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Russia Blocks Internet Sites of Putin Critics

An anonymous reader writes in with news about Russias censorship of internet sites critical of President Vladimir Putin. "Russia blocked access to the internet sites of prominent Kremlin foes Alexei Navalny and Garry Kasparov on Thursday under a new law critics say is designed to silence dissent in President Vladimir Putin's third term. The prosecutor general's office ordered Russian internet providers to block Navalny's blog, chess champion and Putin critic Kasparov's internet newspaper and two other sites, grani.ru and ej.ru, state regulator Roskomnadzor said. The move was the latest evidence of what government opponents see as a crackdown on independent media and particularly the internet, a platform for dissenting views in a nation where state channels dominate the airwaves. Ej.ru editor Alexander Ryklin called it 'monstrous' and a 'direct violation of all the principles of freedom of speech,' More at EFF, and in earlier stories at the The Huffington Post, and Deutsche Welle, which notes, 'This year's report by Reporters Without Borders on World Day against Cyber Censorship condemns Russia as one of the "Enemies of the Internet." "Russia has adopted dangerous legislation governing the flow of news and information and freedom of expression online," it concludes.'"

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  1. Reassembling the Soviet Union by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sadly, Russia is turning more and more to Soviet ways. Putin was even rehabilitating Stalin.

    Putin Reportedly Claims the Dissolution of the Soviet Union May Have Been Illegal

    This may not end well.

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    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
    1. Re:Reassembling the Soviet Union by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As one of the great monsters of history, rehabilitating Stalin is an important bit of symbolism and tone. If Austria and Germany were to one day declare that they were reuniting in an act of self-determination by the German people, and then started making public pronouncements about the many great achievements of Der Führer, wouldn't that be cause for concern? Stalin killed far more than Der Führer.

      Putin’s long game? Meet the Eurasian Union

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      much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
    2. Re:Reassembling the Soviet Union by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know what you understand under socialist and dictatorship, but these 2 terms are mutually exclusive. USSR was fascist.

      USSR was a secular theocracy. It treated Marxism - or "Dialectic Materialism" - as revealed truth, and as theocrats usually do, made more shit up as it went along. If and when reality disagreed with revelation, it got ignored or violently suppressed. And it never really changed: people got tired and disappointed with their prophet, just like they'd gotten tired and disappointed with the Czar earlier, and abandoned him. But the spirit of autocracy - the myth of divine leader - lived on, thus Putin is now enthroned as the new Czar, just like Stalin before him. Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss.

      And no, USSR was not fascist. Fascism and Stalinism are both manifestations of something far older and nastier, a sickness that to some extent pervades all human societies. All who try to build a utopia reach the point where it seems the goal is just within range if they only sacrifice a few people to reach it. If they don't, the paradise remains flawed, and if they do, it turns into a nightmare - just like Soviet Union and various fascist regimes did.

      Of course, the US also did exactly that to win the Cold War, and it seems the bill is now coming due. Time will tell how far the "land of the free" will fall before what it's unleashed is done with it.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

    3. Re:Reassembling the Soviet Union by Xest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Naturally I don't ask them to give up their culture. But I don't want them to force it on unwilling people on territory of Ukraine. This is absolutely inadmissible. "

      Yet you want to force it onto them and when you do it it's not inadmissible? You don't see the hypocrisy in that?

      "This is the reason Crimea rebelled."

      Accept it didn't. In polling in February before this all happened only 41% of Crimeans wanted to join Russia. What's going on in Crimea isn't rebellion, it's Russian occupation - it's forced annexation of Crimea against the will of the people there - you know, that thing that on one hand you're saying is inadmissible, and on the other you're arguing for?

      "If Ukrainian state respected Russian people as much Russian Federation respects its own people of different nationalities"

      Yeah because it's so nice being Jewish in Russia and suffering attacks from Neo Nazis? It's so nice being Chechnyan in Russia and getting bombed to fuck? Outside of nationalities it's so nice being gay in Russia and being legislated against and beaten to death with the blessing of the state? It's so nice having differing political views than Putin and being beaten, jailed, or killed?

      The only thing Russians look after in Russia are straight white Russians who conform to the will of Putin. Anything else and you're fucked.

    4. Re:Reassembling the Soviet Union by Xest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No side wants to be part of the Russian block, that's a key myth that Putin is desperately trying to peddle:

      http://www.cityam.com/blog/139...

      The whole reason Putin has troops locking down Crimea and spreading propaganda left and right is precisely because he knows he could not win the referendum there legitimately. It's a sham, a stitch up, theft of Ukranian territory against the genuine will of the people. Even with a majority of 58% of ethnic Russian origin in Crimea most of those ethnic Russians still identify their nationality as Ukrainian, even though their ethnicity is Russian.

      There is no division in the Ukraine, separatists across the whole nations are an absolute minority. It's no different to Scotland and the UK in this respect - the fact that 90% of the population there are Scottish doesn't mean 90% are in favour of independence, on the contrary, polling consistently puts only about 30% in favour of independence.

  2. Go find another thread to whine in by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There a topic that isn't about America? Well can't have that! Spin it to be about America! Redirect all topics to be on America, particularly whining about America!

    Seriously, this American-centric bitching is really annoying. People need to knock it off. This is about Russia. That things are happening in America doesn't mean things aren't happening elsewhere. It also doesn't mean those things aren't of interest to the wider world. What is happening in Russia right now is of quite a bit of interest not just to Russians, but to Ukrainians, and to the whole of Europe. Also some people from the US might like to know too because hey, it is nice to be informed about the wider world.

