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Reinventing the Axe

Nerval's Lobster (2598977) writes "The axe has been with us for thousands of years, with its design changing very little during that time. After all, how much can you really alter a basic blade-and-handle? Well, Finnish inventor Heikki Karna has tried to change it a whole lot, with a new, oddly-shaped axe that he claims is a whole lot safer because it transfers a percentage of downward force into rotational energy, cutting down on deflections. 'The Vipukirves [as the axe is called] still has a sharpened blade at the end, but it has a projection coming off the side that shifts the center of gravity away from the middle. At the point of impact, the edge is driven into the wood and slows down, but the kinetic energy contained in the 1.9 kilogram axe head continues down and to the side (because of the odd center of gravity),' is how Geek.com describes the design. 'The rotational energy actually pushes the wood apart like a lever.' The question is, will everyone pick up on this new way of doing things?"

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  1. Neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is really damn clever. Few thoughts though:

    - My wrists hurt just watching this guy. I gotta imagine some of that rotational force is transferring into the wrist and elbow, which can’t be good over the long term
    - That tire: that's brilliant.
    - That price: that's insane.

    The question is, will everyone pick up on this new way of doing things?

    The new way of doing things is called a log splitter. You can get one pretty cheap now (especially if you can do with electric), and while it doesn't have that same rustic appeal, it works really damn well. Personally splitting and stacking was my chore as a kid (I'd guess I’ve split at least 60 cord in my lifetime), and I'm not planning to ever split a log by hand again.

    1. Re:Neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Also the video shows them splitting some very easy to split wood.

    2. Re:Neat by SJHillman · · Score: 2

      I haven't used a log splitter in at least 10 years, but last time I did, it was considerably slower than doing it by hand. It saved a hell of a lot of energy, but it just wasn't very fast compared to doing it by hand with a good axe.

    3. Re:Neat by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Popular Mechanics agrees. It isn't good for splitting wood that has any tension to stay together.

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    4. Re:Neat by chuckymonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Having grown up splitting enough wood to fill a 30'x30'x10' wood shed every year(not all of it was split but a lot was) and all of it by hand because I grew up poor as dirt I can tell you that it's not as bad as you think. The way this thing rotates is actually how you should split wood anyway, it just takes a ridiculous amount of practice to get it right. With a more traditional single bit axe(no maul, too heavy to swing for hours like I used to) you come down as hard as you can and then right at the moment of impact twist to transfer some of the inertia laterally causing a wider split. The only thing this changes is makes it a hell of a lot easier to do and more efficient because you can get consistent results.

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    5. Re:Neat by jandrese · · Score: 2

      Yeah, my impression of the video is that he's making wood that's easy to split even easier. On something like scrub pine, that axe would probably be a nightmare. I really don't need a breathtakingly expensive maul to split dry birch.

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    6. Re:Neat by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

      My experience with splitters is that they were much faster than doing it by hand, but we were always splitting stuff that required a wedge and multiple strikes because the interlocking fibers would hold the log together (and snap back if you pulled the wedge) until you had pounded practically all the way through the wood. Of course sometimes we got some nice dry poplar and we would be finished with the whole tree in a couple of hours, but usually the wood we were splitting was just awful.

      I can't imagine the guy in this video doing the same with some choke cherry logs.

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    7. Re:Neat by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Informative

      I was wondering about that. If you've got well-seasoned, knot-free, straight logs it splits easily enough with a plain old maul. This may have an advantage over that, but it seems like trying to improve on a situation that's already good enough.

      As the GP says, if you're splitting by hand, you're already choosing to do a job by hand that really can be efficiently outsourced to a machine. (And given the high price of this axe, one that's not necessarily all that much more expensive.) The thwack of splitting can be quite cheerful; you feel like you've accomplished something.

      I'd like to see it applied to some of the crap I've split in my time, where it takes a dozen carefully-placed whacks to get it to go (and sometimes, not even then). That's not fun.

      I had a similar question. When I was first taught to use a maul, I was taught to choose a maul with a handle that puts the kinetic energy slightly off centre from the blade tip -- and if the handle ends up true, to adjust my swing so that at the point of contact, angular momentum is slightly to the side.

      I don't see that this really adds anything other than changing the swing technique needed to use it to an even curve with a straight grip instead of a twist grip -- and it seems to me that this could be a bit jarring on your wrists as the momentum from the design overcomes the way you're holding the axe.

      Wouldn't it be better just to learn how to swing a maul efficiently?

    8. Re:Neat by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      Like most tools, there's a great deal of variability and options out there.

      Some log splitters are painfully slow, whereas some of the better multi-stage/variable speed types probably work at about the rate I could.

      Even with a slow log splitter, I'd rather hang out with a beer and feed the thing over a few hours than spend a half hour with an axe.

      Axes are for chopping -- use a maul for splitting. :)

      I've always found that while a splitter takes less physical effort, the time taken is about the same, minus the time spent refueling, fixing blade alignment, getting the stuck pieces out, etc.

      Plus there's the odd feeling about burning fossil fuels to prepare trees for fuel use -- with me not getting much exercise out of the situation other than a sore back from leaning over to pick up the rounds and load them.

    9. Re:Neat by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Informative

      This applies even moreso to using a maul; after learning the proper technique on a splitting maul as a kid, I found I could do a couple of cords a day without it getting too heavy to swing (maul technique is different than axe technique, where you need more force and twist, less dependency on the mass of the head). Before I switched to a maul, I used to wear myself out using an axe, chopping at the wood instead of splitting it. With a maul, I could concentrate less on the force of the swing, and more on accurate placement of the head. Once you master the technique, using a heavier long-headed maul is actually much easier, as it almost always split the wood on the first drop.

