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Google Tells Glass Users Not To Be 'Creepy Or Rude'

An anonymous reader writes "One of the biggest worries about the rise of wearable computing is the ease with which random strangers will be able to record your actions without your knowing. Right now, it's pretty easy to tell if somebody's holding up their cellphone to take some video. But when everybody's wearing Google Glass, or something similar, it will become harder to tell. This has led to preemptive bans on Glass in certain places. Now, Google has published a list of Do's and Don'ts to tell Glass users how they should behave politely in public. Do: ask for permission before recording people. Don't: ignore the world around you, expect that people won't notice, or wear it during a cage fight. Most importantly, don't 'be creepy or rude.' Google says, 'Standing alone in the corner of a room staring at people while recording them through Glass is not going to win you any friends.'"

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  1. But... by msauve · · Score: 5, Funny

    Creepy and rude nerds are their target market. How's that going to work?

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    1. Re:But... by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      Obviously not true. Apple has always struggled to gain acceptance with their products, and didn't start succeeding until they actually offered the superior product too. Nerds and the general user base also share one other thing: both tend to like the cheaper option that, while less polished, gives the greatest personal freedom. Witness Android vs. iOS. Very clear what the better product is, but Android is the PC to Apple's Mac.

      It turns out that cool, sociable people are also annoying and less popular than they think.

      I'm all for privacy on your property. But if you're in public, assume you're taped. Chances are you already are, and you just don't realize it.

    2. Re:But... by Frobnicator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate replying to myself, but since we don't have a way to edit...

      The ones with the cameras have the power. Governments with CCTV have power. Corporate overlords with CCTV have power.

      Protesters recording police abuses have power if they record it, but if they don't record it usually they lose.

      Activists recording business abuses have power when challenged since they can expose problems, but no recordings and they find themselves sued to oblivion.

      Drivers in Russia with dashboard cameras have power when people jump in front of their vehicles.

      When the people have the cameras, they have the power. Sadly many individuals equate cameras with power so they feel powerless when they see another individual with a camera. Just give everybody cameras, let them record everything. Power to the people, and all that.

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    3. Re:But... by the_B0fh · · Score: 2

      Curious if you ever look in the mirror.

    4. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      In public, I want ubiquitous recording BY THE INDIVIDUALS.

      You seem to have a serious problem with understanding that what YOU want
      may not be what others want.

      Some people are not going to ask you politely to quit taking video of them,
      they are just going to take your device and smash it. Don't believe me ?
      Try taking video of a group of bikers and see how that works out for you.
      ( you will want to make sure your health insurance is in proper order and covers major
      facial trauma before you undertake this experiment )

      .

    5. Re:But... by khallow · · Score: 2

      Not after my mere gaze shattered it into dust.

    6. Re:But... by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

      And your basis for saying this is what exactly? You seem to state your case like it's fact, when you just seem to hate a group of individuals with different preferences than you. Guess what, not everyone has the same priorities you do, and you are not the smartest person on the planet. I know you think you are, but you aren't. Do you claim that all food you don't like is worthless garbage for the unwashed masses? If you do, my guess is you eat a lot of dinners alone. Get over yourself.

    7. Re:But... by bloodhawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I certainly don't trust Corporates or governments with power, I trust the average person with power to monitor me a 1000 time less. The average moron has no respect for anyone elses privacy or rights and thinks what they find acceptable trumps everyone elses rights to decency.

    8. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Your own link shows that your source is shit, maybe you should read it? Location tracking is considered a risky behavior, and Android apps collected MORE data, more easily than iOS apps did. Second, it's from a company trying to sell you... a service to manage apps.

    9. Re:But... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Interesting

      which is why Glass will never take off.
      Consumer products are only successful if they're marketed to cool, sociable people, not loser nerds with no lives.

      I'm their target market.

      I'm not a creepy nerd either. I'm a middle-aged business man with a nice wife, a nice house, a reasonable car, and a reasonable job that requires me to inspect and manage engineering works in progress.

      I have always obtained and used the best mobile recording tools for the job: Digital cameras as soon as they were available. Those Olympus electronic voice recorders/transcribers. I still have a Compaq Concerto tablet PC from the early '90s, The first Palm Pilot, and several later iterations of the marque. Win CE PDAs and phones. Nokia N800s. Several varieties of Android phones and tablets. If a tool saves me time, it makes me money.

      If I could get a Glass, I'd be using it now. It's a tool, not a toy and will succeed or fail based on how good a tool it is.

      You can call me a Glasshole if you like. I don't care, as long as it's making my job easier and better.

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    10. Re:But... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Why would you want to peek in my bathroom window? If you want to get blind, there are easier and less painful ways...

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    11. Re:But... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow... it sounds like it's the non Glass-wearing crowd who are the ones in need of a little lesson in public behaviour.

