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Free (Gratis) Version of Windows Could Be a Reality Soon

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft is exploring whether to release a free version of Windows to increase the number of computers using the latest operating system. Currently the company seems to be testing a new version of the OS called 'Windows 8.1 with Bing', which will include Microsoft's key modern apps and services."

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  1. Kinda funny by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember when Bill Gates said that if software were being pirated, he would prefer that it was HIS software being pirated. He wanted to hook them now, so that he could charge them later.

    I guess there aren't enough pirates being hooked, so now they have to give it away gratis.

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    1. Re:Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      he would prefer that it was HIS software being pirated

      It's not gratis - you have to use Bing. This is about "just fucking killing Google", not about replacing pirated versions.

      This thread will be full of Microsofties telling you to use Windows Bing version for all your porn surfing needs. It's their one remaining niche, aparently.

    2. Re:Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I use Bing for most of my searches -- I work for Microsoft.

      But I use Google for porn. Just in case they're tracking me.

    3. Re:Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I didn't believe all the hype about Bing. "Nothing can beat Google," I thought. But one day, I decided to give Bing a try. The result? Bing alerted me that my cancer could be cured with three simple steps, and sure enough, my cancer vanished by following those exact steps! Wow! Thanks, Bing! You saved my life! I'm not a rabid, frothing Binger and use Bing for all my searching needs!

      Don't believe me? Bing it on, you worthless piece of human garbage! Wow! You Bingless hippies must live in caves! Get out of my sight; you're utterly worthless!

    4. Re:Kinda funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Er, no, he didn't go to law school. He went to Harvard without picking a major and then dropped out. While there he published a paper on some relatively well-known problem in combinatorics, I believe, which certainly seems to suggest that he was not taking a typical "pre-law" undergrad course-load, either.

    5. Re:Kinda funny by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, there are more then enough pirates today, simply because there was a period for last couple of years when it was so hard to get win7. It got pirated to heaven and back during this period. Take a look at TPB, you'll find 7 in all possible flavors you could ever desire.

      Win8 on the other hand, I'd pay not to get with my new computer, which is what many today are doing by paying up to win8 pro license so they can upgrade the machine to windows 7.

      So it makes sense to give basic 8 away for free. No one who can help it is buying it anyway.

    6. Re:Kinda funny by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give me a bing, Vasili. One bing only, please.

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    7. Re:Kinda funny by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Strange how all those people pirating win 7 get their updates just fine according to the comment section of TPB on the most popular windows 7 torrent I just searched for to fact check this statement.

      Could be they're all lying and it's a grand conspiracy. I'm going to go with more likely scenario - that pirate crowd have long cracked the protection and are enjoying their DRM free stuff as usual while the rest of us have to live with it.

    8. Re:Kinda funny by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I remember when Bill Gates said that if software were being pirated, he would prefer that it was HIS software being pirated. He wanted to hook them now, so that he could charge them later.

      I guess there aren't enough pirates being hooked, so now they have to give it away gratis.

      I suspect that they will have trouble even giving Windows 8.x away.

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    9. Re:Kinda funny by davester666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's the sound that occurs when you hit a cheap aluminum frying pan with a wood spoon.

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    10. Re:Kinda funny by invictusvoyd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Spoon boy: Do not try and bing the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
      Neo: What truth?
      Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
      Neo: There is no spoon?
      Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bings, it is only yourself.

    11. Re:Kinda funny by Hamsterdan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not true. They are ways to activate 7 in a permanent fashion (SLIC comes to mind), or other ways via searching for Windows Activator. And yes, a hacked win7 *will* auto update

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    12. Re:Kinda funny by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      " you can't just install linux as the ONLY OS for grandma and expect them to never call you back."

      Why? I did and it works so far.... she called back a couple of times and once she figured out that she really does not want to install "coupon Printer.exe" because that is what infected her computer last time.... All was good.

      She wanted to upgrade to something smaller, I got her a chrome book. All is happy and right in the world.

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  2. Free as in... by Danzigism · · Score: 4, Informative

    beer?

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    1. Re:Free as in... by PNutts · · Score: 5, Funny

      beer?

      No, free as in bend over.

  3. It's an old method ... by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first hit is free.

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  4. Is Win 8.1 that bad? by Advocatus+Diaboli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the history of MS trying to squeeze every last cent out of their captive audience, a free version of Win 8.1 (even one bundled with bing') sounds like desperation.

    1. Re:Is Win 8.1 that bad? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Insightful

      YES!

    2. Re:Is Win 8.1 that bad? by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And what if even the free version is a failure? Can't give it away...

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    3. Re:Is Win 8.1 that bad? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And what if even the free version is a failure? Can't give it away...

      That's the thing. When I hear people complaining about Windows 8, it's *never* about the price. Lots of people just flat out hate the product.

      I really doubt making it free is going to significantly impact adoption rates.

