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Microsoft Wants You To Trade Your MacBook Air In For a Surface Pro 3

mpicpp writes with news about a new Microsoft trade-in program to encourage sales of the new Surface Pro 3. Microsoft is offering a limited time Surface Pro 3 promotion via which users can get up to $650 in store credit for trading in certain Apple MacBook Air models. The new promotion, running June 20 to July 31, 2014 -- "or while supplies last" -- requires users to bring MacBook Airs into select Microsoft retail stores in the U.S., Puerto Rico and Canada. (The trade-in isn't valid online.)...To get the maximum ($650) value, users have to apply the store credit toward the purchase of a Surface Pro 3, the most recent model of the company's Intel-based Surface tablets.

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  1. Not likely. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Informative

    The MBA and MBP are both fine machines. My wife get's a computer that works most of the time. I get a computer with a bash shell on which I can do my thing. Neither have shown any tendency to falls apart, unlike every Asus, Lenovo, Toshiba and HP we've had.

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    1. Re:Not likely. by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 5, Informative

      What he means, I think, is that most computer companies make "consumer grade" machines and "commercial grade" machines. I've not has an Asus or Lenovo, but I've had Toshiba, HP, and Dell. With respect to Dell, I've had both consumer and commercial grade machines, built to higher specifications. Most recently I purchased a Dell Latitude 5000 series laptop--in Dell's explanation of this computer in comparison to the 7000 series, it gave the 5000 series a build quality of 3 out of 4 stars, it gave the 3000 series 2 out of 4 stars (still Latitude--which implies the consumer grade stuff is 1 out of 4 stars for build quality). The consumer grade machines seem to be designed to last about 2 years or less. The commercial grade machines are designed to last more like 4 years.

      The problem is, you have to pay a premium for the commercial grade machines.

      With Apple, there is no "consumer grade" and "commercial grade"--they're all made to high specifications.

    2. Re:Not likely. by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So the magic mouse swipe gestures aren't obvious to people used to regular mice, I was very resistant, but I now love and miss them.

      But I otherwise agree, I don't find anything about OSX to be "intuitive" to people used to using windows or linux. OSX is a fine windowing system, but it's a little rough around the hedges when it comes to usability for the portion of the world that simply cannot become Apple converts.

      Hardware wise though, I have not found anything that comes close to an MBP. Windows or OSX, it beats the unholy snot out of its competition.

  2. "up to" $650 for a macbook air trade in? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In 'good' condition... they're worth more than that on Craigslist...

    1. Re:"up to" $650 for a macbook air trade in? by guruevi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The funny thing is, MBA's even early models are still worth a pretty dime second hand (usually 50-80% of purchase price based on condition and age), Surface Pro's won't fetch more than 1/3 of their purchase price.

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  3. This is telling by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What this tells me is that Microsoft has given up trying to promote the Surface as a tablet. It's a laptop that happens to have a detachable keyboard. Note that they didn't even try to offer a trade-in of ipads for the surface, which would be a more reasonable comparison if the surface was successful as a tablet. The ipad is a different use case, and Microsoft just doesn't play well in that space.

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    1. Re:This is telling by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Microsoft's advertising for the Surface has shown that they don't get what tablets are FOR, from day one.

      "And you can get a keyboard for it, and OF COURSE, it runs Microsoft Office"

      'Cause THAT'S what people do with tablets...

    2. Re:This is telling by danomac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, Microsoft is now going for portable business integration. You can manage them with Active Directory - I just added one.

      We are looking to go more portable at work but we don't want to have a laptop and a tablet for every user. Picked up one of the new Surface 3 devices and while it looks like it will integrate nicely for our day-to-day use at work, I don't like it enough to have one at home for personal use. It's actually got some well thought out ideas in the device.

      Given that an iPad can cost $1k now (256GB storage, same as this Surface Pro 3 I'm testing) It's not too far-fetched in price in my opinion, seeing as you can do more with it and aren't constrained to the App or Play store. Doesn't mean I'd buy one for personal use, though. Once the docks are released I can see potential for it replacing some of our old workstations.

