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Which Is Better, Adblock Or Adblock Plus?

An anonymous reader writes: Wladimir Palant is the creator of the Adblock Plus browser extension, but he often gets asked how it compares to a similar extension for Chrome called Adblock. In the past, he's told people the two extensions achieve largely the same end, but in slightly different ways. However, recent changes to the Adblock project have him worried. "AdBlock covertly moved from an open development model towards hiding changes from its users. Users were neither informed about that decision nor the reasons behind it." He goes through the changelog and highlights some updates that call into question the integrity of Adblock. For example, from an update on June 6th: "Calling home functionality has been extended. It now sends user's locale in addition to the unique user ID, AdBlock version, operating system and whether Google Search ads are being allowed. Also, AdBlock will tell getadblock.com (or any other website if asked nicely) whether AdBlock has just been installed or has been used for a while — again, in addition to the unique user ID." Of course, Palant has skin in this game, and Adblock Plus has dealt with fallout from their "acceptable ads policy," but at least it's still developed in the open.

436 comments

  1. None of them. by Badooleoo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Adblock Edge

    1. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in nearly a decade.

    2. Re:None of them. by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Adblock Edge is Adblock Plus without the checkbox on the first page of options menu to enable/disable acceptable ads.

      It's literally the exactly same thing in all other aspects of it.

    3. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This, I switched to Edge few days after they added the checkbox.

    4. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      edge sounds cooler. someone needs to make an "Adblock Edge: Bismuth Edition" with every blacklist enabled.

    5. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed on Adblock Edge.
      Screw your acceptable ads, there's no such thing as an acceptable ad.

    6. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I support Wladimir! He's proven himself in my eyes. I don't enable advertising for him but I support him.

    7. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It won't be long until refusing requests from your type of use case becomes a mainstream thing.

      Enjoy it while it lasts.

    8. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which is pretty retarded because you could have just unchecked the box instead.

    9. Re:None of them. by thieh · · Score: 1

      C'mon, nobody block stuff manually these days now? Saves the trouble of auditing the code and whatnot.

    10. Re:None of them. by mythosaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but entitlement!

    11. Re:None of them. by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      How is it entitlement to use a different extension? Does that word have any meaning whatsoever anymore, or does it just mean, "Anyone who criticizes anything, decides not to buy something, or doesn't support the violation of people's rights."? I've seen it used in a number of odd ways.

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    12. Re:None of them. by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      That will do little other than save people time. You'll instantly know which sites are absolute garbage.

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    13. Re:None of them. by RJFerret · · Score: 2, Informative

      Adblocking Hosts file, doesn't matter which browser, even blocks MMO in-game store.
      http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho...

    14. Re:None of them. by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Adblock Edge

      Fuck Everything. We're doing five blades.

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    15. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Entitlement = communism = liberalism = atheism = fascism. All these words just mean "bad."

    16. Re:None of them. by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      The nice thing with hosts blocking is that it works across desktops and mobile. You can even do it with custom firmware.

      http://superuser.com/questions...

    17. Re:None of them. by Badooleoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even better is to redirect hosts on the router so it applies to the whole network.

      New clients on the network (such as friends and family when they come over) would be covered too.

    18. Re:None of them. by ShaunC · · Score: 1

      Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice...

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    19. Re:None of them. by Arker · · Score: 2

      "Screw your acceptable ads, there's no such thing as an acceptable ad."

      You are entitled to your point of view. I personally do not agree.

      I like to expose myself to advertising. By seeing what is currently being pushed I know which products to avoid, which is a big time-saver. And the notion that some small payment comes to a website as a result of giving me this information is 100% ok with me.

      Yet I almost never see ads. Why? Because I refuse to allow random servers all over the net a free hand to run programs on my computer. And ad companies apparently have some sort of problem with using the web, the only thing they know how to do is javascript, java, and flash.

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    20. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You'll see browser extensions which defeat the anti-adblock scripts while also ensuring that ads are not being shown to the user.

      If your business model is to show me advertisements, please go get killed in some type of accident.

    21. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You might want to pay attention to those ads for those new variable-width fonts that make free-flowing text much easier to read.

    22. Re: None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah...first off, a word of advice. If "this" is the best way you have of expressing an idea, you belong on reddit with the rest of the douchebags who think saying "this" is still fashionable. It smacks of a human being so utterly inept at expressing their own thoughts that it's depressing to witness. "Very true," "I agree," there's PLENTY of ways to expressing that sentiment better than the verbal equivalent of clicking "like" on Facebook.

      The best part is knowing that some fedora-wearing misogynistic twat from reddit, the official rectal prolapse of the Internet, will probably stop by to post "this" as a reply, patting himself on the back for such rapier wit while having simultaneously proven my tucking point for me.

      There's never been a hive-mind in more desperate need of a healthy dose of pesticides. Then again, judging by your limited vocabulary, I wouldn't be surprised if you were raised on a diet of the shit.

    23. Re:None of them. by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      No need to wait for that

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...

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    24. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are ZERO reasons for using Chrome despite your insistence that there is.

    25. Re: None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    26. Re:None of them. by weilawei · · Score: 1

      Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse! Betelgeuse!

    27. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. I haven't seen an ad on the Internet in nearly a decade.

      Grandpa, are you on my tablet again?
      If you get it all sticky again I'll tell Mom and you'll go back to the home!

    28. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are ZERO reasons for using Chrome despite your insistence that there is.

      True, but that's still more reasons than there are to use Firefox.

    29. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I support Wladimir!

      Not in any substantial or meaningful way, in fact, I don't even want him to know I support him so I'll A/C this post.
      FTFY

    30. Re:None of them. by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      Wait, did you mean "butt entitlement"?
      That's a concept I can get behind!
      "Butt adjacent" is OK too...
      'cause slips happen...

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    31. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you don't even need custom firmware to do it on android, you just need root access. Handily, most phones these days have one-click solutions to root the phone so its just a matter of downloading the right app and running it.

    32. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better is to redirect hosts on a VPS. That way new clients can be protected at multiple sites... they just use my VPS as their primary DNS on their router. Hell, it even covers smartphones while they're using mobile data.

      AC because of... him. Being stalked by apk isn't on my bucket list, you know?

    33. Re: None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said! Although I always simply skip any comment that begins with the sentence "This" and take it as a sort of twat identifier. Perhaps someone could write an add-on to do this automatically.

    34. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And there are plenty of reasons why Adblock Plus (or Edge) is impossible to make on Chrome. One of those is that Chrome only allows hiding of objects after they have been downloaded. It is impossible to block ads on Chrome, only to hide them.

    35. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the fact that Chrome has an up to date implementation of Flash that continues to get security updates... And don't tell me I don't need flash, you'll be just moving the goalposts with your argument.

    36. Re:None of them. by ThePhilips · · Score: 1

      How about the fact that Chrome has an up to date implementation of Flash that continues to get security updates... And don't tell me I don't need flash, you'll be just moving the goalposts with your argument.

      That is somewhat ironic, since I find video quality of Google's own YouTube to be the worst with the Google's own Chrome. Either way - HTML5 or Flash - in Chrome sometimes HD videos are shown highly pixelated. Works fine - everyt time - in Fx and IE.

      Anyway, FlashBlock (which can also be simulated with the AdBlock), side-steps most of the Flash-related security problems.

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    37. Re: None of them. by UmarOMC · · Score: 0

      I'll check that one out

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    38. Re:None of them. by satuon · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of SRWare Iron then, where the author admitted that he had changed some random strings to hide how little difference there really was (just some different defaults), and that he had went to forums to build hype about how Big Brother is watching you through Chrome (which amounted to the address bar suggestions).

    39. Re: None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This.

    40. Re:None of them. by Stuarticus · · Score: 1

      Obviously not or he'd be seeing adverts.

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    41. Re:None of them. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The problem with the hosts file method is that it requires a complete blacklist of all advertising related sites. Sites that are not listed, or adverts hosted on the same domain as the legitimate web site being visited don't get blocked. AdBlock uses pattern matching rules that solve this problem.

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    42. Re:None of them. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      The downside to it, though, is that it doesn't extend to guests access your network.

      It's a pretty simple perl script to translate the MVP list into a bind zone file, though. I do it once per week in a cron job on the local DNS. At least then, my sister-in-law whipping out her iPad after dinner doesn't give these scumbags a foothold in.

    43. Re:None of them. by 0111+1110 · · Score: 0

      The same thing except that it actually blocks ads by default. Even the ones from companies who have paid off the Vladimir The Whore to be whitelisted. How can he be trusted now? I wouldn't trust him.

      With every release he will probably try to sneak something in that will allow certain ads to be displayed. Like uTorrent, I think Adblock Plus needs to be viewed as adware now. The developer is motivated by advertising money. He will find ways to sneak in the ads over time. It's always the same story in these cases.

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    44. Re:None of them. by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      Which is pretty retarded because you could have just unchecked the box instead.

      Right. Until it autoupdates in a week and re-checks the box (for your convenience) and moves the option back to about:config or takes it away entirely. When a dev cannot be trusted he cannot be trusted. And Vlad definitely cannot be trusted.

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    45. Re:None of them. by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      No.
      Last time I looked (by diffing the source code) AdBlock Edge was the same as AdBlock Plus without the "acceptable ads" checkbox. And when I look at the commits, almost all of them are backports from AdBlock Plus, no original development.
      Basically, what you get with AdBlock Edge is an outdated version of AdBlock Plus with less choice. Nothing wrong with forking ABP but at least do it for something useful.

      And it's not like ABP tries to trick you. The "acceptable ads" option is clearly visible when you install the addon. If you know about ABE, you know about this option, so what the point ?

    46. Re:None of them. by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You'll have to explain in great detail why he, who made his white listing process extremely transparent and even allowed users to vote on it, he who kept his add-on fully open source and under permissive license that allows you to fork it. And he who unlike those who forked it, actually continues to work on developing the add-on, while allowing you to completely turn off all of monetization functions with a single check box on first page of options is somehow "can't be trusted now". If you are this paranoid, then how could you trust him in the past? Surely you had no way of knowing back then what his monetization scheme was, and it was far more likely to be something really insidious rather than benign "just uncheck this box once and you're good" that it is today.

      So tell me. Why should I not trust him. Be specific, and try no to sink into the old "but turned the monetization options on by default when he implemented them (and I won't tell you that he actually warned you about it upon installation because that goes against the message I'm trying to deliver), that makes him completely untrustworthy" hyperbole. You'll also have to tell me who offers an alternative that is actually developing the add on. Whoever forked Adblock Edge is certainly not that person. It's still stuck in previous version of Adblock Plus apparently, because whoever forked it couldn't even be bothered to update his fork by copy pasting code from new version.

    47. Re:None of them. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      I'll point at moderation numbers, at least five people apparently do give a fuck what I think.

      Ball is in your court now. Who gives a fuck about your hyperbole?

    48. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hosts files work to a point. However they are trivial to get around.

      *.xyz.com does not work. xyz.com does not block abc.xyz.com. The host file lookup has 0 concept of the name system.

      The hosts file is a simple name value pair system with a linear lookup. If you want it to be effective you need to use something like bind.

      If you are really paranoid about adblock you can use something like your own rolled pac file http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/. That particular implementation suffers from the same defect hosts files does with a linear lookup. However you can customize it just like adblock. I made it log(n) lookup at one point the author was not very interested. I think it is still buried in their forums as I long ago gave up and just used adblock.

      I used that particular hosts file as an input to create my pac file.

      You get about 80% the way there with a hosts file. However the memory and host name lookup cost is non-trivial with that size of a file. You will double and in some cases triple your web page surfing time.

      It is also very poor with 'grey' sites. Where they make it look like the data is coming from their own site. But they have a clue about DNS and http redirect and just redirect it to a real ad server. The only way to snag those is to inspect the whole URL.

    49. Re:None of them. by Zanadou · · Score: 1

      The right app you're looking for is AdAway, but you won't find it on Google Play, for damn obvious reasons.

    50. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did this post get modded +5 Insightful?

      made his white listing process extremely transparent and even allowed users to vote on it

      Bullshit. Until late 2013, end users had ZERO official information, other than the whitelist URL and a vague hints. Two years of practical silence. Perhaps a good strategy, actually.

      allowing you to completely turn off all of monetization functions with a single check box

      That opt-out checkbox was still buggy when Edge was released nine months later. There were several versions of Plus where the checkbox literally did nothing.

      kept his add-on fully open source and under permissive license that allows you to fork it

      He does not have the authority to move to a non-free license himself. And really, there would be no point except to cause another, potentially more damaging scandal.

      continues to work on developing the add-on

      Doing, what, exactly? Adblocking itself is a fairly trivial concept; most of the work is keeping up with browser compatibility. Take a look at the change log. The only new features added since the fork are URL typo correction and "emergency alerts". Two completely inappropriate features that have no business being in an adblocker. Everything else has been UI tweaking and bug fixes. And guess what...

      unlike those who forked it

      You'll also have to tell me who offers an alternative that is actually developing the add on. Whoever forked Adblock Edge is certainly not that person. It's still stuck in previous version of Adblock Plus apparently, because whoever forked it couldn't even be bothered to update his fork by copy pasting code from new version.

      ... Adblock Edge is still up to date. There are commits from TODAY, in fact. Edge does not synchronize version numbers with Plus. That would be retarded.

      If you are this paranoid, then how could you trust him in the past? Surely you had no way of knowing back then what his monetization scheme was

      Not sure of the exact point you're trying to make. The code is open and can be reviewed in minutes. It isn't about "trust", it's about whether you want to support him in his endeavor to insert himself between you and advertisers. Personally, I think his strategy is a lose-lose proposition for both consumers and advertisers. That is, the only beneficiary is going to be his company.

      So tell me. Why should I not trust him. Be specific, and try no to sink into the old "but turned the monetization options on by default when he implemented them (and I won't tell you that he actually warned you about it upon installation because that goes against the message I'm trying to deliver), that makes him completely untrustworthy" hyperbole.

      Straw man, red herring, poisoning the well, whatever. You're still committing a fallacy, trying to circumvent an actual argument.

      A lot of people had perfectly valid, negative initial reactions to this feature being made opt-out instead of opt-in. It is a legitimate ethical complaint. Studies show that *most* users *never* change the default settings. Setting the default behavior to circumvent the advertised purpose of the product is dirty before you even factor in monetization. But let's do that anyway. You really don't see anything wrong with the dominant adblocking provider having a sponsored whitelist enabled by default for tens of millions of people? Draw the parallels to malware and physical security.

      What pushed me enough to bother switching to an alternative, though, was Wladimir's own arrogance. From my brief time on the AdBlock Plus forums, it became clear that he had no respect for us. Why should he? We are now the product, not the end users. It's a cliche because it's so depressingly common.

      The latest major

    51. Re:None of them. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      I suspect the answer to your first question is because people recognise lunacy spewed by your kind of lunatics as just that. Lunacy.

      Between epic bouts of paranoia, complaints about a bug that impacted essentially no one (at least that I know of, and I maintain quite a few computers of all which have adblock isntalled on anything ranging from older versions of Firefox to this machine I'm typing on that has it on Pale Moon). No bugs.

      You even attribute easylist problems to adblock. Easylist is a blocklist maintained by folks behind easylist. If you don't like it, adblock offers a huge variety of lists for you to subscribe to.

      I genuinely can't be bothered to argue about this further. I bared a few weeks of watching the lunacy of hardcore "I must have no ads anywhere ever, and even asking me to check the checkbox is too much to ask" crowd explode in the wildest bouts of schizophrenia about the "Darth Vader behind ad block plus" (real quote that I remember to this day that made me finally stop believing that I'd hear any real arguments from that crowd).

