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Apple Reportedly Buying Beats Electronics For $3.2 Billion

An anonymous reader writes "Multiple publications report that Apple is undertaking its biggest acquisition ever, buying Beats Electronics for $3.2 billion. The deal would give Apple control over the popular 'Beats by Dre' headphones as well as a new music streaming service. Analysts suggest the headphones will open up a new series of product lines for Apple, while the streaming service will jumpstart its efforts to compete with Pandora and Spotify, as iTunes' growth slows. 'If Apple wanted to, it could certainly have built a streaming subscription service itself; the company had been floating the notion of one with label executives in recent months. But it's possible that Apple's most recent attempts to extend its music business beyond the iTunes store helped convince Cook that he was better off getting outside help.' The deal hasn't been completed yet, but a candid video of Dr. Dre was posted to Facebook in which he appeared to confirm it."

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  1. Overpriced snake oil salesmen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make a good match for each other.

    1. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The can buy Monster cables next.

    2. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haven't you ever watched Frankenstein? Nothing good ever comes of mixing lighting and monsters...

    3. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Informative

      Right. I continue to be baffled by people that will buy crappy headphones with some random musicians name on them and think they'll in any way sound good.

      In speakers, size matters. Yes, you can get big crappy sounding speakers. But the one thing you'll never get small good sounding speakers. Laws of physics and all. This is also why Bose sucks and have been conning guys that watch infomercials for decades.

      If you want affordable, good sounding speakers, you have to build them yourself. Get one of versions of these:
      https://sites.google.com/site/...

      They don't have a huge amount of bass, but I'm betting they will be the best speaker most slashdotters have ever heard. And you can put them together with wood glue, scotch tape and a soldering iron.

    4. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      One, admittedly limited, blip in the 'size matters' relationship is fully sealed in-ear "canalphone" type headphones. They tend not to be terribly comfortable; but they effectively create a sealed tube, and a small one, with your eardrum on one end, the speaker cone on the other, and a tiny amount of air with nowhere to go in between.

      Under those circumstances, a fairly teeny driver can beat up on your eardrum quite convincingly indeed, a great deal more effectively than a driver of similar size running in free air or partially free air conditions could.

    5. Re: Overpriced snake oil salesmen by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 2

      Shitty, overpriced headphone company that makes money only through hype and marketing, but still light years better of an investment than the billions Facebook paid for the Oculus Rift.

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    6. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      Right. I continue to be baffled by people that will buy crappy headphones with some random musicians name on them and think they'll in any way sound good.

      Agreed.

      In speakers, size matters. Yes, you can get big crappy sounding speakers. But the one thing you'll never get small good sounding speakers. Laws of physics and all. This is also why Bose sucks and have been conning guys that watch infomercials for decades.

      Again, I agree. Bose takes it to a whole new level of suck though. They never post specs, and have sued enough reviewers over the years that most won't even mention them. There have been people who posted specs on their systems from time to time and they are astonishingly bad. I read somewhere that a replacement paper cone "woofer" in their satellite systems will set you back $12. Quality stuff that is.

      If you want affordable, good sounding speakers, you have to build them yourself. Get one of versions of these: https://sites.google.com/site/...

      I suppose it depends on your definition of affordable. But building the cabinets yourself is by no means a guarantee that they will sound good, or even better than commercially available loudspeakers. It doesn't take master carpenter skills, but you certainly need a decent tool set and be at least somewhat competent. I've built some pretty nice cabinets in the past. But they can take a lot of time to do correctly and I value my time a bit more than when I was younger. I've also heard some pretty awful sounding home built cabinets too.

      They don't have a huge amount of bass, but I'm betting they will be the best speaker most slashdotters have ever heard. And you can put them together with wood glue, scotch tape and a soldering iron.

      I needed a small 5.1 system for our living-room that needed to pass the wife approval factor. It's made by Martin Logan and I'd guess it would give your speakers run for their money. It wouldn't have been my first choice, but I needed a small foot print. and since I needed 5 speakers plus a sub,I was able to pick it up on clearance for $300. No assembly required.

