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Ubuntu Linux 14.04 LTS Trusty Tahr Released
An anonymous reader writes with this announcement: "Ubuntu Linux version 14.04 LTS (code named "Trusty Tahr") has been released and available for download. This updated version includes the Linux kernel v3.13.0-24.46, Python 3.4, Xen 4.4, Libreoffice 4.2.3, MySQL 5.6/MariaDB 5.5, Apache 2.4, PHP 5.5, improvements to AppArmor allow more fine-grained control over application, and more. The latest release of Ubuntu Server is heavily focused on supporting cloud and scale-out computing platforms such as OpenStack, Docker, and more. As part of the wider Ubuntu 14.04 release efforts the Ubuntu Touch team is proud to make the latest and greatest touch experience available to our enthusiast users and developers. You can install Ubuntu on Nexus 4 Phone (mako), Nexus 7 (2013) Tablet (flo), and Nexus 10 Tablet (manta) by following these instructions. On a hardware front, ARM multiplatform support has been added, enabling you to build a single ARM kernel image that can boot across multiple hardware platforms. Additionally, the ARM64 and Power architectures are now fully supported. See detailed release notes for more information. A quick upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu is possible over the network."
I think you mean Crusty Cunt, which was Ubuntu's seminal release.
Until all the apps are full screen only with no way to leave unless I get thrown back into a cell phone I wont be switching. I hope the apps only have 3 or 4 functions that are all hidden by default.
That would be sooo cool. I am sure if I go to a starbucks with such a gui I can get so many chicks owwing and ahhing and using my hip touch screen. Sharkwire looks so cute ... giggles.
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I heard most Linux distros have spyware embedded in them. The only way to get rid of it is to compile from source, which most people don't know how / aren't willing to do. This is one of the main reasons I stick with Windows.
Did the person you heard that from also tell you that vacinations cause autism? Or that JFK was assasinated by Bigfoot (as part of the global lizard-people/Illuminati coalition)?
Also, why would you think Windows *doesn't* have Microsoft spyware installed?
given Shuttleworth's complete and utter contempt for the open source community.
Where are you getting that from? Shuttleworth has done nothing but help the open source community in every way imaginable.
Seminal release? I just hope it wasn't premature on their part, that would be a dishonorable discharge.
This would be the Amazon search lens, which was enabled by default. When you used the Search functionality in Unity desktop, it would search both local files/content and Amazon's catalog of products online.
Not exactly spyware per se, but certainly irritating - especially if you're concerned about your privacy. I don't expect the search function on my local Linux computer to run off and search Amazon for interesting products...
and no, it hasn't been disabled by default. You can turn it off via the Settings panel though.
Shuttleworth's complete and utter contempt for the open source community.
I'll concede that some initial releases were done way before they were polished, but half the griping isn't even about flawed features.
In light of some of the changes that have caused some huge controversies (having the window buttons on the right vs left is straight out of Gulliver's), maybe you mean "ignoring the very vocal minority who reject innovation, either from a need to feel elite or fear of change".
It does not suck that bad anymore. For anyone still having a grudge against Unity, I recommend trying it again at this point.
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I don't know but it is very convenient when searching for information about the product. If it was called "Wooden Doors" you would have a lot of irrelevant search results. All results for a search for "Quantal Quetzal" will however be very relevant.
I can change the network configs with out rebooting??? Where did you get that from? (I can change ip address, dns settings, default gateway, etc no reboot needed. /etc/network/interfaces)
Mint listens to their constintuents, and builds their distro around their concerns. Ubuntu does whatever the heck they want and says "take it or leave it".
See Mint's choice of MATE (Gnome2) or Gnome3 vs. Ubuntu's "We're making this new Unity thing that no one wants and we'll force it on our users before its ready".
I've been using it since the beta & it runs very well. Netflix & Steam install very quick & easy & run well.
This is my longest experience with Unity & I've found it's not too bad, either. Experience with OSX helps get used to the non-menu way of selecting a program but in use it's really like a menu, anyway. (click the Ubuntu logo thingy [or super-a] -> apps -> internet -> firefox) And at least when you bring up the program selection it doesn't cover the entire desktop.
I also like that they are trying to conserve vertical space by putting the launcher on the left edge instead of the bottom and eliminating the menu bar on windows. Moving the menus sounded odd 'till I learn why and , again, experience with Macs helps get used to it.
But Unity is slow compared to other desktops, and very difficult to customize.
I may still go back to XFCE just to get the 'right-click on the desktop for a menu' back. (or I could just install Windowmaker... hmmm)
But overall Ubuntu 14.04 has been very stable & runs quite nicely.