      And before the obvious "oh you're just shilling". Full disclosure: I have zero interest of investment of any kind in ad block plus other than to make sure that it blocks all ads for me properly. So far it has done so marvellously. And I'm really tired of constant whining by hard-core lunatics that appear hell bent to make ad block plus dev into some kind of evil entity just because he added a way to monetize the add on without infringing on my ad blocking in any way.

      I do the same thing for lunatics whining the same thing about ghostery. "Oh noes, he sold out". Yeah, first page in options, first option. Shut the fuck up and untick the damn box. Thank you.

    52. Re:None of them. by hacker · · Score: 1

      I use this on my Android device with AdAway with tremendous success. I also use Android Firewall with some custom rules to block annoying apps from trying to send my data through servers in China, Romania, etc.

      Here's my AdAway custom lists:

      http://adaway.org/hosts.txt
        http://hosts-file.net/ad_serve...
        http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/...
        http://someonewhocares.org/hos...
        http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho...

      Use these, and you'll have a nice, clean, tight setup. I also use Squid on my LAN, and my router is configured to send every packet through Squid (custom iptables rules on the router; a Buffalo Wireless running dd-wrt), and on the Squid side, I block about 12,000 separate ad URLs, domains and sites, so again, the experience for anyone on my segment, is nice and clean and fast.

      The side benefit of Squid, is that I can see every single request, phone home, ping, malicious or otherwise, that my devices try to do, and I can permit, prohibit, redirect or block entirely based on schedule, as I wish.

      You'd be surprised how chatty a standard iPhone and Android device are, without "training" on the Squid/AdAway side.

    53. Re:None of them. by nashv · · Score: 1

      Please don't talk out of your ass AC. Adblock variants are derived from the original Adblock source code. It is perfectly possible to have a Chrome version of the extension with the same underlying code but different packaging and UI elements for Chrome. In fact, I have found my replacement.

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    54. Re:None of them. by nashv · · Score: 1

      I for one would say, the unparalleled sync, multi-core usage binary, sandboxing, lack of Australis(hit), non-clunky interface, official 64-builds that actually have better performance etc. are good arguments. I don't mind using Firefox on my most powerful machine - but it is a major pain on mobile and ULV processor ultrabooks (especially those that depend on multiple cores rather than speed per core).

      For a seamless experience across all my machines Chrome is still the best browser out there.

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    55. Re:None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Illogical ad hominem attacks on your part = you failed badly and are "panicking" resorting to the only things you know how to do, which is fail.

    56. Re:None of them. by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      I'm positively covered in sweat. Truly a panic attack.

      No wait, it's this damn heatwave that's been here for weeks. I couldn't care less about the issue itself. It's the that I'm tired of unstoppable whining of your types about adblock and ghostery.

  2. I use both by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

    If my customer has Firefox installed, I use Adblock Plus with it. That is also what I have on my own systems.

    If they have Chrome instead, I use Adblock. I don't use Chrome, because I don't like its style, but several customers prefer it.

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    1. Re:I use both by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      Didn't Adblock only arise due to delays in getting Adblock Plus ported to Chrome? I don't see Adblock in Mozilla's addon offerings.

      I used Adblock with Chrome until ABP became available and then I switched. Perhaps there was enough time lag and/or confusion for Adblock to remain popular on Chrome.

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    2. Re:I use both by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      When I first researched it a little while ago, I think that Adblock was the original version of the addon, made for Chrome. Then Adblock Plus was made by a separate group, as a port to Firefox. Since I use Firefox as my main browser, that is what I am used to seeing.

      I could be wrong, and don't care to google it right now. But I consider it that I use the one for each browser that was the original one for that browser. If nothing else, it gives both programs encouragement.

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    3. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Adblock Plus on Chrome AND on Firefox. I leave IE bare in case I want to look at something "bare" for some reason.

    4. Re: I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I doubt a clown who is too lazy to even open up a new browser tab has anything valuable to contribute to "research." You admitted yourself that you couldn't be arsed to even Google it and yet you seem to want to portray yourself as being well informed on the subject. Big hint; it didn't fucking work.

    5. Re:I use both by ZipK · · Score: 1

      I use Adblock Plus on Chrome AND on Firefox. I leave IE bare in case I want to look at something "bare" for some reason.

      Why not use an incognito window in Chrome for your "bare" viewing? The incognito mode automatically disables all of your extensions.

    6. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Adblock Plus on Chrome AND on Firefox. I leave IE bare in case I want to look at something "bare" for some reason.

      Why not use an incognito window in Chrome for your "bare" viewing? The incognito mode automatically disables all of your extensions.

      I leave Adblock enabled in incognito, I clicked the checkbox to allow it. Your comment only applies to the default configuration of Chrome.

      That said, going to a site with IE bare seems roughly as safe as barebacking a Thai hooker. I use Opera 12 privacy mode for bare viewing.

    7. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint: "Adblock" existed long before Chrome was even a thing. The first version of Adblock was released in 2005 or 2006 if I'm not mistaken, while Chrome didn't come about until 2008. A little while later Adblock Plus was released, which was basically Adblock with whitelisting, improved filtering subscription and the ability to hide HTML elements.

    8. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've seen adblock sux compared to hosts files http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    9. Re:I use both by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 1

      AdBlock+ is available for Chrome as well. Why not use the same product everywhere?

    10. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wrong. What came first was an entirely different add-on for Firefox, also called Adblock. It didn't have filters; you had to block everything manually. Then Adblock Plus came out which added the filtering capability. This was all before Chrome even existed. So Adblock Plus came first (ignoring the original Adblock which is abandoned I think) by a lot.

      Then when Chrome came out someone made an add-on called Adblock for it. At the time it was vastly inferior to Adblock Plus, because Chrome is intentionally built to be less extensible than Firefox. It couldn't actually block ads from loading, it just loaded them and then hid them. Dunno if it's better now.

    11. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've seen, hosts files are primarily promoted by APK trolling slashdot. Like you are right now.

      Besides, I use adblock plus as well as hosts files loaded into my router's DNS. I won't be loading apk's closed-source crap when I can roll my own with a few simple scripts.

    12. Re:I use both by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You use others' tools yet call someone who created something that works crap and not a single one of you proved his points wrong or found bugs in his work? Give us a break. No one's proven apk incorrect on his posts and points on hosts. Only minusmods of his posts. That's weak.

  3. Adguard Adblocker on Chrome by Kevoco · · Score: 1

    Works for me - I gave up on the other two

    1. Re:Adguard Adblocker on Chrome by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

      Same.

  4. Neither by NIK282000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the ads on a site are so obstructive or malicious that you want to block them then stop using that site. Blocking ads only encourages site operators to use more aggressive ad serving tactics and resorting to that kind of subsidized assault on the user is usually an indicator that the site doesn't have anything useful on it in the first place.

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    1. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the site is that awful I would rather do everyone a favor and have them bury themselves by escalating their ads until nobody uses the site.

    2. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! The end result is that such websites will go away anyway once enough users employ adblockers to cut off their revenue stream. It's just all "gimme gimme gimme" from the end users.

    3. Re:Neither by Lendrick · · Score: 1

      I very rarely run into ads that are aggressive enough to get through AdBlock.

    4. Re:Neither by martin-boundary · · Score: 0, Troll
      Such sites SHOULD go away. Here's a hint for website operators: Either give your stuff away for free no strings attached (we do it all the time with open source software - which is way more complex to do than a website), or hide your content using a membership. Ads are pollution, and have zero value.

      I, and many other people, don't appreciate the implicit bait and switch where we are being lured into accessing a "free" website, but oh wait you now have to look at ads and we'll track what you do etc. It's dishonest.

      If you're going to make free content available to all, then make it truly free. No ads. You'll have lots of people interested in seeing it. It's also fine to have a profit motive, nobody's forcing you to give stuff away if you don't want to, but if that's what you want to do, don't pretend it's free. Except you'll have fewer page views.

      Some website operators are greedy, they want the "free" page views and they want the income at the same time. That's evil. Luckily there are plenty of people like me, who have well paying day jobs, and have no problem whatsoever to give away free software to help ordinary people deal with and filter that shit out.

    5. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ads are pollution, and have zero value.

      Ads are also a potential attack venue for hidden drive by infections, block the ads and you also block that malware risk.

    6. Re:Neither by rahvin112 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The world is not binary. What you want and what everyone else will accept are different. Plenty of people in this world are happy to have ads if it means no money out of their own pocket.

      Your entitled to your opinion but that doesn't mean your not an idiot.

    7. Re: Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just silly. How about I put a site behind a "paywall" that says I serve annoying ads. Then how about I make the paywall free with no registration. Then how about I make the paywall invisible and expect you to just go away if you don't like the way I've set up my paywall on my site.

    8. Re:Neither by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Ads are pollution, and have zero value.

      here's what websites / apps, whatever will do: WHATEVER MAKES THEM THE MOST MONEY. they've learned that almost no one will pay then $X a month to access, but almost everyone is happy with having a few ads in the sidebar and accessing for "free".

      like it or not, that's what consumers want.

      Some website operators are greedy, they want the "free" page views and they want the income at the same time. That's evil. Luckily there are plenty of people like me, who have well paying day jobs, and have no problem whatsoever to give away free software to help ordinary people deal with and filter that shit out.

      wanting to get paid for a service you provide is not evil. i assume you provide a service for your day job that you already admitted you get paid for? so you are you evil? no, it's just that you decided the work you do is worth getting paid for. well, great, bully for you then huh?

      please.

    9. Re:Neither by pkinetics · · Score: 1

      At some point open source code needs revenue. Otherwise things like Heartbleed happen and then everyone complains that the biggest users of the open source aren't contributing back to the program to support it.

      I'd rather have a couple of ads than have to remember to pay an annual fee to /., xda, and a bazillion other sites I visit.

    10. Re:Neither by martin-boundary · · Score: 1
      Yup, even open source projects can do with donations, and I have no problem with that. But a donation is a voluntary thing. It's not an entitlement. And if an open source project is incapable of surviving periods of time solely on a purely voluntary donation system, then the project and its goals should be rethought.

      It's no different when a company finds that the market doesn't support all the things it wants to do. Companies with cashflow problems need to make hard decisions. Open source projects with cashflow problems need to choose what they provide too. The difference is that a for-profit company cannot offer _any_ services without an income, while an open source project can, through the pro-bono work by the members of the project.

    11. Re:Neither by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      like it or not, that's what consumers want.

      If that was true, then ad blocking tools would not be very popular. They are, so this isn't true.

      wanting to get paid for a service you provide is not evil. i assume you provide a service for your day job that you already admitted you get paid for? so you are you evil? no, it's just that you decided the work you do is worth getting paid for. well, great, bully for you then huh?

      Actually, I only get paid because I signed a contract to provide my services in return for payment. The contract represents a mutually beneficial prior agreement.

      If I went to a random shop on a saturday morning, and started washing their windows, and then I went inside and demanded to be paid - because I feel that it's fair to be paid for a service I give - I'd be laughed out of the shop. The windows didn't need washing, and I was blocking the customers. And rightly so, because there really should have been a prior agreement in place. Even as simple as entering the shop, and _asking_ if I can wash the windows in return for money.

      I don't have an agreement with any website to view their ads. As such, if the operators come to me and demand I look at their ads, I will laugh in their face, and continue to use an ad blocker.

      Agreements matter, otherwise one side is deluding themselves. The world doesn't operate on wishful thinking.

    12. Re: Neither by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      That's just silly. How about I put a site behind a "paywall" that says I serve annoying ads.

      Yup, that's fine.

      Then how about I make the paywall free with no registration.

      That would be stupid, as it makes it trivial to traverse it. But you are free to do as you please.

      Then how about I make the paywall invisible and expect you to just go away if you don't like the way I've set up my paywall on my site.

      That would be wishful thinking. Whereas in your imagination, you see a paywall, in actual fact there isn't one. You are free to imagine anything you like, and I am free to only use cold hard facts in my decision processes. I see that there is no paywall, so I will step over "it" anytime I please. There, that's how the world works.

    13. Re:Neither by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Not my concern what they do. They don't have a right to run their bullshit javascript on my computer.

    14. Re:Neither by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      They have to pay the bills somehow. That means they need money (which they have to get from ads since they give the stuff for free)

      If ads are not too intrusive, and related to the website, by all means go for it.

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    15. Re:Neither by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Well, idiots tend to argue with fallacies like argument from popularity as you've done here. Like you said, though, the world is not binary. People don't have to accept ads if they dont' want to look at them but still want to view sites because there is software out there that allows this. The internet is not cable tv, thankfully.

    16. Re:Neither by Morgon · · Score: 2

      Ah, except you forgot the important part that completely breaks down your argument:
      The 'random shop' in your case didn't ask you to wash their windows. You provided an unrequested service.

      When you visit someone else's website, you are requesting their content. You're not minding your own business on Slashdot while CNET is pushing their newest reviews on you. You generally have to actually go to their site to see them.

      I see you tried to mitigate the fallacy with your last bit, but it falls flat: When you visit a website, you are still requesting their services - their bandwidth, their resources, and everything that comes along with it. I agree there are right ways and wrong ways to do advertising, but just as you said: "The world doesn't operate on wishful thinking." It (for better or worse) generally operates on money. Advertising does that without requiring a direct cost from you.

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    17. Re: Neither by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      Now, that's not true. They call them squeegee kids back home, they stand in intersections washing windows and guilt tripping people into payment... they make a hundred dollars an hour, easy.

      You don't have to be a productive member of society if you're manipulative. Well, unless everyone else is the same as you...

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    18. Re:Neither by penix1 · · Score: 1

      Advertising does that without requiring a direct cost from you.

      I see this argument a lot and it just doesn't hold water. There is a direct cost to the end user in wasted bandwidth if nothing else. Then there is the social cost of being tracked and worse, drive-by infections.

      Besides, I never did see how showing an ad that is never followed through (meaning the product being hawked was sold because of the ad) can be profitable. Which is why I think the advertising based business model is extremely flawed.

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    19. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you also bitch that your computer has to parse their bullshit html for them? Ironic considering you are using a site that needs javascript enabled to work properly. Why don't you go to soylentnews with their javascript free web 1.0 interface.

    20. Re:Neither by Rhaban · · Score: 1

      Same here. I don’t really care about what blocking ads encourage site operators to do, but if a website have too many ads or too intrusive ones, I just stop using it.

      Same reason I refuse to play games with intrusive drms, instead of pirating it. If a company doesn’t respect me as their customer, I am no longer their customer.

    21. Re:Neither by N1AK · · Score: 1

      If that was true, then ad blocking tools would not be very popular. They are, so this isn't true.

      That's a pretty big logical fail. Firstly he said 'almost everyone' is happy and installation figures for adblock software back that up. Secondly, he is making the point that most people prefer free sites with ads over pay sites, which again is pretty obvious given the lack of pay sites for most content. The fact that a small subset of people are willing to ignore the wishes of the people producing the content they consume by blocking their revenue mechanic just shows that self-entitlement is alive and well.

    22. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and if you agree that bandwidth is so precious, then surely you wouldn't argue that the website would need some way to recoup its costs of giving it to you?

    23. Re:Neither by Morgon · · Score: 1

      Besides, I never did see how showing an ad that is never followed through (meaning the product being hawked was sold because of the ad) can be profitable. Which is why I think the advertising based business model is extremely flawed.

      Because companies pay to just have their message heard/seen. It's called CPM (Cost per thousand (Roman Numeral M) [impressions]), and it's alive and well.

      Whether those companies continue to advertise with you if they have zero click-through is another discussion entirely, but those rates for campaigns on relevant topics do okay. You don't understand it because you're not thinking like an advertiser... that's okay, but don't damn the entire model just because you don't. Just understand that many websites that you enjoy pay their costs from advertising revenue.