    So quit. Quit trying to make every thread about the US. There are lots and lots of those on Slashdot. When something comes up on a foreign country, let it be on that topic. The topic at hand is Russian media/internet censorship not NSA spying. That one is a little further down the front page.

    1. Re:Go find another thread to whine in by Dave+Emami · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There a topic that isn't about America? Well can't have that! Spin it to be about America! Redirect all topics to be on America, particularly whining about America!

      What's ironic is that the folks who tend to do this, are just as likely to sneer that Americans don't care about anything happening outside the US.

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      "The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
  3. Hopefully Russians don't give up their freedoms by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Rules against criticizing the government makes a political campaign all but impossible for anyone but the incumbent. In other words, they are now a dictatorship. Hopefully the Russian people won't give up their freedoms so easily, and push back.

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    1. Re:Hopefully Russians don't give up their freedoms by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, it's nice to hope, but Putin's rating is at its highest in the last 3 years, somewhat about 71%. There is no realistic hope for any "push back" anytime soon. Its not like some crazy dictator and small group of his henchmen took over the country - no, its like the majority of population is winding up some sort of mass psychosis. Which is a much more terrifying thought, really.

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      Absence of proof != proof of absence.
    2. Re:Hopefully Russians don't give up their freedoms by Xest · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Normally I like to not try and blame the people for the actions of their leadership, but frankly I've lost all faith in the ability for the majority of the Russian populace to engage in any kind of rational thinking at this point. They are part the problem.

      A couple of years back they were out in protest against Putin rigging the vote to put himself back in power and I thought hey, finally, the Russian people are taking responsibility for their state, and trying to deal with their dictator.

      Now two years on, an Olympic games, a bit of propaganda, creating a hate target in homosexuals to blame societies ills on (just as Hitler did with the Jews etc.), an attempted annexation of Crimea, and the resurrection of Stalin as a popular deity and suddenly Putin has 70% approval ratings again.

      So whilst there are clearly a good number of Russians that still want him out, at this point they're a minority by quite a stretch. It really is the Russian people that are the problem - you might as well just alias the nation as Dumbfuckland now, because it really is a nation mostly full of dumb fucks given the approval they're now giving Putin based on his fascist, dictatorial policies. I thought it was bad enough that my nation, the UK is full of people so easily swayed by populism, bigotry, and general ignorance peddled by the media, but the idiocy of many of my countrymen appears to pale compared to those in Russia. At least whilst our population recently argued against striking Syria by a decent margin. In contrast, the Russians positively support annexing the whole of the Ukraine, not just Crimea with about 59% support on latest polls.

      I wouldn't put your faith in the Russian people, they mostly seem to be an extremely fickle, easily swayed bunch and Putin controls the media, so swaying them his way appears trivial.

  4. Re:Until the NSA stops spying on America... by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are other stories about the NSA and related matters on the page now, and over the last several days. I find it odd that you apparently didn't post in them. You kind of went off topic there.

    Or just trying to deflect the heat off Russia? You even got there with a first post.

    Is the rule we can't discuss anything other than the NSA? Are you felling personally oppressed?

    Other parts of the world have problems besides the US. They can be discussed too. It isn't a "hollow" problem.
     

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  5. Re:Until the NSA stops spying on America... by Dave+Emami · · Score: 4, Informative

    Until we stop living in a mass surviellence state, this all rings hollow.

    The US (and the West in general) differs from Russia not in our inclination towards surveillance -- pretty much all governments do that -- but in the fact that it's controversial here.

    You do know that it's possible to criticize bad things done by the US government, and criticize bad things done by other governments, right? Because your statement seems to indicate that you're unaware of this option.

    Unlike Russia, we don't need to ban critics. We can just stalk and harrass them, until then ruin their lifes.

    Tell that to Alexander Litvinenko, Viktor Yuschenko, Anna Politkovskaya, Yuri Shchekochikhin, Yuri Shchekochikhin, and many others.

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    "The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
  6. Re:Until the NSA stops spying on America... by Xest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh don't be so stupid. I'm no fan of the NSA's surveillance either but pretending that has any bearing this is complete nonsense.

    About the only connection is that Putin's Russia is a warning about how bad it can get, so yes the NSA and CIA need to be reigned in somewhat, but the US isn't exactly as bad as Russia where the KGB, sorry, "FSB" as they prefer to be called nowadays, have their man in charge and basically run the entire show. At least there's still some semblance of separation between US intelligence agencies, the courts and the people who run the country still. In Russia it's all one big completely KGB orchestrated machine. The very fact the CIA had to try and meddle with the senate in itself shows they don't have that level of control over them yet, in Putin's Russia they'd have just had Feinstein and co. arrested on some trumped up charges and that would be the end of it.

    So yes, whilst the US has lost it's right to preach on some issues (i.e. bitching at China for hacking) this is at least one area where it's hardly reached Putin-esque levels of dictatorship.

    Stalking and being harassed even if that were happening on a widespread scale to all critics (it's not, people are still free to criticise - that's what you're doing for fucks sake and I doubt anyone is stalking or harassing you) is even then still a far cry from being beaten senseless and chucked in jail, or just outright assassinated with a bullet to the head by an assailant that never gets found (because they don't want to find him).

  7. Re:Hypocrisy is always on topic by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But the level to which Russian society is controlled by the government has always been markedly higher than the level to which the US society is controlled by the goverment. What about restricted cities, internal passports, vastly greater lack of freedom of speech and expression etc.? Even though I'm always ready to call on Americans for being absurd, I'm also perfectly willing to admit that the civic situation in the US, while not perfect, is somewhere in the 90th percentile, as far as the world's nations are concerned. You simply can't say the same thing about Russia. You never could.

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