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SpaceX Wins FAA Permission To Build a Spaceport In Texas

Posted by samzenpus on from the go-ahead-and-build dept.

Jason Koebler writes SpaceX just got approval from the Federal Aviation Administration to build a 56.5-acre spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico on the Texas-Mexico border—a huge step toward actually making the spaceport a reality. Wednesday, the FAA, which handles all commercial space launch permitting in the United States, issued what's known as a "Record of Decision" that suggests the agency would allow the company to launch 10 Falcon 9 rockets and two Falcon Heavy rockets per year out of the spaceport, through at least 2025.

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  1. Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico on the Texas-Mexico border...

    Rockets with Taco Bell sponsorships?

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    1. Re:Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Why didn't I think of that.... penal colony for illegal immigrants involving long term imprisonment and hard labor.

      Instead of returning them home, send them on a one-way trip to mars or the moon.

    2. Re:Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It's nice you vomited the first thing you thought of onto the page, but you won't find anything even vaguely resembling Taco Bell in Mexico. Did you really think that? Sad.

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    3. Re:Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      Spaceport is in Texas, on the Gulf of Mexico.
      Solidly in the U.S.
      Lots of Taco Bells.

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    4. Re:Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Taco Smell is a Yum foods brand. Owned by the Japanese.

      Yum Foods brands are universally the worst in their class. Yum brands: Kentucky Fried Rat, Taco Hell, A&W, Booger King, Pizza Hut and Arby's. Nothing that can be fairly called 'food' served at any of them.

      I used to occasionally eat a taco bell taco. Didn't think it was good, but it was a childhood memory/comfort food in a weird way. Then I fed my dogs a couple of cans of Old Roy brand beef canned dog food and immediately headed for Taco Bell. When I got there I was hit in the face by the smell of Old Roy brand beef canned dog food. Haven't touched it sense.

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    5. Re:Spaceport along the Gulf of Mexico by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Why didn't I think of that.... penal colony for illegal immigrants involving long term imprisonment and hard labor.

      Does a private prison company gaining sentience and posting on Slashdot count as AI, some kind of group mind or just a regular evil overlord?

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  2. better map link by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you can't read the scaled-down map reproduced from the report in the linked blog post, you can either look on p. 54 of the PDF, or else here's the site on OpenStreetMap. It appears it's not just that they're being given permission for the launches, but also that they're being given use of the land: the approved launch site is Texas state-owned land in Boca Chica State Park, which they'll be allowed to construct a facility on, and use for a certain number of days/year.

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    1. Re:better map link by sycodon · · Score: 2

      Now it's just 5 years of environmental studies, lawsuits and billion dollar "mitigation" measures.

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    2. Re:better map link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's Texas. They'll be breaking ground next month.

    3. Re:better map link by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Oh fvck yes.

      Midland (Tx) is awaiting FAA Spaceport approval after shoveling some ED money and incentives at SpaceX...

      There will be no intentional delay. They're on it, doggone it.

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    4. Re:better map link by Loki_1929 · · Score: 1

      It's Texas, they broke ground three weeks ago.

      FAA? Never heard of 'em.

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  3. Re:Say what? by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are required by law to deport illegal aliens to their point of origin.

    Further information on this subject is classified.

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  4. Why a new one? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    Isn't there one near the Mexico border in NM that already exists?

    1. Re:Why a new one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      South Padre Island is much farther south than the Spaceport in NM, which gives a significant velocity boost and thus less fuel to get into orbit. It also means launching over ocean which has less liability concerns than launching over land (even if it's mostly open desert). I don't know of anyone who has any plans to use the Spaceport for orbital launches, just straight up & down sub-orbital flights and testing.

  5. Re:Say what? by krashnburn200 · · Score: 1

    Hilarious, and here my mod points just expired...

  6. turbo-skeet shooting Texas style by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    PULL!

  7. Hope their hull is bulletproof. by retech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Took a job in Brownsville. Left Detroit. Flew down there. In the course of 6 months... The university campus was closed because of a cartel fight that saw bullets crossing the border and hitting classrooms. The daily headcount of dumped bodies (on either side) was greater than Detroit's. Crossed, over to go out to eat. The building across the street had two grenades lobbed into it while we ate. Mind you, this was less than .5 miles from Brownsville.

    The area that they want to build (actually have been building for a while now) is flooded during spring break with high school and university kids. It's cheap, beach, and poorly patrolled. If you work for them, you'll have to live in Brownsville and deal with the beach crap for 6 weeks a year.

    I really cannot think of a less desirable location to build this "space port".

    1. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      The Mexicans involved in the trafficking of illegal narcotics are very careful to tread lightly North of the Rio Grande.

      They can buy Mexico.

      Angering the gueros is bad for business.

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    2. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by retech · · Score: 3, Informative

      Used to. The published numbers just do not show the reality. Between friends and family in B-ville and McAllen and knowing the number of shootings and car bombings they've witnessed, not one of them get's to the news. Hell, at my job down there, (worked for the state) we were told to NOT post any stuff on social media like: "OMG there was a shooting outside the mall today." One morning there was a shootout at the mall, 3 ppl hit. I thought surely this would make the news. Not a word of it anywhere.

