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Cable Companies Use Astroturfing To Fight Net Neutrality

An anonymous reader sends a report from Vice which alleges that a trade group for internet service providers is building support for its crusade against net neutrality by funding opinion pieces and letters that masquerade as legitimate public sentiment. 'A disclosure obtained by VICE from the National Cable and Telecom Association (NCTA), a trade group for ISPs, shows that the bulk of Broadband for America's recent $3.5 million budget is funded through a $2 million donation from NCTA. Last month, Broadband for America wrote a letter to the FCC bluntly demanding that the agency "categorically reject" any effort toward designating broadband as a public utility. It wasn't signed by any internet consumer advocates, as the Sununu-Ford letter suggests. The signatures on the letter reads like a who's who of ISP industry presidents and CEOs, including AT&T's Randall Stephenson, Cox Communications' Patrick Esser, NCTA president (and former FCC commissioner) Michael Powell, Verizon's Lowell McAdam, and Comcast's Brian Roberts. Notably, Broadband for America's most recent tax filing shows that it retained the DCI Group, an infamous lobbying firm that specializes in creating fake citizen groups on behalf of corporate campaigns.'

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  1. Money in Politics by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A classic case of corporate interests spending lavishly to buy influence on issues where their interests run counter to those of the public at large. Who was the tool here last week who insisted that this was not a problem?

    1. Re: Money in Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I don't understand is that when a company lies on its ads, it gets fined, but when it lies via other means, nothing gets done, and it's even considered free speech by some. Why? It's all the same to me. There should be no free speech for companies.

  2. They all do this by rabbin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    PR in the US is often just propaganda. It is another avenue through which wealth can be used to exert undue influence over policy by shaping public opinion, deceiving, astroturfing, etc etc. It is justified under Free Speech, but there is no concern for equality: if you have more money, your voice (or the people you pay to spread "your voice") is much more likely affect change. In my opinion, this is wrong.

    I recommend reading the book Deadly Spin by Wendell Potter which shows just how insidious this practice is. The author used to be a top PR executive at several insurance companies but "found his conscience" and is speaking out against it.

    1. Re:They all do this by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Astroturfing should be outlawed as a form of fraud IMO...

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      You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
    2. Re:They all do this by kilfarsnar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      With all the bullshit they are surrounded by, is it any wonder the American people make such poor choices? Whenever someone blames the voters for the state of the union, this is the stuff I think of.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    3. Re:They all do this by stenvar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It is justified under Free Speech, but there is no concern for equality: if you have more money, your voice (or the people you pay to spread "your voice") is much more likely affect change. In my opinion, this is wrong.

      Who gets to decide then which speech is proper and which speech isn't proper? Should we have a "ministry of truth" that determines "for the people" what speech is astroturfing and what speech is not? Should churches and unions be allowed to spend money to speak nationally on political, moral, or financial matters? Should newspapers and media companies, being wealthy corporations themselves, be allowed to engage in political speech? What about citizens grouping together, pooling their money, and then using the pooled money to speak? What organizational form should that take, if not a corporation (usually not-for-profit)?

      I certainly do not want a political system in which only a few kinds of organizations (media companies, churches, unions?) have the right to engage in large scale political speech while everybody else merely has the right to vent in forums, if that. People like you complain a lot, but you don't have a good answer.

    4. Re:They all do this by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps just mandate disclosure of major financial supporters? Speak all you want, but be required to have 'this campaign funded by' in small print at the bottom of the advert.

    5. Re:They all do this by stenvar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's one that's easy: outright lying. Unless you're arguing that fraud shouldn't be illegal, because it's just an expression of free speech. Astroturfing is a form of fraud: you're trying to present views as coming from someone else.

      Broadband for America is quite clear about who their backers are: http://www.broadbandforamerica... And they didn't present themselves as a grassroots organization, SFGate (Hearst Corporation) did.

      But the trouble with demanding truth in free speech is that somebody needs to determine what "truth" is. Either the executive or the courts have to adjudicate. Who do you think will be at the receiving end of determinations of untruth? What do you think the government position would have been on the truth of such statements like "Blacks and whites are equally capable", "Women and men are equally capable", or "Homosexuality is not a disease"? It's minority views that benefit most from being able to speak up against the majority opinion; tolerating lies and deception is the price we pay for that.

    6. Re:They all do this by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just make politicians have to wear patches on their suits indicating who their donors are. NASCAR style.

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      "Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
    7. Re:They all do this by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What about citizens grouping together, pooling their money, and then using the pooled money to speak? What organizational form should that take, if not a corporation (usually not-for-profit)?

      Let's turn that around for a minute: Why should such groups get the privileged status afforded by incorporation, including things like limited liability and favorable tax treatment?

      If all the groups advocating for this "organized" free speech were general partnerships where each member was actually responsible for the group's actions and kept on a level playing field with individuals, that would be one thing. But that's not what's going on here! Instead, the assholes who control these groups want special treatment that places them above individual citizens.

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    8. Re:They all do this by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's how it already works for individuals! In fact, that's exactly why these SuperPACs and whatnot exist: so that the people who control them can gain an unfair advantage over Joe Schmuck who has to stand accountable for his political speech.

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    9. Re:They all do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, thankfully I don't have to live in those "other developed countries".

      You are exactly the type of underinformed, opinionated American that gives the rest of us a bad name.

      Having lived for some time in Germany and England, and travelled throughout most of Europe and Asia, I can say with some experience that there are numerous places much better off than the United States when it comes down to income, healthcare, quality of living, and the ease with which you can start an company.

      Let me repeat that: and the ease with which you can start a company.