I guess this is what I get for browsing at -1... While I do agree with you on your point about rebooting to apply networking config (I'm assuming it's a true statement) I think if that's the best argument you can come up with for why Ubuntu/Shuttleworth suck you are pretty far off-base with your evaluation. I like it because it gives me access to a linux server environment that is literally child's play to install, and it gives the non-techy person a decent alternative to Windows. It is the first distro that I have seen that you don't need a deep understanding of a computer to install it. (My 12 year old was able to install it by himself) Considering where the Linux world was 10 years ago, I'd say that's a pretty damn good contribution to the open source community. Are there better distros out there? Yeah, there probably are. Has one company done as much as Canonical to push Linux to the masses? Probably not.
Ubuntu *did* (past tense) an amazing amount for the community, and for a long time Ubutunu was justifiably the dominant distribution because they gave people what they wanted (as you more or less said, it was the first distro that was super user-friendly). I do give them props for that.
Then it all went to Shuttleworth's head, and he started thinking he could dictate to the Linux world what we would all use. That's when many Linux users started abandoning Shutttleworth/Canonincal and going to distributions that actually cared: there's a reason why (on many distribution watchlists at least) Mint has surpassed Ubuntu.
The only reason I care about Ubuntu updates is that they are followed by Mint updates. I really don't see why anyone would still want to use Ubuntu when there is an equally good (if not better) Debian/Ubuntu-based distro, especially given Shuttleworth's complete and utter contempt for the open source community.
Probably because ideology isn't really important to most people, who just want stuff that works. They don't care if they're running X or Wayland/Weston or Mir. And Shuttleworth definitely does not have contempt for the open source community in general...just the developers who don't follow his lead. Which definitely isn't cool, of course, but those developers don't represent everybody.
After my old laptop with a highly-customized Arch Linux setup died, I went back to Ubuntu (which I've used since Warty Warthog!) because I didn't feel like spending the time to mess with stuff anymore. My personal laptop is currently sitting on 12.04 LTS. I might upgrade once 14.04.1 is released in August, depending on how reviews are. It looks like they didn't choose as many cutting-edge packages, so it may not be as big of a problem as the first releases of previous LTS editions were (remember the time they shipped an LTS release with a beta version of Firefox?).
I'm using Mint 16 Cinnamon at work, so I could be convinced to switch, but my wife and kids are used to Unity by now. I have a terminal shortcut pinned near the top of the sidebar, so I get around easily enough.
I'll be upgrading all of our Ubuntu 12.04 machines (and many 10.04 servers) over the coming months, and I'm looking forward to the changes.
Canonical and Ubuntu have done more for desktop Linux than any other company I can think of. I look forward to their regular releases, strong committment to patches, and easy, reliable upgrades. As a sysadmin, they've made my life much easier on both server and desktop. Predictable releases and solid relationships with Dell, IBM, and HP mean that I can buy almost server or laptop and know that it will "just work."
Thank you to the developers, backers, hackers, and community.
Mint listens to their constintuents, and builds their distro around their concerns. Ubuntu does whatever the heck they want and says "take it or leave it".
See Mint's choice of MATE (Gnome2) or Gnome3 vs. Ubuntu's "We're making this new Unity thing that no one wants and we'll force it on our users before its ready".
Which is why some of us (perhaps a good number) moved to Xubuntu.
It's fortunate that Ubuntu has XFCE, LXDE, KDE, Gnome, Unity and might get a MATE version as well.
As of writing, the "release notes" link in the summary points to the upgrade instructions on nixCraft, whereas it presumably should have pointed to this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Trusty...
Please fix!
So, was the summary supposed to look like it was written by a retarded person
Clearly looks like it was written by a salesman.
What happened to Ubuntu was they decided to "differentiate" themselves more, dreaming of monetization and profits. I'm not sure it is working out the way they thought it would.
I like Mint - the version that tracks debian (Linux Mint Debian edition). They do a ~3 month rolling upgrade from debian testing. So I get something a little more current than debian stable on Mint's nice Cinnamon UI. It's ideal except for one little thing - no LVM install by default. For that you need to jump through some hoops but it can be done. Well maybe I'll grab the latest and see if that separation has gone away.
Does Mint now follow Ubuntu releases at all? Or just stick to Debian? B'cos under the hood, it's Debian...
Bad info is bad.
Mint has two editions. The normal release is based on Ubuntu, but there is a second more rolling-release edition based on Debian Unstable called LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition). It is available in both Mate and Cinnamon interfaces.
