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Apple Kills Aperture, Says New Photos App Will Replace It
mpicpp (3454017) writes Apple told news website The Loop that it has decided to abandon Aperture, its professional photo-editing software application. "With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture," Apple said in a statement to The Loop. "When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS." The new Photos app, which will debut with OS X Yosemite when it launches this fall, will also replace iPhoto. It promises to be more intuitive and user friendly, but as such, likely not as full featured as what Aperture currently offers.
Good news for people who spent money on plugins for Aperture.
Having to buy Imagenomic's plugins again for Lightroom makes me super happy. Not.
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From what I've read, you'd be wrong about that. Link your source or I have to call misinformation / FUD on that one.
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Apple wants you to buy shower curtains. That's the only viable way for Aperture to grow an innovate.
I stopped using iPhone years ago because of it's horrible UI and way of pulling everything into its ecosystem. I hated the fact that Lion removed both spaces and expose and replaces them with the mission control rubbish. And I really hated how Apple destroied their Final Cut product and told professional video editors to basically use their new iMovie pro.
And yet people will tell you all the above is better, because they love Apple and can't see past that. It's like being with a women who started smoking cigarettes and puts on an extra 20kg. You still love her for some arbritrary reason of a memory of what she once was.
"to safely store all of your photos in iCloud" Rated +5, Funny. I don't mean any specific criticism of iCloud, but ...for God's sake...the idea that anything at all is "safe" in the cloud...is hilariously wrong.
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I've been using Aperture since it first came out.I never liked how Lightroom worked - it certainly has powerful capabilities, but you have to do things exactly the way it wants you to do them. Aperture seemed better at getting out of my way.
If the new Photos app doesn't have all of Aperture's tools, though, I may not have a choice. And, with Aperture gone, I imagine Lightroom will quickly switch to the subscription model Adobe is trying to force down our throats with all their other titles. But I'm going to wait and see what the new app is like before committing, one way or the other. Adobe's "double down on Lightroom" statement can be seen two ways - and one of them is they may be worried about what's coming.
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Aperture won't run in Yosemite because Apple wants you to use the new app.
Not according to this which claims "an Apple spokesman told them" (distinct lack of "horse's mouth" links, unfortunately) that it would be updated to run on Yosemite.
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Well, Ive was one of the most outstanding executive officers this company's ever produced. He was brave, outstanding in every way. And he was a good man, too, humanitarian man, a man of wit and humor. He joined the Software Engineering Group. After that, his... uh... ideas... methods... became... unsound... unsound.
Now he's crossed into California with this mountaineered army of his that... worship... the man... like a god, and follow every order, however ridiculous...
...very obviously, he has gone insane.
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Your mission is to proceed down the San Francisco Bay in a Blue Navy petrol boat, pick up Sir Ive's path at Cupertino, follow it, learn what you can along the way. When you find the officer, infiltrate his team by (ahem-hem) whatever means available, and terminate the executive's position.
...terminate the executive...
...terminate with extreme prejudice.
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thanks... how do I get to that page... besides your link of course. I can't seem to find it otherwise.
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Aperture won't currently run in Yosemite. Aperture will be updated to run under Yosemite but that's the last update it's going to get.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2...
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There is a trend in Apple about going mass market and streamlining software, and in their minds this means removing features for the sake of being 'family friendly'. This is happening at all levels from the OS itself (remember spaces?) to any Apple-brand apps (Final Cut, Aperture, iWorks). In some cases Apple will simply discontinue their software overnight and leave their users in the dust, but in other cases it is actually worse. The Pages desktop word processor was discontinued and substituted with a port of the iPhone version, which doesn't support any of the advanced features, with the whole operation was masqueraded as an 'upgrade'. The new app actively destroyed user documents it didn't understand (most of them), overwriting them by default (no 'save' operation required, simply opening a document would destroy it, keep in mind 'save' is regarded as an advanced operation now).
You would expect a big corporation to be slow, clumsy but conservative and safe, with extremely long lines of support for their products. As you may remember, 'nobody gets fired for choosing IBM'. Well, Apple is slow and clumsy, but unpredictable and extremely unsafe. Betting your business in any kind of Apple hardware or software is an extremely stupid move. You should, and will be fired for choosing Apple.
