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Cisco Spending Millions of Dollars Secretly Purchasing New Juniper Products
FrankPoole (1736680) writes According to a CRN investigative report, Cisco has been spending millions of dollars over several years to secretly purchase Juniper Networks' products, including new QFabric and MX series routers, for use in its 'competitive analysis lab,' where the products are tested and reverse engineered. According to the report, some of the Juniper products purchased by Cisco were still in beta and not yet commercially released. In addition, CRN discovered that a main source for Cisco to obtain these Juniper products was, ironically, a company called Torrey Point Group, a fast-growing VAR that was awarded Juniper's Part of the Year in 2011.
Dogs lick their balls. What's new?
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
Perhaps they resell the products.
1. Get Juniper routers
2. Put custom firmware with NSA backdoor
3. ?
4. Profit
As soon as you start putting something on the market, especially if you are not selling directly to the end customer (i.e., through a distributor or VAR), you have to assume that your competitors are going to get ahold of your products. Expect them to be reverse engineered. Trade Secrets do not exist once it's out in the wild.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if Cisco didn't have this stuff. I would also be surprised if Juniper didn't have Cisco products.
Does anyone really think Juniper doesnt't purchase Cisco gear in a similar fashion? Corporate behavior like this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
If it wasn't for legal reverse engineering, most of us would be sitting in front of $2000 IBM PCs.
I actually read it as "Crisco Spending Millions of Dollars Secretly Purchasing New Juniper Products" and was confused as to why a food oil brand was expanding into products using the coniferous plant Juniper.
If it wasn't for legal reverse engineering, most of us would be sitting in front of $2000 IBM PCs.
Don't forget the IBM v Phoenix lawsuit. IBM wanted it that way, and thank goodness, they lost.
Gin infused pies, of course.
Car analogy actually works here there - people selling Abcd cars would drive Bghj and Celkj cars
That Celkj sounds like some new East European vehicle brand.
Juniper products are with few exceptions a million times better
Be more specific.
Okay... 1,070,204.982 times better - with a few exceptions.
When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
Various web hosting providers including GoDaddy have been known to buy hosting accounts at competitors. This is often done with a company credit card under the name of a company executive or division manager. They do it to see things like how much traffic a common application like WordPress or ZenCart can take on various price points for hosting at the competition. They may also check out customizations to the control panel software and choose which features they may want to implement for their customers, too. This is often not even frowned upon by the target company. It's an endorsement that you're of interest to the competition for one thing.
Figuring out how your performance compares to the competition is quite different from being able to improve your own performance without killing your margin. That said, with something as easily monitored as a server account any attempts to poke around under the hood too much are easier to stop than in hardware like Juniper/Cisco.
On some Cisco equipment you can tell it to ignore the non Cisco SFP's. In the Cisco Transport gear and large routers like the ASR9k you cannot use non Cisco SFP's. In fact Cisco transport gear won't use Cisco SFP's sold as router sfp's.