      I don't consider myself an audiophile, but I do have good ears for my age. Probably (in part) from playing various instruments starting with the violin when I was five years old. Fortunately my wife had no say in what I put in my media room. Between the sub (HSU VTF3) and Infinity beta floor standers (50), center (360)and surrounds (ES250)I have in there my system goes from 16 Hz to 20Khz (+/-3) and 12Hz to 40Khz (-6). The upper limit of what I can hear at the high end has fallen off, but I can still clearly hear a little past 22KHz. My setup works very well for both 7.1 channel video and 2 channel music listening. I'd guess it would be considered a high end consumer grade system. Most audiophiles would probably not care for it as they are not boutique speakers. But it's also by no means the best sounding system I've ever heard. So no, I doubt those "overnight sensations" are anywhere near the best sounding speaker I've heard.

    7. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Personally, I feel you should just give up on headphones. You're never going to get good bass response

      I agree with everything you've said, but it's worth noting that if you need to use headphones, better is still better than not better. I recently picked up a Motorola S11 Flex HD bluetooth headset, to listen to podcasts while exercising and doing yardwork, and I found that it takes far less mental concentration to listen to voices when the bass is better (the last headset I had had awful bass). I don't know if the additional frequencies are activating more neurons or what, but listening feels very natural, vs. strained on my old headset.

      I'm also very impressed by the amount of bass that they can squeeze of of the little buggers, especially given its very modest power budget. I own a 15" subwoofer too, so I'm not pretending here, but that's harder to carry on the bike.

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    8. Re:Overpriced snake oil salesmen by painandgreed · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you want affordable, good sounding speakers, you have to build them yourself. Get one of versions of these: https://sites.google.com/site/...

      I'm going to look really funny wearing those on the bus though.

  2. 3.2 B by silas_moeckel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For overpriced technically inferior headphones to listen to compressed to hell music.

    Wake me when apple gets a quality pair of headphones and at least cd quality loss-less without DRM.

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    1. Re:3.2 B by JenovaSynthesis · · Score: 4, Informative

      Amen! I finally had a chance to listen to music using Beats. To be fair I gave it a minute or two of listening and came to the conclusion the Sennheiser headphones I bought from Best Buy were much better and 75% cheaper.

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    2. Re:3.2 B by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you think that 256 kbps AAC is "compressed to hell" you probably have a place at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters as some sort of bat-themed superhero.

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    3. Re:3.2 B by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look on the bright side! if Apple starts pushing 'Beats' headphones, odds are good that the number of assholes wandering around in public with their cellphone's shitty little speaker emitting a tinny (but surprisingly loud and penetrating) generic crunk rap noise, like some lilliputan boombox from hell, should be reduced by at least 30% as those same people decide that horrendously inferior headphones are now cooler than inflicting their taste on everyone in the vicinity!

    4. Re:3.2 B by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Different meaning. In audio circles, compression is a technique used during mastering to make the sound louder without inducing clipping artifacts by selectively amplifying the quieter portions of the audio.

    5. Re:3.2 B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wake me when apple gets a quality pair of headphones and at least cd quality loss-less without DRM.

      Why? This is perfectly in line with the rest of Apples products.

      If you want quality products that aren't overpriced there are other brands already available.

    6. Re:3.2 B by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's kind of what happens when the guy with a masters degree in recording and mastering is replaced by DJ Fuzzy Fucktard and his sidekick, Autotoon, rollin' in to master mix the shizit outta anythang...

      There are a lot of well-trained veteran engineers with good ears who have stated that they feel forced to jack the levels up, because that is what the record label demands, and if you go with your audiophile instincts instead of what the label demands, you find yourself out of work.

    7. Re:3.2 B by Noah+Haders · · Score: 4, Informative
    8. Re:3.2 B by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

      That sounds like a perfect fit for technically inferior "free" (goog | fb) products with fake security that spy on you and report everything back to (goog | fb) .

      ftfy

    9. Re:3.2 B by carou · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Different meaning. In audio circles, compression is a technique used during mastering to make the sound louder without inducing clipping artifacts by selectively amplifying the quieter portions of the audio.