Yes, one of the two major professional tools in the market place being discontinued for a yet-to-be-detailed replacement intended to cover both the prior professional market and the consumer market is indeed the same as Microsoft killing a product hardly anyone had heard of.
My buddy GLaDOS would have some words with you.
*Pulls out a portal gun*
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Two words that should send professional users running for cover.
Given the size of raw images, the only way a cloud-based "app" could work with any speed would be if you kept your raw image on your device and the cloud only stored your editing diffs, which would be quick to download and apply to your image each time you opened the app. Of course, that negates the idea that "all your data belong to us" and means you have to carry all your raw images on all your devices to be able to access and edit them at whim.
I can see the point of using a remote server to hold images that have been captured away from your workstationbut once they've been downloaded there, there's no reason why a remote server need be involved in any editing activity. Or that an editor should be called an "app".
Buggerem, that's what I say!
How do you get to charge your customers for the same program again? You kill the app and re-release it as a "new product". Apple is just now realizing that the app store model doesn't keep the customer paying for upgrades.
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I'm a photographer - not really affected by the change, been using Lightroom for 3 years now. But before Aperture users panic, take a look at what Thom Hogan writes about the change (he's more or less an Apple insider when it comes to photography): http://www.dslrbodies.com/acce...
Then why don't you just set your /. preferences so you don't get Apple stories and be done with it? Why are you telling us? Learn how to use your account preferences.
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Apple wants to dumb down the computer by replacing professional software with some cloud-based crap that "just works". Simple as that..
"With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere"
I'm going to have my 70GB Aperture library in the cloud? I'm going to replicate a RAW workflow in the cloud? I've NEVER had a desire to access that on my iPhone, nor can I imagine anyone did. If one had the desire to export to iCloud they could; no one was forced to. There's got to be something else going on here that we're not privy to, but based on what I've heard they'd be better off selling the product to Nik/Google than letting it die (and trust me, that was hard to type).
Sucks.. Cloud as an additional option, ok.
So i assume that this new 'version' will be geared towards the home market and not professional. That seems to be the trend for apple.
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So a FREE app (#1) for a small subset of people will soon be replaced by another FREE app (#2) for a small subset of people and the author thinks that #2 will have less features than #`1 but of course it will only affect a small subset of people.
Well tea in China may get expensive next year too.
Don't be beholden to one company, be it Apple, ChinaTeaCo, or anyone. Then you don't have to whine when one app you didn't pay a dollar for FREE app (#1 or #2) you don't feel like wadding up tissues and crying. Man up. Or woman up. Either way quit whining.
Free market. Haven't heard about it? That's where you can go buy things not made by Apple. Then you're not beholden to their stupid movements, bowel or market.
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So a FREE app (#1) for a small subset of people will soon be replaced by another FREE app (#2) for a small subset of people and the author thinks that #2 will have less features than #`1 but of course it will only affect a small subset of people./p>
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Of course app #1 wasn't free....
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Aperture is fantastic software, adding a cloud backend will be awesome. I'm not an expert like you guys, I'm just a photojournalist who has been all digital since the NC2000e.
So apple is retiring a photo editing software product and expects their customers to switch to their cloud photo editing service. They're replacing images stored locally with images stored externally.
Ignoring Snowden and the NSA for the moment, let's look at LEGAL seizure of your pictures to be used as evidence by government agencies, in rule enforcement, investigation, and criminal prosecution.
Not only are files under your physical control y'harder to get to physically than those transmitted over the Internet and stored in a vendor's server farm, they're also on better legal ground. The Supreme Court seems bent on treating electronic files, under your control, just like paper files locked in a safe at home. Just three days ago they ruled that police can't even search information stored on a cellpone carried by an arrestee without first coming up with probable cause and obtaining a warrant.
The last I heard, though, they considered information you stored on some vendor's servers to have been disclosed - that you have "no expectation of privacy" with respect to it. The police can go fishing through it just by asking, without jepoardizing prosecutions that result from what they fiind. Even if the third party cloud service demands paperwork rather than just giving access, a company like Apple has far less interest in protecting your data from fishing expeditions than you do.
