Slashdot Mirror
Ubuntu Linux 14.04 LTS Trusty Tahr Released
An anonymous reader writes with this announcement: "Ubuntu Linux version 14.04 LTS (code named "Trusty Tahr") has been released and available for download. This updated version includes the Linux kernel v3.13.0-24.46, Python 3.4, Xen 4.4, Libreoffice 4.2.3, MySQL 5.6/MariaDB 5.5, Apache 2.4, PHP 5.5, improvements to AppArmor allow more fine-grained control over application, and more. The latest release of Ubuntu Server is heavily focused on supporting cloud and scale-out computing platforms such as OpenStack, Docker, and more. As part of the wider Ubuntu 14.04 release efforts the Ubuntu Touch team is proud to make the latest and greatest touch experience available to our enthusiast users and developers. You can install Ubuntu on Nexus 4 Phone (mako), Nexus 7 (2013) Tablet (flo), and Nexus 10 Tablet (manta) by following these instructions. On a hardware front, ARM multiplatform support has been added, enabling you to build a single ARM kernel image that can boot across multiple hardware platforms. Additionally, the ARM64 and Power architectures are now fully supported. See detailed release notes for more information. A quick upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu is possible over the network."
Code named "Trusty Tahr".
Why do open-source projects always have such stupid, ugly-sounding names that probably refers to totally obscure subjects?
Shit's real tits
It used to be that the default installation contained a program was running by default, which had a good purpose but also sent everything that the user typed into it to Canonical and indirectly to Amazon. This is by all definitions spyware. I don't know if this is still included in Ubuntu, maybe someone else knows?
Until all the apps are full screen only with no way to leave unless I get thrown back into a cell phone I wont be switching. I hope the apps only have 3 or 4 functions that are all hidden by default.
That would be sooo cool. I am sure if I go to a starbucks with such a gui I can get so many chicks owwing and ahhing and using my hip touch screen. Sharkwire looks so cute ... giggles.
http://saveie6.com/
It's just Ubuntu with another stupid release name....
The only reason I care about Ubuntu updates is that they are followed by Mint updates. I really don't see why anyone would still want to use Ubuntu when there is an equally good (if not better) Debian/Ubuntu-based distro, especially given Shuttleworth's complete and utter contempt for the open source community.
I think AC was kidding, friend; making the exact point you are.
Does Unity still suck?
So, was the summary supposed to look like it was written by a retarded person or am I missing some kind of obscure joke? Grade-school kids can write a more coherent paragraph.
Not nearly as much as it did when it first came out THREE YEARS AGO.
Please update your griping points - they're outdated even by /. standards.
Will the stoooopid people quit working on this. It's a dumb idea.
Now instead of board-specific files and SoC-specific (CPU-specific) files, we have a multitude of device-tree files. The whole idea of single binary kernel for ARM is as absurd as having a single binary kernel for x86 and x86-64. Why would anybody want to be saddled with the chore of parsing device-tree info in the kernel on systems which are, arguably, mostly embedded systems where the hardware for a board is very well defined and add-on hardware is rare.
There is a cost associated with having a single uber-kernel that can dynamically configure itself and load modules, etc. Save that cost for larger, desktop-like systems that require it. Leave us embedded folks out of your crazy schemes.
PS. I know Linus screamed and sweared at the prolification of ARM board-specific files. Politics makes poor tech choices and now we have a prolification of device-tree files. Linus, you dumb f*ck, you didn't gain anything for anybody, you just pushed the problem away from yourself.
FREEBSD cCONTINUES
As opposed to Longhorn, Vista, Mavericks, Leopard, etc..? It's just a naming convention. It's an animal and a descriptive word. Trusty is a common word and a Tahr isn't exactly an uncommon animal. Nothing to do with open source, it's coding in general.
I've been using it since the beta & it runs very well. Netflix & Steam install very quick & easy & run well.
This is my longest experience with Unity & I've found it's not too bad, either. Experience with OSX helps get used to the non-menu way of selecting a program but in use it's really like a menu, anyway. (click the Ubuntu logo thingy [or super-a] -> apps -> internet -> firefox) And at least when you bring up the program selection it doesn't cover the entire desktop.
I also like that they are trying to conserve vertical space by putting the launcher on the left edge instead of the bottom and eliminating the menu bar on windows. Moving the menus sounded odd 'till I learn why and , again, experience with Macs helps get used to it.
But Unity is slow compared to other desktops, and very difficult to customize.
I may still go back to XFCE just to get the 'right-click on the desktop for a menu' back. (or I could just install Windowmaker... hmmm)
But overall Ubuntu 14.04 has been very stable & runs quite nicely.