  4. See even Microsoft thinks MacBook Airs rule! by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 4, Funny

    They'll do anything to pick them up cheaply, even trade some unwanted Surface 3's for some!

    Jokes aside (and please don't mod for flamebait, it's sarcasm above, downmod for a bad joke if anything) ...

    I don't think will go much. You're assuming that someone values their $1000+ dollar MacBook Air at $650 and values the Surface at something worth the discount. Considering the amount of work you'd have to do to migrate (either Windows to Mac, or Mac to Windows) you have to think about 200-300 realistically for swapping costs. Makes good headlines (as we see here) but won't help much.

    1. Re:See even Microsoft thinks MacBook Airs rule! by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a programmer. I've written GUI code, I've written a device driver that shipped in a commercial UNIX kernel. I've used Windows since 3.1 days (WindowsForWorkgroupsForTheWin!). I've even debugged and configured Windows Vista in Chinese even though I can't read it - I was able to get someone to translate the occasional dialog box.

      I can not understand Win8. When my sister asks me to help configure something on her Win8 laptop, I struggle with the UI as if I'm some rookie coming from some stoneage tribe.

      I hate hate hate hate Windows 8.

    2. Re:See even Microsoft thinks MacBook Airs rule! by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh good. I am not alone. I've seen some of the most arcane interfaces on this planet, some of them not seen by more than a handful of people altogether, so arcane and mysterious that its name shall not be spoken. GUIs that made you beg for a CLI, for you knew that even if you had to memorize all the commands and had no -? to aid you, it could not possibly take more than a fraction of the time you'd need to get behind the twisted logic of the GUI in front of you. I cursed them, but I mastered them all, in little time.

      Metro is a mystery. It simply has no rhyme or reason to it. It fucking makes no sense AT ALL. No matter what you want to do, applying sense and logic is the wrong way to do something. Usually you find your way around by pondering "Now, what would be the LEAST intuitive way to do something?", and usually you shall be rewarded with a solution.

      If you offered me the choice "Metro or..." my answer, before you are done with the sentence, is "the other one". Even if you end in "or a stone tablet".

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  5. Where do I sign up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To get one of the trade in Mac Book Air (s) ??

  6. Slashdot editors owe me a new keyboard. by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "While supplies last." That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

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  7. Re:224 miles round trip by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Microsoft wants any uptake on these promotions it needs to find religion and begin praying for a miracle, because the group of people you can almost guarantee are the least likely to switch to Microsoft products are Apple owners.

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  8. Psst.. Hey buddy! by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll give you $5 for your $20 bill!

    I think I'm going to like this new MS CEO...

  9. reverse it & you'll see M$ is desperate by globaljustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft is desperate.

    How can you tell?

    Let's reverse this...can you imagine if Apple gave a similar $$ discount on Macbook Air & iPads in trade for a Microsoft Surface?

    bummed out x-mas gift recipients would line up around the corner!

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    1. Re:reverse it & you'll see M$ is desperate by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Microsoft is desperate. How can you tell?

      I think the explanation is obvious: Microsoft employees want those nice shiny MBAs, but because they don't have the money anymore, they want to barter for them with those SPs lying in their warehouses. ;-)

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    2. Re:reverse it & you'll see M$ is desperate by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Last time I was in their neighborhood, MS employees were hauling MBPs around as their primary laptops. I never understood how they could get away with that, but "research" was in their job title...

    3. Re:reverse it & you'll see M$ is desperate by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Now many companies have an "eat your own dogfood" policy. But when your product is less desirable than actual dogfood then employees figure out a way around the policy.