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    24. Re:Neither by EvilJoker · · Score: 1

      Generally, they work by brand recognition. Same as ads on TV, etc. When they show you an ad for (e.g.) a Ford truck, you aren't supposed to go out and buy one right away. It's supposed to linger in the back of your mind, so that when you do go shopping for a truck, you're inclined towards buying a Ford.

      As the old saying goes, "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." -John Wanamaker

    25. Re:Neither by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I go to a website and request their content, and they offer me ads along with it. I refuse the ads and they serve up the content anyway.

    26. Re:Neither by martin-boundary · · Score: 1
      I see you don't understand how the network works. I pay for all the bandwidth I use (and some I don't use), through an agreement with my ISP. There are peering arrangements in place, but the bandwith that some website uses to serve me content is their own problem. If they're smart, they do like Google does and compress the hell out of what they serve, and work out deals with their providers etc. Moreover, the ads often originate from another network location, so the website I visit doesn't technically serve them to me. When that happens, we are talking about a menage a trois, disguised as an ordinary one on one relationship between me, the web surfer, and the website operator. You're right that I request content from the website. You're wrong about not making a distinction which content I request. I in fact request the parts I value, and do not request the ads.

      The point is that I am not taking or using anyone's bandwidth but my own, that I expect websites to do the same, and that advertisers are uninvited interlopers in a private relationship. That's what peering is all about. FIgure out how to phrase your objections within that framework and maybe I'll believe some of your arguments.

    27. Re:Neither by Morgon · · Score: 2

      I see you don't understand how the network works

      The point is that I am not taking or using anyone's bandwidth but my own, that I expect websites to do the same, and that advertisers are uninvited interlopers in a private relationship. That's what peering is all about. FIgure out how to phrase your objections within that framework and maybe I'll believe some of your arguments.

      What world do you live in? It's extremely obvious that YOU don't know how networking (or the real world) works. Networking is a two-way street.

      At nearly ANY provider (above a dime-a-dozen personal blog host), a customer absolutely pays for bandwidth usage. Sometimes they give you a little for "free" - but it's still metered, and you're still paying for some sort of account. And of course, any usage beyond that has a cost. And on some hosts, if you have separate web and db servers (which is needed for heavy data/traffic), they meter that bandwidth, too (terrible host? Yes. But the point is that it happens).

      I ran a website for 6 years that ended up with a peak of 5 million users. I co-lo'd my (eleven) servers: that's physical rack space (i.e. 'rent'), that's power, and that's bandwidth (not internal, but external. To the tune of hundreds of GB/day, even with 'optimized' assets and HTML). You can try to pick apart the explanation to spin some self-serving argument, but the inarguable bottom line is that these amounted to real costs - upwards of $1000/month at general cost, and that's not even including buying the physical machines. You're telling me I should have to pay out of my own pocket, out of the kindness of my heart, just because I built something that other used and enjoyed? I was unemployed for the first year I had built the site. It would have never gone anywhere at all without advertising.

      I think you're oversimplifying your stance based on some assumption that the only non-commercial websites in the world are some kid talking about his cats or making political rants. There are tons of interactive, entertaining, and/or heavily data-driven websites that cater to, and are useful for, some subset of people - ones not selling anything, and not backed by corporate funding. Advertising is literally THE ONLY avenue for some - possibly 'many'; maybe even 'most' - of them. They do deserve to exist. That's what the internet is about.

      If you want to go back to the 'good ol days' where every non-corporate website was a home directory on a university server, that's fine - Lynx is still around, and you won't have to deal with any advertising at all.

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  5. Chrome? by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real question is: If you value privacy and dislike ads, why would you ever use Chrome?

    The entire goal of that browser is counter to user Privacy and choice. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, if you don't care about that stuff then I'd same Chrome is probably the best browser out there. But I do value those things, and in fact they are probably my #1 consideration when choosing a browser so I use Firefox despite its many faults.

    1. Re:Chrome? by asmkm22 · · Score: 4, Informative

      uTorrent IS malware these days. Try installing it without unchecking all the extra crap that gets bundled with it, then come back here and tell me why it shouldn't be flagged.

    2. Re:Chrome? by linuxguy · · Score: 2

      Chrome is my primary browser. Why shouldn't people be using Chrome if they value their privacy? Can you provide some concrete reasons, other than "Google is evil"? Some of us need evidence and not accusations.

    3. Re:Chrome? by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      I agree with the other poster. uTorrent is malware. In the instance you cited, Google actually was doing the right thing and protecting your ignorant ass.

    4. Re:Chrome? by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      I agree. As soon as Chrome lists the standard Java updater as malware too, I will believe this point as an argument against my point.

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    5. Re:Chrome? by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      I am ignorant about many things. My ass is ignorant to just about everything. However, my response to the other poster needs an answer. You may still be ignorant to that response's contents, but you can remedy that by reading it. Your ass, however, will remain ignorant, as mine does.

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    6. Re:Chrome? by Forbo · · Score: 1

      Some people like Chromium, the open source version of Chrome. The only reason I stick with that rather than Firefox is that I much prefer the interface for Chromium's ScriptSafe over Firefox's NoScript.

    7. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      So I switched to Chrome. After all, Google knows what I search for anyway

      Stop using Google, then?

      Privacy? I'll take consistency first.

      How very principled of you. The world needs more people like you, since we clearly didn't have enough unthinking, unprincipled morons already.

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    8. Re:Chrome? by syockit · · Score: 2

      My ass was ignorant too, but so was I with regards to Java updater, as I thought it was only the installer that had the checkbox thing. To my dismay, they resorted to bundling it even with security updates!

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    9. Re:Chrome? by QRDeNameland · · Score: 2

      uTorrent IS malware these days.

      Sadly true. I recently switched to qBittorrent and and though it lacks a few of the bells and whistles, I have not looked back.

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    10. Re:Chrome? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But I do value those things, and in fact they are probably my #1 consideration when choosing a browser so I use Firefox despite its many faults.

      So are you 100% google free? No Android, no Google browser, no Gmail?

      The reason I ask is because when I type something into the Firefox search bar in it's default configuration, shortly after it will appear as a suggested search in Chrome's universal address bar.

      It's not Chrome leaking user data.

    11. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Chrome is by design a tool to report your browsing to Google. Why else should they spend money in it ?

      It began with Chrome Sync, which sends home your bookmarks, tabs and... passwords, and became better with the "Reduce data usage" option, which directs all your web browsing traffic to Google servers for analysis.

      If Google created it, it IS meant to get data about you and sell it afterward, like any other Google creation.

    12. Re:Chrome? by QRDeNameland · · Score: 2

      The real question is: If you value privacy and dislike ads, why would you ever use Chrome?

      Well, I keep Chrome installed as my secondary browser because I run Firefox by default in "hazmat suit" mode (ABP, NoScript, Ghostery, RequestPolicy, etc.) which does break a lot of sites. For sites that I trust, oftentimes it is easier to just use Chrome than figure out what I need to whitelist in which plugin using FF. In terms of using it as your only/default browser, I agree with you, but even for a moderate paranoid like me, there is a case to be made for 'ever' using it.

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    13. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So "disagrees with my principles" == "unprincipled" now. Got it.

    14. Re:Chrome? by asmkm22 · · Score: 1

      Thankfully, Chrome doesn't require Java to be installed separately, so they've kind of taken care of that problem for us. But yeah, I agree that the Java installer should be labeled as malware. Same with basically anything that comes from Sourceforge ever since they changed the downloads to install programs, complete with bundled crap.

    15. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's just you using Google stuff. That doesn't invalidate claims about Chrome's motives, nor it's creator's. There is a difference between Firefox letting you use Google's search engine and Firefox storing the data. They don't. Google does. The very fact that Chrome learns about what you type into Firefox shows that Chrome and Google are the problem, and Firefox is just a petty accomplice at worst.

    16. Re:Chrome? by crioca · · Score: 1

      I haven't; can you answer linuxguy's question?

    17. Re:Chrome? by xvan · · Score: 1

      I switched too, from transmission, only for the "streaming/download chunks in order" capabilities, and no, I don't care about the swarm health foobar.

    18. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say's the google employee and/or fan boy (based on previous posts) :-)

    19. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BlackBerry, IE, Thunderbird on my own ISP that doesn't leave mail on the server very long (a month, not years), and DuckDuckGo. No Apple, No Adobe, No Google, No Problem!

    20. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actuually use Bing, iOS and Yandex e-mail. So yes, it is possible to live outside google's bubble.

    21. Re:Chrome? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      So "disagrees with my principles" == "unprincipled" now. Got it.

      Well, this is slashdot afterall. We don't want no stinking dissent from anyone, whether we agree with them or not.

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    22. Re:Chrome? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      That's a bit like avoiding the Mafia by joining the Triads.

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    23. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Chrome is closed-source (Chromium isn't Chrome) and made by a company that makes money off the data they have on you.
      For instance, anything you type on the address bar is sent to Google.

    24. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      Yes, if what you care about is consistency and not privacy, I'd say you're lacking principles.

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    25. Re:Chrome? by zedaroca · · Score: 2

      So are you 100% google free? No Android, no Google browser, no Gmail?

      People who care doesn't use the defaults on almost anything, the big exception being Tails.

      I don't agree with your point as everything falls between 0% and 100% and those numbers are actually very hard to get. To dismiss people just because they don't do 100% of something they are preaching is a fallacy to avoid the actual argument. Chrome does leak your data and it is not a choice for those who value their privacy even a little bit.

      Just by using firefox with adblock plus and duckduckgo, will make you much less monitored than people using Chrome, even if you use google services.

      I'm at least 95% google free. Firefox with adblock plus, disconnect and kaspersky ad blocking, search with duckduckgo or startpage in the few times when I really need google. Rooted android with no google apps and adblocking, never connecting to wifi or data networks (it is still a tracking device but, as far as we know, not for google), can't wait for a firefox phone. The weak link are the few youtube videos I watch now and then, always on a private tab to erase the cookies as soon as I get out (so they only get me by my dynamic IP, assuming they are keeping a log of that).

    26. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google has a rich history of abusing privacy. That should be alone to make you suspicious of using Chrome.

    27. Re: Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I would counter that you must have ate a lot of paint chips as a child to have developed such an utterly retarded sense of morality. You're essentially demanding that everyone agree with you is lacking in moral judgment. That doesn't make them look like they lack principles. It makes you look like an insufferable prick, which by no small coincidence is exactly what you are.

    28. Re: Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. A petty accomplice who accepts millions of dollars of funding from...wait for it...fucking Google. In return for defaulting to their data-collecting search engine, the Mozilla Foundation gets all the hard cash they need to stay afloat. I'm pretty sure that goes beyond the definition of a "petty accomplice." Your beloved Firefox defaults to the exact same data funnel

    29. Re:Chrome? by eWarz · · Score: 2

      This. Actually qBitttorent is superior in every way. It even closes when you hit the close button!

    30. Re: Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      You're essentially demanding that everyone agree with you is lacking in moral judgment.

      I'm saying that they lack the ability everything up in the quest for convenience. They do lack principles.

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    31. Re: Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      I'm saying that they lack the ability to not give everything up in the quest for convenience.*

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    32. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      So are you 100% google free? No Android, no Google browser, no Gmail?

      Yes.

      The reason I ask is because when I type something into the Firefox search bar in it's default configuration, shortly after it will appear as a suggested search in Chrome's universal address bar.

      Why not simply disable it?

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    33. Re:Chrome? by PoopMonkey · · Score: 1

      Google? Consistent? That's a joke.

    34. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It began with Chrome Sync, which sends home your bookmarks, tabs and... passwords, and became better with the "Reduce data usage" option, which directs all your web browsing traffic to Google servers for analysis.

      Both are optional.

      Can you answer the parent's question with something other than "Google is evil" or not?

    35. Re:Chrome? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Because the benefit and ease of use leaking my data brings far outweighs the consequences to me.

      The consequence is some company knows some anonymised information about me. So far I have yet to be wronged by any of them.

      The benefit on the other hand is that when I search for a company on google maps for instance and I head out to my car, my phone automatically brings up the time it will take to get there, the main route, and thanks to other people leaking their oh so sensitive data I also get a traffic congestion and time the trip will take me. Also in case GPS fails to connect for some reason which happened a lot on my previous phone, thanks to people leaking their oh so sensitive SSIDs and Google recording them I have a crude form of location services even when GPS isn't available such as when I'm indoors. That's just the indirect benefits I get and doesn't even begin to mention the primary benefit of having the option to trade my personal data in exchange for products and services which frees my money up for other endeavours.

      I don't disable it for the same reason I didn't disable sharing tracking information on my phone despite it being an opt in option when I first turned it on.

    36. Re:Chrome? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      People who care doesn't use the defaults on almost anything, the big exception being Tails.

      I care. In fact I care a lot. The difference is that I weigh up the benefits and the costs to options. I don't just assume that default = bad.

      Yes I read the warning when I first turned on my Android phone, the one about location sharing and opting in to Google location services and Google Play. I read them in detail and thought "fantastic!" I get services and benefits such as my phone automatically knowing where I intend to go based on a search I made on my PC right before I stepped in the car, and it helps me get there, without getting stuck in traffic. In return I don't need to pay someone to do this, just share some of my (slashdot would have you believe) highly sensitive personal information. An interesting side effect is that an advert that actually does slip through adblock is actually somewhat relevant to my interests.

      Not everyone feels wronged when they are being tracked in exchange for goods or services.

    37. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      Because the benefit and ease of use leaking my data brings far outweighs the consequences to me.

      As usual, your priorities are misplaced. The same applies to the majority of gamers, who behave like drug addicts; no matter how badly scumbag corporations abuse them with DRM, outright malware (Sony rootkits), walled gardens, etc., they always come crawling back for another fix, even if they claimed they would boycott the companies. They are profoundly ignorant.

      The consequence is some company knows some anonymised information about me.

      You are assuming that they truly are anonymizing the data. We already know corporations often work close together with the government, or will hand over lots and lots of information on request.

      But government or not, anonymous or not, I simply want to keep as much information out of the hands of scummy companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. as possible.

      So far I have yet to be wronged by any of them.

      It's possible to be wronged without knowing it. Harm is not always tangible. For instance, the NSA is harming people simply by collecting data.

      I don't disable it for the same reason I didn't disable sharing tracking information on my phone despite it being an opt in option when I first turned it on.

      Truly, that is a wise decision.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    38. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His question was answered. Given the history of companies abusing people's data and working closely with government thugs, none of them should be trusted by default. Evidence is simply not necessary, as the mere act of trusting them unnecessarily has been shown to be foolish.

      Show me the source code or shut up.

    39. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're certainly onto something, and I do similarly where I can.
      I can also offer experience of trying to use google with Tor - with many exit-nodes blocked, they're not so much offering free unencumbered search to the Internet at large as tightening the noose of what constitutes "acceptable behaviour".

    40. Re:Chrome? by satuon · · Score: 1

      I switched from transmission for the ability to preview which files to download for magnet links. My problem is that qBittorrent seems to crash very often, I still haven't figured out why it does that.

    41. Re:Chrome? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      As usual, your priorities are misplaced.

      Are they? Some minor personal data such as web searches vs some real tangible improvement in my life? Comparing me to a drug addict makes me think that you're responding more out of emotion rather than giving your response rational thought, especially considering the level of "abuse" people put up with. Take my girlfriend for instance. She paid for Sims 4. She bought it, played it without issue, and enjoyed it despite "the world is ending" kind of comments about the game's DRM on slashdot. Something not fitting in with your philosophical point of view does not mean someone is being "abused".

      Actually I'm beginning to think that you don't really understand the concept of trading something (money, personal data) for something else (services, products, enjoyment). The reality is the vast majority of the world is not at all affected by DRM, and that does not make them all addicts.

