instead of making a me-four tablet and phone, a me-two search engine.

      Microsoft always was, and always will be a Business Software company. It's time they got really good at it.

      Office is the only area where Microsoft has the will to lead and define, culturally, emotionally and intellectually.

    10. Re:They should move away from consumer products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should give the OS away, whether it be something you run locally or in the cloud, so that everyone has easy access to the platform. Then, like you say, build and sell application services on top of that. You are totally right, there is a ton of really crappy business software out there. Microsoft should give the tools to build such software away, and then buy the successful startups that use these tools to create quality services.

  14. Re:More or less American MS employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares?

  15. Finally by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft can Do The Needful.

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    1. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it.

    2. Re:Finally by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Please to be reverting the same if necessary and a ward point's if use full.

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  16. Re:More or less American MS employees? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    Who cares?

    Well you would care if you lost your job due to the H1B scam. After all, we have a shortage of skilled programmers in the americas right? Oh we don't...

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  17. The Enterprise? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    The enterprise remains a keyâ"perhaps the key â" customer segment for Microsoft

    Really. Microsoft abandoned the enterprise market when they released Windows 7.

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    1. Re:The Enterprise? by trparky · · Score: 1

      No, they abandoned the enterprise market when they released that train wreck known as Windows 8.

  18. So sick of this... by wbr1 · · Score: 2

    Microsoft's revenue from cloud services has grown by several billion over the past few years, so he's shown that he can expand a business.

    This only proves the person was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Sure there is some skill and intelligence involved. but sitting in a chair and filing important sounding decisions while your market and revenue grow do not always imply competence.By that logic, in some respects Ballmer is a god.

    From wikipedia:

    Under Ballmer's tenure as CEO, Microsoft's annual revenue has surged from $25 billion to $70 billion, while its net income has increased 215 percent to $23 billion, and its gross profit of 75 cents on every dollar in sales is double that of Google or International Business Machines Corp.[20] In terms of leading the company's total annual profit growth, Ballmer's tenure at Microsoft (16.4 percent) has surpassed the performances of other well-known CEOs such as General Electric's Jack Welch (11.2 percent) and IBM's Louis V. Gerstner, Jr. (2 percent).[18]

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  19. Re:More or less American MS employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somebody who doesn't bend over to Obama's speeches and cry in ecstasy?

  20. John Thompson as Chairman? by darylb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Thoughts on all of this:
    1. John Thompson (former Symantec CEO) as Chairman? Oh no. Symantec produced more steaming piles of crap called "software" than any company really has a right to. This wouldn't bode well.

    2. People can say what they want about consumer devices, but enterprise software is worth LOTS of money. Having a guy like Nadella that understands a lot of the enterprise angle running things is a good idea. Yeah, you can sell people a phone (with a final cost of some $500), and a bunch of $1 and $2 applications, and some fraction of a $50 monthly cell bill. OR, you can sell them an OS for each computer in the place at a cost of $30-$50, an indispensable office suite for $150 per seat, client licenses for file servers, active directory, databases, web servers, and the like, PLUS the costly licenses for the server software, PLUS annual maintenance. It's easy to see where the cash is, and it's not in consumer devices.

    3. I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen. As for usability, Apple is on a downward slide, IMHO. We're getting nothing but gratuitous changes in every release now, and Mavericks positively ruined an otherwise serviceable 5-year-old MacBook by destroying its performance. Windows Phone 8 is really nice, especially in the way it emphasizes the productivity uses of the phone over games and glitz. It's a lot tighter resource-wise than Android for sure.

    4. Microsoft spends like four times as much on R&D as Apple does. Apple's a rather minor player in this regard.

    I think Microsoft could be positioned for a real resurgence with the right leadership.

    1. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen

      I paid good money for a large display with high resolution. Even if it were a touchscreen, which it is not, I'd continue to use a mouse, because I don't want to see my own grubby fingerprints all over my own work.