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    4. Re:Is Win 8.1 that bad? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And what if even the free version is a failure? Can't give it away...

      That's the thing. When I hear people complaining about Windows 8, it's *never* about the price. Lots of people just flat out hate the product.

      I really doubt making it free is going to significantly impact adoption rates.

      If their first impression is based on trying a friends computer running "Windows 8.1 + Adware", it will probably make them hate it even more

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    5. Re:Is Win 8.1 that bad? by Progman3K · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ironic, isn't it? After saying that linux was free because it was worthless, microsoft finally admits its own os is worthless by giving it away in hopes of losing no further shares to linux because people have come to realize linux is priceless

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  5. Ugly Stuff by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Windows with Bing, super invasive, super troll advertising, super restrictions on what applications you can install and super restrictions on where you can source content. You just know M$ will go wildly over the top in that regard, so xbox in a computer with compulsory M$ bling 'er' bing. Except you have paid full price for the hardware and by taking free you are actually shifting ownership and control of that device from yourself to M$.

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    1. Re:Ugly Stuff by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd argue the opposite. Classic microsoft was "just pay us and we don't care what you do with it".

      Contrasted with Google's "we'll data mine everything you ever do until we know that you're gay before you do" and apple's manic desire to control how their OS looks and interacts with the user, I'd argue that in this particular aspect, microsoft is (was?) definitely the best of those three consumer OS giants.

  6. Just take the DRM out... by ArcadeNut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Keep charging for Windows, but remove the Product Activation and "Genuine Advantage" crap. Then let the pirates go wild. People will Pirate it thinking they are getting something for Nothing, and those that still pay for Windows, will be gravy for you.

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    1. Re:Just take the DRM out... by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the service is free, then you are the "product".

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  7. Windows 8 isnt Terrible Enough? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, Windows 8 isn't bad enough? Now they want to make it worse by turning it into an ad supported monstrosity?

    I'd be impressed with the level of idiocy if it wasn't so pathetic.

  8. How about selling something consumers want? by JDG1980 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny, but I never remember hearing about Microsoft having to give away Windows XP or Windows 7. (Sure, there was stuff like educational licenses, but those were for specific and clear marketing purposes.) If Microsoft has to literally give away Windows 8 to get people to use it, isn't that a blatant admission of failure? Why do they feel the need to keep digging themselves deeper into this hole?

    1. Re:How about selling something consumers want? by Luckyo · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was successful as windows 7. Not "as successful as..." Literally. People bought to 8's pro license and used it to install 7.

      The word play is hilarious because it's true.

  9. Bing it on! by Thraxy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man it's like a dream come true. Windows 8 interface AND Bing! Maybe they can bundle it onto free software downloads, like they do with the Conduit/Bingbar browser hijack. Then we won't even have to download it ourselves. Man that's top notch service!

  10. It might work... by Virtucon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clearly a strategy to erode the Chrome book. With Google clamping down now within Chrome, it won't be too long before they have a hefty market share and lock in with their Chrome Web Store. Recent releases of chrome now deactivate extensions from third parties that don't come from their Web Store, so they're corralling ISVs into their BS Walled Garden strategy which is bad for Chrome but great for Google. I can see Microsoft wanting to play in that arena as well, Bing based browser with the Microsoft Store that still doesn't allow you delete your apps though.

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  11. I heartily concur with your assessment. by chilvence · · Score: 4, Funny

    Javascript "Apps" are the reason I just had to replace my perfectly serviceable 10 year old Athlon XP machine before it physically broke down from exhaustion. Every machine I have had before I have had the pleasure of using until it caught fire from overuse. The smell of burning capacitors is still fresh in my nostrils after all these years. Fuck Apps. Fuck them in the anus with a cactus. And for that matter, fuck my spell checker for insisting that it should be written as "JavaScript".

  12. It'll be short-lived by Torin+Darkflight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If Microsoft does indeed go through with a truly "free" version of Windows, I anticipate that it won't be long until they panic and decide to kill it because "it's diluting their profits from Windows". That's what happened to the free (and admittedly quite limited) version of Office 2010 they put out. As restricted as Office Starter was compared to the retail version, it was still "good enough" for many people, myself included. This supposedly began eroding their profits for Office. By the time Office 2013 came around, they had decided that they didn't like the idea of having a free version of a flagship product eating into potential sales, so they axed it. I imagine a free version of Windows would meet the same short-lived fate. Yes, I agree with the general consensus that Windows 8.x is terrible compared to 7 or even Vista. BUT, just like with Office Starter, there will be many people for which a free version of Windows, restrictions and all, is "good enough" for them. This will eat into their sales of Windows even further (If that's even possible at this point considering the failure that is Windows 8), and they'll panic and decide to axe it to forcefully regain their flow of income.

