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Western US States Using Up Ground Water At an Alarming Rate

sciencehabit (1205606) writes A new study shows that ground water in the Colorado basin is being depleted six times faster than surface water. The groundwater losses, which take thousands of years to be recharged naturally, point to the unsustainability of exploding population centers and water-intensive agriculture in the basin, which includes most of Arizona and parts of Colorado, California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Wyoming. Because ground water feeds many of the streams and rivers in the area, more of them will run dry.

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  1. Peak Water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And you thought the wars and environmental harm over oil was bad, we ain't seen nothing yet.

    1. Re:Peak Water by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      US military does periodic defense reviews and the ones i saw back in the late 90's predicted wars over water shortages

    2. Re:Peak Water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, predicted as in considered the possibility of, right?

      No. Predicted as in we already see the wars being fought over the economic conditions arising from a lack of it elsewhere.

      Believe it or not, you can live without Internet, oil, air conditioning or even meat. But if drinking the local well water is gone, or "just" poisons you, you can't survive. You'll kill not for gold or ideology, but for water to drink, or to prevent your kids/wife/etc from dying of thirst. The ironic bit is we will poison the local well water via fracking for gas, so we can have "cheap" oil to fight for farther distant oil fields.

  2. Just more alarmism from waterists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Waterist like to pretend water is crucial for life and plant development. These are all fabrications from hydrologists who wish to keep their grant money.

  3. Cancerous tumor. by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some time ago I remember reading about a proposal to building an aquaduct from the Snake River in Idaho to Southern California. It reminded me of the metaphor that when a cancerous tumor grows unchecked it will commadeer local blood vessels for its own use.

    1. Re:Cancerous tumor. by ShaunC · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your post contains words that are known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm.

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  4. Re:Why I'm on a well in a sustainable aquifer. by TheReaperD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You say that now but, when that well runs dry, you'll be screaming "why didn't the government do something about this!"

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  5. Re:Colorado has California over a barrel by Grey+Geezer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is a proposal to built a freshwater pipeline from Lake Superior. I'd prefer to see growth limited to sustainable levels before they start pumping water out of the Great Lakes...but moneyed interests will probably get their way...they usually do.

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  6. we are experiencing something similar by Espectr0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    in northwestern Venezuela we are having the biggest drought in 60 years. We only have 57 days left of water, and that's including with limited use (1 and a half days of water per week!)

    Our water comes by the way of reservoirs, and we depend heavily on rain. Can't remember the last time it rained and we are getting extremely worried

  7. Re:Why I'm on a well in a sustainable aquifer. by nblender · · Score: 5, Informative

    Until your well collapses one day and you need to get approval to drill a new one and that approval is not forth-coming because there's now a water-coop that you need to join instead; paying them lots of money to run a pipe to your house and charging you per cubic meter...

    Seen it happen; it's coming.

    My well collapsed and fortunately a permit to drill a new one was a rubber stamp and I have a nice clean (albeit very hard) 10gpm well. Hopefully this well will last until I'm too old to care...

  8. And you think it's sustainable why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    All of those 2 acre lots are a tiny spot on the water table map that they lie on. Everyone else is sucking up your water and you don't even know it.

  9. Re:Colorado has California over a barrel by xfizik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pumping out of the Great Lakes would not make Canada happy.

  10. PBS covered this by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the local farmers said "I expect when we run out this next decade, everyone will be very angry over the decisions we made to plant water-intensive crops in a very arid land for so many years".

    It's like Global Warming.

    It's coming for you whether you believe in it or not.

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  11. Lumping everyone together.... by rahvin112 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really hate when they lump everyone together. The fastest draining aquifer is the Ogallala, which is in the middle of the country, not the west. What this article claims is absolutely not true in 99% of the areas included in that list of states. My state, Utah has one of the most highly regulated water systems in probably the world. We have strict regulations on wells and draw rates that are reviewed and approved by state regulators that will halt all pumping if they detect subsidence in the aquifer. The aquifers are almost uniformly carefully monitored to ensure water levels don't drop, and in some areas near the salt lake they monitor to ensure positive pressure into the lake is maintained so salt water isn't sucked back into the fresh water.

    Yes there are bad situations out there, Las Vegas and Phoenix are terribly managed water systems IMO, favoring growth over conservation. We shouldn't have 6 million people living in a desert that can barely naturally support 1/10 that many. And pumping several hundred thousand acre feet of water over a mountain range for Phoenix is a terrible waste of water, not to mention the water lost to evaporation in the process and the power used.

    But this blanket inclusion of all the western states in this indictment is stupid. Those of us with scarce water resources have carefully managed them for the most part. Utah's been managing water use far longer than most states because it's a scarce commodity and always has been. There is a river in Utah where every single drop is used 7 times before discharge into the Salt Lake and the river isn't very long.

    If you want to talk about water misuse, talk about the areas misusing water and stop lumping the rest of us in with them.

  12. Re:Better late than never, Slashdot by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People have been talking about this ever since (and likely before) T Boone Pickens stole the water in western TX.

    Texas has uniquely dumb laws that let you suck up whatever water is underneath your land.

    So if you own a couple acres on the edge of a giant underground reservoir that spans several counties, you are allowed to drain the entire reservoir from your property.

    Texas tried to mitigate this by allowing for local water boards, but they get bullied/sued if they don't allow the resource extraction.
    Read more here: http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/print-view/who-stole-the-water-20140623

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  13. Re:Is California populated by idiots!!! by DudemanX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed. Now let's work on the hard part of your plan which is convincing people not to be against new wind farms and nuclear plants along the coast.

  14. Re:Why I'm on a well in a sustainable aquifer. by nine-times · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I might be misunderstanding, but how does having a well protect you from people depleting the groundwater? If the groundwater is depleted, doesn't your well go dry?

  15. Re:Colorado has California over a barrel by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sad thing is Los Angeles is right there on the ocean......they have plenty of water if they would just purify it instead of stealing it from half of the rest of the country.

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