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New 'Google' For the Dark Web Makes Buying Dope and Guns Easy

First time accepted submitter turkeydance (1266624) writes "The dark web just got a little less dark with the launch of a new search engine that lets you easily find illicit drugs and other contraband online. Grams, which launched last week and is patterned after Google, is accessible only through the Tor anonymizing browser (the address for Grams is: grams7enufi7jmdl.onion) but fills a niche for anyone seeking quick access to sites selling drugs, guns, stolen credit card numbers, counterfeit cash and fake IDs — sites that previously only could be found by users who knew the exact URL for the site."

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  1. If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

    Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

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    1. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by Wrexs0ul · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...it'll let the Feds find them just as easily....

      Or does anyone seriously think the NSA can't use this service just as well as Random Internet Idiot?

      Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

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    2. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who says the NSA doesn't run the site?

      I think ATF or DEA is more likely.

    3. Re:If it lets you find guns and drugs easily... by cellocgw · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unknown back doors - as opposed to those backdoors known by secret-government-types?

      Well, you know, there's known backdoors, unknown backdoors, and known unknown backdoors,...

      We'll have to invade TOR.

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  2. Re:Since when is every search engine Google? by n1ywb · · Score: 4, Informative

    I remember Archie. And Veronica. And I just got the references after all these years.

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  3. I hate to agree with an A/C, but... by mmell · · Score: 5, Informative

    what he said. While countermeasures can mediate the risk, you should assume that anything you send out electronically can be intercepted, decrypted and traced back to you. You can take steps to make this extremely difficult (hopefully more difficult than catching you is worth), you can certainly take steps I personally couldn't overcome without too much effort; but beating the intelligence gathering capabilities of one or more governments is at best an uncertain proposition (IMHO).

  4. Re:Since when is every search engine Google? by arth1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    zmodem was several generations newer.
    kermit -> xmodem -> ymodem -> zmodem

    I still use uucp, by the way. For communicating with faraway sites where the connection depends on a shaky cell phone connection that may or may not be up, it's a pretty good way of moving e-mail and logs.

  5. Re:Good. by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real hidden service URL probably just changed.

    The site advert'd in the Slashdot article is probably itself a "Sting" operation to tag members of the public for the purpose
    of building a blacklist for the /real/ search site at some URL we don't know about.

    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, that 'dark web' URL in slapped in such plain view.. screams honeypot. Pass.

  6. Re:NSA, all the way by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If people think the NSA isn't all over the dark web, they be dummies.

    The NSA isn't that concerned with where you buy your pot. They aren't even that concerned with where the local gangbanger buys his guns, or where the local perv sources his kiddie porn.

    If you're going to wear the tin foil hat at least direct it at the appropriate three letter agencies: FBI, DEA, ATF, et. al.

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  7. Re:Good. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point of darknets is not to hide the URLs of services, it's to hide the location of the server and the clients connecting to it. Otherwise it would be kinda useless, since to use it you would have to have contact with other users which is risky.

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