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Samsung Delays Tizen Phone Launch

New submitter tekxtc (136198) writes Slashdot has reported in the past that a Tizen phone is coming and that the design and photos leaked. But, it has just been announced that the launch of the first Tizen phone has been delayed because of Tizen's small ecosystem. Should it ever ship? Haven't Android and iOS completely cornered the market? Is there any hope for the likes of Tizen, Firefox OS, and Windows on phones and tablets?

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  1. Yes it should ship! by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just because there is a large competitor, you do not quit. Apple didn't and came from behind several times. Now if it is not profitable, let it go, but don't just give up and give it all to App/Goog(le) without a fight. Besides, 1% of a lot of people is still a lot of people.

    1. Re:Yes it should ship! by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Apple didn't come from behind in the smartphone market. They created the market. "

      Well, that's one view into the reality distortion field.

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    2. Re:Yes it should ship! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Really? There were phones with bitmapped displays and capacitive multi-touch screens before iPhone? Please enlighten us.

    3. Re:Yes it should ship! by icebike · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just because there is a large competitor, you do not quit. Apple didn't and came from behind several times. Now if it is not profitable, let it go, but don't just give up and give it all to App/Goog(le) without a fight. Besides, 1% of a lot of people is still a lot of people.

      You've totally been taken in by Samsung.
      Tizen was never meant to ship. Tizen is a threat weapon that Samsung cranks up each time Google thinks of asserting some authority
      over Android. Its simply a boogie man waiting in the wings in case Samsung doesn't get its way. It doesn't have to be viable, or even
      cost effective. All they have to do is trot it out and demonstrate something, ANYTHING once in a while.

      As long as Google plays along, Tizen will never launch.

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  2. Who says there can be only two 'ecosystems' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who says there can be only two 'ecosystems' If that was true Microsoft and Apple would control everything. Then Linus Torvalds proved that 2 ecosystems was not enough and people are still spouting this nonsense.

  3. Re:Well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >>and Windows
    >
    > Yes.

        Hope of what? Of creeping up to 4% of the market, while losing MS millions in the process? MS has deep pockets, but they are not stupid. The only uncertainty is exactly when they will plug the plug.

  4. Samsung could make a big ecosystem fast by ron_ivi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they just unlocked the bootloader on the rest of their phones and encouraged people to download and try Tizen on their formerly-android phones, it could grow the ecosystem fast. Just market it as a "now with no google spyware" phone, and I think many will go for it.

  5. Re:No ! Try not ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never learn how do if never try. Full of shit Yoda is.

  6. Tizen was just a strategic threat by pieterh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Samsung never intended to release a Tizen phone. They were the ones who leaked the design and photos. The whole point of Tizen was to get a stick against Google, after they bought Motorola. Samsung are/were paranoid that Google would give Motorola preferential treatment, and that Android was becoming a toxic platform for them. Tizen was their insurance. Google got the message and Samsung killed most of their Tizen team and went back to focusing on Android.

  7. I sure hope these ship! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am tired of Google's insistence I owning and tracking everything I do, and I would be happy to leave them behind for my own privacy benefit. I have no desire to move to Apple's walled garden either. I want the flexibility to do what I want with my device, and the privacy to know that my personal data and habits are not being tracked for the purposes of trying to sell me more crap I don't want.

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  8. Re:Tizen definition by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or, not... That may work in Germany. I have seen what they call porn...

  9. Re:Windows Phone? by wertigon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because of the Carrier boycott.

    Windows Phone will most probably never see double digit market share. The reason? Skype. Microsoft owns Skype, the single biggest threat to current carrier revenue. The Skype/VOIP revolution will happen, but if you were a carrier, would YOU invest in technology that would kill you off, long-term?

    Tomi Ahonen has a rather complete rant about this topic from late 2012, and very little has changed since then.

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