I decided to upgrade awhile ago when the first beta came out, thinking that I could be helpful by submitting some bug reports. I've done this in the past and always had several crashes per day and filed plenty of bugs. This time I think I had two crashes total, while still in beta. It was almost disappointing in a way.
Here's the official Slashdot Beta Progress Report from a couple of days ago if you missed it.
The times I have used Linux I have made the choice to directly avoid Ubuntu at all costs. I used to think just the opposite before Unity interface and the fact Ubuntu has pretty much gone their own direction with open source. Which of course is fine, but it has not the path I chose.
When you start making changes to the OS to better mold with other platforms like mobile and tablets. You start to make compromises. The user starts to be a guinea pig. If you are just a PC user there are plenty of better desktop OS choices in Linux then Ubuntu.
I'll be upgrading all of our Ubuntu 12.04 machines (and many 10.04 servers) over the coming months, and I'm looking forward to the changes.
Canonical and Ubuntu have done more for desktop Linux than any other company I can think of. I look forward to their regular releases, strong committment to patches, and easy, reliable upgrades. As a sysadmin, they've made my life much easier on both server and desktop. Predictable releases and solid relationships with Dell, IBM, and HP mean that I can buy almost server or laptop and know that it will "just work."
Thank you to the developers, backers, hackers, and community.
The following comments will be related to at least one of these :
a) how Canonical "sucks";
b) how Mint/Debian/Windows is/are better than Ubuntu;
c) how much you hate spyware and Amazon even tho it's opt-in;
d) how much you hate Unity.
I used RedHat, SuSE, Debian, Ubuntu. Ubuntu was my desktop for a long time, but slowly Microsoft and Ubuntu working together changed that. First Microsoft got better, and it supports the latest hardware and - so I heard - power management is better, important for my new notebook. At the same time Ubuntu changed to desktop to something I have no love and no use for.
I did kernel hacking (network code - NAT and firewall, kernel 2.2), Linux was my main system since 1995, I worked for one of the major Linux companies (on two continents) and my server stuff still is solidly Linux. However, on the desktops Windows (7 and 8) has replaced it.
Reason: Good enough and hardware.
I have a new (Derll XPS 13) "ultrabook" with a touch screen (yes it's "shiny" and I hate that, but *I want touch*) and SSD drive. Contrary to what I feared when everyone complained about Windows 8 the only real difference I had even before the latest big patch was that "app" start screen. It was very easy to work on the desktop anyway (without installing anything), and all I added in addition to Chrome and Firefox was git (which includes a bash - hurra!!!) and a good console app (ConEmu). Look guys, I only installed a handful of key pieces of software and I can use my Windows 8 without getting used to any "Windows-isms" like Powershell (powerful it may be but I remain a Unix person). I feel ZERO pain using Windows 8 as my desktop, even though I use the console a lot and MongoDB and node.js and vi. The hardware requires that I run Windows 8 (don't tell me "but there's a driver for xyz", that may be but I don't want to beta-test software I rely on every day. I frankly don't care too much about the OS as long as stuff works the way I'm used to. bash, git, vi, a tiny virtual screen manager software for Windows - and I get perfect support for this up-to-date Ultrabook.
So Windows 8 is good enough for me to continue without changing my (Linux) habits, and it has the superior hardware support. Sorry, Ubuntu. Oh, and on the server I installed Debian, for commercial projects I take whatever they have decided on.
I have Ubuntu in a VMware VM on my desktop, but my Ultrabook with only 256GB SSD has no room for two OS installations, which is why I tried the above workarounds in the first place and I've been pleased far beyond my expectations after having read all those horror stories about Win 8. I find myself starting the Ubuntu VM less and less, since everything works so well.
Linux kernel v3.13.0-24.46
That's why I hate you. .9 release...
ok, you've chosen 3.13, it's ok. But you ship with a 3.13.0... -24.46? what the hell? the vanilla kernel is just at its
just...why... all this backporting, maintaining different releases... all this useless work...
As of writing, the "release notes" link in the summary points to the upgrade instructions on nixCraft, whereas it presumably should have pointed to this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Trusty...
Please fix!
I really don't see why anyone would still want to use Ubuntu when there is [Mint] an equally good (if not better) Debian/Ubuntu-based distro
I don't see why anyone would want to use a distro based on Ubuntu [which is based on Debian] where there are equally good or better distros based on Debian directly.
Shuttleworth has done nothing but help the open source community in every way imaginable.
You mean like commercialising his distro, splitting the community by taking his own direction away from Wayland, and ditto by taking his own direction with the GUI? Or did you intend irony?
...does it run Linux? Can you build a Beowulf cluster using this?
Yes of course it does.
