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ZunZuneo: USAID Funded 'Cuban Twitter' To Undermine Communist Regime

barlevg (2111272) writes "In a country where the government severely limits access to the world wide web, ZunZeneo, an anonymous SMS-based social network, drew more than 40,000 Cuban users at its peak, the Associated Press reports. On it, people shared news and opinions about music and culture. But what none of its subscribers knew was that the project was secretly funded by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), though a series of shell corporations and foreign bank accounts, and that its stated goal was 'renegotiate the balance of power between the state and society' in the Communist stronghold, hopefully leading to a 'Cuban Spring.'"

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  1. Oh goodness me, non-military means! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How terrible the US government is, using the concepts of a free exchange of ideas to overthrow another regime!

    Well, ok, to be fair in the US, most of those free ideas are scams, but it's still slightly better than bombs and poisoned cigars.

    1. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How terrible the US government is, using the concepts of a free exchange of ideas to overthrow another regime!

      I'm sure the Occupy movement would call them out on this hypocrisy.

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    2. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by MrNaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They hate us for our freedom. Underhanded manipulation of their local political system for our own agenda has nothing to do with it.

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    3. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How terrible the US government is, using the concepts of a free exchange of ideas to overthrow another regime!

      I'm sure the Occupy movement would call them out on this hypocrisy.

      Why? Occupy got it's message out.

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    4. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With FBI and NSA keeping tabs on them under the pretext of "domestic terrorism"?

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    5. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, I guess on the morality scale, this is an improvement over open assassination attempts and blowing up airliners to discourage tourism. I guess that's "moral progress" by slimy U.S. standards.

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    6. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not CIA? That's what I expected.

      Ha, who do you think USAID is a front for?

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    7. Re:Oh goodness me, non-military means! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Freedom to subvert using tax monies gained with no regulatory oversight within a foreign policy framework dictated by corporate interests?

      Sign me up!

  2. USAID by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    USAID is suppose to be an aide organization. The moment they have to start laundering money they have gone off the reservation and entered CIA territory.

    There is a place for clandestine operation to work against regimes we don't like, that is why we have a foreign intelligence agency, CIA. Our government is completely out of control and way to large this is just more proof!

    Not only that it completely undermines the mission of USAID to have it associated with these type of shenanigans; its supposed to be about soft power, its supposed to be about building trust. Here we have one more department with in the government demonstrating laws don't matter, not ours and certainly not any other sovereigns. Shameful...

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    1. Re:USAID by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      Is the same thing here on Brazil. USAID here helps every one who wants to overthrow any government that does not comply doggedly what the U.S. told to do.

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    2. Re:USAID by mean+pun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is the same thing here on Brazil. USAID here helps every one who wants to overthrow any government that does not comply doggedly what the U.S. told to do.

      As an American, I can assure you that simply do not understand what you are talking about. While I have no idea whether any US agency cares any about government change in Brazil, I can tell you that Lula was no problem at all. The man was rational and competent and if he and the US had different ideas from time to time, at least there was some logic to what he was doing. Dilma Rousseff is a completely different story. Early on she came on with the same anti-US ranting and ravings that are quite popular in South America these days. Geez, I don't think I've ever seen anything more embarrassing from a national leader than her photo with Fidel where she looked like an aging rock groupie wanting to suck him off at the first chance she got.

      Oh dear, oh dear. Yes, I have to agree here; that is horrible. Terrible. Possibly even Terrorism. Ranting and raving against the US! Having her photo taken with Fidel!! Because no US politician would ever rant or rave against neighbouring counties. Or have their photo taken with dubious world leaders.

      If the US is trying to support opposition to her presidency, well, that is a fight that she started.

      Certainly. If a politician says some mean things about the US, that TOTALLY justifies US meddling in that politician's country. There is lots of jurisprudence here, because it is exactly the time-honoured schoolyard argument that teachers like so much: "But teach, THEY started it!". (And in the same time-honoured schoolyard tradition, the original offence is of course microscopic compared to the retaliation.)

  3. USA's attention to Cuba seems silly by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's funny how butthurt they are about Cuba and how much effort they put into overthrowing Castro. It's like they don't have any bigger problems.

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    1. Re:USA's attention to Cuba seems silly by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Batista was a U.S. puppet, and his cronies (who are now a significant voting block in FL) lost a lot of money and power when Castro came in. They want it back, and they want it back BAD. The U.S. will murder, commit terrorism, or do anything else to accomplish this goal.

      The most shameful incident (IMHO) came in 1976, when a CIA agent blew up a civilian Cuban airliner, killing 78 innocent people. And said CIA agent is still living free (and protected) in the U.S. to this day. The U.S., my country, openly committing terrorism for petty economic ends. Fucking pathetic.

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    2. Re:USA's attention to Cuba seems silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow. It's almost like the U.S. took over Cuba and squashed their fledgling independence movement, before setting up the mafia to run the island as a resort for well connected businessmen and politicians from the States, then upon the instigation of a successful revolution tried for decades to overthrow Cuba's government via economic sanctions, assassination, and terrorism, or something.

  4. Re:I hope this is BS by gmack · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you've ever met anyone from Cuba they will tell you that the outside world is nothing like what they are told on the news. How is that not propaganda?

  5. Re:USAID is not a NGO by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Informative

    it seems to say that the USAID helped set up social networks in Cuba that weren't controlled by the government. That sounds like a good thing to me. I'm puzzled why any /. readers would object to this.

    Because the goal isn't to set up social networks, it's to start a violent coup and ultimately reinstall a U.S. puppet government in Cuba. These social networks are just a means to a slimy end.

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  6. Re:I hope this is BS by gmack · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not American, and as someone who knows a few Cubans, I can tell you most of the country isn't like the tourist zones.

  7. Re:I hope this is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can confirm as a Canadian. I have travelled there, and there are two distinct countries in Cuba.

    One that tourists are allowed to see (which extends off of places like Veradero to cover good portions of Havana and anywhere which tourists travel for experiences like river excursions and the like)
    The other one contains the people of Cuba who have zero contact with foreigners, and zero access to US currency which drives the black market down there.

    Neither of them is really adequately portrayed in North American media because neither of them serve to advance the narrative that the media is content with pushing. Either "Castro is evil, his people need us to give them freedom" or "These people live idylic, peacefull lives, free from the trappings of Western modern society, and they are happy with their lot in life".

    The reality is far more nuanced that either of those sound bites.