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Psychologists: Internet Trolls Are Narcissistic, Psychopathic, and Sadistic

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Chris Mooney reports at Slate that research conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba confirmed that people who engage in internet trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called Dark Tetrad: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others). In the study, trolls were identified in a variety of ways. One was by simply asking survey participants what they 'enjoyed doing most' when on online comment sites, offering five options: 'debating issues that are important to you,' 'chatting with others,' 'making new friends,' 'trolling others,' and 'other.' The study recruited participants from Amazon's Mechanical Turk website and two measures of sadistic personality were administered (PDF): the Short Sadistic Impulse Scale and the Varieties of Sadistic Tendencies Scale. Only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified that they enjoyed 'trolling.' By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet users were 'non-commenters,' meaning they didn't like engaging online at all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online commenters, and an even smaller minority of overall Internet users. Overall, the authors found that the relationship between sadism and trolling was the strongest, and that indeed, sadists appear to troll because they find it pleasurable. 'Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!' The study comes as websites are increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior but the study authors aren't sure that fix is a realistic one. 'Because the behaviors are intrinsically motivating for sadists, comment moderators will likely have a difficult time curbing trolling with punishments (e.g., banning users),' says Buckels. 'Ultimately, the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a socially-desirable manner.' Perhaps posting rights should only be unlocked if you pass a test."

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  1. Oh, great! now what! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny

    All it took was couple of regular guys to take the bait and post a couple of replies, and the trolls get another lease of life, almost like cockroaches getting one lick at the spilled grain of sugar and living for the next six months. Now the trolls get their own academic study and serious professors in horn rimmed glasses and slightly rumpled suits with food stains are going to discuss the trolls... No point in pleading "don't feed the trolls". They have just achieved immortality.

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    1. Re:Oh, great! now what! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Trolls enjoy it if you react to them. If you talk TO them.

      They hate it if you talk ABOUT them while ignoring them entirely, treating them like the lab rats they should be.

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  2. Dark Tetrad by arvindsg · · Score: 2

    Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes

    Troll of the day

  3. There is a way to reduce trolling... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Ultimately, the allure of trolling may be too strong for sadists, who presumably have limited opportunities to express their sadistic interests in a socially-desirable manner.'

    All we need to do is to create opportunities for the sadists to torture people in real life, and they will leave our precious internet alone.

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    1. Re:There is a way to reduce trolling... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Actually many are not sociopaths, but psychopaths meaning they would not want to do that to someone else as they would feel more remorse and somewhat empathy.

      However a pure stranger with no face on an internet chatroom is an easier target. Everyone when angry or has been wronged by someone else would feel a little justice when things catch up. The same anger that builds is easy to take out elsewhere with anonymity.

      Kids in inner city schools think it is funny as hell to make teachers angry and disrupt classrooms for example. WIth no role models at home, lots of anger, and no values of education it is displayed. This is why there is an education crises in this country as an example. Those with no anger in good environments would never do such things.

    2. Re:There is a way to reduce trolling... by Redmancometh · · Score: 2

      Dream is correct. The "PC" term for psychopaths is now "anti-social personality disorder."

    3. Re:There is a way to reduce trolling... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Informative
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  4. Survey results != Real world by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only 5.6 percent of survey respondents actually specified that they enjoyed 'trolling.' By contrast, 41.3 percent of Internet users were 'non-commenters,' meaning they didn't like engaging online at all. So trolls are, as has often been suspected, a minority of online commenters

    I will contend that a majority of persistent "trolls" would not necessarily answer on a survey that they enjoy trolling.

    (1) You will have trolls that claim to be 'debating issues that are important to you' ---- such as the poor speling or grammars of the postes that your are replying to.

    (2) You will have trolls that claim to be just 'chatting with others' --- a lie, because they don't want to admit on a survey that they actually enjoy trolling. It's all just innocent chatter.

    (3) You will have trolls that claim to be just 'making new friends' --- because they see the reponse as ironic and sarcastic, AND they being trolls -- they are going to try and troll the survey in order to skew your data.

    (4) You may also have intentional or unintentional occasional trolls that truthfully DO primarily do one of the first 3 things, and they identify themselves as doing those things moreso than trolling.

    (5) "Troll" is lingo --- you may have people who enjoy trolling, who have absolutely no idea what the word 'Troll' means.

    1. Re:Survey results != Real world by Teun · · Score: 4, Funny

      such as the poor speling or grammars of the postes that your are replying to

      Was that on purpose?

      Are you on the receiving end of spelling trolls? :)

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    2. Re:Survey results != Real world by Hugh+Pickens+DOT+Com · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Good point. There is a second part of the study that addresses this issue is to some extent.