The whole Linux/Windows divide reminds me of the Reformation, with the Protestant denominations in endless schism on the pretext of maintaining doctrinal purity.
Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
You forgot:
e) how Mir / Wayland are totally and completely useless because they're not natively network transparent;
f) how Mark Shuttleworth is the fucking anti-christ
And which idiot in the Apple marketing department came up with the name "Mavericks"? Wasn't Maverick Meerkat release four years ago?
"... trying to conserve vertical space by putting the launcher on the left edge instead of the bottom and eliminating the menu bar on windows ... "
Incorrect, eliminating the menu bar on windows and using a universal menu bar at the top of the screen does not conserve any space, and hasn't since the invention of overlapping windows. It does however increase the space both your vision and mouse must traverse to actually use the menu making it less efficient to operate.
After over three decades, we're still anticipating the release of Funky Gibbon.
C'mon everybody it's gibbon time!
Stick Men
I don't want to hit the main ubuntu server for updates. Maybe the push sync to the au server is broken. Hopefully somebody will look at it before tuesday.
http://michaelsmith.id.au
So Windows 8 is good enough for me to continue without changing my (Linux) habits, and it has the superior hardware support. Sorry, Ubuntu.
Whatever happened to open-source idealism?
It works well enough, but you just need to sign on the dots here for your soul....
Good for you that you're happy with your setup, but what does it have to do with a new ubuntu release?
I sometimes miss the early days (1994 for me) when *nothing* worked out of the box (try copying 41 floppies for a 'distribution' consisting of a literal dump of an ftp server's /pub/ dir and a slightly outdated readme. floppy 39 is bound to be bad, forcing you to cycle back to the university to re-download nr 39 on a fresh floppy).
and everybody whas so thrilled to have something without corporate strings attached.
Nowadays it's whinewhinewhine all day. Even though I also get tired of switching to a new windowmanager each 5 years and re-learning everything every 3 it's still awesome how far gnu/linux has come. And when I worry too much abount X vs mir vs wayland I think back to 1996, when the choice was fbdev vs X and everybody went for X but I liked fbdev soo much better... and then I stop worrying and just assume it'll work out somehow :-)
The following comments will be related to at least one of these :
Well, any reply to your comment should be related to your comment!
a) how Canonical "sucks";
How?
b) how Mint/Debian/Windows is/are better than Ubuntu;
In many ways!
c) how much you hate spyware and Amazon even tho it's opt-in;
I do hate spyware (and there is no "opt-in" spyware) VERY MUCH - so... what's with that "Amazon thing" (i still run 12.04) or any other spyware newer versions have as an "option"?
d) how much you hate Unity.
VERY MUCH - that's why i install Gnome-classic (or something like that - after couple of years i forgot what i have intalled!)
(where is the "quote" function? WHERE IS THE "FUCK BETA" TAG?)
Did I read that correctly?
I'm not a woolly mammoth, but the release name sounds really gooey, very easy for critics to pan the release in case something goes south: my Trusty Tar install got stuck at the boot logo.
mee to one yr ago
This new release is timely. I assume that those interested in increasing the user base of ubuntu did not miss the significance of this news about XP. The number I've heard tossed around is 30% of existing PC's run XP and it is now being recommended that they stop using it. I was disturbed to hear a major network news channel recommend that XP users either buy win8 or buy a new computer. Anyone interested in promoting linux distros should not pass up this opportunity.
JEOS (Just Enough Operating System) used to be a sub-version of Ubuntu, with a minimal server edition; anything else you wanted was an apt-get install away. But there hasn't been a real JEOS version since about 8.04 or so, and with virtual machines these days I have a need for a lot of small-disk-footprint VMs. Is there something that's relatively similar, with basic networking and maybe a LAMP stack?
It would be nice to have a basic X windows environment, but I don't need big piles of Gnome or KDE, and I definitely don't need OpenOffice or lots of the other fun tools. Thanks!
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
I assume Tahr had to go retest everything with OpenSSL updated to avoid the Heartbleed bug?
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Oh boo hoo.
Babby can't go 5 minutes without doing a oopsie in the big scary config file.
Windows is probably the best place for you, or anything else with a nice comfy fisher-price interface.
Alternatively, man the fuck up.
And I thought Steve Jobs was the anti-christ.
So is there any way to cache Ubuntu upgrades, which would let my large collection of virtual and physical lab machines all fetch them from the LAN instead of the each one having to drag them across its WAN? Might as well fetch the official copy just once, and have everything else update at gigabit speeds.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Ubuntu will not work with old pc running XP, not since unity ...
Better option are Lubuntu or Xubuntu ...
Ubuntu should put more efforts on the stability of the operating system rather than features. Is more unstable and slow in every version.
http://www.tecnologiayredes.com.ar