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Asia's Richest Man Is Betting Big On Silicon Valley's Fake Eggs
Daniel_Stuckey writes with more news about science making non-human animals obsolete "Li Ka-shing, widely billed as Asia's richest man, announced a $23 million Series B investment in Hampton Creek Foods through his fund Horizon Ventures on Monday, bringing the food technology startup's total take to $30 million after initial investments by people including Vinod Khosla, co-founder of Sun Microsystems. Bill Gates is also an investor and fan. The egg replacement still requires fine-tuning, according to Hampton Creek CEO Josh Tetrick, but the company's mayonnaise replacement is already on shelves at stores including Whole Foods and some of the largest retail brands in the country. (Mayo is usually made with eggs and vinegar.)"
Because Vegans like breakfast too?
I always presumed they ate breakfast on Vega, now I know.
We're talking about vegans here, though, and if they enjoy their breakfasts so much, why do they need fake eggs? What's wrong with their normal vegan breakfast that they have to eat fake animal protein?
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This what I found for their "Just Mayo" product.
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Eggs are dirt cheap and plentiful.
Eggs are cheap compared to meat. They are not cheap compared to soybeans and grain. They are plentiful in first world grocery stores. They are not so plentiful in the diets of third world children.
The taste should not be a problem. As someone who has a small flock of chickens in my backyard, I can tell you that the factory farm eggs you buy don't taste like "real" eggs either.
You could have a different vegan breakfast every day for a year and never have to resort to fake eggs.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Then vegans need to get over themselves.
To try to get a balanced diet they are eating so much processed food to try to match what we get from a piece of cheese or an egg.
They talk about it being more environmentally friendly, however how many of these ingredients that you growing, then cutting, and processing the hell out of them are you using. You "egg" is made from an acre of Soybeans, don't you feel good about yourself, with a good portion of it going to waste. While my Egg is from a chicken that has eaten 1 acre of feed and produced hundreds of eggs during its lifetime. And the chicken works as a rather efficient little factory of making eggs.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
We're talking about vegans here, though, and if they enjoy their breakfasts so much, why do they need fake eggs? What's wrong with their normal vegan breakfast that they have to eat fake animal protein?
They aren't making egg replacements to cater to vegans. Think of all of the processed food like mayo, cookies, etc. which contains eggs. If they can create a cheaper, effective replacement for eggs then it would reduce the demand for factory farm produced eggs (which is how a majority of all eggs are produced).
We're talking about vegans here, though, and if they enjoy their breakfasts so much, why do they need fake eggs? What's wrong with their normal vegan breakfast that they have to eat fake animal protein?
They aren't making egg replacements to cater to vegans. Think of all of the processed food like mayo, cookies, etc. which contains eggs. If they can create a cheaper, effective replacement for eggs then it would reduce the demand for factory farm produced eggs (which is how a majority of all eggs are produced).
Having been to one of those factory farms... or rather, having been within olfactory range of one, I can't say I don't like the idea of obsoleting them.
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It would also provide an egg-free option for those of us who are allergic to eggs.
Carbon produced in food production is apparently greater than carbon produced in consumer transportation like cars. The non-egg food product is aimed at one of the most costly food production consumers, henhouses. The interest, and active investment, of Bill Gates, Li Ka-shing and Vinod Khosla indicates they RTFA.
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For those of us who eat dead animals, eggs are health food. I eat 5-6 eggs a day for breakfast. Sometimes more later when I'm feeling lazy. I lost 40lbs and my cholesterol panels went form heart-attack-soon to teen age athlete levels.
All this stupid "Don't eat eggs or fat" bullshit is literally killing us.
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Most vegan foods are quite inefficient when compared with something like eggs
This is completely and totally false. You probably consider yourself a rational and thoughtful person. But right now you're just making things up so that you don't have to think about the choices you've made. That's sad.
But they need those extra resources to feel good about themselves. A neutron bomb to San Francisco should eliminate lots of smug and the risk of a smug storm.
It's easy to dismiss vegans if you decide they're smug jerks before you actually hear any of their arguments. This is called "Do-Gooder Derogation":
http://www.humaneresearch.org/content/do-gooder-derogation-disparaging-morally-motivated-minorities-defuse-anticipated-reproach
Maybe you should actually do research next time? You won't, of course. You've already decided that you want to eat meat and other animal products. And your mind will perform whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to allow for that.
Then vegans need to get over themselves
Stereotypes aside, can I just point out that the overwhelming majority of I-know-what's-good-for-you self-righteousness in these comments isn't coming from the vegans?
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Ignoring that we are omnivores is unethical. Vegan is just a large fad clique based on marketing over science.
Kind of reminds me of the country side of my family complaining about city folk who move out their way. "First they move outside the city, then they complain about the smell of cow shit, where did they think they were moving?"
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Meateater here, and I absolutely agree with the above. I love vegetarian meals and dishes too (vegan is rarer, I love cheese), not every meal has to have meat. Anything that tries to emulate meat (or a different type of meat, eg. turkey ham, beef sausages) is diabolical. Spinach and ricotta is sublime (though again, not vegan obviously), and I've made decent tomato/bean/mushroom curries too (which would have been vegan without the bit of butter to fry in, which could easily be replaced).
Anyway, my point is that meat is meat and although there's nothing like a good steak, there are loads of good vegan meals everyone should be eating sometimes, and even more vegetarian meals. Fake meat should never be eaten by someone who eats meat... there's no point. If I were vegetarian or vegan, I would definitely not eat that processed crap still.
Is that so? I wonder what happens with a person if he/she grew with normal diet and was put on vegan? I am not sure this is entirely healthy...
The Dutch are the tallest nation on earth because they eat very protein rich stuff [diary products]. That was on the news not so long ago...and you know what - funny but taller people are more successful in life. It's probably due to cognitive bias, the same one that makes people forgive the trespasses of beautiful people more readily that those of ugly people. So there is something in us that values height and perhaps it is connected via something like [illustration only example] "tall person - has access to protein rich food - good mate".
Also funny that all vegetarians I know [not even vegans] are on average not very tall or wide and honestly will have a difficulty to compete with meat eaters if we were in the "kill or be killed" situation.
So, as the food supplies begin to dwindle [they will eventually as will everything in a finite system with infinite growing demand] we will see more and more propaganda to switch to "eco food" like insects, microorganisms ans so on. It totally amazes me when people nonchalantly say "well, if we want to feed the ever growing population we will have to switch the menu" and no no one says "why are we so stupid to continue our infinite growth".
So 3 billion meat eaters on earth or 6 billion vegetarians or 10 billion vegans or 20 billion fungi eaters [numbers purely for illustration] - why one is "better" than the other? The impact on the eco system would be the same. Actually more because those 20 billion might still want heating, clothing and mobile phones...
I think however, that one IS better than the rest - namely the largest number possible that gives everyone the richest and healthiest diet possible in a sustainable manner, according to who we are.
Who are we? We are omnivorous and without meat we won't be even here. I will not go into details, since my knowledge is not professional but I have heard many times that meat eating [also very important - fish eating] gave us the spare energy to grow the brains that made us human. Cooking the food was the next revolution. With more concentrated source of food you need less of digestive system so you can shrink it while expanding other parts of the body. I see in my mouth the cutters of the rabbit, the canines of the tiger and the molars of the cow. And I ain't going to argue with 4 billion years of evolution and will oppose those who not only fight it but do it for the wrong reasons.
In conclusion I would rephrase the OP. "Forcing or manipulating people or society to not be omnivorous [as we want, please, are entitled to and, if you are religious, were made to be] is dangerous, useless and often stupid and could be therefore be called unethical".