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India Plans Mission To Probe Sun By 2020
An anonymous reader writes "India is planning a mission to probe the Sun before 2020. The nation launched a Moon mission a few years ago and sent a Mars mission late last year. From the article: 'Indian Space Research Organization has lined up over a dozen missions, including its first probe on the Sun, Isro chairman K Radhakrishnan said on Friday. Though, the mission to probe the Sun was already on the cards, the agency now has a clear picture of its plan and had put a timeframe within which it hoped to undertake it, Radhakrishnan said, while addressing students at a private University here. He said the "Aditya" mission to the Sun had been planned between 2017 and 2020.'"
How are they to withstand the heat and gravity sending a probe to the sun? Surely this is just to get close to take closeup pictures. But we have Helios for that. And will the probe be named the Icarus 1?
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They can now, because they're not a part of the British Empire anymore.
Ezekiel 23:20
Not really...
a.) India always does it cheaper.
b.) The capability will go towards providing commercial space services. Its a money maker, rather than a drain. India is already doing this.
c.) The problem India has now is not so much as not having money. It does not have non-corrupt institutions to properly distribute the resources. They will improve as education improves in subsequent generations who will then elect better politicians, demand cleaner systems and more effectively fight for their rights. Projects like these inspire students.
Because NASA totally waited until the US didn't have any homeless people before heading to space...
India does get foreign aid. But I would not call it "dependent".
Rape isn't comperable between countries. As Assange found out, consentual sex in sweeden can be "rape" and as such, the defintions are not uniform. And reported rapes are low in Saudi Arabia, where being raped is a capital crime. Some places encourage reported rapes, others discourage it, and the definition not being uniform leads to an inability to reliably compare rape statistics between countries.
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"... ice"
They won't need ice. They're going at night.
Actually India offers foreign aids to other foreign countries too. India is still a net gainer in foreign aid (receives more foreign aid, that it gives out to other countries), but calling them dependent on foreign aid is ridiculous. It is peanuts compared to their yearly budget.
Isn't that what Americans were saying about Apollo? Here you go:
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
(while Whitey's on the moon)
The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
('cause Whitey's on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
I wonder why he's uppi' me?
('cause Whitey's on the moon?)
I wuz already payin' 'im fifty a week.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Taxes takin' my whole damn check,
Junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin' up,
An' as if all that shit wuzn't enough:
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face an' arm began to swell.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Was all that money I made las' year
(for Whitey on the moon?)
How come there ain't no money here?
(Hmm! Whitey's on the moon)
Y'know I jus' 'bout had my fill
(of Whitey on the moon)
I think I'll sen' these doctor bills,
Airmail special
(to Whitey on the moon)
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Are you serious? Do you really think that this probe to the sun is going to result in better growing of crops? Seriously? Do you really think that India's money spent on a sun probe will result in more food than say the same investment in solar panels for a more steady electricity supply?
Yes, I do think that a probe into the sun to understand some of the environment which makes up the photosphere and the outer layers of the Sun better will indeed be far better spent money than dumping that into a bunch of foreign-made solar panels in some remote village to provide a steady supply of electricity. This is especially true for a country with as many people as live in India, where the individual investment into such a project is quite small per person and the pay-off can be so much more.
Try to learn about basic research and the benefits that have come from it. I certainly don't feel bad about myself feeling this way nor should SJHillman for that matter either. Basic research in space (including the stuff going on with the ISS) has been able to feed, clothe, and in general improve the overall standard of living for far more people than any other single endeavor in the past hundred years. It is literally saving lives, lives which in many cases can even be counted. I will even go so far as to suggest that we've only just started on the ways it can help humanity as a whole, and India in particular.
For this particular research in particular, it can help explain some of the non-anthroprogenic causes of global warming (IMHO something useful to know about too) and can certainly pave the way to help with much more accurate weather forecasts and other tools that can most certainly help out that village you are so concerned about. The pay-off for spending this money may take decades or even centuries to completely realize, but it will happen. A bit of a risk I suppose and knowing it is helping all of mankind at the same time rather than just the one village, but I certainly congratulate India on trying this project.