    10. Re:Neat by dwywit · · Score: 3

      Yup. I'd like to see it used on a piece of Ironbark - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...

      Hint: it's not the bark that feels like it's made of iron. There are some eucalyptus species with nice, straight grain, but many don't. You can expend a great deal of energy splitting ironbark, or you can use a chainsaw. Petrol and electric-powered logsplitters are also an option.

      My father recalls being put on tree-felling duty in far north Queensland after returning from WWII, along with many others still in the services, while waiting for their discharge. They were dropping ironbarks to cut up and use as railway sleepers. He told me he doesn't feel the need to chop wood *ever* again.

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    11. Re:Neat by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It fascinates me how many people here on Slashdot have significant experience using axes.

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  2. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When can I 3D print one at home? Surely in this era of 3D printed guns and powerful computers, this should be trivial.

    1. Re:Awesome by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      When can I 3D print one at home? Surely in this era of 3D printed guns and powerful computers, this should be trivial.

      Just 3D print the split logs - duh.

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  3. not an axe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not an axe, axes are not used to split wood. That is a splitting maul, mauls and wedges are used to split wood. And that is actually probably closer to a froe than a maul.

    1. Re:not an axe by lgw · · Score: 5, Funny

      I dunno, I'm pretty happy with my grandfather's axe. It must be over 100 years old, and has the head replaced 5 times and the handle replaced 7 times, but it's a fine old axe.

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    2. Re:not an axe by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fell a tree with this. Oh, and please don't forget to make a video. Either for laughs or a Darwin Award, depends on how you perform...

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    3. Re:not an axe by lgw · · Score: 2

      It's one of the older and more interesting fundamental problems in philosophy. What if you have a rock band, and replace the members one by one, but then the original members re-unite to play their classic tunes, but then both bands go on tour together? What's the identity of each band? Interesting scenarios, yes?

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    4. Re:not an axe by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Axe a Finn. It's late there now, they'll all be drunk.

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    5. Re:not an axe by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 3, Informative

      Solving the following riddle will reveal the awful secret behind the universe, assuming you do not go utterly mad in the attempt. If you already happen to know the awful secret behind the universe, feel free to skip ahead.

      Let's say you have an ax. Just a cheap one, from Home Depot. On one bitter winter day, you use said ax to behead a man. Don't worry, the man was already dead. Or maybe you should worry, because you're the one who shot him.

      He had been a big, twitchy guy with veiny skin stretched over swollen biceps, a tattoo of a swastika on his tongue. Teeth filed into razor-sharp fangs - you know the type. And you're chopping off his head because, even with eight bullet holes in him, you're pretty sure he's about to spring back to his feet and eat the look of terror right off your face.

      On the follow-through of the last swing, though, the handle of the ax snaps in a spray of splinters. You now have a broken ax. So, after a long night of looking for a place to dump the man and his head, you take a trip into town with your ax. You go to the hardware store, explaining away the dark reddish stains on the broken handle as barbecue sauce. You walk out with a brand-new handle for your ax.

      The repaired ax sits undisturbed in your garage until the spring when, on one rainy morning, you find in your kitchen a creature that appears to be a foot-long slug with a bulging egg sac on its tail. Its jaws bite one of your forks in half with what seems like very little effort. You grab your trusty ax and chop the thing into several pieces. On the last blow, however, the ax strikes a metal leg of the overturned kitchen table and chips out a notch right in the middle of the blade.

      Of course, a chipped head means yet another trip to the hardware store. They sell you a brand-new head for your ax. As soon as you get home, you meet the reanimated body of the guy you beheaded earlier. He's also got a new head, stitched on with what looks like plastic weed-trimmer line, and it's wearing that unique expression of "you're the man who killed me last winter" resentment that one so rarely encounters in everyday life.

      You brandish your ax. The guy takes a long look at the weapon with his squishy, rotting eyes and in a gargly voice he screams, "That's the same ax that beheaded me!"

      IS HE RIGHT?

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  4. Wrong wood selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sounds like someone spent all their time with nice, straight grained woods and not things with nasty interlocking grain. I've seen some woods like Eucalyptus that when hit with an axe were more likely to "peel" than split. That is the split would go around the piece instead of through it. I think this twisting action would make that worse. OTOH, having split a bunch of wood, you often apply a twisting force to open up the split, so on the right wood(s) this could be a good feature.

    1. Re:Wrong wood selection by Jorgensen · · Score: 2

      Well... You probably won't find too much Eucalyptus in Finland...

  5. weird axe by smillie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I cut and hand split a couple of cords of wood every year. There are some woods such as poplar (in the video) or willow that split really easy. There are other woods that can be cracked open at the top by three inches and still need a sledge hammer to split the two halves apart. Without seeing how it works on the tough woods I can't tell how useful this new axe would be.

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    1. Re:weird axe by marcgvky · · Score: 2

      Totally agree. Good luck splitting red oak with that...

  6. I look forward to seeing that axe by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    in the next zombie movie.

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  7. Try Google. by Gorobei · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The axe has been with us for thousands of years, with its design changing very little during that time. After all, how much can you really alter a basic blade-and-handle?

    Well, a simple Google image search for "axe catalog" shows 42 different axe heads sold by the Shapleigh company in 1929.

    So, the answer would seem to be "quite a lot."

  8. For splitting wood. by edibobb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This might be good for splitting wood, but there are a lot more uses for an axe. This axe wouldn't work well for most other uses.

  9. The real invention: Tire to hold pieces by mspohr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The splitting maul is interesting but it may take some getting used to and many not catch on...
    However, from the video I see that he uses an old tire to hold the round and this keeps the pieces from flying all over the place. This is actually a great idea!

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  10. Old News by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 4, Informative

    This axe received the InnoFinland honorary award in 2005. http://www.vipukirves.fi/english/description.htm

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