The Dishonerable Discharge release is scheduled for 2016.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
You forgot:
e) how Mir / Wayland are totally and completely useless because they're not natively network transparent;
f) how Mark Shuttleworth is the fucking anti-christ
I'm not a fan of Mir, nor a big fan of Unity, but I've been around long enough to see those sort of changes happen in every distro.
My personal favorite window manger was sawmill/sawfish, which was the default with gnome at one point in time. When it was replaced, the replacement didn't do half of the features I regularly used, so I kept using it. Then it became much more difficult to get working, so I dropped gnome and used some dumb little apps to get a desktop switcher and clock and such, and went pretty bare-bones. Then compiz got pretty stable, so I gave up and used that. wash/rinse/repeat for a ton of other things in life.
People turned against KDE for a long while too due to licensing issues. AFAICT, that has continued to hurt their image, even though all those issues have been resolved. IMO, that did push KDE/QT to change, and also pushed gnome to improve. Someone has to push the ball forward. Mir may never actually take off. If Wayland gets there first (and yes, there still is plenty to be done), Ubuntu could easily swap it into place. Similar with Unity... it does do a better job with touch than many of the other options. It, like almost everything else there is, won't last forever. It's not hurting things as long as there are other options (you can even just grab a xubuntu or kubuntu spin if you want).
Yes, how dare an open source project dream of one day not being a black hole money pit.
It's true. I hated Unity with a fiery passion around 12.04. I still dislike it (largely because of poor discoverability), but it's a great deal more bearable now.
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c) how much you hate spyware and Amazon even tho it's opt-in;
If it's enabled by default and I have to turn it off, that's opt-out, not opt-in.
I actually was in the same boat as you. I wasn't a fan early on, but now I actually like it. I mainly use Eclipse or the terminal, so the UI is not super important as long as it does not eat resources. 14.04 seems to be better in this realm. It seems resource use has been getting better. In regards to the interface, I just setup my preschooler with an account on my Ubuntu laptop and Unity was easy enough for her (obviously I did some setup ahead of time). They have really started making the interface intuitive and I give them some serious credit for that.
Or, we could choose Xubuntu (XFCE), Lubuntu (LXDE), Kubuntu (KDE), or even just install barebones and roll your own. I fail to see how Ubuntu is shoving a window manager or desktop environment down your throat.
Wow. Get over yourself, dude.
I appear to be lacking in my knowledge of large Asian ungulates. Apologies to your mother.
The flip side of that is that Canonical has been pretty clear that they're not building this for their existing users but rather to get new users on phones, tablets, phablets, convertibles, touchscreen laptops, TVs and whatnot other household devices. To trot out the old Henry Ford quote, if I asked my users what they'd wanted they'd say a faster horse. Well that's you, you want a better "classic" desktop the way it's been for the last 20 years or so but the users they have is 1% of a declining PC market that's being swarmed by other non-PC devices. That's why they won't listen when you complain that they're trying to put a steering wheel and pedals on your horse cart, they're trying to build a car and going back on that is clearly a step backwards compared to their goals.
Yes, he's trying to be Steve Jobs just like Google is, just like Microsoft is and when giants like that throw their weight around it's easy to get flung into irrelevance which is why the new business isn't exactly rolling in and the old business is cranky. Particularly now when Android has rolled in almost everywhere he wanted Ubuntu to be. He could just tuck his tail between his legs, admit defeat and say we'll be building a desktop of the geeks, by the geeks, for the geeks and that's that. Or at least aim the sights back to Microsoft, the old archenemy even though Ubuntu never managed to get very far there. But my impression is that he's too ambitious and stubborn to do that, besides "We're making this new Unity thing that no one wants and we'll force it on our users before its ready" sounds like GNOME 3, KDE 4 and a bunch of other projects so he fits right in.
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Surely Transgender Tortoisekin would be more apt in this day and age of Social Justice.
It really does make sense to have a single ARM kernel source with a device tree. This is not a single binary for all, but a single source tree. When you compile, it is not like you are getting all the bloat of a hundred different board packages. You use a different make script that pulls in the appropriate files. What it does give us is great templates to use when porting to similar sources.
If you ever take a look at board manufacturers' kernel source, each distribution is often very different from another. It takes a while to reconcile it with mainline kernel source. And it is even more of a pain to upgrade to a new kernel when a board maker had some whacky code placed in there. By at least placing it in the device tree, it gives them the incentive to use a template of code that already exists. Then hopefully some of us have an easier time porting when we want to upgrade Kernels and such.