Given the rat's nest of laws in the US, the prevalance of false or mistaken prosecutions, and the deliberate use of the legal and tax systems to punish those disliked by those in power (at all levels), I'd think nio sane person would put any personal information onto a cloud service (without at least encrypting it locally first with a key unknown to the service), let alone in a form that could be manipulated on the service. Photos are a particular risk, for a number of reasons I don't think I need to enumerate.
So I'd think that, both for personal use and for professional photographers, the substitution of a cloud service for a local tool working on locally stored data, would be unacceptable.
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oh yeah? Enlighten me as to how I would do that because every time I've looked at it, I have been unable to find the setting.
Some other person linked me to settings but I can't for the life of me find out how to get to that window on my own. Do you have to /save a list of URLs to modify your account or am I missing some links or buttons around here?
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That's mean... :(
Your link helped but how do I get there without using that link? How do you navigate to that position without using the link to jump to that spot?
As to foeing me... you don't know me and likely never will... and I don't know you and likely never will... so that really accomplishes nothing.
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I was already making the switch to Lightroom from Aperture. Apple's last update of Aperture really started messing it up, so I saw the writing on the wall, and will fully move my library to Lightroom.
It is a shame, because when I first started using Aperture, it was awesome, about 1/2 the price of Lightroom at the time, and it was lightyears ahead of iPhoto.
With my MacBook Air, I thought I would just use iPhoto, but gah, after not using it for 6 years or so, it still sucks tool.
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I do not do any photo editing so I'm not familiar with this software. After reading the first sentence, my first thought on seeing this was.....here come portal jokes.
Hover over your name, and click on 'Options' that appears in the dropdown.
Or click on "Account" on the user info panel on the right, and poke through the options there. This tends to work better, I find the lightbox interface to be a bit buggy in general.
(your name) > Options > Exclusions. You should see something like this.
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I can get to it through options but as you said that bugs out and I can't actually do anything in there. Nothing to click on or enter.
Under account I don't see anything about exclusions.
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There's a section 'Dynamic Index', but I just noticed that it also opens in the lightbox, which still has no obvious way to actually add a term. ...oh, maybe it's a data loading error. I poked around the tabs in the lightbox for a bit, and then it populated. It seems to be coming up empty otherwise though.
On my desk, I run 10.6.8. I have numerous reasons for sticking with it, not least that it still runs the PPC apps I paid good money for and continue to use, and that it has significantly better USB performance than Mavericks (not sure about 10.7...10.8, but 10.9.3 USB sucks dishrags. I've been running it on the [identical] machine in my radio room, and brother, what a clusterfark. Borken by design, near as I can tell.)
So anyway, being a camera person, I bought Aperture 1 (I had a Canon 50D at the time), then upgraded, paying for version two, then upgraded paying for version 3. Then I bought a Canon 6D. Wonderful camera. So Aperture, yes? No.
Here's what I got for my dollar-driven adventure in Apple "professional" software:
A program that won't read my 6D's images, that's what.
So I moved to Lightroom, a version of which did (a) run under 10.6.8 and (b) does support my camera. Works fine, I'm shooting all the time. Aperture is no longer part of my workflow. Why should it be? It's useless to me because Apple, in a fit of whatever, moved camera support to the OS, and then failed, as per usual, to support the OS versions they already had in the field.
Speaking as an Apple user, and a previous fan of Aperture, Lightroom will do for now, thanks.
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Despite Apple and other corporate plans to move everything and everyone to "The Cloud", the masses are doing quite the opposite, moving everything away from the cloud and hosted resources.
There's already a growing exodus to use personally-controlled storage, cloud and other environments, or heavily encrypted storage platforms to hold their data, making apps that expect "iCloud(tm)" and other in-the-clear, branded solutions from being all but useless.
So as long as these "replacement" versions work primarily, and with full functionality without feature-reduction 100% locally and by default, then they'll be fine. If they require the iCloud/cloud to function, they're going to suffer from diminished adoption.
The same is happening with digital currency v. analog/paper currency, resulting from increased eroding confidence in the system (eg: Target failures, identity theft, and hundreds of other examples in the news, nearly weekly).
If these features aren't being demanded by users (and there's plenty of evidence they're not), then why the big push to store everything you have and own, off-premises?