      You're right about the ambiguity of the phrase "compressed to hell", but since the GGP then stated talking about "at least cd quality loss-less" I think he really was talking about the lossy file-size compression.

      To the GGP: Try testing yourself at mp3ornot.com if you think you can hear the difference.

    10. Re:3.2 B by watcher-rv4 · · Score: 2

      DRM? Last time I bought an album on iTunes (last Dream Theater album), I could easily extract mp3 320kbps version from all it and do whatever I want with the files. Quality? 320kbps. Enough for my non-monitors headphones.

    11. Re:3.2 B by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      He who pays the piper calls the tune.

    12. Re:3.2 B by radarskiy · · Score: 2

      Yo dawg, I heard you hate compression, so I put some compression in your compression so you can hear artifacts in your artifacts.

    13. Re:3.2 B by semiotec · · Score: 2

      iTunes downloads are 256 kbps AAC. Just because you converted them to 320 kbps doesn't mean you've increased the quality to 320 kbps. If anything, the lossy conversion means you've actually decreased the quality again.

  3. Beats sound like garbage by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 5, Informative

    Artificially-inflated bass crap. Do yourself a favor a get yourself a pair of real studio reference headphones like the venerable Sony MDR-7509s (for a lot less money too) if you want to hear what your music really sounds like. There's a reason that studios around the globe use these and not fuckin' Beats. Beats are a fashion accessory, not a critical listening device.

    1. Re:Beats sound like garbage by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In fairness to 'Beats Audio', and the good 'Dr.' Dre, the 'Beats' brand is so shamelessly pimped that it even makes it onto products that aren't capable of artificially inflated bass. HP put out a 7 inch tablet allegedly with the sonic goodness of Beats, and something that size wouldn't know what 'bass' is, much less produce any, unless its battery exploded.

    2. Re:Beats sound like garbage by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Informative

      Reference audio isn't for everyone, and can be a bit flat when you have a lot of background noise. I'd suggest something like £20 on a pair of nice Sennheiser PX100s. Entry level price, but pleasingly and enthusiastically overcooked sound.

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    3. Re:Beats sound like garbage by CRCulver · · Score: 2

      For home audiophile headphones at an affordable price, I've been pretty happy with my AKG K701. Maybe it's just prejudice, but I'd much rather go with a company that has a reputation for doing one thing (decent headphones) and doing it well, as opposed to Sony whose headphone offerings include plenty of bottom-end Chinese-contracted crap.

      However, while reference headphones are good for listening at home in a quiet environment, they aren't so good for walking around, when is when a lot of people consume their music these days. I couldn't walk down the street wearing my AKG K701 headphones, it would look bloody ridiculous, as they are very bulky, and besides they offer no protection against ambient noise. Beats may have comparatively bad sound quality, but they have a form factor that makes them fashionable when you are on the go, and they protect from ambient noise somewhat more. (You can also get those same mobile advantages with better sound quality with some cheaper entries in the AKG and Sennheiser catalogues.)

    4. Re:Beats sound like garbage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First: studio headphones are optimized for different environments than consumer headphones. This often includes sensitivity and impedance designed for professional audio levels and drivers, something that standard consumer electronics commonly will not drive properly. Try driving a 600 ohm headphone with 90dB/mW sensitivity on a common smartphone.

      Second: studio headphones aren't designed to listen to _music_, they are designed for listening to _sound_. It may be a surprise to many so called "audiophiles" and other elitists that that isn't the same thing - a sound engineer have to be able to hear things clearly in order to adjust mixing and levels for the desired result. Real people listening to real music doesn't need this level of analytic detail and often don't want it. That's the reason one can buy headphones optimized for different listeners and genres - some want a balanced sound, some want voices to be somewhat clearer and many want bass to enhanced. This also includes the "audiophile" gear BTW, not that the fanatics would ever admit to that.