    2. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by darylb · · Score: 1

      The nice touchscreens resist oils on fingertips. Even my low-end Inspiron 14R laptop's touchscreen doesn't need a cleaning very often. It encourages me to wash my hands after eating the french fries, too. :)

      Seriously, now that I've been using a touchscreen for a few weeks, it's WAY more natural than a mouse. Scroll bars? Feh. Reach out and touch that 3-D assembly and rotate it.

    3. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8"

      What? So, if Apple decided to put a full-screen-sized, DPI-scaled-down version of OS X onto iphones with minimal consideration for use without a mouse and keyboard, and wondered why people then hated using iPhones, "those people" would just be ignorant? After all, OS X is a great OS, why shouldn't it be great on an iPhone?

            In reality, we'd call Apple foolish (, stupid, and that version of the iPhone a failure). In precisely the same way, Windows 8 desktops are foolish (, stupid, and a failure). Also in precisely the same way, people would still buy iPhones because of the Apple's reputation and lack of knowledge about how much better it should be.

    4. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scroll bars?? Mouse users have a wheel and there's arrows too... pretty efficient. Gorilla arm while flinging? Feh.

    5. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by fnj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bullshit on the resistance to oils. There is no magic to make them go away. They can't do anything but sit there. It's just that some weirdos have hardly any oil on their skin. Probably no tears in their eyes or snot in their nose either. Fine for freaks of nature, sheesh. Not so great for the rest of us.

      As for the fat ugly finger on the display: it is about the crudest instrument that can be imagined. A mouse pointer is just a much more precise "finger" on the display, one that can't smear. Any drag or gesture you can make with your finger can be made much more precisely with a mouse, without a big hand getting in the way of visibility. It doesn't do much for two-finger gestures, but those feel as awkward as the vulcan live-long-and-prosper sign to me. I cam't do either one.

    6. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Alomex · · Score: 0, Troll

      I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen.

      Windows 8 sucks for reasons much beyond the metro interface. Here's an example: no matter what your personal settings about half of the windows updates will override them and randomly change your logon background page and the presence of the logon page itself.

      Here's another one, when you open a picture with the new built in photo app, none of the obvious commands advances you to the next picture in the file folder.

      Another one, once you set icon sizes to your own preference, every time you restart they may revert back to the original size, and then back to small size, with no apparent pattern for its change of heart.

      I can go on and on. The whole thing is a kludge.

    7. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by darylb · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but there's a difference. Compare the high-end iPhones and Galaxy devices with their oil-resistant coatings to, say, an entry level Lumia 520. (I own the latter.) The entry-level Lumia lacks the coating, and it needs a daily cleaning. My wife's iPhone 4S needs it only after a sloppy toddler coats it with spaghetti sauce or yogurt.

      You're right that gestures aren't always very precise. A finger is bigger than a 2-pixel point on an arrow driven by a mouse. Yet the touchscreen allows for direct manipulation of something. Turn here, pull that, etc. I didn't think I'd like it, but, after a couple of days, I notice that I use the mouse for (as you say) very fine work. But for other stuff -- clicking OK, or resizing a window -- the touchscreen is easier.

    8. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse).

      Protip: the whole "you're holding it wrong" trick only works for Apple products.

      How quaint of me to expect an OS that works with the interfaces that I (and billions of others) have on my current devices, rather than hypothetical interfaces on other hypothetical devices I don't have, nor do I want to have (laptop with touchscreen? no, thanks. do you have any idea how tiring it is, compared to a mouse?). How ignorant of me!

      Meanwhile, in the real world, Windows 8 is having adoption levels that make Windows Vista (FFS!) seem good in comparison. Damn, those ignorant consumers.

      Still waiting for you (or Microsoft) to educate me (and the rest of the consumers) on the wonders of Windows 8. *rolls eyes*

    9. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3. I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen.