    With all that said, I will admit I'm curious to see how this plays out re: their method of releasing a free version of Windows. With Office Starter, it was (officially) only available pre-installed on new computers and (technically) could not be downloaded. If they release free Windows as a downloadable ISO, that might garner a little more adoption, but not much considering Win8's reputation. But, if they go the same route they took with Office Starter and make it only available on new computers, then really the only benefit would be a lower-priced PC, albeit with the added cost of having to deal with ads. Kinda like what Amazon has done with certain models of the Kindle.

    1. Re:It'll be short-lived by Torin+Darkflight · · Score: 3, Informative

      Indeed, and 8.1 IS free to existing users of Windows 8. But it definitely is too big to be considered a service pack, yet also not enough of an update to be considered a proper new version.

      One thing that bugs me about Windows 8.1 currently is that there is no legitimate way (to the best of my knowledge) to walk into a computer store and buy a DVD copy of Windows 8.1 (Only Windows 8), or even download the Win8.1 installer or an ISO and burn it to a DVD or flash drive for later use, it's only available though the "Microsoft Store" for immediate installation at the time of download. I fix computers as a side job. What if someone brings a computer that has been upgraded to Win8.1 to me and they need me to do a repair install of the OS? I can't do that without Win8.1 media of some sort, so my only option is a total reformat and reinstall of vanilla Win8, followed by a lengthy update process to Win8.1. There is no way as far as I am aware to slipstream Win8.1 into the ISO for Win8. Plus, there's no guarantee Win8.1 will remain a free update forever, so if Microsoft decides to yank that free update path, then PC techs like me and our customers would be screwed.

  13. Free 8.1? by no-body · · Score: 3, Interesting

    update on top of W8 that is..

    Experience so far:

    Acrobat reader crashes reliably
    Essential VPN in VMware images no longer works.

    Consequence:
    Restore W 8 from backup

    Cost? Lots of time lost on this BS!

    Maybe they need to give it away for free so people are less upset if they get burnt - you get what you pay for and get sucked on with ads and/or giving up your privacy.

    Ah - and this BING desktop or whatever it is was never installed.

  14. There's no such thing as free with Microsoft by oscrivellodds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real cost of a Microsoft OS is the hours you'll spend waiting for reboots due to "updates" and just trying to keep it running.

    My time is worth more than that.

  15. The Inferior Windows Hook by ikhider · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Windows has multiple versions of their OS, from low-end, to 'pro', to 'ultimate'. Windows deliberately makes lesser versions inferior in the hope users will pay for a better version. It is a pity they do not bother to make and offer the best version. One of the many reasons proprietary OS' must be done away with.

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  16. Drug dealer business model by FuzzNugget · · Score: 3, Funny

    To bad it only works when your selling a drug people actually want. This one gives you a *reeeally* bad trip.

  17. Re:I could use it by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I tried. Really. I read your post three times. I still have no idea what point you are making. Is it that Linux sucks? Win 7 sucks? Win 8 sucks? Truth: They all suck, in their own ways. Pick the type of poison you like best. You don't have to pick just one!

    I use Red Hat Linux to get "real work" done, where "real work" consists of serving ridiculous amounts of complex data to tens of thousands of users with numerous nines of uptime. I use Windows to play video games and watch cat videos. I use Android to send texts or find the nearest hotel when traveling.

    As with most things, pick the right tool for the job.

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  18. Re:I could use it by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I need MS VS, MS expressions web, ventrillo, star wars the old republic, and yes sadly office as my resume won't be formatted correctly with any other package.

    Office works very well with under Wine. I use it myself on Linux. Also, why would you send a resume in an editable format? Do you want them to see your editing history? PDF would be better. The page format doesn't slide around and it's universal.

  19. Re:Why bother? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Funny

    You guys and all your posturing had better be careful. Win 8.1 isn't anywhere near as bad as you make out. You'll blow your credo with regular folks who, you know, actually try it and find 8.1 to be ok.

    It's cool to carry on here at Slashdot I suppose.

  20. Re:Nope by HuguesT · · Score: 3, Informative

    The advantages are several, here are a few I can think of (not that I practice them myself !)

    1- You can use your Windows installation in both a real and a virtual machine. Some VM engines allow you to run off a physical disk, like VMWare. If you dual-boot from Linux or OSX, sometime you want to use your windows installation to check out some software and you do not want to reboot and lose your current work. With the DRM version of Windows, you would need two licenses, even though you are never using both at the same time.

    2- You can change your hardware anyway you want. The DRM version will unregister itself if you change the CPU, the motherboard, too many disks, the graphics card, and whatnot. You have to re-register by telephone, which is a huge hassle and may stop working if you do it too often.

    3- You can carry over your installation of Windows to your new computer (same issue as #2, really).

    4- Why do you need as many licenses of Windows if you have say 3 computers but only ever use one at any given time ? Say one at work, one at your SO, and one at home, if you are self-employed?

    Basically Windows is behind the time. Linux is free and good, and OSX is becoming more and more gratis (not libre, unfortunately).