      You are assuming that they truly are anonymizing the data. We already know corporations often work close together with the government, or will hand over lots and lots of information on request.

      But government or not, anonymous or not, I simply want to keep as much information out of the hands of scummy companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. as possible.

      No I'm assuming that my information is not at all important. The government collects information you can not even fathom and the companies you list are actually some of the most up front about what is shared. But fortunately most of the western world is not actually afraid of their government. If I was living in the type of country where the government randomly makes citizens disappear or locks them up without due process then my opinion may be a bit different.

      It's possible to be wronged without knowing it. Harm is not always tangible. For instance, the NSA is harming people simply by collecting data.

      No they are not harming people by collecting data. They are only harming people by misusing data. Your argument sounds like those people who think cameras should be banned in public parks because someone may take a photo of a child and then go home and masturbate to it. The reality is if something does not have an effect on your life then you are not actually being wronged. Someone could be masturbating to a naked photo of me right now but I don't know about it so it isn't effecting me in any way. Your comparison to the NSA also fails to take into account my argument that you get something for something else. Google gives me something very useful for my data. The NSA only gives me "security" (man I can't keep a straight face saying that).

      I don't disable it for the same reason I didn't disable sharing tracking information on my phone despite it being an opt in option when I first turned it on.

      Truly, that is a wise decision.

      Did you read what I said there, because your reaction in this case is at odds with the rest of what you said, or did I just miss the sarcasm.

    42. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might be logged in to the same Google account at the same time on each browser, in which case it will remember.. Just a thought

    43. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are the same company.

      Just another note for those that don't remember, uTorrent creators were found out to have backdoored the product a few years ago and their excuse was that it was old code from the original authors. Sounds like bs to me. Tixati is open source and works perfect for me nowadays.

    44. Re:Chrome? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Chome is no worse than most other browsers. Firefox sends search requests to Google, IE sends them to Bing by default. They all include feedback mechanisms that can be turned off.

      Chrome actually has a pretty good porn mode. It doesn't have any advertising built in and supply supports AdBlock and other privacy enhancing plug-ins. I'm really not sure why you think it's goal is to counter privacy and choice. Can you be more specific?

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    45. Re:Chrome? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The only issue I find with it is that sometimes it hangs and can't be closed. Even Process Explorer can't kill it. This is a known problem with Windows where a task hangs waiting for a driver or something in the kernel, and it may be specific to my system, but I've never seen any other app do it.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    46. Re:Chrome? by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      I'm at least 95% google free. Firefox with adblock plus

      Just a heads up in case you haven't heard adblock 'plus' is now essentially adware itself. Pretty pointless. What you want is adblock edge. It's just a fork that blocks all ads that it can, even from companies who have paid off the original dev who obviously cannot be trusted.

      --
      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    47. Re:Chrome? by makomk · · Score: 1

      By that standard Google Chrome itself has been malware for years - many pieces of software have bundled it in exchange for money from Google and made it hard not to accidentally install it, including I think Java, Flash, and various more shady products, and Google hasn't given a fuck.

    48. Re:Chrome? by coofercat · · Score: 1

      Wasn't there some bug where Chrome left your microphone on and used Google's text-to-speech to listen in on everything you said? (http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/speech-recognition-hack-turns-google-chrome-into-advanced-bugging-device/)

      I'm sure Firefox has some "duh!" bugs too, but I have to say, this Chrome was was pretty awful.

    49. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never been one to "torrent" things (verbing weirds English!) but I recently needed to download Xubuntu, and a torrent was the best way to get it. So I just recently went looking for a good BT client. I found that almost all of them are either shitty or malware or both.

      I picked Deluge because it seemed to be decent, malware-free, and open-source.

    50. Re:Chrome? by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Privacy != blocking ads.

      Personally, I use Chrome not because I have a hardon for Google, but because:
      a) it's generally been the fastest smoothest browser out there. Sure, this or that may just nudge ahead of Chrome now and again, but I'd rather take "1st or 2nd fastest every time" over "was first once, then was never heard of for 7 months, then was first again".
      b) I don't honestly care about "privacy" in the FUD context it's generally bandied about. Frankly, if the great "them" collecting data on me want to know that I'm a 46 year old hetero white male and serve me ads of stuff that I want (preferably draped in scantily clad, easily-objectifiable women) I'm al lfor it.

      I use adblock not for privacy purposes, but as a filter against the obnoxious, aggressive, in-your-face ubiquitous advertising that gets in the way of my browsing. In fact, I watch carefully the number of blocked cookies, etc. For sites I've visited for a while and seen they're moderately low and not too obtrusive, I disable adblock because I want them to get the revenue for my visits, as small as it is. TANSTAAFL.

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      -Styopa
    51. Re: Chrome? by EvilJoker · · Score: 1

      He's referring to the address bar also being the search bar, which provides suggestions. I do believe this feature can be disabled.

    52. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "As usual, your priorities are misplaced."

      Yeah, OK dumbass, you know best what other peoples priorities should be.

      You know that feeling you get when no one understands what you're trying to tell them, when everyone around you is ignorant of the things that are obvious to you? That feeling of wanting to shout at the top of your lungs to pierce their blind and numb stupidity? That feeling of loneliness, of being the only one who can see whats really going on?

      That's what it feels like to a goddamn fruitcake who needs to see a shrink.

    53. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google openly admits to tracking you for the purpose of tracking you through Chrome. It's not evil, just it doesn't seem to make sense that one form of advertisement is okay and not another.

    54. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, OK dumbass, you know best what other peoples priorities should be.

      I know that the TSA needs to be eliminated, that the NSA's spying needs to be stopped, and that it's damn foolish to allow scummy corporations--which often work hand-in-hand with the government--to have access to your data unnecessarily.

      That's what it feels like to a goddamn fruitcake who needs to see a shrink.

      So if I was saying that 1 + 1 = 2, and everyone else was saying that it's not, I would need a shrink? This is just the bandwagon fallacy.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    55. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      Are they? Some minor personal data such as web searches vs some real tangible improvement in my life?

      Some people call metadata "minor," too, and yet it easily could have been used to find Paul Revere. You'd be surprised at what they're capable of when using only "minor" data.

      The reality is the vast majority of the world is not at all affected by DRM, and that does not make them all addicts.

      But fortunately most of the western world is not actually afraid of their government.

      And now your mentality has been revealed. Every citizen in every free country should be *cautious* of their governments. Why do you think we place limitations on their powers? Because hundreds of millions of people were abused and/or outright murdered throughout history by these 'trustworthy' fellows in governments, proving that it's foolish to give them too much power.

      I'm sure you'd downplay the "metadata" the NSA is collecting too, as if it doesn't matter that they're violating people's rights and the constitution. You simply don't care about privacy, freedom, or anything else, and seek convenience above all else.

      No they are not harming people by collecting data. They are only harming people by misusing data.

      Fucking bullshit. They're violating the constitution and people's liberties, and that more than qualifies as harm to every person whose data they are collecting.

      Your argument sounds like those people who think cameras should be banned in public parks because someone may take a photo of a child and then go home and masturbate to it.

      Nope. Public place. The NSA intercepts people's communications, which is a rather different story.

      Also, you're an idiot. *You're* the one who said that the collecting of the data is not harm, and it's the abuse of it that harms. I, however, do not require abuse to say that it is harm, so your example is nonsensical to begin with.

      The reality is if something does not have an effect on your life then you are not actually being wronged.

      The NSA's data collecting *does* have an effect on my life as a citizen in 'the land of the free and the home of the brave.' The constitution is the highest law of the land in the US, and if the government violates it, then that harms every single citizen.

      You seem to think that physical harm is the only harm that exists; that's nonsense. You can harm people merely by infringing upon their liberties, whether or not something physical happened (although data collection is physical too).

      Someone could be masturbating to a naked photo of me right now but I don't know about it so it isn't effecting me in any way.

      And yet if someone installed spy cameras in someone's house and spied on them, they could sue for damages and that person would be put in prison even if the data was never 'misused.' The real misuse is in *collecting* the data.

      or did I just miss the sarcasm.

      You missed the sarcasm.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    56. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What a load of crap. It's started at time why JS engines were slow and not a top priority for the other browsers. Google needed that for their multiple online products and if they have any sanity they need to always keep that in mind.

    57. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you did a search through Google, and Google took the data and spread it all around, and you blame Firefox for this?

    58. Re:Chrome? by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      uTorrent IS malware these days.

      Sadly true. I recently switched to qBittorrent and and though it lacks a few of the bells and whistles, I have not looked back.

      Agreed. I made the switch this year. F---ing conduit search malware. Ninite dropped uTorrent in preference for qBittorent as well.

      One feature I like about qBittorrent is it remembers recent download folder selections, making organizing TV torrents a breeze.

    59. Re:Chrome? by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      I meant care about privacy. If you consider the tradeoff good, then you do not care a lot about privacy. At least we can say that you care less about privacy than you care about the goods or services you can get by giving it up.
      I don't assume that default = bad either, I even gave an example that default isn't necessarily bad (Tails), but that being said, there were very few cases where I checked and the default was the best/safer/more honest option.

    60. Re:Chrome? by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip, I'll try it. I didn't like when that option of allowing adds came up, but assumed it would be ok to just leave it off. I wonder if that's why disconnect and kaspersky are blocking some stuff, maybe now I'll find out.
      "Pretty pointless" is way too harsh. The internet really sucks with all the ads, 80% good is better than nothing.

    61. Re:Chrome? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You missed my fundamental point. It's not the nature of the data, it's the value of the data. It's one thing to collect data without providing anything tangable in return, quite another in exchange for payment, products, or services.

      As for your poor liberties I feel so sorry that you're being actively oppressed by your government.

      Except you're not, and the only rebuttal you could come up with is name calling? Classic defence strategy, just not a very good debating strategy.

      Anyway I assume I won't hear from you again because you're evil government will come and lock you up because they are collecting meta data on you and you're speaking out against your oppressive regime.

      Was nice knowing you.

      By the way you should actually experience oppression some day. It will instantly change your mine about your government.

    62. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      You missed my fundamental point. It's not the nature of the data, it's the value of the data. It's one thing to collect data without providing anything tangable in return, quite another in exchange for payment, products, or services.

      It's not about value or receiving anything in return; to me, it's about morality and priorities.

      As for your poor liberties I feel so sorry that you're being actively oppressed by your government. Except you're not

      Except I am, and I explained why. You're under the delusion that the only harm that exists is physical harm. However, people in a constitutional republic such as the US are harmed by having the constitution violated, because it's a direct violation of the agreement that the government can only do what the constitution says it can. Other than that, violating people's rights is a good way to harm them.

      Metadata could have been used to find Paul Revere. We kill people based on metadata. To suggest that it's no big deal suggests that you're anti-freedom and opposed to the constitution.

      just not a very good debating strategy.

      Being a good debater usually just involves being the biggest bullshitter. Insulting someone does not invalidate any of your arguments.

      Anyway I assume I won't hear from you again because you're evil government will come and lock you up because they are collecting meta data on you and you're speaking out against your oppressive regime.

      False dilemma. "Either your government is out to murder you for speaking out, or they're a perfectly good government." While they might not be after the common people at this time, they *are* collecting communications metadata on nearly everyone, which violates people's rights and the constitution. And they almost undoubtedly will use this to selectively oppress a minority of people that they deem to be a threat (i.e. good leaders capable of rallying people to change the system). Just like they were wiretapping MLK and harassed countless innocent people in the name of stopping communism.

      By the way you should actually experience oppression some day.

      "X is worse than Y, so Y isn't bad." "There are countries with governments worse than the US government, so the US government isn't bad." Non sequitur. How about I punch you in the face, and then make up the excuse that since there are starving people in Africa in a much worse situation than you, what I did wasn't bad?

      Do you have any more illogical excuses you want to make for a government that's violating people's rights and the highest law of the land?

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    63. Re:Chrome? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not simply disable it?

      If you use google anyway, what difference does it make if you go to www.google.com or type it into the search bar? Google gets the same information about you anyway. If you find the bar convenient but google is the problem, set the search bar to use a different search engine. What I don't know with certainty is if the search bar submits an anonymous search to google in a private window but since such searches don't show up in autocomplete in non-private windows later, I don't think so.

    64. Re:Chrome? by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

      It's completely possible to not use Google anything, which was the point.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    65. Re:Chrome? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Why not use SeaMonkey? If you're comfortable with Netscape 4.75, you'll pretty much feel right at home.

  6. Chrome? by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

    Still? Amongst the folks I work with, Chrome is dead. Listing uTorrent as malware was the straw that broke the camel's back. So, Adblock Plus FTW!

    --
    Cloudiot: A person who does not see offsite storage as a way to lose control over access to his or her own data.
  7. AB, ABE... and! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AB [ad block]
    ABE [ad block edge]
    those are fine and dandy, but when I switched back to opera recently I discovered
    HTTPSB [http switchboard]
    it has more control but still lacks in some areas, definitely worth checking out if you use noscript+adblock

  8. This makes no sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a donation driven project written by a single developer. Why would he do this? What benefits would come from collecting personal information and hiding it from users?

    1. Re:This makes no sense. by Mandrel · · Score: 1

      This is a donation driven project written by a single developer. Why would he do this? What benefits would come from collecting personal information and hiding it from users?

      Palant claims that Adblock is covertly scaling up into something similar to what Adblock Plus has done.

      Anyway, I'm not sure these browser extensions are sufficiently complex and hard to maintain that they can't like Adblock Edge be run by volunteers. If anything it's the filter list maintainers who should get our donations. The big adblockers only have scope to "turn evil" to the extent that people don't switch.

  9. None of them II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just use the hosts file provided by Dan Pollock -> http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/hosts

  10. This makes no sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think one person can't sell data to a mining company?

  11. Reject all proprietary software and "choice" too by jbn-o · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You'd not only rightly reject Google Chrome you'd also reject choice as a reason to favor nonfree software. Chrome is a nonfree browser so that is right out. A choice of nonfree programs doesn't satisfy what computer users need—software freedom. Choice is easily satisfied in that there's more than one alternative but choice of software says nothing about how well the alternatives address important needs to control one's computer (rather than letting the software control the users). So choice of software is a weak substitute for the freedoms to run, inspect, share, and modify software.

  12. Or, use a big hosts file by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't use Adblock, but I've been using this for years. I rarely see an ad unless it's served directly from the site I'm visiting, and it blocks a lot of malware as well. It has something like 16,000 entries, but doesn't seem to slow things down at all.

    1. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      That's really cool, and I'm gonna try it now. This has gotta be the first post on the Slashdots I've seen about host files not written from some raving lunatic, and actually very useful. Thanks!

      --
      You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
    2. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To add to this, I don't use their host file, but I do run my own DNS server based on that list. That way, all the devices in my house are ad-free.

    3. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up. A (properly) modifed /etc/hosts file (in case you're using Linux/Unix, don't know the Windows/Mac equivalent) should be more efficient than a browser based solution. I say more efficient because you effectively cut out one step in the web browsing chain, as links to the "blocked" web sites are simply redirected to localhost (127.0.0.) instead of being first handed over to the OS for DNS resolution and then blocked by browser.

      However, compared to a browser extension, the hosts files hack can't do wildcard pattern matching, so if you want to block Facebook, you can't just input "*facebook.com" but every subdomain like www.facebook.com, cdn.facebook.com, etc.

    4. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > However, compared to a browser extension, the hosts files hack can't do wildcard pattern matching,

      It also can't easily block the newest trick - DNS aliasing.

      For example:
      doubleclick.com -- easy to block
      doubleclick.espn.com - hard to block

      And that's over-simplified to make it obvious, much more likely is that they use a hostname like "a1.espn.com"

      It isn't really feasible for smaller sites to use DNS aliasing for their ad-networks. But anybody site that is bigger than a one-man operation can do it.