      The base of windows 8 is great, the UI is horrible. The lack of discoverability is insane. When someone who has been using computers since the 3.0 days has to use google to find out how to restart the computer or to open up the control panel then something has gone terribly wrong. Seriously, who the hell is going to be able to discover that you can right click to bring up a menu of system configuration tools if you have the pointer in the lower right hand side of the metro screen? Or that you need to push the pointer to the right hand side to bring up a menu (which doesn't always come up) to find the button which brings up another menu to restart/turn off the computer?
      Or what about if you want to start up one of the system tools which you don't know the name of (but would know it if you saw the name)? You don't have any sort of "All Programs" menu like gnome 3 does. I didn't find any way to bring up a search dialog like the start menu in windows 7 has (which doesn't help if you don't know the name) and using explorer to dig your way through the windows directory to find something that may not even be in there anymore (they have been moving system utilities out of the windows directory and moving them into a directory under "Common Files" progressively since Vista).

      As I said to start with though, the core of Windows 8 is great, it is just the UI that sucks badly...

    10. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well if you read his comment, even in his comment he mentioned that they do not in fact resist oils since he's washing his hands more often and if there's any oil(french fries) then it's scruffy..

      he just likes his touchscreen for now, give his wrists 1.5 years..

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    11. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your analogy makes no sense. Windows 8 is not a DPI-scaled-down version of Windows on a telephone.

      Nor is it a telephone OS scaled up to a desktop. I see that claim and it's just...not. You can hate it, but that's not what it is. Just use any Windows phone and see they aren't really similar at all. The claim is so common and yet so out there that I suspect you're ignorant of what you're talking about too. The similarity they share is that they both accept touch, and they both have monochrome rectangles which hold flat glyphs as part of the main UI scheme, as opposed to the historical standard of transparent rectangles holding pseudo-3d glyphs.

      Yes, a lot of people have no used Windows 8 and complain about it anyway. I don't know what proportion.

    12. Re:John Thompson as Chairman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An informative posting listing explicit gripes with Windows 8 gets downmoderated to 0 Troll?

      Here in slashdot land even the most uninformed anti-MS rant usually gets ranked +5 Informative.

      So either there has been a sudden change of heart from the /. crowd on Microsoft or there is a batch of newly hired MS PR shills patrolling these waters.

  21. Dooooooomed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS' dominance is doomed. Free productivity offerings are quickly encircling Office which is just too damned expensive, Linux, iOS and Android are stomping Windows in terms of number of installations, more work is being done to move drivers and apps to Linux on the desktop, IIS has small market share and probably shrinking, IE's market share is shrinking, XBox One is relatively a dud, Logitech is outselling MS by a larger margin in the PC hardware accessory arena, MS has no real strategy for the smartphone or the tablet, and every other device or idea they generate seems to fail, like that shitty digital brick they called the Zune, for instance.

    They're being run aground by markets that are changing faster than they can adapt imo, and they're not showing any creativity or willingness to innovate and respond to new developments in computing. For instance: Windows 8 on a fucking phone? Who wants that crap? No one. People wants tablets and phones, for the most part, not ugly, lumbering beasts of burden like that shoggoth OS they're trying to push.

    Momentum man. p=mv. They're big and heavy and it's going to take a lot to stop and move in a different direction, and I'm not even sure they know which direction to go.

    Their industry dominance is dead in the near term, really. If content creation apps go to Linux and if PC games can be ported to a 3D api like DX on Linux, what's left? Sure they'll always have some crap people will buy, but...they're not the chieftain lion in the computing savannah any more, and that's increasingly clear to anyone who looks.

  22. Re:More or less American MS employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are decent, H1B or no H1B, you find a job in the software world in the US. Period.
    I would give US companies more H1B, but they have to pay, say US$ 100K each, and I would invest that money in public education.
    So that, maybe, in a few years, we would stop asking for engineers abroad, as more people could afford the education.

  23. Nervall's Lobster is a sham account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nervall's Lobster is an account that Slashdot's content-filler, Nick Kolakowski, uses to post his own material.

    If you look at the Nervall's Lobster account history, you will see that that user
    a) makes no comments, and
    b) only posts stories that link to one of the Slashdot spinoff sites

    Given that Nick Kolakowski is a Slashdot Editor, I don't know why he didn't simply post this article under his own name.

    I do know that their behavior is dishonest.

  24. Re:More or less American MS employees? by fnj · · Score: 1

    Somebody who doesn't bend over to Obama's speeches and cry in ecstasy?