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    12. Re: But... by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 2

      Here here.

      I just do a bunch of DIY around the house. Being able to record things as I take them apart or assemble them would be a huge timesaver and make it a lot easier to seek advice/share experiences.

      The benefits of doing this in a chemical lab would be even greater.

    13. Re:But... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2

      What, are they afraid the video will end up on some underground bear porn site?

    14. Re:But... by Rich0 · · Score: 2

      Wow... it sounds like it's the non Glass-wearing crowd who are the ones in need of a little lesson in public behaviour.

      I think they get it quite right. You are not suggesting that Google should sell a GG + gun combination? Armed glassholes who give the unwashed masses a little lesson in public behaviour?

      Somehow I doubt the parent was suggesting that a gunfight in a bar was the solution to somebody being annoyed about somebody else owning a camera. Maybe live and let live is a better solution? The last time I checked everybody at the local bar was carrying a cell phone camera, and I've yet to see somebody get punched in the face over it.

    15. Re:But... by laejoh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want to know more, read Gödel, Esher and Bach!

    16. Re:But... by cmorriss · · Score: 2

      My dad is a home inspector and I was talking to him the other day about how amazing Glass would be for his job. He often has to climb into difficult spots and take pictures or movies. This would be a dream tool for him.

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    17. Re:But... by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      Lock in and synergy with other devices are both rational evaluations. I have a mac, Apple TV, and airplay speakers at home, so an iphone is much more functional for me than an android. Not to mention all my music is in the itunes cloud Andy current app library. For me an iphone is a rational choice because it has better features than an android because it plays nice with my other toys, and is a better price because I don't have to buy new apps.

    18. Re:But... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      The irrational decision was to get locked in to iOS in the first place, and to then not switch to a Nexus 5 which is better than the current iPhone but half the price so you can re-buy all the locked-in apps anyway. If you buy Android apps you can take them with you to new devices from different manufacturers in the future, and even different operating systems as some others now support running Android code.

      Also, unless you own a Mac you need to install iTunes to sync media from your computers, which is a giant steaming turd and reason enough on its own to switch.

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  2. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't be a glasshole.

  3. If only such a list existed for cell phones by Publiu5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the cellphone and Glass are not the same tech, they do seem to share similar bad habits (ie making you tune out the world around you, especially when crossing a street) in how people may ultimately use. So, maybe a similar list should be made to address the do's and dont's of cellphones, maybe in app form

  4. That should do it! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I expect that this initiative will be 136.24% more efficient than the already foolproof 'don't be evil' mandate that Google follows...

  5. They must be new here by sandbagger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It will be used to make porn. It will be used to game casinos. It will be used to record cops. Someone will use it to case a place for a robbery. It will be used in divorces. It will be used to document various offences as decreed by Jezebel. It will be used by police to enable face recognition of people like they do licence plates.

    What the fuck do they think will happen?

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  6. Glassholio by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's very smart of Google to recognize that "Glasshole" is an inevitable slang term to be applied to some (most?) Glass users. They're trying to get ahead of the term and define it to apply to only the worst kinds of users.

    Still, they face an uphill battle if they hope to create a positive public image for Glass. If only 1 in 10,000 Glass users behaves in a socially unacceptable way, that one person will be the focus of endless sensationalist news coverage.

    1. Re:Glassholio by thegarbz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No. "Glasshole" is just a term created by a bunch of individuals so obsessed with themselves that they think that every Google glass user is recording them all the time when the reality is you're very likely to be an incredibly boring nobody. It's amazing how obsessive people are about their own privacy because "OMG Camera" without realising that if someone wanted to video tape them without their knowledge there's nothing they can do to prevent it. Seriously there's hundreds of small spy cam style products and Google Glass is definitely not the first company to put a camera in a set of glasses, and then at least they are distinctive glasses and some fancy frames with a hidden camera.

      The reality is recording consumes a shitload of battery life. GG lasts about an hour of continuous recording, but for some reason people seem to think that's all the device is for / capable of.

    2. Re:Glassholio by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If only 1 in 10,000 Glass users behaves in a socially unacceptable way, that one person will be the focus of endless sensationalist news coverage.

      I'm pretty sure more than 1 in 10,000 iPad users behaves in a socially unacceptable way. Go to a London exhibit and you won't be able to see it because of the wall of iPads taking photos. Didn't seem to do sales any harm though.

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  7. Google being social retards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Humorous that Google is having to tell people to not be creepy or rude. They've finally woken up to the fact that Glass is inherently antisocial, just like all those people who hover over their phones in public as they do constant texting/facebook updates/emails. If someone's gonna do that at a dinner out then they might as well have stayed at home on the bed eating dorito's and watching some mindless flick on tv.