With all of the problems that exist in India, I don't see how they are going to get it done. Even if they do, at what ultimate cost? I think of all those who will suffer as a result of a government fools errand.
While I will admit India has some problems, they are an emerging country and certainly not the destitute poor that you are making it out to be. I also admire the Indian space program as something which really is a top rated endeavor that ranks right with China, Russia, and America. They have very competent rocket scientists that know how to put a vehicle into orbit, and really aren't all that far away from being able to successful launch crewed flights of their own if it wasn't for stupid and silly comments like yours who depict India as some poor unfortunate backwater country not worthy of anything but pity.
Heck, I am very impressed they are even considering this probe, and it represents a level of sophistication and ability which so far no other country on the Earth, not even America, has been able to accomplish. Getting something into the Sun takes more delta-v than a sample & return mission from Mars and in fact is harder than sending something into interstellar space like the Voyager missions. This literally is the frontier of human experience in any form and that by itself should speak volumes about what India is going to accomplish here.
India has more than a `homeless` problem; I don't see how you can equate the two, unless you're rather willfully ignoring the massive problems India is turning its back on to fund these `we're in the space-age club too` extravagances.
At some point India needs to leave the "we is stupid 'n need your money 'cause we dn't know better" attitude. If there is something that India needs, it is to give its people the freedom to do whatever it is that they do best and stop trying to coddle them. Defend people's right to life, liberty, and property but otherwise stay out of their affairs and let them succeed rather than making everybody a charity case.
I currently live in a place that a century ago was far more destitute and a much more harsh climate with a lack of basic resources than the poorest village in India right now. A century and a half ago the people here were so destitute that many starved to death and died from exposure, partly because of being driven out of their homes at gunpoint and forced to migrate hundreds of miles to live in a place that was largely depopulated because even nomadic hunter-gatherers had to move on due to drought. I don't think there is any excuse for India not to be able to solve its problems in due time, and in the meantime they have the resources and the capability of being able to send stuff into space too.
India certainly doesn't need your pity. It is gradually solving its problems over time and they are certainly not insurmountable.
North Korea Lands First Ever Man On The Sun
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To keep everything organized, I recommend that all posts mentioning going at night be arranged under this one.
Really ? .. just when does that begin ?
I thought Americas priority was subsidizing Monsanto, Exxon and helping out all those starving billionaires
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself." Mark Twain
Citation needed. Sex outside of marriage is referred to as "Zina" in Saudi Arabia, which is not a capital offense. Adultery is a subset of sex crime law, and is punished by flogging if unmarried, only married people qualify for capital punishment for adultery..
... you guys just have to make crude jokes ?
I mean, India has all the rights that all the other nations (whether it be USA or Russia) have to send their craft to Sun, Moon, Mars or wherever they want to send them to.
Or just because it's India that you guys think they'll somehow fucked up ?
The truth is everybody has had hick-ups in their own space missions - NASA included.
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
In related news - mission to feed the poor in India still dependent on foreign aid
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As far as I know, India actually sent foreign aids amounts to millions of dollars to African countries.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but a country which is rich enough and has the money to send aids to other countries suppose to be not receiving any more aids.
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
What nobody seems to be pointing out is that having a program to build rockets that can boost payloads into low earth orbit and beyond is exactly the kind of technology one needs to develop ICBMs and tends to be a bit more politically correct.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Just because your superpower is on the decline and no longer has the capability to do a manned space mission, you don't need to piss on the rising ones for taking their first steps. 40 years from now when they're mining asteroids and outsourcing their cheap crap to the USA, they might come back and rub your nose in it.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Correct which is why India will no longer receive aid in the amounts it was once given.
A Third-World country of religious crazies who have nuclear weapons announcing that they're pushing ahead with advanced missile
This is India not Pakistan. The government is strongly secular. If you are referring to some elements of the population, well the same description could cover America.