    Find me this mythical person if he exists. We need to cut him open and find out the part of his brain that doesn't exist or has atrophied in the rest of the electorate's brains.

  25. They sell something other than exchange? by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

    Three Microsoft things I hear about the least, SkyDrive, Azure, and Office 365. Does Microsoft's "Cloud and Enterprise division" equate to Hyper-V?

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    1. Re:They sell something other than exchange? by real-modo · · Score: 1

      Two things I hear about the least: Active Directory and Exchange. Those are Microsoft's core products.

      Azure is Microsoft's response to Amazon elastic compute. Skydrive...for most people, is a Dropbox knock-off. Office 365 (again: for most people) is a blatant attempt to extract more revenue from Office. Active directory? Best in class? Exchange...what else are you going to use? Lotus Notes? POP3 mail and paper calendars?

    2. Re:They sell something other than exchange? by darylb · · Score: 2

      Skydrive (soon to be OneDrive, after their settlement with Sky Network) is more than a Dropbox knockoff. It's more similar to Google Drive. Namely, it's an online storage area for documents that aren't tied to a particular computer. Edit that Word document on your Windows Phone? Save it to Skydrive, and it'll magically appear on your tablet or desktop.

      Office 365 is just following in the steps (or alongside of) Adobe in offering a continual-pricing model. You get all the upgrades, and the up-front price is cheaper than a perpetual license. But you'll pay the annual fee perpetually. It DOES cover up to 5 machines. Whether it's what any given person wants is up to them. Being the family dad, I can see the appeal of having the software available for everyone in the house to use, on whatever machine. I don't like the recurring cost, though.

      Active Directory has displaced pretty much all the other directory services. There's some suckage with it, but less suckage than their former competitors.

      Exchange! Microsoft was the one company that, over time, figured out how email-contacts-calendar-todo-scheduling should really work in an in-house environment. (Google's suite in the cloud works well, but companies won't want a cloud solution for corporate-wide use.) I hated Outlook forever. DESPISED IT. In the end, the Outlook-Exchange combo does a lot of very valuable things. As you note, Lotus is hardly a competitor, and POP3/IMAP solutions are stone knives and bearskins compared to Exchange/Outlook.

      The rumors of Microsoft's demise are premature. They need some fresh leadership, to be sure. But there's lots of talent and lots of research at Microsoft, backed up by their entrenchment in a lot of companies' infrastructure. It'll be a long time replacing all of that.

    3. Re: They sell something other than exchange? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skydrive pre-dates Dropbox. You meant Dropbox is a knockoff of Skydrive. Skydrive is an evolution of Live Mesh.

    4. Re: They sell something other than exchange? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      They're all NFS with a bag on the side. Now get off my lawn!

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  26. Let's Hear It For More of the Same! by organgtool · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For a little while, I was afraid that Microsoft would choose someone from outside of their own toxic corporate culture and regain at least a little bit of the dominance they once had. Now that it seems likely they will choose someone who has been drinking the Microsoft KoolAid for several decades, I am suddenly much less worried. Then again, these "leaks" could just be schemes from the board to get the press, business writers, and public at large to critique each candidate for them like one giant focus group.

    1. Re:Let's Hear It For More of the Same! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      these "leaks" could just be schemes from the board to get the press, business writers, and public at large to critique each candidate for them like one giant focus group.

      No. This is like watching GWB invade Iraq. You were really hoping that it was just a head fake so that he could reinforce Afghanistan and put the scare in Sadam on the way. No. They really did it. Idiots.

  27. DIE SLASHDOT BI DIE by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

    Just posting agian to complain about Slashdot/dice posting links to Buisness Intelligence. Terrible. Horrible. Absolutely hate it with all my being. Stop actually trying to write terrible articles and focus on your core strengths: editing story summaries terribly.

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  28. RE: MS SQL is a fork of Sybase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They United States is a fork of England, and thus must be equivalent, yes?

    MS SQL left Sybase in its dust a *long* time ago.

  29. Outsourcing by onyxruby · · Score: 1

    I have to wonder what will happen to their outsourcing efforts if a person from India is made CEO? Microsoft already has well over 10,000 jobs outsourced to India as it is now? That being said their enterprise division generally seems to be run much more competently than their other divisions and he may well be the best candidate for the job.