    Commonsense bottom line: If you're wearing Glass when you're supposed to be doing something social, then it should be taken off. Everyone should understand in their guts what a social gaffe it is to wear a rig that could be constantly recording while doing something in a supposedly-relaxing social situation - like a party. If they don't then they come out on the lower end of the bell-curve for empathy and on the higher end of the bell-curve for the massively socially inept.

  8. NO by Sigvatr · · Score: 2

    Don't tell me what to do, Google!

  9. Re:Little Red LED by the_B0fh · · Score: 2

    because the people who made it didn't want it. That's why.

    That should tell you a lot about the mentality of the people who created it.

  10. How do I get what I want, not what Google wants? by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 2

    Google with their insistence on a camera-based social-media augmented-reality creepy-invasive experience is going to set back the cause of direct human-computer interaction by years.

    Honestly I don't want a camera in my "glass". I want a link to something like my desktop computing resources. It's an intimate experience between me and the computer, not between my computer and the environment around me. Sure there are some cute apps you can do with the camera, but the creepy factor is going to make people as self-conscious and obvious as a Segway rider (and we know how that turned out).

    When I can PAY for a device that has MY interests at heart rather than the latest data power grab by Google then I'll be interested.

    Connect me with the Internet then get the fuck out of the way. I don't need you to mediate every interaction I have, not only with information from the net but with the real world around me.

    G.

  11. Re:Degausse by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Working on a ranged degausser for any glass user pointing it in my direction.

    Wow. I didn't realize google glass was storing its data on magnetic media. Or do you mean that the eye piece is actually a mini CRT?

  12. Re:Friends? by afgam28 · · Score: 2

    A lot of those points could be made about the iPod. Can you imagine yourself listening to one at the dinner table? At dinner with a date at a restaurant?

    There's nothing stopping people from taking off their Glass when it is socially inappropriate to wear it.

  13. Re:No worries about creepy or weird here by Zynder · · Score: 2

    I went and registered with the site. It's horrible. You need to replicate Slashdot functionality if you want to take the users away. The way it is now, there isn't really much of a feed and the site is like going to the Help Forum of a cheap ass tech website. I want the front page scrollable. I don't want stories boxed up into different forums. I thought slashcode was open source. Just get the code and reskin it so once Beta goes live we can just slide right over and not have to retrain anything. We are complaining because Beta is going to throw away what we already have. If you want readers, make the new site look like what we already have! I do wish you luck and I'm ready to jump ship when you've cleaned it up.

    Also are you claiming that Dice is deleting your posts?

  14. Re:Little Red LED by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Funny

    you'll be happy to know Google Glass has similar option to turn the red on, activated by a hard punch to the a face of the glasshole

  15. Be Rude by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Be rude. Because this idea is stupid.

    You think in 15 years everyone won't be recording all the time? They will be.

    Whether it is Google Contact Lense, Apple Retina Display Phone or Acme Eyeballs --- there are going to be cameras everywhere.

    So let us adjust.

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  16. Re:Friends? by kwbauer · · Score: 2

    "Friends don't really give a shit about each other," says the Google Glasses owner.

  17. Re:Degausse by weilawei · · Score: 2

    It's intended to degauss the glasshole, not the glass. ;)

  18. Google by pitchpipe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google Tells Glass Users Not To Be 'Creepy Or Rude' ... and then they reminded users that they'll be watching so they'll know.

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    1. Re:Google by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      They see you when you're sleeping
      They know when you're awake
      They know if you've been bad or good
      So be good for goodness sake

      Christmas carols have never been this creepy before...

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  19. Re:Surveillance cameras? by davester666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure. But video from those CCTV cameras don't readily get uploaded to youtube.

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  20. Re:Little Red LED by sir1real · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like you graduated from the Sean Penn school of social interaction.

  21. Needs a recording LED, like everything else by Etcetera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google needs to put in a hard-wired LED that's on when recording. Yes, you'll look like a Borg when you're recording, but that's a small price to pay for others' comfort.

    Can people still obscure it? Yes... but if I see someone walking around with a Google Glass *and* a bit of black electrical tape over the front, I know I'm dealing with a complete d-bag and can treat them accordingly.

    1. Re:Needs a recording LED, like everything else by sociocapitalist · · Score: 2

      Google needs to put in a hard-wired LED that's on when recording. Yes, you'll look like a Borg when you're recording, but that's a small price to pay for others' comfort.

      Can people still obscure it? Yes... but if I see someone walking around with a Google Glass *and* a bit of black electrical tape over the front, I know I'm dealing with a complete d-bag and can treat them accordingly.

      Finally we know why the terminators have red eyes!

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    2. Re:Needs a recording LED, like everything else by QuasiSteve · · Score: 2

      Exactly this.