      A limitation of Study 1 is that we asked participants to select their favorite activity from a list of options. This necessitated a categorical index of trolling that likely underestimated the effects. Hence in Study 2, we assessed enjoyment of each commenting activity (including trolling) on separate continuous scales. To rule out the possibility that overall Internet use explains relations with trolling, we also included a question about total time spent on line for use as a control variable. Finally, to triangulate on trolling with multiple measures, we constructed a second brief index:the Global Assessment of Internet Trolling (GAIT) scale, which assessed trolling behavior, identiïcation, and enjoyment. As in Study 1, measures of the Big Five were included for comparison. Study 2 also featured data from a larger and more diverse sample, furnishing us with enough statistical power to test hypotheses about the unique contributions of the Dark Tetrad. For reasons articulated earlier,we expected sadism to dominate personality effects on trolling. Thus we predicted that the relations between sadism and trolling would remain signiïcant even when controlling for overlap with psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism.

    3. Re:Survey results != Real world by khasim · · Score: 2

      (5) "Troll" is lingo --- you may have people who enjoy trolling, who have absolutely no idea what the word 'Troll' means.

      As is the case with the people who wrote that survey.

      They should have included examples of "trolling" to illustrate their points.

      a. You post "I like X". Someone follows that with "Only pussies like X." Is that person a "troll"?

      b. A new article is posted. The first comment is unrelated to the article and only contains racist/sexist/whatever comments. Is that person a "troll"?

      And so forth.

      I think that the term "jerkass" applies more than "troll" in those examples.

    4. Re:Survey results != Real world by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Funny

      I will contend that a majority of persistent "trolls" would not necessarily answer on a survey that they enjoy trolling.

      You make a lot of great points. I would add -- internet "trolling" is often the result of an anonymous or pseudonymous environment, where you are held less accountable for your actions. It's like the people who are happy to lay on the horn in their car or aggressively tailgate someone (or slow down to "teach someone a lesson"), but they would never randomly scream at someone who was walking too slow on the street or cut in front of them on a sidewalk and start walking slowly. Anonymity changes behavior.

      I'd say that anyone capable of aggressive anonymous driving behavior (which seems to be a LOT of folks, perhaps the majority of people at some point, depending on stress level) is also capable of trolling on the internet.

      Those people who actually self-identify as "trolls" in such a study are probably primarily either real outliers or people who actually aren't really trolls all the time, but found it amusing to select such a non-conformist choice (see your average Slashdot poll). Thus, the data may also be skewed by people who aren't primarily trolls but have other personality traits that led them to make an unusual choice in an internet poll.

    5. Re:Survey results != Real world by russotto · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sadistic - I just did a lecture on whale-hunting. First-person POV, with the intention of making people angry, sick and upset in order to ram home the message about how awful that is to do to animals, especially a self-aware one with all those extra miles of pain circuits to deal with, and knowledge of what is happening to it.

      A one-man show of Moby Dick is NOT a lecture on whale hunting. It is quite sadistic though.

    6. Re:Survey results != Real world by radarskiy · · Score: 2

      Clearly, no one in the history of survey design has ever considered the idea of an unreliable respondent until you came along.

    7. Re:Survey results != Real world by khasim · · Score: 2

      I prefer the usage further down that article.

      Commonly, what is meant is a relatively gentle inside joke by veteran users, presenting questions or topics that had been so overdone that only a new user would respond to them earnestly. For example, a veteran of the group might make a post on the common misconception that glass flows over time. Long-time readers would both recognize the poster's name and know that the topic had been discussed a lot, but new subscribers to the group would not realize, and would thus respond.

      Or the somewhat related ...

      Others expanded the term to include the practice of playing a seriously misinformed or deluded user, even in newsgroups where one was not a regular; these were often attempts at humor rather than provocation. In such contexts, the noun troll usually referred to an act of trolling â" or to the resulting discussion â" rather than to the author.

      Is it really "trolling" if two (or more) jerkasses keep posting insults at each other?

    8. Re:Survey results != Real world by lilrobbie · · Score: 2

      Hehe. They do seem to keep missing the point that putting a "Trolling" option automatically gives the trolls something to avoid though (thereby skewing their data). I mean, all their study is proving is that there is a certain type of troll who is narcissistic enough to enjoy admitting this fact to others... right?

  5. Sadists are misunderstood by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sadists are a misunderstood and marginalized segment of society. Can you imagine growing up as a sadist? How would you tell your parents? They would say, "oh, you're just trying to be mean." They don't understand that this is how you were born. They would say, "oh, you just need to be with a girl, get married, and she will soften you more." It is unacceptable to force sadists into the narrow confines of society's expectations. It is time for sadists and trolls everywhere to come out of the closet and stand for who they are.

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    1. Re:Sadists are misunderstood by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Its time to give sadists a fair crack of the whip!

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    2. Re:Sadists are misunderstood by Ardyvee · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd give you a cookie, except I'm not sure you deserve it.