  30. Re: Microsoft is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, Kodak was profitable even while it was starting to spiral around in the shitter, too.

  31. Same as Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the same as Apple does. I have both an ipad and surface and settings are reset during updates. Serious question, is Android different?

  32. See, slashdot is a crap now by oldhack · · Score: 1

    Back in the days, a few microsofties who worked with/for this guy would chime in with some interesting observation.

    Now? It's all bullshit comments, including this one by me.

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    1. Re:See, slashdot is a crap now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the days, a few microsofties who worked with/for this guy would chime in with some interesting observation.

      Now? It's all bullshit comments, including this one by me.

      I know that posting as an AC in this context has basically no value whatsoever, but I work for Microsoft. Not in Redmond, not doing anything particularly interesting or important, and I don't really have much insight into the machinations of the higher-level game of thrones, but I've got an @microsoft.com, if that makes you feel any better...

    2. Re:See, slashdot is a crap now by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Back in the days, a few microsofties who worked with/for this guy would chime in with some interesting observation.

      Can you show a Slashdot Windows article and comments from the past that represents what you would like Slashdot to be today?

      People often have golden memories about what Slashdot used to be, but when you actually start reading the old threads again, it's mostly the same stuff as of today.

  33. Re:More or less American MS employees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No decent person would want to work for an unethical, deceitful un-innovative company like Microsoft anyway.

    Show some self-respect. Leave the work to people who are too poor to have a choice.

  34. He used to run Bing. by Animats · · Score: 1

    Nadella used to run Bing. Bing had a leadership vacuum after he left (and still does), but it didn't do all that great while he was there.

    Microsoft's approach to Bing upper management is very strange. Microsoft sends people there, but you never hear about them while they're there. You hear about them after they're promoted to better parts of Microsoft. Mark Penn was brought in to turn around Bing, and accomplished little there. Now he heads Microsoft Advertising. Qi Lu ran Bing for a while, and now he's head of Applications and Services. So failing to turn Bing around doesn't seem to hurt executive careers at Microsoft.

    1. Re:He used to run Bing. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Bing apparently had a leadership vacuum while he was leading it.

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  35. Obama Leads The Band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a DC street near K President Barak Obama wearing a mini-skirt and halter-top holding a BIG baton leads the marching band.

    WE

    Are Blazing Saddles

    WE

    Are Blazing Saddles

    WE

    Are Blazing Saddles

    FIGHT FOR DC.

    Ha ha

  36. At least he's a systems guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least he's a systems guy. They could have gone the way HP did and hire business boffins (MBA's and whatnot). And they do the business-efficient thing at every turn. And the company downsizes. And they get rid of engineers: we have already invented and developed everything and engineers are expensive: so bonuses for the bosses. Next we increase prices, purchase product lines from other countries, offshore everything and save even more: so bonuses for the bosses. Next we sell off key technologies to competitors for one-time windfall profits: so bonuses for bosses. Then we "right size" followed by "down size" all local manufacturing, close 3 old plants and 2 new ones, record a better profit/expense ratio: so bonuses for bosses. Finally we are left with corporate headquarters: overseas manufacturing and engineering, offshore call centre, 3rd party marketing, 3rd party accounting. We lease patents and sell off other intellectual property for one-time windfall profits: so bonuses for bosses. Corporate head count seems high: senior management accepts a buyout/golden-parachute/golden-handshake for doing such a wonderful job: each leave with $10,000,000 exit payout, as a final act they lease part of corporate headquarters to competitor: take an extra final bonus. 2 days later stock is de-listed, traded over-the-counter on pink sheets.

  37. Who would have guessed by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Who would have guessed that Billg lacks the balls to bring in an outsider and instead will name yet another tired old insider retread to the job. Here is hoping that the fail is massive, even eclipsing Ballmer.

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  38. It's confirmed: Evil runs MS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, Sat[y]aN. is the new CEO of Microsoft? Now, this explains a lot, including the evilness of the missing Start button!

