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Senator Accuses CIA of Snooping On Intelligence Committee Computers

An anonymous reader writes "Sen. Feinstein, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, publicly accused the CIA of inappropriately searching computers used by her committee, violating presidential directives, federal laws and the Fourth Amendment. The computers in question were provided by the CIA at an undisclosed CIA location for use by the members of the intelligence committee. When the committee staff received internal documents the CIA had not officially provided, the agency examined the computers used by the committee and removed the unauthorized documents. The action has been referred to the Justice Department for possible prosecution." There were rumors of such a few weeks ago, and now it's official. Read the transcript of her speech.

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  1. NOW it's a tragedy, NOW it's so sad to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the same Senator who crys "terrorists!" whenever people suggest reining in NSA surveillance of regular citizens.

    I have sympathy for her, and her arguments against being spied upon. Why does she not have sympathy for us, and for our arguments against being spied upon?

    1. Re:NOW it's a tragedy, NOW it's so sad to see... by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Interesting
      To be fair, she accuses the intelligence community of doing far more than simply spying on her.

      said the CIA had searched through computers belonging to staff members investigating the agency’s role in torturing detainees, and had then leveled false charges against her staff in an attempt to intimidate them. “I have grave concerns that the CIA’s search may well have violated the separation of powers principle embodied in the United States Constitution, including the speech and debate clause,” she said. “It may have undermined the constitutional framework essential to effective congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any other government function.”

      From the intercept.

      The intelligence community blackmailing the people who are supposed to have oversight of the intelligence community is probably at least a little more dangerous than the intelligence community spying on it's citizens. If for no other reason that the former prevents the latter from being solved. Pruning the CIA and NSA back to appropriate levels will require congressional action, and that's likely exactly what the CIA and/or NSA is trying to stop with these actions.

  2. Hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

    I don't think she even realizes how hypocritical she is. Surveillance and secrecy are all cool, unless they happen to apply to her. Then it is her -- "Fourth Amendment!"

  3. It's a she, not a he by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    That asshole's name is Dianne Feinstein, a staunchly pro-NSA, pro-BIG BROTHER senator.

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    1. Re:It's a she, not a he by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's good for the goose is good for the gander, I say it's time to double-down. If she's so against it, she clearly has something to hide.

    2. Re:It's a she, not a he by memojuez · · Score: 5, Informative

      You forget, Congress is full of elitists who didn't follow many of the Employment Laws and regulations (Equal Opportunity Employment, Affirmative Action, OSHA, etc) until it required itself in 1994. So, it only stands to reason that one of their ilk, regardless of Party affiliation, would evoke her 4th Amendment rights while gleefully trampling on ours.

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    3. Re:It's a she, not a he by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No shit! Congress happily gave Federal agencies powers to spy on virtually every human being on the planet, so they can fucking well live on the same sphere we do.

      Don't feel so great when the shoe is on the other foot, eh, Feinstein? Well, a big "fuck you" from the rest of the world.

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    4. Re:It's a she, not a he by Quila · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Neither the NRA or any other pro-rights organization needs to run a spear campaign against her. Merely factually pointing out her activities is quite enough to damage her reputation.

  4. While this is probably true... by edibobb · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Senator Feinstein has significantly less technological prowess than my cat, and has exhibited this on numerous occasions.

  5. Schadenfreude by fuzznutz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Excuse me for a moment while I savor this moment.

  6. I have no sympathy for that asshole ! by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have sympathy for her

    I have absolutely no sympathy for that piece of shit.

    She's a typical example of what is wrong with the government of the United States of America.

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  7. I won't hold my breath by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I say it's time to double-down

    You gotta understand that assholes like Dianne Feinstein doesn't think like us.

    She thinks she's in the 0.1% elite, and for that, she ought to have the immunity from the same BIG BROTHER that she has thrown her support for.

    As for us, asshole Feinstein look at us as if we are peons, slaves for the elites, that we do not have any right to enjoy the protection granted by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and that we ought to be stripped of everything, and kow-tow to her and her kinds.

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    1. Re:I won't hold my breath by WaffleMonster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As for us, asshole Feinstein look at us as if we are peons, slaves for the elites, that we do not have any right to enjoy the protection granted by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and that we ought to be stripped of everything, and kow-tow to her and her kinds.

      I sometimes wonder how monsters like Feinstein get any votes at all while the likes of Feingold can lose to a climate change denier. We have only ourselves to blame.

    2. Re:I won't hold my breath by mspohr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, she is in the 0.1% elite and got her money the true American way by inheritance, marriage, and political corruption:
      "On January 20, 1980, in San Francisco, California, finance capitalist Richard C. Blum (born in 1936) and the ambitious Democratic Party politician Dianne Feinstein (born 1933) were married in a wedding ceremony at San Francisco City Hall. This marriage created a family economic and political alliance that in a little over a decade would allow them to become the top power couple in the state of California with a place on the national and world stages. They remain at the pinnacle of power today, he as a billionaire financier, speculator, real estate executive and deal maker; she as the senior Senator (California’s highest federal official), from the largest and most powerful state in the United States. They exemplify power as it is now wielded in the higher circles of the class system of the U.S. today, and illustrate well the dismal results of this system. This system is best characterized as a plutocratic kleptocracy, completely lacking in authentic democracy, operated by and for corporate racketeers, in short, a dictatorship of big capital, the top 1% of wealth holders, which makes up a ruling class. "
      More background here:
      http://www.foundsf.org/index.p... ... and here:
      http://www.revolutimes.com/201...

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  8. Liz Cheney Syndrome by akirapill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your rights are only important when they're also my rights.

  9. Sure, I'm the idiot by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And so the NRA's smear campaign continues to influence idiots like you

    I am a card carrying member of both the NRA and the ACLU.

    I am an American who treasure the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and am willing to do anything and everything to protect my country from traitors such as that asshole Feinstein.

    If doing so makes me an "idiot", so be it, and I hope that America has more "idiots" like me than "geniuses" such as your kind.

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  10. This needed to be public by delcielo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Regardless of the hypocrisy of Feinstein, this turn of events needed to be made public.

    The CIA did something wrong. The Senate opened an investigation. The CIA accidentally sent them incriminating information, then deleted some after it had already been reviewed. The CIA agreed not to delete any more, then did it again. The Senate put some of this incriminating information into their official report and moved evidence to a secure location. The CIA didn't much care for that and started an investigation into how they got it, trumped up accusations of criminal conduct and have refused to accept the legitimate oversight role of the Senate. Hate Feinstein all you want, but don't dismiss this illegitimate action by the CIA because she's no angel herself.

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  11. This isn't spying, it's evidence tampering.... by pcwhalen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At the outset, let's look at the moral of the story: You can't trust spies or spy agencies. Especially not the way the Senator has consistently told us we should trust the NSA.

    The "CIA computers" were part of a document production system provided by the CIA pursuant to a Senate Committee subpoena. It contained CIA documents responsive to the Senate subpoena in electronic form instead of paper copies. The document depository was run by private contractors. That's not really that unusual.

    Apparently, when the CIA found out they had turned over to the Senate Committee a CIA draft report that was particularly harmful to the CIA's position, the draft report "disappeared" from the computerised document depository. The senior Senator from California believes the CIA caused it to disappear.

    It's like erasing portions of White House tapes that had been subpoenaed a la Nixon. Just because it was done by the CIA doesn't mean it was spying, merely criminal tampering with a federal investigation. That's all.

    Trust the CIA and the NSA. They will never over-reach or break the law.

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