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Ask The Linux Foundation's Executive Director Jim Zemlin What You Will

In addition to sponsoring the work of Linus Torvalds, The Linux Foundation supports and promotes a wide variety of resources and services for Linux. Their recently released 2014 Linux Jobs Report surveyed more than 1,000 managers and corporations, finding in part, that the demand for "Linux Professionals" was up 70% from last year. Jim Zemlin is the Executive Director of the Linux Foundation and he has agreed to answer any questions that you have about the report and the state of Linux in general. As usual, ask as many as you'd like, but please, one question per post.

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  1. Oblig by oodaloop · · Score: 1, Troll

    What year will be known as The Year of Linux on the Desktop?

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    1. Re:Oblig by Immerman · · Score: 1

      Well, for me it was 2005. What, you think I should care what *you're* using on *your* desktop? How does that affect me? Most of the software I want to use comes in Linux-native flavors, and most of the rest runs fine under WINE.

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    2. Re:Oblig by bobbied · · Score: 1

      What year will be known as The Year of Linux on the Desktop?

      Answer: Next Year! ALWAYS it is next year...

      But it's closer than cold fusion, which is at least a decade out..

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  2. Fragmentation by advid.net · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Regarding Linux kernel...

    Is there a fear of some kind of fragmentation after Linus leadership ends ?

    I'm not saying Linus will stop leading anytime soon, but this will happen one day for sure.

    Maybe not a fear, but concerns, ..., call it.

  3. Re:I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I want to know what he thinks of the new SlashDot beta

    He thinks it sucks. Everyone thinks it sucks.

  4. Red Hat's #1 customer is the Pentagon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is there an impact on Linux, is the development being influenced by US Department of Defense and NSA?

    Conspiratorial view on Linux security:

    Since then, more has happened to reveal the true story here, the depth of which surprised even me. The GTK development story and the systemd debate on Debian revealed much corporate pressure being brought to bear in Linux. [...] Some really startling facts about Red Hat came to light. For me the biggest was the fact that the US military is Red Hat's largest customer:

    "When we rolled into Baghdad, we did it using open source," General Justice continued. "It may come as a surprise to many of you, but the U.S. Army is 'the' single largest install base for Red Hat Linux. I'm their largest customer." (2008)

    This is pretty much what I had figured. I'm not exactly new to this, and I figured that in some way the military-industrial/corporate/intelligence complex was in control of Red Hat and Linux. [...] But I didn't expect it to be stated so plainly. Any fool should realize that "biggest customer" doesn't mean tallest or widest, it means the most money. IOW, most of Red Hat's money comes from the military - they have first say in its development. And the connection between the military and spying agencies, etc. should be obvious.

    Next, a reader posted this FOSDEM: NSA Operation ORCHESTRA Annual Status Report. Well worth watching in its entirety (including the Q&A at the end), to me this turned out to be a road-map detailing how Red Hat is operating on Linux!

  5. Keeping the eco system coherent by daurtanyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the Linux foundation doing anything to insure the various distributions each incorporate the improvements done in the various distributions?

    I'm worried about the long term branching side effects. We have Debian, Red Hat, Oracle, and others adding functions and improvements.

    What is being done to insure both hybrid vigor and "re-mainlining" of promising branches?

  6. Why Not Zoidberg? by mlw4428 · · Score: 1

    Couldn't Linux do that as well then?

    1. Re:Why Not Zoidberg? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      No.

  7. Stallman by slapout · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many times has Richard Stallman emailed you to tell you it should be called "The GNU/Linux Foundation"?

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  8. Driver support by unixisc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    One thing I'm curious about - is the Linux Foundation keeping a tab to ensure that driver support is there for as many devices as possible under Linux, so that the chances of something not working under Linux is minimal? This is obviously not an issue w/ Windows, since device manufacturers target it for their devices, but one can easily see devices not being recognized by Linux. Sometimes, the recognition may vary from one version to other, or distro to distro. What, if anything, does the Linux foundation do to ensure maximum coverage, regardless of version or device?