    5. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      It is true that the default Windows/Linux hosts file cannot do wildcard matching. However there are some apps like Acrylic or angryhosts which may allow such wildcard functionality. These seem to be Windows only however. For Linux there may be other options like DNS Chef. I am not completely clear however whether DNS Chef would work for this.

      Of course hosts file blocking lists like mvps and yoyo would have to be updated to support wildcards. I guess someone could write a simple program to wildcard every domain in those lists and then maybe the list maintainers could be convinced to maintain wildcard versions. I think this is the only way that this DNS based ad blocking can move forward.

      --
      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    6. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loaded this hosts file, but still got ads up the wazoo from the Slashdot page.

    7. Re:Or, use a big hosts file by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Squid Guard / Dans Guardian should be able to deal with this shouldn't it? I use SquidGuard for the office and it has reduced my users' click-the-monkey problems to 0. It does screw up the occasional website, but overall has been excellent. Doesn't OpenWRT have this?

  13. Adblock got bought by a marketing company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Part of the terms of the deal is they can not disclose the that they have new owners, who the new owners are, or any affiliations they have to the new owner, etc? But yes its now a spying tool and should not be trusted.

    I have added question marks for legal protection.

    1. Re:Adblock got bought by a marketing company? by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      This is also the case with Ghostery.

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    2. Re: Adblock got bought by a marketing company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ghostery got bought by a marketing company??

    3. Re: Adblock got bought by a marketing company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ghostery got bought by a marketing company??

      https://www.ghosteryenterprise.com/

      Less "bought by", more "always was".

      [I still use it. [shrug] At some point you just have to say "fuck it".]

    4. Re:Adblock got bought by a marketing company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, +1 for ghostery. I tried Badger some time ago and it made my browser unstable - maybe it is fixed now.

  14. There's only one way to find out ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... FIGHT!

  15. RequestPolicy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I consider the default deny blocking of RequestPolicy essential.

  16. Should I do an ad blocker? by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm behind Ad Limiter, which limits Google search ads to one per page, picking the best one based on SiteTruth ratings. You can set it for zero search ads if you like. It also puts SiteTruth ratings on Google search results. It's a demo for SiteTruth search spam filtering.

    This Mozilla/Chrome add on has a general ad-blocking mechanism inside. Unlike most ad blockers, it's not based on regular expressions looking for specific HTML. It finds URLs known to lead to ads, works outward through the DOM to find the ad boundary, then deletes the ad. So it's relatively insensitive to changes in ad code, and doesn't require much maintenance. The same code processes search results from Google, Bing, Yahoo, Bleeko, DuckDuckGo, and Infoseek. (Coming soon, Yandex support, and better handling of Google ads within ads, where an ad has multiple links.)

    So, if I wanted to do a better ad blocker, I could do so easily. Should I? Is another one really needed? Are the headaches of running one worth it?

    1. Re:Should I do an ad blocker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you should. AdBlockers are notorious for their resource-usage. If you can improve it, and are interested in doing so, then you ought to try. The ad industry treats it as an arms race, so we might as well too.

  17. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Android has demonstrated one thing about FOSS it is that users do not care. It went from being almost wholly open to then having its core applications closed and now its new features components closed (google play services) and nobody cares.

    You can spout this "doesn't satisfy what computer users need" rubbish all you want but the fact is it is demonstrably false. Users didnt get anything substantial out of it being wholly open and they havent lost anything by much of it being closed and the reason is because you FOSS folks sit around complaining and pontificating but when an opportunity to showcase the advantages of FOSS presents itself you do nothing. Stop trying to tell us how great FOSS is and actually show us, you have had ample opportunity to produce a great desktop, laptop, tablet, smartphone, settop box, etc ... and everytime it is some half-assed, unfinished, also-ran, me-too attempt to copy the proprietary products. I like the philosophy and I would be happy to see it succeed if those advocates were capable of it but the truth is it doesn't seem to work in any practical sense.

  18. Mu by sootman · · Score: 5, Informative

    /etc/hosts

    Install once, update if you care to, but it's not essential. Requires no configuration after installation, works for ALL browsers on your system with no setup, does not require the browser to "support" it in any way (i.e., extensions), never ever gets broken by browser updates, works on ancient computers with grossly out-of-date browsers. Works with ANY tcp/ip-based app on your system, really, so it lowers vectors for IM apps, Acrobat, etc.

    The first computer I used it on was an 800 MHz G3 iBook with 640 MB RAM. Some people may say a large hosts file will slow down your computer, but I've never seen that happen myself in over a decade of using it on literally every computer I have.

    It may not block EVERY ad like a dedicated extension does, but it comes really really close, and I like the fact that it works with all browsers and never requires updating. When I get a new computer, I put the hosts file on and pretty much never touch it again. A handful of sites (like hulu) will not work with an adblocker and it's a manual process to edit the file, but for unix types, that's not a problem. It blocks google's sponsored links so you may need to take that out too, for people who google "sears" and click the first (sponsored) link instead of the first actual link.

    No reason not to do security in layers and use it WITH adblocking extensions, I suppose, but I've never felt the need to.

    --
    Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
    1. Re:Mu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of the entries in that keep Duke Energy's and T-Mobile's websites from working. I gave up trying to figure it out and flushed it and kept adblock edge, noscript and a few other tools.

    2. Re:Mu by antdude · · Score: 1

      Use both. But that one is too much since there are some valid web sites that have problems like YouTube. :(

      --
      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    3. Re:Mu by satuon · · Score: 1

      I've heard that it doesn't work as well, that sites will look different, or not all ads will be blocked. Or that some sites will refuse to load if the ads fail, etc. I've never tried it personally, so I can't tell if it's true first hand.

  19. Only evil people use adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, deprive sites of revenue, how dare you!

    I'd much appreciate a way for these stupid ad-blocking apps to be more consequence driven rather than evil-driven.

    eg, "this ad was blocked due to the following rule: (DANGER) spawns popups,plays video" rather than deleting the html from the DOM and then having the user not realize why part of a website doesn't work because the site put their core content under a class called "pad" which is tripped because of "ad" in it.

  20. Privacy Badger by virgilcaine · · Score: 1

    I wanted to throw point out Privacy Badger: https://www.eff.org/privacybad... Paid ads support many development teams, which creates/improves websites with better content It's not the ads so much, it's the tracking that I can do with out

    1. Re:Privacy Badger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also use Privacy Badger. But I also use Adblock Plus AND NoScript. I don't like getting malicious code from drive by's.

    2. Re:Privacy Badger by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      As far as I'm concerned, Privacy Badger is a non-starter for the same reason Adblock Plus is: Once you open the door to the idea that there are "legitimate" ad providers, you've blown your credibility.

  21. None of them. by nashv · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, I cannot use Adblock Edge even though I like to, since I use Chrome. The Adblock Edge developer has shown no interest in making a Chrome version available.

    And, yes, please don't tell me I need to be using Firefox - there are plenty of reasons why Chrome is preferable.

    --
    Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.
  22. Memory Sucker by v.+Konigsmann · · Score: 1

    I recently disabled AdBlock Plus --- after just using it for years unthinkingly --- and found my browser memory dropped by a third. Using Icecat ( = Firefox 24, because Firefox just sucks like a minimalistic Chrome twin now ), but also tested on my Firefox installation.

    AdvertBan and Ghostery seem to do the same, without sucking RAM.

    1. Re:Memory Sucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the opposite effect when chasing down a misbehaving extension. As soon as I turned off ABP and EHH-ABP, FF memory usage jumped by over half a gig, and the flashplayer process by a third. Just from ads (and whatever other scrolling blinking shit I'd blocked with EHH.)

  23. Proxomitron Forever... by jjoelc · · Score: 1

    Proxomitron was WAY ahead of its' time. It is still installed and running wonderfully on a couple of my systems. If you simply *must* have something which is more recently actively developed then Proximodo may be more up your alley. It is fully compatible with all Proximodo filters, etc. but is lacking SSL support...

  24. ABP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cold war Tech is this???

  25. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by sd4f · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But there is a strong misconception that android is still FOSS. The phrase that comes to mind is the rug has been pulled from under them. I was surprised to learn to what lengths google has gone to lock down android. It was certainly a huge reason as to why a lot of the tech sector was pushing android in the early days (nothing gets the tech sector weaker in the knees than FOSS). While you are right, that users don't care, google has performed a massive bait and switch.

  26. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But there is a strong misconception that android is still FOSS. The phrase that comes to mind is the rug has been pulled from under them.

    But that is exactly the point: did they notice? No. Google play services has been around for a couple of years now and for all the "evil" and "stealing of freedom" of proprietary software the end result is nothing, it has just been FOSS FUD. Were any great innovations born of free software trampled by this act? Nope.

  27. Thank You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to send Wladimir Palant and the entire Adblock team a well deserved thank you for making the Internet a better place.

    Mike

    1. Re:Thank You by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      Wladimir is taking his thank yous in cash from advertisers wanting in on his whitelist. His idea wasn't original. It just became the most popular version. He's a cunt who has betrayed his users.

      --
      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
  28. How to turn off Java's junkware install prompts by evilsofa · · Score: 1

    1. To prevent junkware prompts during the initial install, download the installer from oracle instead of java.com, because the oracle installer does not have the junkware prompt:
    http://www.oracle.com/technetw...
    (searching for "java oracle download" will get you there)

    2. To prevent junkware prompts during the updates, disable Java Sponsors.
    A java.com FAQ claims that in 7u65 or later, you can find a "Suppress sponsor offers when updating Java" option in the Java Control Panel's Advanced tab, but I have never seen it there, possibly because I have issued the regkey fix. To do that, save the following text to a file titled "disable-java-sponsers.reg" and double-click the file:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft]
    "SPONSORS"="DISABLE"

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\JavaSoft]
    "SPONSORS"="DISABLE"


    The answer of "Don't install Java at all, problem solved" is great and I wholeheartedly recommend it for those who don't need to run it, but there are many who have no choice and must run it for work, banking, Minecraft, etc. Using the regkey fix is great to prevent clueless family (grandparents!) and friends who need to run Java from accidentally installing the junkware.

  29. Re: Reject all proprietary software and "choice" t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. I don't know how you could have posted that soapbox diatribe with your head so firmly lodged in your own ass.

  30. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by jeIIomizer · · Score: 2

    The TSA has been around for a while, too. People don't seem to care about privacy, fundamental liberties, or software freedom. Does that make those things bad or unimportant? No. It just means that people are ignorant.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  31. Re: Reject all proprietary software and "choice" t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It never ceases to amaze me how, even after the Snowden leaks (which revealed the obvious, but in greater detail), people still don't understand the importance of FOSS. If anyone's question is, "What does that have to do with intercepting communications?", you're simply ignorant of the fact that exploits can more easily be hidden in proprietary code, and you are beholden to a specific source to modify the code.

  32. Hosts file ffs by mrbcs · · Score: 1

    Why use Adblock when a hosts file works across the whole system? Honestly, never understood Adblock.

    --
    I'm not anti-social, I'm anti-idiot.
    1. Re:Hosts file ffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'cause a hosts file doesn't handle wild cards.

      For years, I have been thinking about making a patch to the Linux kernel so that it will handle wildcards, but never seems to get around to it.

    2. Re:Hosts file ffs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people don't know about the hosts file and AB and ABP offer an easy button to press when something bothers a person instead of finding a file and opening it in a text editor. Host files are for people who dig in to their systems, AB and ABP are for people who don't care enough to dig in to their systems but want a shiny button or control to press.

    3. Re:Hosts file ffs by mrbcs · · Score: 1
      http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho...

      I can't believe that slashdot users can't do this:

      Download, extract, right click, install, reboot.

      --
      I'm not anti-social, I'm anti-idiot.
  33. Adblock Plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Adblock Plus is better than Adblock. It's because of the Plus.

    I say this as a person who uses neither, is not qualified to comment, and doesn't know what the difference is! So how can I say that Adblock Plus is superior?

    Conditioning. Consumer conditioning has imparted to me that Plus is superior, always. Also, SE (Special Edition), Extended, Premium, LE (Limited Edition), GT (Grand Touring), European (just go with it...), natural, organic, vegetarian (although vegan snorts in derision at mere vegetarian), soy-free, soy-based, nut free, olive oil containing, hand made, artisinal, imported, domestic, and a thousand others I can't remember at the moment.

    I'm a well-trained consumer in a consumer society. I derive my sense of individuality by corporate branding and consumption habits!

    1. Re:Adblock Plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when Adblock Plus tried to make users see ads, anyway, by selling whitelisting to blocked advertisers? Yeah, fuck those guys.

  34. You can use 12 reputable sources... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It boosts security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

    1. Re:You can use 12 reputable sources... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All adblock fans/palant sockpuppets do is downmod you but can't prove you wrong. Pitiful of 'em. We know the deal apk. They resort to that and are so stupid they don't realize they're helping you out doing it.

  35. I use it (& 12 more reputable sources)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Via my program that adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  36. Addons = INFERIOR vs. hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Via my program that adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  37. AdBlock = INFERIOR + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vs. hosts files that add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  38. Adblock = INFERIOR vs. hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Via my program for hosts file construction that adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  39. I have to use Chrome by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 0

    I used to use firefox, but when they fired an executive for an ancient political contribution, I decided I couldn't use a browser made by that company. So now I use Chrome.

    For the record, I don't even agree with the executive's cause that he contributed to. But firing an executive for making a political contribution is dangerous ground, so I can't support that.

    --
    They don't grade fathers, but if your daughter's a stripper, you fucked up. --Chris Rock
    1. Re:I have to use Chrome by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Why would you have to use Chrome? There are more than two browsers out there, you know. If you otherwise like Firefox, I would suggest IceWeasel or PaleMoon.

  40. RequestPolicy = INFERIOR vs. hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See "A3" & link below; Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

    1. Re:RequestPolicy = INFERIOR vs. hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't normally reply to infomercials that push a commercial product, especially those that cite absurd quotes from fictional movies.

      I did the host file technique for years, and still do on a limited basis. It is inflexible, it does not allow me to change the policy on the fly - temporarily or permanently. It also does not work for hard coded IP addresses.

  41. AdBlock = INFERIOR vs. hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  42. AdBlock & Palant = INFERIOR vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  43. Good & SMARTER people use hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  44. AdBlock & Ghostery = INFERIOR + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  45. AdBlock & Ghostery = INFERIOR + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & far more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apkA.)

  46. Chrome/FF can't "counter" hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts operate @ the IP stack layer: Hosts add security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (doing far more & more efficiently vs. browser addons + even fix DNS' security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  47. How to build the best hosts file possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use my application (which uses that source & 12 more reputable ones also) - APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

    1. Re:How to build the best hosts file possible? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Sounds very interesting, except for a few details of my own following-up. Here's the hosts file, from the parent thread that I originally replied to. When I follow and download your stuff, I end up with a .exe executable file, which seems like kind of an untrustworthy hassle to deal with, just to extract a simple hosts file, as I'm (mostly) on Linux (etc). At which point I ran out of time and interest.

      I'm sorry, but I am really only interested in seeing hosts file code I can read and install myself. But perhaps I am missing something which you might care to clarify? Please forgive me if this is the case, and feel free to do so.

      --
      You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
    2. Re:How to build the best hosts file possible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clicking the link "To view the HOSTS file in plain text form." was to hard for you?

    3. Re:How to build the best hosts file possible? by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Well, I looked specifically for that once on the page you cited and couldn't find it, before I downloaded the .exe and inspected that. Really, truly. Why don't you save us all time and post the link here? Citations are kind of a standard, as is sarcasm on the Slashdots, but never you mind.