      I find the juxtaposition of "you have no privacy in public" and "glassholes invade my privacy" by many a peculiar one. Not just based on the premise alone, but because most of them will complain that if they see a glasshole, they'll do/feel X.

      But how many people with smartphones whipped out recording video do they not care about because they can't easily see them? How many security cameras do they not care about because they're squirreled away? And how often do they wonder to themselves whether that vest button is really a button or a $15 480p spycam off of ebay?

      Ignorance truly is bliss in the context of ubiquitous recording, it seems, with suggestions like "if only it had an indicator LED" pandering to their placebo sense of security.

  22. better list by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. don't buy it
    2. get a life outside of social networks and the internet

  23. Re:Degausse by ComputersKai · · Score: 2
    A new device that can instantly impair any glasshole recording you! You go up to them, point the hole at them, and press down! And that's all!

    Of course, I'm talking about spray paint.

  24. Black Mirror - The Entire History of You by Any+Web+Loco · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a great fun 1-hour TV show called Black Mirror - The Entire History of You which deals with what it would be like to be able to record every minute of your private life and review it at any stage. Didn't have entirely positive things to say. Worth a watch one evening - might temper your view?

  25. Re:Q about glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The camera exists on the device. You should assume that people will have rooted it so that any notificiation of recording will be disabled while still allowing recording.

  26. Re:Surveillance cameras? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    There is a difference between "no reasonable expectation of privacy" and "reasonable expectation to be monitored every single moment of your life".

    People and quantum particles have one thing in common: They behave differently if observed. Want proof? Take the average car driver and watch his reaction to a police car starting to drive behind him. They don't want anything from him, he has done nothing wrong, still he starts to feel uneasy. Nothing really changed, it's just that he feels now that he's being monitored. Whether he is being followed by them (actually, with them being so obvious about it, quite unlikely) is irrelevant.

    Being observed puts people in a stress position. Take your average test at school and you know what I mean. You know the answer, you knew it 5 minutes ago, but now, in front of everyone and under "observation" from your teacher, suddenly you draw a blank.

    CCTVs are already troubling, but at least they're far away and they are not so obvious. Glass would be much more obvious, since it's literally in your face. Try picturing walking across town and getting the feeling that everyone you meet is watching and recording you.

    If you ain't paranoid yet, you sure will be.

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  27. Suddenly a problem? by bickerdyke · · Score: 2

    While I can understand that people have a problem with being recorded everywhere and by everyone, why has this never been a problem with those camera sunglasses you can get in your "toys for spies and other grown up kids" shop for years now?

    These are actually designed to a) record more than a few moments of video and b) to do that hiden without arousing any suspiscion. And c) they are available for everyone for $30

    And all of a sudden everyone is up in arms that people could buy a $1500 device that can't record longer than a few minutes and is highly visible to make SECRET (or at least unnoticed) video recordings? Come on guys...

    The usual argument is the one about the slippery slope that the introduction of wearable video cameras will lead to ubiquitous video surveillance, but I can't see how that could lead there when wearable, hidden cameras is actually where we're comming from! Wearble cameras getting are getting bigger, more noticeable and less recording capacity and suddenly everyone is WORRIED?!?

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  28. Google Analytics by MrL0G1C · · Score: 2

    Don't be creepy says the creepiest company on the web, spying on people worldwide to a degree that I'm sure the NSA envies.

    Google analytics > Google glass, pot kettle black.

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  29. Re:Q about glass by DrXym · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank goodness there is absolutely no way known to science or man of disabling a small LED.

  30. Re: Q about glass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They already side load. They've (as in users/devs/hackers) have already figured out a way to record without any indication and even made an app to snap pictures with a simple wink (I believe Google may have introduced the ability to do that also now, but the users introduced it long ago when Google said it wasn't possible)

  31. Who needs Glass ? by nukenerd · · Score: 3, Funny
    FTFA :-

    Google says, 'Standing alone in the corner of a room staring at people while recording them through Glass is not going to win you any friends.'"

    Funny, that sounds like me at any social function, and that's without wearing Glass :-(

  32. Re:Q about glass by rvw · · Score: 2

    Obviously. How much battery life or storage space do you think would need to fit in this device to be permanently recording? Permanent recording, or even frequent recording by user choice, is not practical in a device this size with current technology.

    You don't need to be a rocket engineer to connect it to a larger battery in your pocket. If people want it, someone will make it.

  33. Re:Degausse by fsck-beta · · Score: 2

    This is what, your third threat of violence towards those who don't like glass in this thread?

  34. Re:Degausse by fsck-beta · · Score: 2

    Such an internet tough guy.

  35. Re:Degausse by X0563511 · · Score: 2

    Yep, because threatening to spraypaint and/or lase someone in the face because they wear Glass isn't violent or out of proportion at all?

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