I know it does not seem like it makes a lot of sense to some, but there really are good reasons for the change.
P.S. The unified Kernel is a Linux issue as a whole, not just an Ubuntu thing.
I think the point is neither of these are attacks on the open source community. They're arguably attacks - albeit mere criticisms of - on "GNOME/Linux", but that's not the same thing.
A company contributing bodies and work to a community is helping it, not harming it. It's up to us to decide if we want Mir and Unity. We're not harmed by their existence. And FWIW, anyone arguing that Mir is terrible because it undermines Wayland isn't thinking this through, both because there's a much greater case for saying Wayland is damaging to the future of GNU/Linux, and because Mir has changed the politics whereby Wayland was once an obscure thing nobody was taking any notice of, but Mir basically turned the entire argument from "Should we replace X11 with Wayland?" (Hell no) to "OK, should we use Mir or Wayland [abandonment of X11 is implied to be a settled issue.]"
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
Further info : Mint 17, 18, 19, 20 (assuming they keep a 6-month release rate) will be based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, the changes supposedly will be linux and Xorg updates for compatibility/performance of newer hardware, and newer versions of Mate and Cinnamon.
This is the dumbest post I've seen.
Slashdot allows users to post, which requires a keyboard. Does that make Slashdot a keylogger/trojan?
That is apparantly because most people would simply call them "goats".
This new release is timely. I assume that those interested in increasing the user base of ubuntu did not miss the significance of this news about XP. The number I've heard tossed around is 30% of existing PC's run XP and it is now being recommended that they stop using it. I was disturbed to hear a major network news channel recommend that XP users either buy win8 or buy a new computer. Anyone interested in promoting linux distros should not pass up this opportunity.
I'm currently with Linux Mint Debian Edition on my desktop (I migrated from Ubuntu as Unity and Gnome 3 were somewhat new at the time!). If only rolling upgrades were approximately every three months, I'd be happier. Unfortunately, they're not. (UP4 was on 2012.04.05, UP5 was on 2012.09.17, UP6 was on 2012.12.19, UP7 was on 2013.09.23, and UP8 was on 2014.02.04. Only one of these was a three-monther). When I installed LMDE it was a "rolling" release. Now it's described as "semi-rolling".
To be honest, I think the issue is lack of resources within Mint. When I installed LMDE, there was an XFCE edition (which I installed). This has been dropped. Fair enough, if the 'market wasn't there, no point in using resources unnecessarily.
Which leads us back to Ubuntu. This has been successful because Mark Shuttleworth has been using his personal fortune to keep things going. I sense a need for Canonical to get (at least) to a break-even point so it can continue even after Shuttleworth's fortune is no longer available (I doubt his pocket is bottomless!).
That either means relying on donations (like Mint) or getting some commercial success. Canonical have decided on the latter, and are have adopted their behaviour accordingly. I do not begrudge them this, and wish them well.
I will try the Unity (and Gnome) editions in VirtualBox (XFCE 12.04 LTE is on the laptop). I will then make an independent judgement as to what I think of them. For my next desktop build, I might revert to one of the Ubuntus (or if I'm feeling masochistic, I might even try Arch!)
And to compare - I recently bought a retail version of Windows 8.1 and installed it in VirtualBox. To be honest I don't think it's as bad an Operating System as has been made out - but the privacy issues are horrendous (I paraphrase, but one default install option seems to be to "send all browsing history to Microsoft to help Microsoft 'improve' the user experience etc."), and the default location for documents is Sky Drive. Microsoft also dream of "monetization and profits"! Now Ubuntu might be as bad (although I doubt it), but at least I don't have to pay to install it!
Canonical is an Organisation. It needs to keep going and thrive, and I (for one) hope they do. There is worse out there!
You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough. - Blake
You know, it occurs to me that if Mark Shuttleworth hadn't been "too ambitious and stubborn", he wouldn't have acquired his fortune in the first place - a fortune that he's subsequently used to bankroll Ubuntu and Canonical, and generally drive the Gnu/Linux ecosystem forwards.
Now he might fail (as you state, he is up against Apple, Microsoft and Google), but I think it is very good that someone is making the attempt - even if this does occasionally annoy his existing user base. For those there is always Xubuntu!
You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough. - Blake
... especially given Shuttleworth's complete and utter contempt for the open source community.
He's giving it away for free. You don't have to use it.
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So is there any way to cache Ubuntu upgrades, which would let my large collection of virtual and physical lab machines all fetch them from the LAN instead of the each one having to drag them across its WAN? Might as well fetch the official copy just once, and have everything else update at gigabit speeds.
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