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New 'Google' For the Dark Web Makes Buying Dope and Guns Easy

First time accepted submitter turkeydance (1266624) writes "The dark web just got a little less dark with the launch of a new search engine that lets you easily find illicit drugs and other contraband online. Grams, which launched last week and is patterned after Google, is accessible only through the Tor anonymizing browser (the address for Grams is: grams7enufi7jmdl.onion) but fills a niche for anyone seeking quick access to sites selling drugs, guns, stolen credit card numbers, counterfeit cash and fake IDs — sites that previously only could be found by users who knew the exact URL for the site."

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  1. If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

    Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

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    1. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

      Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

      Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

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    2. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

      I think ATF or DEA is more likely.

    3. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I would rather hit myself in the head with a brick than purchase something illicit from a stranger over the internet.

      How do those culpable enough to consummate such a transaction afford it after giving all that money to the Nigerian Prince?

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    4. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by cellocgw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unknown back doors - as opposed to those backdoors known by secret-government-types?

      Well, you know, there's known backdoors, unknown backdoors, and known unknown backdoors,...

      We'll have to invade TOR.

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  2. Re:Since when is every search engine Google? by n1ywb · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember Archie. And Veronica. And I just got the references after all these years.

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  3. I hate to agree with an A/C, but... by mmell · · Score: 5, Informative

    what he said. While countermeasures can mediate the risk, you should assume that anything you send out electronically can be intercepted, decrypted and traced back to you. You can take steps to make this extremely difficult (hopefully more difficult than catching you is worth), you can certainly take steps I personally couldn't overcome without too much effort; but beating the intelligence gathering capabilities of one or more governments is at best an uncertain proposition (IMHO).

  4. Re:Altavista? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really miss the NEAR keyword. Unless you're searching for a specific phrase in quotes, it was the best way to search.

  5. Re:Good. by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now the FBI and the Sheriff would be able to set up stings more efficiently.

    FBI and the Sheriff? You have no real insight in how law enforcement works here in the US of A, do you?

    There are dozens(!) of different police forces, and they seldom cooperate on anything, but try to not step on each others' toes. A sheriff is county police and would not be involved in any international or interstate crime sting. Speeding tickets, serving divorce notices, arresting the busker in front of the strip mall, signing reports of items stolen, sit in cars at local road work - that's the sheriff's department. Investigative work to catch internet facilitated high crime is not going to involve the sheriff.

  6. Re:Since when is every search engine Google? by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    zmodem was several generations newer.
    kermit -> xmodem -> ymodem -> zmodem

    I still use uucp, by the way. For communicating with faraway sites where the connection depends on a shaky cell phone connection that may or may not be up, it's a pretty good way of moving e-mail and logs.

  7. Re:Good. by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real hidden service URL probably just changed.

    The site advert'd in the Slashdot article is probably itself a "Sting" operation to tag members of the public for the purpose
    of building a blacklist for the /real/ search site at some URL we don't know about.

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, that 'dark web' URL in slapped in such plain view.. screams honeypot. Pass.

  8. Re:Since when is every search engine Google? by davidwr · · Score: 3, Funny

    I take it there's not a whole lot of comments because everybody's on TOR browsing summary address.

    Ah, in that case, don't worry.

    They'll be back the day after tomorrow, when tor has returned results...

    Now there you go again, being overly optimistic.

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  9. Re:"Llets you find?" by davidwr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ack -- posting to undo mod error

    Ah, you must've found the +1 solameitscool super-secret modification option that people with "6" Karma get to use if the computer throws a 20 on the roll of the dice when it give you mod points.

    Sorry you mis-used it, it will be awhile before you get another chance.

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  10. Buying guns? by MasseKid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buying guns is perfectly legal. gunbroker.com, budsgunshop.com, walmart.com. Well, to be fair the last one tells you they are instore only, but the others will gladly and legally ship straight to your FFL.

  11. Re:NSA, all the way by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If people think the NSA isn't all over the dark web, they be dummies.

    The NSA isn't that concerned with where you buy your pot. They aren't even that concerned with where the local gangbanger buys his guns, or where the local perv sources his kiddie porn.

    If you're going to wear the tin foil hat at least direct it at the appropriate three letter agencies: FBI, DEA, ATF, et. al.

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  12. Re:Good. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point of darknets is not to hide the URLs of services, it's to hide the location of the server and the clients connecting to it. Otherwise it would be kinda useless, since to use it you would have to have contact with other users which is risky.

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  13. Re:I wish "you" would drop dead by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Venezuela enacted a country wide gun ban, and violent firearm crime dropped by 1/1000.

    Venezuela has a murder rate of 45.1 per 100,000 post gun-ban. Are you really trying to suggest that their murder rate pre gun-ban was 45,100 per 100,000?

    It should also be noted that the current 45.1 per 100K murder rate is ten times the US murder rate (4.5 per 100K)....

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