      Third: studio headphones are most of the time overpriced for consumer uses. This is partly because the manufacturers can price them higher given the target market and partly because they are designed to tolerate abuse. Also they often are looking quite shitty.

      That said Beats are at least generally overpriced shit. There are many better alternatives for much less, just go to "non-audiophile" forums and learn.

    5. Re:Beats sound like garbage by Richy_T · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apple and beats? Sounds like a badly conceived pie.

    6. Re:Beats sound like garbage by jbeaupre · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, easy there. They must be good. They were developed by a Dr.

      Pardon me while I put on my Doc Martens to go get a Dr. Pepper.

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  4. Long way from Compton by wiredog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dre's gonna be the first hip-hop billionaire.

    1. Re:Long way from Compton by Kenja · · Score: 2

      Now he can finally afford to go back to school and finish his doctorate. No more living a lie!

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    2. Re:Long way from Compton by wjcofkc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't know why you got scored funny, it's actually true:

      He's a billionaire straight outta Compton -- or so Dr. Dre says, anyway.

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  5. Good fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    2 fashion companies disguised as electronics companies.

  6. Thing Thugs Will Beat You For by drainbramage · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Thing Thugs Will Beat You For" for $200 Alex.
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    1> Apple products are the what the thugs want around here, most only threaten or beat you, some use hand guns.
    2> Those beats headphones got popular and are now being targeted by thugs.
    3> Apple see's another market for repeat (re-beat?) customers.
    4> Profit!

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  7. Just goes to show... by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Informative

    No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

    -H.L. Mencken (paraphrased)

    1. Re:Just goes to show... by Type44Q · · Score: 2

      Which is why most smartphones run Android.

      What, an operating system that exists solely to gather data for the largest player in the advertising world? :p

  8. Oh come on! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    "Ok, sign here...and here...and...here. Well, Congratulations! You bought yourself a 3 billion dollar company!"

    "Thanks! Ok, where's the girl?"

    "Pardon me?"

    "The girl. That Emilly Ratsomehing"

    "Sir, she is a supermodel and did not get sold as part of the deal."

    "WHERE'S MY ACCOUNTANT?!?!?"

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  9. how much is a name worth? by nimbius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because thats all Beats has ever been. The problem apple faces is that Dr. Dre is fast becoming Dr. Grey. in his last 5-10 years hes only made small guest vocal appearances on the behalf of his label members. his most famous songs, 'nuthin but a g thang' for example came out 20 years ago. so while the turtlenecks running apple might remember him from their kegger days in college it has yet to be seen if anyone born after 2000 will even care. Beats in cellular technology and tablets is powered, from what i can guess, by Cowon (a taiwanese manufacturer of high regard for their sound chips and DSP at a very competitive price.) The headphone line originally came from Monster Cable, but now is cranked off the same assembly in mainland china that produces most every other headphone in existence.

    FWIW, If i were apple, i would have marketed a competing brand based on someone like Deadmau5 or Skrillex or Knife Party or any other band actual kids listen to. As an added benefit, these artists already heavily plug and leverage Apple as a brand.

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    1. Re:how much is a name worth? by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always assumed that, in making a studio monitor-looking headphone, Beats was using Dr. Dre's name not for his artist reputation, but for his producer reputation. In recent years, Dr. Dre has produced a number of records even if his own hip-hop albums have slacked off. So, Dr. Dre is to Beats what Quincy Jones is to AKG.

    2. Re:how much is a name worth? by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey man, when you dis Dre you just dis yourself.

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    3. Re:how much is a name worth? by Jahoda · · Score: 2

      Look, I'm not really a fan or anything, so I don't have an emotional investment beyond my general caring for music - but even a quick look at allmusic will show you what Dr. Dre's current credits are, and if you somehow think that kids born after 2000 who are interested in Hip Hop (that is to say all of them) don't know who he is/will even care, then my friend, you're the one who is out of touch. He is a black entertainer of legendary stature, "The Chronic" (again, I say this dispassionately) is to hip hop what Led Zeppelin 4 is to rock.