    A related thing I was interested in knowing - usually, there are version mismatches if one tries to install a certain version of ALSA on a certain version of Linux. Can't sound be made an integral part of the Linux kernel so that one doesn't need to install ALSA or Pulse Audio or other such workarounds?

    1. Re:Driver support by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      ALSA is part of the kernel. PulseAudio is a userspace layer that works with ALSA drivers (in the kernel) to route and control sound from sound-producing processes to hardware devices. For almost everyone these days, it works just fine.

  9. Fight against patent trolls & FUD spreaders? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a number of companies that have been attacking Linux with patent claims and FUD to make the OS less attractive to manufacturers and even companies acting as end users. Some even demanded fees or a tax for the usage of Linux to avoid litigation, reaching secret agreements instead of invalidating the patents or working around them. This doesn't benefit Linux at all, leaves it under a bad light and leaves a uncertainty that a company can get sued anytime for using the OS in their products. Why does the Linux Foundation not react to this, or if it does what has been done so far and what will be done in future? Have you considered leading such fight, or rising funds (crowd-funding) to invalidate patents? Can the secret agreements between companies be stopped in any way to not cause more harm to Linux? Like if a company claims that Linux violates their patents push them to know exactly which ones and work around them.

  10. Uniformity b/w distros by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Can the Linux Foundation do anything to ensure that there is some uniformity b/w distros? For instance, for some of them, one can find certain configuration files available under /etc/, and w/ other distros, they get moved about. Can the Linux Foundation set up a definition where things just have to be in certain locations, regardless of distro, and certain commands that just have to work, regardless of distro? The distro makers can innovate outside these parameters, but to be recognized as 'Linux', they absolutely have to follow certain conventions? In short, have something like UNIX's branding program, maybe w/o the fees?

    1. Re:Uniformity b/w distros by paulatz · · Score: 1

      Can the Linux Foundation set up a definition where things just have to be in certain locations, regardless of distro, and certain commands that just have to work, regardless of distro?

      like lsb?

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  11. political barriers to functionality by bzipitidoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are many things Linux can't do thanks to political barriers, not technical ones. An example is backing up or just playing a copy protected DVD. CSS and region encoding are easily overcome. It's schemes like ARccOS that cause difficulties. Another example is the mess NVidia and AMD/ATI have made of graphics drivers. Theyve pledged to improve, but they've dragged their feet so much one wonders how serious they are. Maybe no legitimate business will ever again dare to pull stunts like Sony's music CDs with the root kit, and Turbo Tax's fooling around with the zero sector of their customers' hard drives, but they aren't yet scared or enlightened enough to stop trying other crap.

    Many software and hardware companies feel they can safely ignore libre OSes. Worse, some still view libre as antithetical to standard business practices, and a death sentence for their business if they so much as use it. To them, libre is hippie pinko Communist. The walled gardens of the likes of Microsoft and Apple are philosophically more comfortable. They don't just accidentally create software that cannot be easily ported, they purposely do that.

    How do you get businesses and people to play ball with libre software? I want the attitudes that go with intellectual property and copy protection to die, and the very concepts to be so abhorrent that no self-respecting business will ever again think it an ethical and righteous thing to do. Freedom of speech and religion are accepted and enforced. Freedom of knowledge deserves the same.