      --
      You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
  48. Host File + Privacy Badger extension by millertym · · Score: 1

    Seems to work the fine for me. As has been said, the host file modification from the winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm site blocks 99% of ads as far as I can tell. Privacy badger is a nice little extension that checks for browser tracking.

  49. I was considering installing ad block by issicus · · Score: 1

    for slashdot. all the other sites I use aren't fucking obnoxious with their ads.

  50. AdBlock Edge by Tom · · Score: 1

    Due to the questionable new owners of ABP, I've since changed to Edge.

    Basically, the moment people tell you that there's such a thing as "acceptable advertisement" and that anyone except you, yourself can decide which it is, you know they've sold out. It's shorthand for "we will allow advertisement that pays us to let it through".

    --
    Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
  51. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Straw men are flammable; yours needs a match.

  52. Adblockers are a godsend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've browsed some websites recently which I'd only used with adblock before and I was amazed by the difference in user experience - where before I was able to read the content relatively unimpeded, now I had to navigate past enormous animated ads, pop overs, pop unders, interstitials, trackers etc. It's incredible to me that anyone would visit the site without an ad blocker or why the site would use so many ads that it was actually offensive.

    Of course, sleazier sites are even worse. The likes of The Pirate Bay (much loved & defended by /. users) don't give a damn who they sell ads to or what payload the "ad" consists of. It's not uncommon to load it up and the page begins to initiate a download of malware or festoon the page with porn and popups for moneymaking scams. So not only does Adblock strip out all the shit from the page, but it plays an active role as a first line of defence against scummy exploits and malware.

  53. There's only one way to find out... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

    --
    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
  54. It's recommended as "best of breed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By Malwarebytes' hpHosts website (they host my program for me) @ top of their site -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & is 100% clean/malicious code exploit free (they proved that alongside myself in fact negating "false positives" from Norton/Symantec, Comodo, ClamAV, ArcaVir, & McAfee/Intel from the JOTTI online + VirusTotal online tests (80 total, only those screwed up on it, & I proved them WRONG no less, on EXACTLY what I said they were wrong on, forcing them to rescind that accusation in fact - they didn't understand an .exe compression method I used, in 64-bit only, 32-bit was ALWAYS ok by everyone))...

    APK

    P.S.=> So, yes - you can trust it (& trust it does the job better than anything else, doing MORE with LESS, no less - especially vs. inferior browser adds, of which no single 1 or combination of them even do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity + it even fixes DNS security issues in redirect bugs ala the Kaminsky flaw)... apk

    1. Re:It's recommended as "best of breed" by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      That link you cited this time is so much better! Thank you very much; and at first glance your hosts file looks splendid. Thank you for taking the time to clarify yourself AC.

      Testing that file is now on my to-do list.

      --
      You can't be ahead of the curve, if you're stuck in a loop.
  55. Adblock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Via my program for hosts file construction that adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (more efficiently by FAR vs. browser addons + even fixes DNS' redirect security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  56. I use it (+ 12 more reputable sources)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Via a program that adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity (does far more, more efficiently than browser addons + even fixes DNS security issues):

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  57. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    Are you aware of Cyanogen? Did you know that you can buy high end phones with Cyanogen as the default OS? Cyanogen is built from AOSP and is fully free. It also supports extensive ad-blocking and app permission control, way beyond what any other mobile OS offers.

    In what way exactly is Android not free? You can build and run it perfectly well without the Google apps, as Cyanogen and many others do. The resulting OS is fully featured and compatible, and can be distributed commercial without permission from Google.

    --
    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  58. I use it (+12 more reputable sources)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  59. You're welcome & thank YOU... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A story to interest you (regards AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator): He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied this:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbitt...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts are a superior solution (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  60. True story for the downmodder of my post... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied this:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbitt...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts are a superior solution that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  61. Re:genocidal inbred crown royals mutated, spiritle by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    These are showing up more often lately. Does slashdot even use any Bayesian content filtering?

  62. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied this:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbitt...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts are a superior solution that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  63. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Did you know that you can buy high end phones with Cyanogen as the default OS?

    I didn't. Which phones? I've never been able to get a decent experience from cyanogen on a phone (My Nook color and tablet are a different matter) because the lack of the little "optimizations" individual to the phone models usually ends up breaking something like voicemail, battery life, or actually detecting a cell signal.

    If someone's putting out an actual CM out of the box, I might want to have a look at it.

  64. Re:AdBlock can't do a fraction of what hosts do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... apk

    I have mod points right now and I SO wish there was a '-2, binspam' selection for a-holes like you who keep copy-and-pasting their own running-off-at-the-mouth jerk-off posts.

  65. Neither, use Privacy Badger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

  66. You ran out of downmod points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you got is illogical off topic effete useless ad hominem attacks vs. fact apk put out http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and apk putting up a free tool that does more than any single browser addon that also fixes dns security issues and also adding more speed, security, reliability, and anonymity than any addons do isn't spam: It's useful fact from a superior and yet simpler more efficient and versatile solution, vs. bolting on more complexity and room for breakdown failure in redundantly and inefficiently doing as addons do in a slower mode of operation with horrible memory, cpu, and message passing overhead abuse. You only proves apk right yet again all the more so. He should thank you for your blatantly transparent stupidity, troll. Now that apk burnt out your modpoints for downmodding many of his posts throughout this entire article (he simply reposted them so you can't hide them, outfoxing your weak "modus operandi") as you obviously did and you're out of 'bullets' now? You fail. Apk proves adblocks inferiority vs. hosts as well as the fact clarityray is destroying adblock but can't affect hosts files too? You show your true colors (transparent). This was also a very interesting story of how Wladimir Palant ran from apk's challenge to him numerous times as well http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... proving your "hero" Palant, is also blatantly inferior to apk on a programmatic design and efficacy + efficiency front as well. You lose/fail. So does Almost all ads blocked (sold out to Google and crippled by default too), to apk. You can't even touch apk's points of fact validly technically disproving them: Triple fail (Mr. Palant, and yes, I suspect it's you doing all of that and failing again to apk). Truth and a useful free tool is not spam. It's fact. Superior fact.

  67. stuff that needs to be added by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    be sure to enter addthis.com to the file. it's the biggest pest around, browsing speed will improve greatly with this blocked

  68. Hosts existed decades before adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts also do far more, more efficiently than addons and also fix dns security issues http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  69. No matter how you slice it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock = inferior on many levels in added speed, security, reliability, anonymity + efficiency vs. hosts http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... hosts files are the original, far more versatile, and ubiquitous superior method, by far.

  70. Re:Adblock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, I missed you, mad, lunatic, woman assaulting, inhumane and SOB APK :')

  71. Re:Adblock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Raenex · · Score: 1

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    I read through the thread on RequestPolicy, and you were pretty thick when it came to recognizing some key points:

    1) RequestPolicy blocks all external sites by default, which means you don't need a "bad" list that needs to be constantly maintained, so it's actually the simpler and more effective solution.

    2) The reason to block YouTube from 3rd party sites is to avoid tracking by Google (they own YouTube). With RequestPolicy, I can still watch YouTube videos and avoid the tracking. But that's just one example. RequestPolicy blocks all such requests, so I don't have to worry about YouTube, Amazon, or any other site that probably isn't in the "bad" list from getting tracking info from 3rd party sites by doing something as simple as embedding a link.

    3) You mention speed, but give no hard numbers. If, for example, RequestPolicy does its job in less than 1ms, then it doesn't matter if a hosts file is twice as fast or even ten times as fast, because either way the difference is imperceptible. I don't have any speed problems using RequstPolicy, at all.

    I'll throw in another point: RequestPolicy is open source, meaning I don't have to trust a binary from "apk" being run as an admin to manage my hosts file. RequestPolicy is also cross-platform.

    You can have the last word, as engaging in discussion with you is pointlessly annoying. I'm just leaving this response so that people who are rational can make an informed judgment.

  72. You're wasting resources/adding complexity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts files compliment DNS & use less of the above per my subject-line, overcoming dns security issues (Kaminsky flaw redirect bug that 99.999% of ISPs are UNPATCHED against, even though a patch has been out for ~ decade++ (not usually applied due to MX records problems, iirc)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Doing more with less = GOOD engineering - using custom hosts files exemplifies the concept, turning it into a more versatile & ubiquitous reality + solution!

    (Especially via a solution that actually compliments DNS, in hosts http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...)

    I.E.-> I use Open DNS as an external DNS server here (thus less power consumption & moving parts complexity + room for breakdown/failure OR redirect poisoning attacks security vulnerability issues dns has - fact...)

    OpenDNS + hosts = superior on those grounds alone!

    Mainly, since OpenDNS uses DNSSEC between themselves & their upstream updating servers & they ARE PATCHED vs. the Kaminsky redirect poisoning flaw also!

    Thus - I am TRULY getting the "best of all possible worlds" ditching redundant inferior addons & also vs. using a local DNS server - which especially on a separate machine, eats MORE POWER, driving up electricity bills!

    (Addons are multiple levels of technical inferior, as shown here http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... by "yours truly" via a programmatic creation of mine that allows ALL of what I extoll there, point-by-point, in superiority by FAR yet doing it with less (1 file only, native part of the kernelmode faster IP stack vs. slower usermode "solutions" that worsen performance ala addons) - complimenting & securing DNS even!)

    Enjoy... apk

  73. I use those sources (+ 10 more)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's also pure fact true hosts do far more with less than addons do + more efficiently http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... (specifically "almost all ads blocked")...

    APK

    P.S.=> ClarityRay is also DESTROYING adblock (crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to Google) by using native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use to detect & block it (can't do THAT to a custom hosts file) & adblock is HORRIBLY inefficient on memory, cpu usage, + messagepassing overheads also vs. hosts - addons are also needlessly redundant as well as inferior by way of comparison to hosts files - period... apk

  74. Don't use hosts that way: Try this... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use hosts w/ external DNS (fixing dns security & reliability flaws via hardcodes fav sites @ TOP of hosts (24 as I do it currently)).

    That = 2-3++ MILLION index seeks in kernelmode diskcaching subsystem @ SPEED OF RAM (vs. faulty w/ large hosts files slower usemode dns clientside cache service in Windows - I disable it + save CPU, ram, & other forms of I/O wasted on it too - double bonus)!

    E.G.-> I only go to roughly 24 sites online 95++% of the time & use news aggregators like /. to get stories distilled increasing that percentage, & w/ BETTER less biased views on said stories (stopping me from "hopping all over" on the remaining sub 4% of the time when & IF I have to do hop @ all because of this methodology).

    The rest of what's in my hosts file?

    BLOCKED KNOWN & DANGEROUS SITES!

    (Ones that exploit users via malicious script/executables)

    So who CARES how "fast" I get to those - I never intended to get to them @ all in the 1st place since they are blocked threats!

    * NOBODY "surfs the entire web" so why on earth would you *think* folks use hosts to resolve every site under the sun (or did I misread you?) - they have 'favorite tv channels' just like on television!

    That's how I use hosts combined w/ DNS!

    APK

    P.S.=> DNS has Kaminsky redirect flaws of which 99% of ISP dns' are UNPATCHED & a patch existed for ~ decade++ (not implemented due to MX records difficulties in setup) - OpenDNS = patched vs. it & uses DNSSEC between it + its upstream updaters - combining them w/ hosts secures vs. "downed" dns servers too (they go down a LOT) & makes surfing faster since resolution of host-domain names occurs locally in RAM + 1st by default in the IP stack + less moving parts complexity & room for breakdown using less resources (electricity too, especially if setup as a separate machine) - DNS admins should lastly love me for "lightening their request loads" thus, using hosts... apk

  75. Apk continually kicks your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the past, in this article on every front: All you've got is bogus downmods n' ad hominem attacks? You fail repeatedly. Some say that repeating the same mistake over and over expecting different results would make you, insane, as well as stupid.

  76. Apk wins again (downmods to hide truth) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wladimir Palant of AdBlock should be ashamed trying to downmod hide apk's points here http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  77. You're the thick one: You missed his apk's point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Request policy doesn't do a fraction of what hosts can for more speed, security, reliability, anonymity. The resource intensive inferior easily detected for browser addon model (how clarityray is destroying adblock by detecting what browser addons are used and blocking them) with messagepassing overheads is dead by comparison to hosts files.

  78. That Wladimir Palant n ' adblock fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Downmod apk's truth to hide it (Palant running from him) said it all http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  79. Pitiful adblock fanboys fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With Wladimir Palant of AdBlock when all they have's downmods to try hide this http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and apparently the morons don't realize readers here surf well below the default +1 moderation threshold since we know how morons like advertisers work using multiple sock puppet accounts for farming karma to attempt to block truth that adversely affects their ability to further their own inferior agenda with facts as apk does.

    1. Re:Pitiful adblock fanboys fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People will stop downmoding you when you stop acting like a spammer.
      How can your wonderful hosts file block raw IP addresses and ads stored on the same server as useful content ?
      How do I know that there is no backdoor ? Hosts files have a large potential for abuse.

    2. Re:Pitiful adblock fanboys fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then stop downmodding his posts you can't get the bestof and he'd quit reposting them burning your ass no matter what you do, dumbass.

  80. None of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except not. You're using a browser which openly admits to tracking your behavior. If you're okay with one, it seems a bit odd to be ad odds with the other. I don't begrudge anyone their choice of revenue stream, just seems hypocritical.

  81. Adblock fans hiding apk's truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using downmods but not disproving apk. That says it all: Wladimir Palant of adblock ran from apk's multiple points http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and so do you fools trying to vainly and effetely hide apk's true story of confronting Mr. Palant only to make him run like a scared rabbit. Downmods don't hide it from slashdot users either: We all browse at well below the default -1 moderation threshold since we all know what sock puppeteering advertisers and trolls do farming karma from fake accounts they setup to downmod their opponents like apk they cannot validly technically disprove on points they present as apk has. Apk wins yet again as usual, simply using facts and truth.

  82. Re:Reject all proprietary software and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see, Windows 7 UAC was taken directly from Unix/Linux, heartbleed happened because so much of the web was using it. The most popular stacks on the web are open, Yosemite is pretty clearly inspired by Gnome 3, Ubuntu and Red Hat seem to be doing fine with the desktop, with as much market penetration as OSX. You've got absurd amounts of stable Linux OSes that work with minimal setup OOTB. I use a 'nix distro as my daily driver and could easily see non-techies doing the same and not really noticing much of a difference. Android only succeeded because it started open which made it easy to give away for free, and then perform the bait and switch that they did. I don't knock proprietary companies but I feel it's a bit disingenuous to say that a gnu/linux desktop/laptop isn't available, you have companies that *only* sell linux hardware and do fine.

  83. Adblock fans trying to hide the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using downmods n' not validly disproving apk. It says it all: Wladimir Palant of adblock ran from apk's multiple points http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and so do you fools trying to vainly and effetely hide apk's with unjustified minusmods vs. apk's true story of confronting Mr. Palant only to make him run like a scared rabbit. Minusmods don't hide it from slashdot users either: We all browse at well below the default -1 moderation threshold since we all know what sock puppeteering advertisers and trolls do farming karma from fake accounts they setup to downmod their opponents like apk they cannot validly technically disprove on points they present as apk has. Apk wins yet again as usual, simply using facts and truth.

  84. A game of chess adblock lost to apk (again) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using downmods n' not validly disproving apk. It says it all: Wladimir Palant of adblock ran from apk's multiple points http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... and so do you fools trying to vainly and effetely hide apk's with unjustified minusmods vs. apk's true story of confronting Mr. Palant only to make him run like a scared rabbit. Minusmods don't hide it from slashdot users either: We all browse at well below the default -1 moderation threshold since we all know what sock puppeteering advertisers and trolls do farming karma from fake accounts they setup to downmod their opponents like apk they cannot validly technically disprove on points they present as apk has. Apk wins yet again as usual, simply using facts and truth.