    3. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by strack · · Score: 1

      Hey man, if you know of another place in the contiguous United States at the lowest possible latitude with only ocean in the direction you want to launch rockets, and no other launch sites to work your own launch schedule around, let us know.

    4. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Do you REALLY think they just drew the name Brownsville out of a hat? And then decided to locate there? WTF? You're talking about it like it's some kind of voluntary choice. Please tell me you're not that stupid.

      Look at a map of America. Brownsville is at the southern tip. Being as far south as possible as advantageous for putting satellites into orbit. Why do you think Cape Canaveral is located where it is?

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    5. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by Wizel603 · · Score: 1

      I really cannot think of a less desirable location to build this "space port".

      Mos Eisley

    6. Re: Hope their hull is bulletproof. by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      The Maldives. ;)

    7. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Another geek who never actually went to spring break and gets his information from movies.

      Spring break beaches typically have terrible ratios. Sausage fest of drunken frat boys, puking all over themselves.

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    8. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      So you're saying I didn't really miss out on anything by not going South for spring break? Good to know.

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    9. Re:Hope their hull is bulletproof. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Unless you like drinking till you puke all over yourself you didn't miss anything.

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  8. Why only 12 rockets per year? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    That seems completely arbitrary.

    1. Re:Why only 12 rockets per year? by rioki · · Score: 1

      Probably some haphazard environmental impact study. But once SpaceX has the foot in the door and a need to launch more, it probably can be arranged to higher limits. If they can lay pipelines through a Alaskan wildlife preserve, they can launch more rockets from a national park in Texas.

    2. Re:Why only 12 rockets per year? by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      That seems completely arbitrary.

      It'll put a dampener on their July the 4th celebrations - oh sorry March 2nd - it's Texas.

    3. Re:Why only 12 rockets per year? by rioki · · Score: 1

      They are building a spaceport in the middle of a national park! Either it is a nature preserve or it is not one. Although I don't count myself to the environmentalist camp, but I see the ideas behind national parks. But in many cases the environmental impact studies are educated guess at best. The 12 rockets limit seems fairly arbitrary and more along the lines of projected SpaceX use of the facility and less on the environmental impact tolerances.

  9. Re:Please no be racist!!!! by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    People from Maine sure write funny.

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  10. Re:Mexico by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    Borders are binary and there are already treaties/conventions in place regarding airspace.

    For example, Spain would love to close Gebralter's airport. But the rules only let them be a huge pain in the ass.

    In other words, why should we?

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  11. This might start giving them ideas. by Chas · · Score: 1

    Burrito-fueled rockets to get illegals in across the border.

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  12. huh... by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

    Seems kind of small. I would have expected a space port to be high hundreds to thousands of acres to buffer in case there was some disaster... not a measely 57 acres... A lot of high schoolers could run across it diagonally in about two minutes.

    But I don't know much about the requirements for spaceports.

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    1. Re:huh... by Megane · · Score: 1

      Or you could look for it on a map and see that it's surrounded by mostly wildlife areas and state parks and water, not unlike a certain place in Florida. It's not like they're planning to launch from some industrial park on the edge of town.

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  13. Name your spaceport by Trogre · · Score: 4, Funny

    I vote Mos Eisley.

    After all, where else would one find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy, outside of Washington that is...

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  14. Re:Taco Bell Rockets.... by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

    Why not?

    Pizza Hut did it back in 2000.

    http://www.spacedaily.com/images/proton-pizza-bg.jpg

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  15. Re:Mexico by Issarlk · · Score: 1

    Why would the cartels disaprove anyway? They could even abduct a few engineers to develop their own rocket delivery of drugs into the USA.

  16. Re:I can see the movie now... by rioki · · Score: 1

    Now THAT sounds like an awesome movie.

  17. I heared you're opening a spaceport... by 2fuf · · Score: 1

    If you're looking for astronauts just let me know.
    I might consider it.

    1. Re:I heared you're opening a spaceport... by Megane · · Score: 1

      NASA has plenty of already-trained astronauts who don't have much chance of going up, whether or not they've already gone up yet. They're getting hired by the NewSpace companies. It's not like they're looking for H1Bs to be astronauts.

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    2. Re:I heared you're opening a spaceport... by 2fuf · · Score: 1

      here's an astronomical whooooosh for you, sir

  18. Re:"space" port! by Chrisq · · Score: 1

    oh the hubris! Does the rest of the Galaxy know about this? Are they ready?

    They're boycotting it because it doesn't sign up to the Andromeda and District port worker's labor union.

  19. 2 Elon Musk posts in 1 day? by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    Shall we declare a national holiday? Parades?

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  20. Only 56.5 acres? by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    I'd think you'd want a lot more land for a spaceport. Sometimes rocket fall down, go boom.

    (For the more cosmopolitan of us, Washington Square Park is just under ten acres.)

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    1. Re:Only 56.5 acres? by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

      Only 56.5 acres on land, but 395 million acres downrange.

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    2. Re:Only 56.5 acres? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Thing is, the plan is to bring the first stage back in and land it on the launch pad. That makes the 395 million acres less relevant.

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    3. Re:Only 56.5 acres? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Not the launch pad. If launching from Texas they will land the first stage somewhere in the neighborhood of Florida.

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