      It is an ugly American myth that it is "harder to start a company" in (insert non-US country here). That may be true in some places, but it is demonstrably not true in much of Europe and Canada. In fact, people in the US often find it hard to leave their jobs in order to create a startup because they lose their health insurance and have to buy privately or do without. This has been mitigated to some degree by Obamacare, but it is still an issue that does not plague entrepreneurs in the UK or Germany. Regulations are similar, taxes are much simpler there (Particularly sales tax! Try calculating sales tax for orders taken in one of the fifty states, or one of the dozens of regions of New York State where the rate varies from county to county and in some cases town to town), and barriers to entry are comparable to the US.

      The US is a nice enough place to live, if you're priveleged to have an upper-middle or beter income, better-than-average health insurance provided at no cost by your employer, and not live in an isolated or blighted area, but it is by no means as nice as vast swathes of Europe and some parts of Asia.

      The reason for this is that those areas are much better governed, because they have sane political climates ensured by a limit of campaign funding and controls to prevent people like the Koch brothers and Corporate interests from buying elections wholesale, which in turn limits the amount of corporate whoring their leaders can engage in. Unlike the US, where the Supreme Court has sold out its democracy in Citizen's United like a cheap whore turning tricks on Saturday night.

  3. that's not "astroturfing" by stenvar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Astroturfing is when organizations pretend to be grassroots, community organizations but are clandestinely funded by corporate interests. There is nothing clandestine about the funding for Broadband for America; it's a PR and lobbying organization that consists of a lot of big businesses and some little businesses:

    http://www.broadbandforamerica...

    I don't see why people get their panties in a knot about companies presenting their point of view publicly; you can listen to their arguments and either agree with them or disagree with them.

    1. Re:that's not "astroturfing" by dinfinity · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, the story here is that things like "Broadband for America, a coalition of 300 Internet consumer advocates, content providers and engineers" don't sound like "Broadband of America, an organization sponsored mostly by Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and the likes."

      Attaching the former is disingenuous, as it mischaracterizes the organisation as being some kind of collective of consumer-oriented institutes. Of course, technically it doesn't say that, but most people are too oblivious to read between the lines of such a statement. So clearly, people become misinformed due to tactics such as these. What do you suggest we do to fix this misinformation?

    2. Re:that's not "astroturfing" by stenvar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Attaching the former is disingenuous, as it mischaracterizes the organisation as being some kind of collective of consumer-oriented institutes

      Yes, it's "disingenuous", but it's not Broadband for America's disingenuity because they didn't write that; that's how the SFGate byline characterizes BFA, so you should blame SFGate.

      What do you suggest we do to fix this misinformation?

      Shut down SFGate or the Hearst Corporation? Nuke all of SF from orbit ("it's the only way to be sure")? Create a politburo or a Minitruth? I dunno, you tell me what you're willing to do in the name of "fixing misinformation".

      Personally, I'd do nothing. Although SFGate writes a lot of nonsense, and lots of people (hello there) seem to be eating up that nonsense, ultimately, I believe in free speech, including the ability of people to counter nonsense spewed by big corporate entities like the Hearst Corporation (SFGate).

    3. Re:that's not "astroturfing" by HeckRuler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      forgetting that the corporations are only doing what they're chartered to do: using every resource to increase wealth for their share-holders.

      Corporations aren't ~allowed~ to consider "the greater good" over that profit,

      Except that CEOs can do practically ANYTHING and justify it as "increasing wealth for the share-holders".

      Here we go:
      1) Fire everyone, sell everything, liquidate like it's 1999. This increases the bottom-line of the company and makes it easy to increase the wealth of the shareholders (effectively removing the risk of not knowing what the stock is worth, do all that liquidation and you have a definite value the stock can be compared against)

      2) Go into debt, hire a shit-ton of scientists, designers, artist, whoever to invest in the product so that next year/decade they'll be able to corner the market, bring in more money, and increase wealth for the shareholders.

      3) Dodge all taxes as it leaves more money for the shareholders

      4) Pay all the taxes as it removes the risk of the government coming in a busting up the company, shattering the wealth of the shareholders.

      5) Pissing it all away on hookers and blow. "Hey, I'm a high-powered businessman, I make you the money. Walk away, leave me in charge, and you'll get your quarterly gains (as long as the economy is still booming)."

      6) Axing all of the top skill and people with connections in the business. They're just doing lines of blow. It's not like we really need that guy whose mother is running the government regulator, I'm sure she'll be professional. Removing this overhead increases wealth for the shareholders.

      All of that happens and in some cases is even the smart thing to do. If you think corporations are somehow LEGALLY REQUIRED to curb-stomp you, then you have no flipping clue what happens in the business world.

  4. The principle of the USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... fake citizen groups ...

    It is government of the [common] people, by the [fake] people, for the [rich] people. Sounds legit.

  5. Re:Chattanooga of all places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The segregated South was progressive? LOL.

    Nah, feeling superior to an entire half of a nation simply because of where they are located, pretending like they are all one homogeneous block who all think and feel the same way, looking down on them, then patting yourself on the back for how amazingly progressive and unbiased you are is so much better.

    You're one of those lemmings who needs the notion of "protected groups" to define for you how you should feel and about whom you should feel it. You really have no true understanding of your own of what prejudice really is and why it's wrong, because you are obviously eager to apply your own brand of prejudice against anyone not previously defined for you as a "protected group". That is called identity politics and politicians love it because it makes divide-and-conquer so easy. It's practically a vote factory! And here you are, enabling and embracing it, just so you can feel like your own particular bigotry is legitimate. Disgusting.