  10. Don't understand it. by nine-times · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't understand this deal yet, but my problem isn't with Beats headphones being a "rip off". That's not the issue for me. The larger issue for me is, I don't see why Apple couldn't have simply produced their own rip-off headphones if they wanted to, or their own music streaming service. They have the technical ability. They have the design and marketing talent. So what are they getting out of the deal?

    I would imagine that this is either a waste of money, or there's some other calculation. Like maybe record labels have been trying to bend Apple over a barrel when they ask for streaming rights, and in this deal, Apple acquires the streaming rights that Beats had, thereby side-stepping the deal. Or maybe Apple looked at the organization and thought it was a good team as a whole, and rather than trying to steal the employees away one-by-one, they thought it was better to purchase them outright. There's always the explanation that they were buying the customer base, but I'm not sure that'll hold once they rebrand and integrate-- and I would be surprised if they didn't rebrand and integrate it into their existing products/services.

    I don't know. Does anyone have info here that would shed light on the real motivation? Or has Apple just started buying random businesses because they're profitable, without a larger strategic plan?

    1. Re:Don't understand it. by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what are they getting out of the deal?

      An existing very well recognized brand, existing supply chains and contracts for producing "premium" headphones, and existing streaming service with deals with all major record labels and many independent labels.

      Could Apple have reached the same point cheaper if they did it all themselves? Probably. Would it have been as fast? No.

    2. Re:Don't understand it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Buzzfeed, (The Beats Audio of blogspam) has a great article on how it's about hiring Jimmy Iovine.

      http://www.buzzfeed.com/peterlauria/apples-beats-deal-is-all-about-bringing-music-mogul-jimmy-io

      "As part of the $3.2 billion deal to acquire Beats, legendary music executive Jimmy Iovine is expected to join Apple in a “creative role.” The deal is essentially the biggest music industry acqui-hire."

      Also here:

      http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/08/beats-jimmy-iovine-join-apple/

      "Beats Electronics boss and veteran music industry executive Jimmy Iovine is in talks to join Apple as a “special adviser” to Tim Cook on creative matters, two sources close to talks tell The Post."

    3. Re:Don't understand it. by maccodemonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So what are they getting out of the deal?

      An existing very well recognized brand, existing supply chains and contracts for producing "premium" headphones, and existing streaming service with deals with all major record labels and many independent labels.

      Could Apple have reached the same point cheaper if they did it all themselves? Probably. Would it have been as fast? No.

      I think (and from all the up voted comments, I think a lot of people here don't really get this deal) Apple doesn't care about the headphones.

      Beats has a subscription audio service, and a bunch of engineers who are good at making those services work. They have existing contracts for that service, which saves Apple a lot of time they could have spent negotiating and dealing with music labels who want to see Apple brought down a peg.

      The headphones are a nice added bonus for Apple (think of the profit margin on those things), and they probably inflated the buyout price, but they really have nothing to do with the big reasons for this deal.

      Pandora would have been a reasonable alternative as well, but Pandora is a much more expensive buyout than Beats.

  11. Innovation? No, marketing.. by h8sg8s · · Score: 2

    Innovative marketing move. Expect a set of Apple-branded cans with builtin iPod/WiFi and voice control. Not rocket science.

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  12. Beets! by connor4312 · · Score: 3, Funny

    With Apple buying Beets, they're set to dominate the produce market!

  13. message to the studios... by schlachter · · Score: 2

    buying beats is also a bit of a threat/warning to the studios.

    they are making money from the on demand model, but they aren't allowing apple to play in the space because they want to break itune's monopoly.
    by buying beats, apple is saying, look, now we own beats. you want to keep fucking with us, we'll own spotify and pandora too. fuck you.
    now sit down with us and let's make this on demand music thing work and stop trying to erode itunes dominance.

    that's how i see it.

    plus they get an solid brand with a solid music streaming service, a serious cool factor to have dre on board, and a deeper connection to the music industry.

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