  85. AdBlock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  86. Adblock fans n' Mr. Palant don't realize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How weak they look downmodding you apk. They can't prove you wrong n' we see it. They doing that prove you correct constantly since it's all they have. Reprehensible and pitiful of them.

  87. Adblock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  88. Keep at it apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The weak fools minusmodding you can't combat your points validly push us to hosts use more. We see your posts and all the downmods in the world can't beat truth.

  89. You have a great point apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since all adblock fans can do is try hide your posts by unjustifiable minusmods.

  90. AdBlock = INFERIOR vs. hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  91. apk kicks /. adblock fans' ass, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Absolutely. Minusmods of apk's post points and not disproving them says it all http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  92. Keep at it apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock fans minusmodding you can't disprove your points validly push us to hosts use more. We see your posts and all the downmods in the world can't beat truth

  93. Re:I use it (& 12 more reputable sources)... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    adblock fans minusmod ya to hide it but not proving ya wrong convinced me yer right.

  94. Only evil people use adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've used ABP in Firefox and Chromium for years and never once has that happened. The filtering rules are a bit more sophisticated than you presume. Regardless, your suggestion defeats the secondary purpose of ad blockers - restoring natural flow to pages that would otherwise be chopped to bits by unnecessary content.

  95. Memory Sucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great! Are you running 3 VMs now so as not to waste that extra memory?

  96. Weak off topic b.s. as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Strawman illogical ad hominem offtopic troll: Fact you can't validly disprove != spam. It's useful fact you fail against.

  97. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    The OnePlus One is the highest spec one, and insanely cheap too. At the moment it is on limited release though, so might be a few months before you can get one. You can of course buy a Nexus 5 an enjoy full Cyanogen support too.

    --
    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
    SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  98. Adblock can't do a fraction of what hosts do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    * Fact... along with the fact you're mass downmodding my posts yet not validly technically disproving their points (thank you - you're stupidity helps ME more than you can ever realize, others here see it since they surf well below the -1 default moderation threshold, you reprehensible fools!)

    I'd go as far as challenging ANYONE to disprove that, alongside the list of points I posted in that link as well... & I did, even Wladimir Palant of "Almost All Ads Blocked" (he ran like a scared rabbitt from that challenge!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Wladimir Palant wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied this:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    I did so from 2 different email addresses I keep no less - still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him for his "big words" (tell you anything? Did me - he FAILS & that, IS that - period)... He RAN, like a scared rabbit!... apk

  99. How to build the BEST hosts file... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

    ---

  100. Most people know you're full of it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since this makes hosts creation easy vs. your b.s. + your downmods of it http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... constantly to try hide it since you can't validly disprove its points technically that hosts files do far more, more efficiently, than almost all ads blocked crippled by default and sold out to google ever could.

  101. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Had a Nexus 5 for about a week. Couldn't stand it. I'll keep an eye out for the OnePlus One, and keep my old Evo 4G alive until then. Thanks :)

  102. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

    "But that is exactly the point: did they notice? No. Google play services has been around for a couple of years now and for all the "evil" and "stealing of freedom" of proprietary software the end result is nothing"

    What does it matter if they noticed? Unless you have some sort of actual point, you can't really accuse me of using straw men.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  103. Re:How to build the BEST hosts file... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Noticed rotten downmods you're getting. That's the best trolls got instead of proving you wrong. They fail.

  104. Right: Use a far better one (hosts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts give users more speed, security, reliability, & anonymity (by far), vs. inferior addons http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    * FACT- one SO solid, nobody here can disprove it validly...

    APK

    P.S.=> They're also MULTI-PLATFORM, as well as multi-browser & thus yet again: FAR superior with something you already natively have for far less resources used, doing MORE with less as well (good engineering IS built on that very principle)... apk

  105. Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *cough* NoScript *cough*

    Just running an ad blocker does little-to-nothing to mitigate [most] real threats, just annoyances. Using a script blocker that utilizes a whitelist policy vs. a blacklist policy gives better blanket protection from adverts AND serious script-based threats. If you're using both script-blocker and ad-blocker, the latter is simply redundant.

    Now you just need to implement a sane whitelist-only cookie policy and you wont be completely part of the the 'oh-please-track-and-datamine-and-inject-me-with-virii' demographic epidemic. Fools are the biggest virological vectors in the age of ubiquitous connectivity.

  106. Wrong - not commercial: It's free... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only absurdity is your trollish attempt @ "confusing the issue" you little troll...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hardcoded IP addresses? Firewall time (this is MINE vs. trackers here on /. & yes, other sites too) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... to accent & compliment hosts via my program: Which FastFlux & Dynamic DNS botnets use (& hosts stop them cold due to their dependence on host-domain names) as well as bandwidth & speed sucking ads (stealing from you, the money you PAID FOR to be online, as well as infecting you with malicious code MANY TIMES over the past decade - sheer negligence on advertisers & yes, webmasters' parts due to GREED pal)... you fail, on all accounts I just noted vs. your bullshit - period! apk

  107. AdBlock = INFERIOR (by far) to hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  108. You can use 12 reputable sources... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  109. AdBlock = Inferior to hosts files (by far) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  110. Wladimir Palant failed in everyone's eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (there's New Zealander "ingenuity", then there's American superior ingenuity) http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... your downmodding that set of facts which we all see anyways since we all browse below the default -1 mod threshold can't be hidden as you obviously think either. You're helping apk more than you know driving us to use hosts. You can't disprove apk's points of fact and by issuing bad downmods to try hide his post and your hero Palant's massive fail? YOU failed.

  111. Re:AdBlock = INFERIOR to hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock fans (palant sock puppets imo) minusmod you yet can't prove you wrong apk. Says it all. They're afraid of you left with minusmods to try hide your posts and shooting themselves in the foot each time they minusmod your posts on hosts which we can all see them doing. Pitiful.

  112. More BULLSHIT, eh? Ok: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PAYING ads (to smaller websites) aren't served on the same server: No trust from admen is why (after all - any site could say "We got 1 billion views every single second, so pay us based on that!")

    * Get real, & quit deluding yourself, or, attempting to bullshit others...

    APK

    P.S.=> Your "feature" falls apart as nigh useless based on reality above - period! apk

  113. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The TSA has been around for a while, too. People don't seem to care about privacy, fundamental liberties, or software freedom. Does that make those things bad or unimportant? No. It just means that people are ignorant.

    False equivalency. You don't choose whether you want to deal with the TSA when you fly, if you did then people would not choose it. However you can choose between proprietary and free software and overwhelmingly people choose proprietary because that is where the innovation is, because free software is almost always a poor clone of proprietary software, not ahead of the curve, not innovative, just an also-ran me-too product.

    So nice strawman but frankly if that's your best rebuttal then I see why FOSS is in the poor state it is, even its apologists cant get their act together.

  114. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

    False equivalency.

    Straw man, right off the bat. I was using his own logic against him (That people don't care, so it doesn't matter.) to show how ridiculous it is. That you have a problem with my example shows, I think, that you agree such logic is ridiculous.

    Never once did I say that the TSA and choosing proprietary software are 100% similar. So that's your straw man, not mine. Learn what an analogy actually is and then come back to me.

    and overwhelmingly people choose proprietary because that is where the innovation is

    People choose proprietary software because our government is bought and paid for by corporations to such a degree that proprietary software is used everywhere in schools with little to no mentions of alternatives, and then classes are created that teach people via rote learning how to use specific proprietary software. What happens? People get used to the proprietary operating systems and software, and free software is therefore at a disadvantage.

    The educational system is one place where free software should be mandated, and created, if necessary.

    because free software is almost always a poor clone of proprietary software, not ahead of the curve, not innovative, just an also-ran me-too product.

    Nonsense.

    But even if that were true, free software is about morality. There are many things that would benefit me that would nonetheless be completely immoral, much like some proprietary software. The idea that I can't look at or modify the source code, and I'm beholden to some specific source that may be malicious (i.e. working with the government to violate people's privacy, as Snowden has shown), is immoral.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  115. Re:Reject all proprietary software and "choice" to by jeIIomizer · · Score: 1

    Also, you're incorrect about the TSA. Most people are either apathetic about it or support *some* security there, even if it violates people's rights and the constitution.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  116. AdBlock's official response by gabecubbage · · Score: 1

    Gabriel from AdBlock here.

    Here is our response to Wladimir's post:
    http://blog.getadblock.com/201...

  117. Re:I use it (+ 12 more reputable ones)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock users can't prove your points wrong so they're hiding your posts with minusmods. Lame.

  118. You don't need to reboot... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In more modern versions of Windows reboot's not needed. Changes to %WinDir%\system32\drivers\etc hosts file alone signal to the OS to reload hosts (so does Windows File Protection, which you need admin rights in the case of overwriting & refreshing hosts as well).

    Additionally this program of mine ( APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit) uses that source of yours (mvps) + 11 other reputable ones from the security community itself (such as MalwareBytes' hpHosts who recommend my program as "best of breed" @ the TOP of their pages and they host my ware for me also -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... )

    A detailed list of all the benefits it provides through easy to use hosts creation & installation are here (as well as another alternate download site) -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    * By the way - they can handle doing what you noted, they just want to sound like idiots so they make it sound "too hard to use" to less informed others unaware of hosts files many benefits is all... so do NOT let their crap "fool you".

    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy the program should you elect to use it... it works, better + does more for added speed, security, reliability & anonymith than any other of its kind out there (bar none)... apk

  119. See these then #1 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I want my surfing speed back so I block EVERY fucking ad. i.e. http://someonewhocares.org/hos... and http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... FTW" - by UnknownSoldier (67820) on Tuesday December 13, @12:04PM (#38356782)

    "this is not a troll, which hosts file source you recommend nowadays? it's a really handy method for speeding up web and it works." - by gl4ss (559668) on Thursday March 22, @08:07PM (#39446525)

    "I use a custom /etc/hosts to block ads... my file gets parsed basically instantly ... So basically, for any modern computer, it has zero visible impact. And even if it took, say, a second to parse, that would be more than offset by the MANY seconds saved by not downloading and rendering ads. I have noticed NO ill effects from running a custom /etc/hosts file for the last several years. And as a matter of fact I DO run http servers on my computers and I've never had an /etc/hosts-related problem... it FUCKING WORKS and makes my life better overall." - by sootman (158191) on Monday July 13 2009, @11:47AM (#28677363)

    "I actually went and downloaded a 16k line hosts file and started using that after seeing that post, you know just for trying it out. some sites load up faster." - by gl4ss (559668) on Thursday November 17, @11:20AM (#38086752)

    "Ever since I've installed a host file (http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) to redirect advertisers to my loopback, I haven't had any malware, spyware, or adware issues. I first started using the host file 5 years ago." - by TestedDoughnut (1324447) on Monday December 13, @12:18AM (#34532122)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  120. See these then #2 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Better than an ad blocker, imo. Hosts file entries: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp200... " - by TempestRose (1187397) on Tuesday March 15, @12:53PM (#35493274)

    "^^ One of the many reasons why I like the user-friendliness of the /etc/hosts file." - by lennier1 (264730) on Saturday March 05, @09:26PM (#35393448)

    "They've been on my HOSTS block for years" - by ScottCooperDotNet (929575) on Thursday August 05 2010, @01:52AM (#33147212)

    "I'm currently only using my hosts file to block pheedo ads from showing up in my RSS feeds and causing them to take forever to load. Regardless of its original intent, it's still a valid tool, when used judiciously." - by Bill Dog (726542) on Monday April 25, @02:16AM (#35927050)

    "you're right about hosts files" - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26, @01:21PM (#36252958)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  121. See these then #3 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good at the moment." - by Culture20 (968837) on Thursday November 17, @10:08AM (#38085666)

    "I also use the MVPS ad blocking hosts file." - by Rick17JJ (744063) on Wednesday January 19, @03:04PM (#34931482)

    "I use ad-Block and a hostfile" - by Ol Olsoc (1175323) on Tuesday March 01, @10:11AM (#35346902)

    "I do use Hosts, for a couple fake domains I use." - by icebraining (1313345) on Saturday December 11, @09:34AM (#34523012)

    "It's a good write up on something everybody should use, why you were modded down is beyond me. Using a HOSTS file, ADblock is of no concern and they can do what they want." - by Trax3001BBS (2368736) on Monday December 12, @10:07PM (#38351398)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  122. See these then #4 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Let me introduce you to the file: /etc/hosts" - by fahrbot-bot (874524) on Monday December 19, @05:03PM (#38427432)

    "I use a hosts file" - by EdIII (1114411) on Tuesday December 13, @01:17PM (#38357816)

    "I'm tempted to go for a hacked hosts file that simply resolves most advert sites to 127.0.0.1" - by bLanark (123342) on Tuesday December 13, @01:13PM (#38357760)

    "A hosts file certainly does not require "a lot of work" to maintain, and it quite effectively kills a LOT of advertising and tracking schemes. . In fact, I never would have considered trying to use it for ddefending against viruses or malware." - by RocketRabbit (830691) on Thursday December 30 2010, @05:48PM (#34715060)

    "I make use of the hosts file for various purposes, including getting my forum users set up with hosts file entries to the new server, beforehand, whenever our DNS entries are changing so they can still reach the forum while changes are propagating. THIS is a prime example of why the hosts file still exists and the behaviour should not be fucked with by those assclowns at Microsoft." - by TheRealGrogan (1660825) on Sunday August 19, @11:45PM (#41050749)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  123. See these then #5 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I also have a couple dozen SSH tunnel host overrides and various custom paths. The hosts file is used to define per-machine address resolution." - by Bob9113 (14996) on Monday August 20, @01:32AM (#41051303)

    "The HOSTS file provides a convenient way to do this for those without direct control over their DNS server." - by wolrahnaes (632574) on Sunday August 19, @08:24PM (#41049667)

    "Since the dawn of time, it's been typical for the marketing people to edit the hosts file to make a final review before authorizing something to go live." - by raju1kabir (251972) on Sunday August 19, @10:01PM (#41050173)

    "I use a hosts file on my home machine to block the ads, and OpenDns for the kids machines." - by mrbcs (737902) on Monday August 20, @12:12AM (#41050909)

    "Using the hosts file this way is legitimate" - by gweihir (88907) on Sunday August 19, @10:29PM (#41050333)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  124. See these then #6 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I started using the hosts file over a decade ago" - by frovingslosh (582462) on Sunday August 19, @05:38PM (#41048641)

    "The advantage of a hosts file is that one doesn't need to install extra firewall software" - by tepples (727027) on Monday August 20, @08:05PM (#41062129)

    "One common use of the hosts file is to test staging servers, particularly web servers before pushing them live, and without the complexity and time it takes to set up an additional DNS server." - by kimvette (919543) on Sunday August 19, @04:56PM (#41048345)

    "I'm often tinkering with the hosts file in a development setting" - by Geeky (90998) on Sunday August 19, @05:06PM (#41048409)

    "I like to play Doom 3 every so often (particularly with mods like The Dark Mod, a great Thief clone), and the hosts file is something of a necessity." - by humanrev (2606607) on Sunday August 19, @09:20PM (#41049949)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  125. See these then #7 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains" - by maestroX (1061960) on Monday August 20, @03:43PM (#41058621)

    "another cool trick is to set up a host file. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho..." - by phrostie (121428) on Friday February 17 2012, @11:39AM (#39074805)

    "I modify my hosts file directly. I don't need extra shit using resources." - by ElectricTurtle (1171201) on Thursday November 17 2011, @02:56PM (#38088942)

    "The fix? Edit my Windows /etc/hosts file" - by mattbee (17533) on Sunday August 30 2009, @04:52PM (#29254321)