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    1. Re:political barriers to functionality by JimSadler · · Score: 1

      Freedom is somewhat of an up hill struggle. Placing barriers in learning or information is just one facet of a very ugly jewel. Fear of change is the great epidemic in America. The fact that we need change doesn't seem to be taken into account at all. Think of how restricted most people are in regard to raising their own food. Housing has been subordinated to business and huts and shacks are not allowed yet we can not house our citizens. Our streams and rivers have been too polluted to be able to eat fish as a staple and even if we are lucky and live near a clean stream the fish have been slaughtered by policies of over population such that we have too many fishermen hunting the fish. Our public schools are a mess and most parents are actually hazardous to their children in a thousand ways. Miami just had a man perish from hypothermia. Folks Miami is almost always nasty, hot and humid. But some winters we get a few days near the 40 degree F. mark. The poor guy had climbed into a dumpster to try to insulate himself with trash and died from the cold in that dumpster. A few years ago Miami used to dump the dead, poor people in the garbage mountain that serves Miami. As that pile is the high spot in the county members of the public started seeing bodies ooze half way out of the smoldering pine boxes while they had their morning coffee on their patios and balconies. Seriously we do need a lot more freedom and a lot more responsability as well. Meanwhile the old reform school in Mariana, Florida just found five more bodies to add to the fifty five already found. It seems that back in the day these teenage males were disciplined to death rather routinely. Palm Beach fl. found a grave yard while repairing a street. It seems that 8,000 souls who died in a hurricane were buried in unmarked graves as they were not white but in general brown or black farm workers killed in a hurricane back about 1940 or so. Those casualties were kept quite secret as tourism and investment would have suffered if other states knew how many died in that storm. locals say 50,000 were probably killed. We really need to do a lot better.

  12. Network Security by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    What if anything do you think Linux should do to improve network security?

    The reason I ask this question is runtime environments allow and require (depending on the tools your using) programmers to be experts in memory management and systems programming, but by and large the vast majority are not. This leads to zero day exploits hiding in various applications - including application layer parts of the OS. Is anyone giving thought to prevention, instead of chasing bugs after the fact, and what will that look like in the future?

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  13. Should your foundation fund development of a new by Marrow · · Score: 1

    security model? One that will allow users to invoke lightweight sandboxes for untrusted applications like browsers? Linux has the opportunity to be the leader in this field. Should your foundation push for it?

  14. Consolidation vs. Freedom of Choice by trydk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know Linux is all about freedom, especially freedom of choice, but is The Linux Foundation doing anything actively to encourage consolidation instead of fragmentation to avoid the situation Randall Munroe describes in xkcd?

    The current situation: Distributions galore, a profusion of system initialization versions from simple to incomprehensible, a plethora of desktop metaphors (probably stopping this year and next year from being The Year of the Linux Desktop), ...

    1. Re:Consolidation vs. Freedom of Choice by soki22 · · Score: 1

      I know Linux is all about freedom, especially freedom of choice, but is The Linux Foundation doing anything actively to encourage consolidation instead of fragmentation to avoid the situation Randall Munroe describes in xkcd? The current situation: Distributions galore, a profusion of system initialization versions from simple to incomprehensible, a plethora of desktop metaphors (probably stopping this year and next year from being The Year of the Linux Desktop), ...

      You

    2. Re:Consolidation vs. Freedom of Choice by soki22 · · Score: 1

      You

  15. Re:I want to know by Immerman · · Score: 1

    Don't be hyperbolic. Plenty of people have no desire to visit Slashdot and couldn't care less.

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  16. Re:Is 2014 by bobbied · · Score: 1

    No, that's planned for NEXT year...

    it's ALWAYS next year..

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  17. Re:An important question... by bobbied · · Score: 1

    Why does Linux seem like a solution looking for a problem?

    Because you obviously don't know how to ask the right questions and have failed to understand history. Where do you think Micro$oft would be if they hadn't had a better target to shoot for? Linux, if nothing else, is that target. So like it or not, Linux has helped even Windows users get better software.

    Also, LInux is used more in consumer devices than you might imagine. Linux is light weight, consumes less resources and provides excellent network support which makes it ideal for routers, "smart" TV's, phones, and appliances of all kinds. It flies your airplanes, provides your entertainment and touches the vast majority of data flowing over the internet. You literally could NOT live without it very long. (unless you grow your own food and are 100% off grid).

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  18. Re:Jim, what do you think of Slashdot Beta? by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    No need to change Slashdot at all. The old way works great and I would like it to stay that way.

