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France Cries Foul At World Cup "Spy Drone"
mpicpp (3454017) writes with news of amateur drones appearing at the World Cup, quoting Ars Technica: "France's World Cup soccer team has filed a complaint with FIFA, claiming that someone used a small unmanned aircraft to spy on the team's training camp near São Paulo, Brazil as players prepared for their match against Honduras Sunday, the BBC reports. The quadrocopter appears from video to be a Phantom II autonomous micro-drone with a video camera.
'Apparently, drones are being used more and more,' France's manager Didier Deschamps told the BBC. 'We don't want intrusion into our privacy. It's hard to fight.' Deschamps did not comment on who might be behind the surveillance but said in an interview with Football Italia that he believed the drone was operated by one of France's potential opponents or by a French news agency." Police later captured the drone operator, who claimed just to be a fan bitten by a bit too much curiosity.
'Apparently, drones are being used more and more,' France's manager Didier Deschamps told the BBC. 'We don't want intrusion into our privacy. It's hard to fight.' Deschamps did not comment on who might be behind the surveillance but said in an interview with Football Italia that he believed the drone was operated by one of France's potential opponents or by a French news agency." Police later captured the drone operator, who claimed just to be a fan bitten by a bit too much curiosity.
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In many ways, I would like to say "shoot the damn thing!" but depending on local laws that could get ugly. This camp was private property and closed to the public, right?
Still, there must be some way to deter such drones. Capture, and release after disabling the camera? If the drone gets damaged during the capture...well...C'est la vie!
Of course, if it's not private property, my level of sympathy would decrease greatly.
They are still at $1000 but once these toys fall below a tenth of that price, some things will have to change.
It will start with laws to regulate their possession and fines for illicit uses, but it will also promote a business of countermeasures.
Nude beaches, celebrity mansions, "secret" open air activities or even high end hotels that want to guarantee some degree of privacy to their customers, will want a way to block their use.
Whoever knows how to make an anti-drone device better patent it quickly and put it on Amazon for hundreds of bucks. Clients will soon come.
How long before they surrender?
Cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Don't play foozball outside. Duh.
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It's worth noting why the French team in particular, so vehemently object to drones, in a way that other nationals might not, or at least might do so less outspokenly.
In France you have ownership of your own image. A photographer needs to have your permission if they want to take a photo that has you as the main subject.
Obviously they don't need permission if you're just an incidental bystander or a face in a crowd. But if you're one of the primary subjects, then in France, you have to give your permission.
This also applies to merchandising and the law is often used in a similar way to trademarking or endorsement.
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"We've got the advantage! Their game plan is to kick the ball and run after it. Looks like they have a move where they kick it to another player."
All the ways france is not a valid football team :D they are going to lose :D being spied on or not :D .. I guess they are just looking for excuse as to why they will lose.
Probably the Germans doing reconnaissance on the French squad.
I don't know who told you this, but they were wrong. When you're out in public anyone may take your photo at any time and they may distribute that photo to whoever they wish, and they may even exhibit that photo. What they may not do, and why there are release forms and models, is ever use your public photo to advertise a product or advance a political agenda [unless you were actively participating in a political action of some type in the photo]. They also must be careful about the context, for if they slander you in any manner that is not true, then you have a case against them. Of course the photo has next to nothing to do with it except to identify you.
Imagine if you had a perfect family photo and some asshole insisted you delete it because he happened to walk into the frame? Fortunately, you never have to. There's a lot of misinformation out there on this subject and in the past that was largely harmless, but with personal cameras having wings now it may be time for an awareness campaign of some type.
Property rights are another matter. With respect to airspace and the U.S. cause to hell with Brazil, it's something to take up with the FAA.
So the rest of the world can watch it blow up real good. LA car chases? Pfff! How about daily coverage of cars in Baghdad blowing up real good! FIFA in Brasil? Pfff! Baghdad blowing up real good is IMPOSSIBLE to beat. So,
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Paintball gun. Non-damaging to the drone, preserves privacy. Simples.
French privacy laws :
That is true... only when you publish the picture... On public grounds, you can take all the pictures of people you want... You need their permission to publish, not to shoot...
Anyone else notice the shadow of the drone flying over the actual matches (with accompanying replay footage from said drone after certain plays)? Was I the only one fixated on the shadow during the Germany vs Portugal match to see if it was just the usual camera running on wires up and down the field until it went circling in ways only a drone could? The shadow ended up being a corner-of-view distraction to me - I wonder if the players see it moving and think a player might be coming up behind them.
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Football is, like basketball, largely a game of reaction.
How could "spying" on a training camp be that useful?
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We need a revision to the common law statues around private airspace. This law is horribly outdated in the modern environment.
Reasonable provisions could be made, for example, one has complete control of all airspace 500m above their property. This would not interfere with any "real" aircraft but would prohibit spying by cheap quadcopters without a warrant.
"someone used a small unmanned aircraft to spy on the team's training camp"
A 410 loaded with some bird shot and choked right would solve that problem real easy for you and be of no real danger (except for the drone).
I love my Phantom II with camera gimbal!
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Teams of the future will need to have tall poles with hoisted camouflage netting to counter to drone spying (assuming they cannot find indoor facilities). Perhaps also outward facing strobe lights to distort the camera's imaging.
I like my privacy.
In many ways, I would like to say "shoot the damn thing!" but depending on local laws that could get ugly. [...]
Still, there must be some way to deter such drones. [...]
Microwave guns perhaps?
Most of electronics will get fried and force the device to go down, but there aren't any trajectories as the beam will travel in a straight line, so you don't have to worry about collateral damage (besides where the drone goes down perhaps).
...the phrase "That's why they make shotguns" applies here.
Peace is easy to achieve, just surrender. Liberty is much harder get/keep.
My AR. Drone 2.0, made by Parrot, a French company arrived today! Can't wait to try it out..
Totally possible as there are stalkers everywhere. :)
Don't they mean watching their acting lessons? I'm wondering which team gets the best chance at an academy award this year.