  10. My 2 year old MBA still beats their Surfactant3 by spiritgreywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously. I love the MacBook Air I got a couple of years ago. The thing works very well, and even runs the occasional VMWare Fusion image of Windows 7 I need to run occasionally off of a portable thunderbolt drive. On a whim I got one of the earlier Surface tablets when the wife and I were in Vegas and they had a Kiosk where they were practically giving them away - but for the life of me still cannot use it for anything truly productive.

    Trade in a MacBook Air for a surface?! Sorry Microsoft. You've been a day late and a dollar short ever since Ballmer pissed on the idea of tablets and smartphones and Apple smoked you and ate you for breakfast. Apple would have to skullf**k a small, disabled child onstage during their next keynote to even _think_ of falling behind enough for you to catch up to relevancy.

    Microsoft - As long as I can virtualize your OS, take a snapshot and rollback when your OS takes a dive and run it all on a machine that, you know, _works_ I won't buy another piece of hardware branded by you. Ever.

    And as another poster mentioned, "While supplies last." Really? Wow, even with Steve "Developers Developers Developers" Ballmer gone, you _still_ have a great sense of humor.

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  11. Re:Great deal! by clarkn0va · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, it seems even Microsoft would rather have Apple's product than their own.

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  12. They Multiply... by imag0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here recently I run by the store on the way home to pick up some milk. Was in a rush and left my Surface Pro on the front seat, in plain view.

    When I came out, I discovered someone had broken into my car and left three more Surface Pro's :(

  13. Re:Great deal! by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Surface Pros can do things that no other tablet can. Your jealousy is showing.

    That's nice and all, but your lack of useful and relevant examples is rather glaring.

    I don't think anyone here is denying that the Surface line is trying to do something that's quite a bit different from what other tablets are doing. They're definitely targeting a different set of use cases than what the iPad, Fire, or Galaxy Tab lines are hitting, and I have no doubt that the Surface Pro can do stuff no other tablet can. But the important question isn't, "Does it do stuff no one else can?" The important question to ask is, "Are the things it can do of interest to people and executed well?" And based on sales numbers, professional reviews, and numerous firsthand accounts both here and elsewhere, the answer is a resounding, "No".

    Really, when you get down to it, the Surface line is simply a fresh iteration of the same strategy Microsoft has been employing in the tablet space since the early 2000s: put Windows everywhere so that users can have the power of a "PC" in their hand. The only thing that's changed is the execution, and you don't need to look long and hard at Windows 8 reviews to know that they botched that as well. The strategy may actually work for them if it is executed properly, but the fact that the market stayed nascent for ten years until a competitor introduced a device employing an alternative strategy indicates that they didn't get it right then, and the fact that the Surface line hasn't seen any real uptake should be good indications that either the strategy is a losing one or else that they have yet to execute properly on it.

    TL;DR: Just because a device can do stuff other devices can't doesn't mean it's a good idea. We don't want compact cars with truck beds, wedding cakes from Burger King, or tight-fitting exercise shorts made of designer denim. In trying to be both a tablet and laptop, the Surface ended up being good at neither.

  14. Re:Great deal! by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hold up: you're missing an important distinction.

    The MacBook Air isn't just a laptop. It is a laptop. That's all it is, and it's a darn good laptop. It does laptop things really well.

    By not just being a tablet, the Surface has failed to be good at being anything at all. If you pit it against laptops, it's under-specced for the price. For that sort of money, you can do a lot better elsewhere. And if you pit it against tablets, it's lacking apps and overpriced. It's in a weird space between the two that no one is interested in. I commend them for trying something different than everyone else and trying to carve out a unique niche (really, I do!), but I don't see how this particular execution of their strategy can be painted as anything other than an extended failure that has yet to turn the corner. I honestly hope it will, but it has yet to do so.

  15. In other news... by Macman408 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Ford is offering a rebate on a new Fiesta (with power locks and windows!) for anybody willing to trade in their Tesla Model S.

  16. The commercials say a lot. by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apple commercials show people doing actual useful things with their gear. MS commercials show people magically dancing through time and space with their gear.

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