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  20. When will Linux be as easy to install as Windows? by X!0mbarg · · Score: 2
    It seems one of the Biggest Obstacles to getting Linux on more desktops is simply that most users are unable to get it running without consulting a guru.

    That's one of the main reasons I have never even tried to get into Linux on my own...

  21. Which sucks more by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Which sucks more, systemd or slashdot beta?

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    1. Re:Which sucks more by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Which sucks more, systemd or slashdot beta?

      Dice overlords!

      Yeah, I know, off-topic. Back under the bridge. [mumbles obscenities in multiple languages]

  22. Re:When will Linux install and auto-compile based by andyhhp · · Score: 1

    When will Linux auto-detect the 'static' components of the hardware and do an install with a kernel compiled and optimized for that hardware - along with a vanilla kernel for emergency backup? (Something like Gentoo does)

    Never - it is not in a general distros best interest. It is hard enough keeping on top of the kernel bugs with a signle configuration in use, let alone customising it to everyones hardware. Anyway, when it comes to drivers, the optimisations you can do are "dont load drivers you dont need", which is what already happens

  23. Riddle me this... by multimediavt · · Score: 2

    Why is Linux still less than 1% of the desktop market that it was supposed to dominate so assuredly some, oh, 20 years ago?

    1. Re:Riddle me this... by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Honestly, not trying to be snarky (overly anyway). I would really like to know your thoughts on why you think Linux is where it is today in the installed desktop landscape when it has had so much potential for nigh on two decades. Sure, places like Munich and now there's another municipality making the switch, but that's still a drop in the bucket compared to the other two major operating systems.

    2. Re:Riddle me this... by yannbane · · Score: 1

      But Linux already dominates. Most used mobile OS. Powers the entire internet. Most used web-facing server OS. Literally the only viable OS for serious scientific computation. Very popular amongst developers. Used more and more on appliances. Also it's less than 1% on the desktop only if you subscribe to agencies on Microsoft's pay. It's over 1.5% from what I've gathered.

  24. Kernel Documentation by Da_Slayer · · Score: 2

    What is being done to improve the Linux Kernel documentation in both structure and completeness?

    A good white paper was already written about what needs to be improved and yet the mailing list discussions are just endless bike shedding. Here is the white paper:
    https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols... There appears to be no person who the buck stops with. Furthermore based on 3 years of reading the mailing list I seriously doubt more than 2-5 people on the mailing list actually understand what good documentation is, let alone how to write it.

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  25. Re:When will Linux be as easy to install as Window by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Textual interaction with programs is the default, which is perfectly normal to a programmer, but completely opaque to the uninitiated.

    No it isn't; your post sounds like you just stepped out of 1997 at the very latest. My wife uses Linux every day, and has absolutely no clue how to use the command line. Thanks to KDE, she doesn't have to; for web browsing, working with office documents, basic file management, and other basic computer uses, it serves her purposes perfectly, without all the annoyances and headaches that come with Windows.

    If being able to (god help you) fine tune your init scripts doesn't strike a deep chord of joy in your heart, then Linux may not be for you.

    This is total crap. You don't have to be able to mess with init scripts (which are going away soon anyway with systemd), or anything else of the sort, to be a regular Linux user. Lots of corporate and government office workers use Linux every day and don't mess with any kind of system administration tasks. That stuff is all available, and isn't going anywhere (provided you have root access, not something you'd get on a normal office machine, but which you would retain on your home system), but it isn't necessary at all with a modern distro.

  26. User representation with the Linux Foundation by Gbor · · Score: 1

    OpenStack has been compared to Linux a lot lately and justifiable so. I'd be interested in your thoughts on what the Linux Foundation can learn from the structures built within the OpenStack Foundation. Specifically, the OpenStack Foundation has a User Committee with the mission to look after the user's interest. That is: not developers, nor industry partners but users. Would you consider a similar function to be the Linux Foundation's concern?