  39. Nadella understands enterprise? How do we know? by RR · · Score: 1

    Come to think of it, besides being the titular guy in charge of it, how do we know that Nadella understands enterprise?

    I'm just being too lazy to look, but shouldn't there be signs that he's not just a figurehead? You know, memos, presentations, letters to the public or to the staff. Anything?

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  40. Re:Microsoft is dead by Nyder · · Score: 2

    They just haven't been forgotten yet.

    Well, zombies were all the rage a few years ago, so it would make sense that MS is going zombie after everyone else...

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  41. Why not Elop? by Aggrajag · · Score: 3, Funny

    Elop did a fantastic job managing Nokia.

    1. Re:Why not Elop? by Xpangoers · · Score: 1

      This only proves the person was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Sure there is some skill and intelligence involved. but sitting in a chair and filing important sounding decisions while your market and revenue grow do not always imply competence.By that logic, in some respects Ballmer is a god. MCStack

  42. Re: MS SQL is a fork of Sybase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They United States is a fork of England, and thus must be equivalent, yes?

    MS SQL left Sybase in its dust a *long* time ago.

    This is the best analogy I've seen in days. Can I borrow it? :)

  43. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no matter what your personal settings about half of the windows updates will override them and randomly change your logon background page and the presence of the logon page itself.

    I've been using Windows 8 for six months. That's never happened to me, not even once. Also, I never use the bulit-in photo viewer. I installed Irfanview. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Nope by Alomex · · Score: 1

      That's never happened to me, not even once.

      Ok, I believe you. So? All it means is that Win 8 fails erratically.

      Also, I never use the bulit-in photo viewer.

      So your argument in favor of Win 8 is that if you purchase enough software and replace enough of it it can be made not to suck. That's an endorsement.

    2. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try Pictus for image viewing. Free and as minimal as you can get and functions the way you would think it should function. I can't comment on the built in image viewer haven't ever used it.

  44. Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mssql 6.5 was the last version from the Sybase fork. Since mssql 7.0 there is a new relational engine, storage engine and optimizer. Today t-sql has lots of differences and they algo have lots of little different behaviours.

  45. Volcanos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should start a tradition of making a clean sweep by tossing the old one(s) into a live volcano.

    1. Re:Volcanos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, come on! What did a live volcano ever do to you?

  46. Re:You think MS SQL is good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you say MS SQL is standard, do you mean it adheres to the SQL standard? How does it do on importing/exporting databases, i.e., can I export a database from MS SQL and import it into PostgreSQL with minimal effort?

    I can't speak to its scalability or its speed, but given that the only people who tend to use MS SQL are windows shops, and folks like Amazon, Netflix, Google *don't* use MS SQL I don't see why you would think MS SQL is that good. I have never experienced anything speaking well of Oracle databases, only that their support is good but expensive.

  47. That should be as..... by sgt_doom · · Score: 0

    ....here in Little India (formerly known as Seattle), whose small businesses (those which are still left) are taking a pounding, since around half the IT workers are Punjabis (foreign visa scab workers primarily from India, although a few from Pakistan), he will be soundly applauded. Those foreign visa workers from India, unfortunately, don't patronize the local fine restaurants, many of which have now gone out of business, and certainly not the book stores for their tech books, as the local and American IT workers once did (Yeah, I know so much is online, but you still need the books for real study). The corporations bring in foreign visa scab workers form India, and the local small businesses suffer, and the tax base is shrunk because fewer Americans are paying taxes, and so many jobs have been offshored. Only traitors still give a rat's ass about Micro$oft.

  48. Indian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's one shitty indian motherfucker. From now on, Americans need not apply, only Indians will be hired. The smellier the better!

  49. Yes and no by mbkennel · · Score: 1


    Their goal should be: "How do we make a fantastic interface for a desktop operating system made for business software". And actually implement it. (I personally have some ideas with alternate mice). And write and sell that business software.

  50. Geeks not exempt from racism by tapi0 · · Score: 1

    Just saying, some of the comments on here are frankly disgusting and, surprisingly, not all just AC.

  51. Voting for satya nadella by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    satya nadella is the best option microsoft having for next CEO...