      Can you please calibrate my sarcasm detector?

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    3. Re:Sadists are misunderstood by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you please calibrate my sarcasm detector?

      Are you asking whether you've been trolled or not?

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  6. Another click-bait troll post by oldhack · · Score: 2

    Trolling with a "story" about trolling. It's troll all the way down here.

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  7. Those guys at Microsoft make great software by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Funny

    In regards to the article I hate to say

    Boy, those guys at Microsoft sure know how to make great software. The fact is no other browser at work displays content right like IE 6. It is the best browser! Infact, the W3C is implementing things IE 6 had for years like rich text controls and displaying the box model ... the RIGHT WAY!

    Also I have to tell you McAffee and Norton are soo great and a real pleasure to use for the best OS in the world. Nothing makes me all in the mood when I have to see the pleasure of seeing a scan pop up during a lovely reboot but these wonderful products.

    In addition, FSF are a bunch of radical socialists from the Obama administration out to destroy your freedom. Just look at GCC and how RMS's radical views on commercial software made sure these tools can never be included in another program like kdevelop or Netbeans. I actually do not write software but think I know everything and like to chat crap from other people so I can laugh at all the responses HAHAH.

    This is why only BSD is the only true license etc and only vi should be used to read any licensing terms. Anyone who disagree's is an idiot, socialist, Obama voter, and needs to have lots of replies here and go waaay offtopic.

    Sincerely,

    Patrick Bateman.

  8. Yeah, grammar! by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

    The study comes as websites are increasingly weighing steps to rein in trollish behavior

    I'm just impressed that the summary correctly spelled "to rein in."

    Signed,
    A Grammar Troll. :)

  9. Mechanical Turk as a survey pool? by Animats · · Score: 2

    I'm a bit bothered by the use of Amazon's Mechanical Turk as a source of survey participants. That's by its nature a group of people with lots of free time and few marketable skills. That's a likely place to find trolls.

    Slashdot's moderation system seem to do a good job of preventing trolling. I just hope the Dice management doesn't break it, in search of higher "social engagement" or something.

  10. Re:What's with the Mechanical Turk-based "research by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pretty much all these quantitative sociology studies turn out to be questionable. Between populations of convenience and these hokey numerical personality tests, the results don't inspire that much confidence.

    Even though in my day job I do statistics, when it comes to social science I often find qualitative anthropology/ethnography-style research, where researchers actually get out there in communities, try to understand them, and talk to people, quite a bit more informative. Especially for preliminary understanding where it's not often even clear what a phenomenon's broad characteristics are, and therefore difficult to design an intelligent quantitative study with useful metrics.

    Alas, this kind of stuff gets more citations and press, because sampling 5000 people and rating them on a 0.0 to 10.0 personality scale using a questionnaire seems superficially more scientific... 'cause it's got numbers.

  11. Re:so are republicans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little âoecleverâ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

  12. Posting Name is Significant by Yahooti · · Score: 2

    You'll also note that most of them post as "Anonymous Coward". People with a name, even one without much going for it, usually at least try to be reasonable.

  13. Re:Authenticate commentors with some physical medi by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Funny

    Furthermore, I would suggest the only ones motivated enough to go through all that effort to post would be trolls, psychopaths and sadists.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  14. Re:Happy Saturday from The Golden Girls! by similar_name · · Score: 3, Funny

    For once, this may actually be on topic. Still a troll, but not off topic.

  15. Re:New Study! by tragedy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.

  16. Re:New Study! by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    I'd like another helping of the turtle stew, please.

  17. What does the word "troll" mean, anyway? by shiftless · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems like any time I comment on a discussion and have the nerve to express an opinion that is contrary to the prevailing groupthink, there's always some douchebag who calls me a troll. And here I was thinking that a "troll" is somebody who says things in a carefully crafted manner specifically designed to piss people off. Nowadays it means "anyone who says anything my huge overblown ego doesn't want to hear."

    1. Re:What does the word "troll" mean, anyway? by synaptik · · Score: 2

      Speaking for myself: If you've supported your unpopular or arcane opinion with a well-thought out argument, then I'm likely to mod it 'interesting', at the least. On the other hand, if your argument is nonexistent or so weak that I am left thinking that you don't actually hold that opinion yourself, but are instead posting it to get a reaction out of others... then I go for troll.

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  18. 3 types of "troll" by mtthwbrnd · · Score: 2

    1. A genuine troll who adds nothing to the topic.
    2. Anybody who posts negative comments about Israel, no matter how valid their points are.
    3. Anybody who looks at the global temperature graphs and concludes that actually, the temperature has not gone up for almost 2 decades.

  19. Re:Authenticate commentors with some physical medi by Richy_T · · Score: 2

    Pair that with openid so that you don't have to do this for *every* site and you might be getting somewhere.