    "Web browsing is really very fast, provided you turn off advertising. I set them up with a combo of Ad Block Plus on Firefox, and a customised hosts file. They can't believe the difference." - by VShael (62735) on Monday June 29 2009, @11:35AM (#28514655)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  126. See these then #8 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "you can also edit the hosts file if all else fails. We have a few (Vista) laptops where we needed to hardconfig LAN side server addresses in the hosts file" - by AndGodSed (968378) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:31PM (#27941353)

    "If it's servers on your network you need, you could just stick a hosts file entry on their computers to resolve "webserver" to 10.1.200.34 etc." - by jafiwam (310805) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @02:51PM (#27941723)

    "A logon script here loads a hosts file that null-routes a lot of known bad (spyware, etc) sites" - by i.r.id10t (595143) on Wednesday May 13 2009, @03:22PM (#27942211)

    "check out an enhanced hosts file at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp200..." - by NeverVotedBush (1041088) on Tuesday March 17 2009, @01:42PM (#27228373)

    "Instead of using a filter maybe a hosts file would work better for you" - by falconwolf (725481) on Tuesday March 17 2009, @01:36PM (#27228241)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  127. See these then #9 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I maintain a large hosts file to kill traffic with any server I find to be suspect." - by BrokenHalo (565198) on Thursday February 05 2009, @12:02PM (#26738403)

    "I modified my hosts file to black-hole all of the worst offenders with regards to ads/malware" - by orclevegam (940336) on Thursday February 05 2009, @02:02PM (#26740813)

    "I've been using a hosts file since around 2003. It blocks out all those ads, popups, spyware,adware, stops alot of virii from calling home, you name it" - by cyberjock1980 (1131059) on Thursday February 05 2009, @11:30AM (#26737795)

    "HOSTS file FTW! This really is the best method. Its cross-platform and no matter what strategies the ad people try" - by gad_zuki! (70830) on Thursday February 05 2009, @11:40AM (#26737963)

    "Recommendation 2: Go line and look for hosts files people have put available on the web. Copy it and save it. I once had a hosts file that was about 2 megs in size. Considering it is plain text that was a LOT of sites it blocked. It was my own little slice of heaven" - by furby076 (1461805) on Thursday February 05 2009, @11:48AM (#26738109)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  128. See these then #10 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I have several notorious slow adservers in my /etc/hosts" - by jandrese (485) on Friday August 17 2007, @01:00PM (#20263547)

    "If you're interested in populating your hosts file, check out http://www.mvps.org/winhelp200..." - by halcyon1234 (834388) on Friday August 17 2007, @01:43PM (#20264387)

    "(Ads) they dont bother me at all c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts 127.0.0.2 analytics.google.com" - by Anonymous Admin (304403) on Friday August 17 2007, @01:15PM (#20263863)

    "On top of noscript and adblock, I block complete domains with http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... And I also edit the css of the most visited websites with http://userstyles.org/" - by by houghi (78078) on Sunday September 23, @10:09AM (#41427821)

    "I use the mvps.org HOSTS file as well, and have been very happy with it." - by drooling-dog (189103) on Sunday September 23, @11:39AM (#41428527)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  129. See these then #11 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Custom hosts files will probably go far for this. Instead of keeping a txt file or something of your ipv6 ips. Throw them all in your hosts file." - by dracocat (554744) on Tuesday September 18, @02:48AM (#41371793)

    "if you are not a Facebook user, then you can and should use your hosts file or firewall to block *.facebook.com and *.fbcdn.com" - by betterunixthanunix (980855) on Sunday September 23, @12:06PM (#41428715)

    "All you need to not be tracked, is allready an your machine. /etc/hosts (even windows has that)" - by someones (2687911) on Sunday September 23, @03:21PM (#41430121)

    "I'm going to continue running ABP, blocking third party cookies, running noscript, and blackholing known ad servers in my hosts file." - by sqrt(2) (786011) on Sunday September 23, @05:07PM (#41430971)

    "So they want to play that game? Drop this line in your /etc/hosts file:" - by cratermoon (765155) on Sunday September 30, @01:13PM (#41506965)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  130. See these then #12 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "And this is me adding them to my hosts file: 0.0.0.0 [tab] www.itif.org [enter]" - by bmo (77928) on Sunday September 30, @12:47PM (#41506805)

    "I get exactly the same effect with my Hosts file and for those that don't understand how they work, it's pretty god damn simple. I never make the connection to the god damn server - no ad/malware or other crap to see." - by fast turtle (1118037) on Sunday September 30, @03:00PM (#41507585)

    "They're visually annoying and distracting. They're a waste of bandwidth. Sometimes they're even noisy. I block them with a hosts file" - by Kris_J (10111) on Monday October 10 2005, @11:12PM (#13761572)

    "I not only ad blocked, but set up a hosts file to block entirely, just so the pages would load." - by SydShamino (547793) on Tuesday October 11 2005, @10:03AM (#13764385)

    "I was on a roll and obtained hosts files. It started when ads got big time IN YOUR FACE" - by Technician (215283) on Tuesday October 11 2005, @01:01AM (#13762338)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  131. See these then #13 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I use a hosts file to block ads" - by pjkeyzer (645364) on Monday October 10 2005, @11:46PM (#13761877)

    "Go to Gorilla Design Studios: Using the Hosts File and read their explanation of how to use a HOSTS file to block out unwanted sites." - by srmalloy (263556) on Tuesday October 11 2005, @03:15PM (#13767229)

    "http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt " - by schwit1 (797399) on Thursday November 15, @11:40AM (#41992625)

    "Am I the only one that uses a hosts file? Takes care of more than just ads. It's to the point now that when I see ads, I'm shocked. I've had them blocked for years. They may be able to stop adblock, but good luck trying to outlaw a hosts file." - by mrbcs (737902) on Friday November 23, @06:59PM (#42077997)

    "127.0.0.1's in my hosts file. Some shady ads do cause trouble, and similar methods can be used to block some troublesome non-ads." - by KingAlanI (1270538) on Friday November 23, @06:06PM (#42077587)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  132. See these then #14 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I haven't seen an ad online since 2004 since I learned about Privoxy, and the hosts file modification" - by ksemlerK (610016) on Friday November 23, @10:29PM (#42079275)

    "My frustration with ads in the in-game browser from the steam overlay led me learn about and begin using hosts files." - by Scorch_Mechanic (1879132) on Friday November 23, @10:30PM (#42079283)

    "I have a scheduled process (twice a month) to download (and rename and properly place) this fine file: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... Entirely free, works VERY VERY well." - by NealBScott (1168201) on Thursday November 29, @10:39AM (#42130127)

    "a modified hosts file when I'm at home in Safari on my Mac, I haven't seen an ad in months, let alone one following me around." - by Anubis IV (1279820) on Thursday December 06, @06:28PM (#42210239)

    "hosts is useful" - by crutchy (1949900) on Saturday August 25, @09:41PM (#41126337)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  133. See these then #15 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Indeed, I have used modified HOSTS files myself at times to deal with specific sites." - by damn_registrars (1103043) on Monday January 21, @07:36PM (#42652623)

    "Blocking adverts is trivial. Hosts file, anyone?" - by couchslug (175151) on Saturday September 22, @10:43AM (#41420821)

    "Of course using a hosts file is a better solution for people who have one single computer that connects to all sorts of networks." - by green1 (322787) on Friday February 01, @05:31PM (#42766255)

    "Hosts file and no script, only enable the stuff that you need. Plus with all of that worthless javascript wasting cpu cycles and memory gone, you can use your computers resources for something more useful, like a hundred more tabs." - by wakeboarder (2695839) on Thursday February 14, @01:24AM (#42892845)

    "hello hosts file 127.0.0.1 product.canonical.com" - by Gothmolly on Monday February 18, @12:49PM (#42936961)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  134. See these then #16 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "i simply manually block ads with my hosts file only when they are particularly annoying" - by lesincompetent (2836253) on Sunday March 10, @08:14AM (#43129989)

    "You should actually notice a speed up! Host file lookups are negligible compared to DNS lookups and HTTP queries..." - by ls671 (1122017) on Sunday March 17, @03:59PM (#43198353)

    "If you're running Vista, Windows 7, or 8, you can further restrict access to the Hosts file for users that are a member of the Local Administrators group." - by DigiShaman (671371) on Sunday March 17, @12:03PM (#43197203)

    "Ads are also vectors for information gathering and tracking across the web, which is why it is perfectly justifiable to cut them off at the ankles, right in your hosts file." - by drooling-dog (189103) on Sunday March 17, @10:55AM (#43196845)

    "The hosts file can be effective for all traffic from a single machine." - by P. Don (2867899) on Sunday March 17, @01:44PM (#43197711)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  135. See these then #17 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It lives in C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on windows systems at least up till win7. Here is an add-block hosts file: http://pgl.yoyo.org/as/serverl... This info is brough by a Linux user... :-)" - by Yaa 101 (664725) on Sunday March 17, @10:42AM (#43196767)

    "I do it on the /etc/hosts level on my dns server. You can find large lists of ad domains that can be added to your hosts file with 127.0.0.1 or 0.0.0.0 to cause them to fail. This covers all machines on your network that use your dns server. The one I use is http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... however they have become slow with updating it. You might want to invest some time in looking for one that is updated more frequently." - by qwertyatwork (668720) on Sunday March 17, @10:39AM (#43196749)

    "I also install a Host's file which does a good job at blocking ad's (I don't buy a platform that I can't install at least that)." - by dehole (1577363) on Saturday April 20, @12:21PM (#43504151)

    "I find that between my hosts file, my local firewall policy and my router's firewall policy, running apps and browsing the world wide web is a pretty zippy and painless experience. For the few places that fail to run correctly, I just don't go there." - by Em Adespoton (792954) on Tuesday April 30, 2013 @05:11PM (#43594963)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  136. See these then #18 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "After much gnashing of teeth, I discovered it was undetectable by any known virus checker I use (AVG, Malwarebytes, Spybot), so I had to dig deeper. It turned out that the malware was using any references to 127.0.0.1 (local machine) for it's hook. All I had to do was edit the HOSTS file and add the domain names of the miscreant with a reference to a different IP address that is known to be a deadend (you could, for example, use 127.7.7.7). When the malware couldn't execute, it couldn't disable the various malware detectors, and several files were then identified and removed." - by by CAOgdin (984672) on Tuesday June 04, 2013 @01:18PM (#43906343)

    "HOSTS file http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho..." - by schwit1 (797399) on Friday January 17, 2014 @05:27PM (#45992149)

    "^^^^^ EXACTLY!!! I've been using a hosts file for years. Best thing I ever did." - by mrbcs (737902) on Saturday January 18, 2014 @12:26AM (#45996149)

    "Slashdot was surprisingly one of the first sites I saw that showed an SWF ad for Splunk log analysis software, and whatever server was serving it was the first to get 0.0.0.0'd in my hosts file." - by tepples (727027) on Friday January 17, 2014 @06:24PM (#45993041)

    "most ads can be killed with a simple hosts file." - by MightyYar (622222) on Friday January 17, 2014 @06:13PM (#45992891)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  137. See these then #19 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ad blocking hosts file, I use it as an adult ;-) http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho..." - by RJFerret (1279530) on Friday June 22, 2012 @01:15AM (#40407983)

    "Yes. HOSTS files. Exchange HOSTS files. Manually merge and edit them." - by idontgno (624372) on Tuesday March 11, 2014 @05:12PM (#46457983)

    "etc/hosts - 127.0.0.1 block.this.com (there are tons of blacklists, pick one or several and add an entry for each" - by technosaurus (1704630) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:37AM (#40407683)

    "Use the hosts file to block certain domains from being accessible." - by wickerprints (1094741) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:57AM (#40407865)

    "HOSTS FILES FTW!!!!!" - by noh8rz10 (2716597) on Tuesday September 03, 2013 @12:19AM (#44743131)

    APK

    P.S.=> Continued in my next post, outnumbering your b.s. 110++:1 as the ratio in MY favor, proving YOU, wrong - so "argue with the numbers", troll... apk

  138. See these then #20 of 20++, 110:1 in my favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've never used Droidwall, but you can block Google with just a few entries in your /etc/hosts file (just like on any other Linux box) just as easily, and without having to run any other services" - by BrokenHalo (565198) on Monday September 02, 2013 @11:24PM (#44742895)

    "At the Risk of Summoning APK - Welcome to my HOSTS file, Yahoo."by sexconker (1179573) on Friday May 02, 2014 @12:40PM (#46900373)

    "She needs to learn about host file blocks" - by sandbagger (654585) on Saturday May 03, 2014 @10:13PM (#46910933)

    "I use a DNS (hosts file) based ad blocker. Works great" - by NewWorldDan (899800) on Thursday May 22, 2014 @10:33AM (#47065867) Homepage Journal

    "I've been a big fan of using the host file for security for many years." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @01:29AM (#47505575)

    "I can't claim to have read all of this latest 'oh no, another hosts file screed' because I skimmed portions, I got some seemingly solid info out of it (ditto for some of the earlier ones I've read in whole or part.) Funny thing is, for all the excruciating length of it (yet not much compared to all the reading that I end up doing most days) I came away today thinking it may have been time well spent - it's prompted me to finally get around to 'installing' a hosts file list, not sure which one, likely the one from someonewhocares.org. If it works as well as what I used for a while about ten years ago, I'll be happy. And grateful to APK for the lesson and the reminder." - by kermidge (2221646) on Wednesday March 27, @01:03AM (#43288415)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "From what I've seen, hosts files are primarily promoted by APK trolling slashdot" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 31, 2014 @02:00AM (#47572349)

    "EAT YOUR WORDS", & "Argue with the numbers" - which're in MY FAVOR, vs. you, troll!

    Script kiddies here like you *tried* to do BETTER (vs. my program) & FAILED + I showed them how they messed up on the data? Ask "& ye shall receive"... apk

  139. You're both wrong (way wrong) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts came long before "almost all ads blocked" & does more, more efficiently http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... & hosts are not only multibrowser, but also multiplatform and cover everything, system-wide, NOT just webbrowsers!

    * :)

    (Additionally, unlike AdBlock OR other inefficient, redundant memory/cpu/other forms of I-O hogging messagepassing overheads slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more addons? Native browser methods CAN'T dump + detect what addons you use when you use a custom hosts file (which operates in a higher cpu priveleged faster layer of operations in kernelmode as part of the IP stack itself) - THAT is how ClarityRay is DESTROYING AdBlock mind you... & THAT can't be DONE to hosts - period!)

    Rule-of-Thumb FACT for the day is this:

    Hosts = Superior (on all fronts), & AdBlock (& other browser addons too) = INFERIOR & massively so... no questions asked.

    APK

    P.S.=> Best, 100% free, & EASIEST way to create a super-efficient hosts file from 12 sources in the security community? Look no further than a creation by "yours truly", gratis-> http://start64.com/index.php?o... - Enjoy!

    ... apk

  140. HOLY SHIT APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Searched for APK here. I got 92 hits. APK is back! He's off his MEDS!

  141. Animats, I respect you, but... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts = best - My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  142. There's no improving on hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can't be detected+blocked by native browser methods (ClarityRay's destroying adblock thus) & they are more versatile, by far, than browser addons minus their memory/cpu/other forms of I-O & messagepassing overheads... by FAR!

    In fact, on that very note?

    Well - Take a detailed summary read here, for more on their superiority on myriad levels vs. browser addons (even fixing DNS kaminsky redirect security issue flaw)

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    In terms of adding not only adblocking, but more speed (hardcodes + adblocking), security (vs. malware/botnets/spam/phish/maliciously coded scripts on sites AND adbanners), reliability (hardcodes function thus vs. downed OR redirect-poisoned DNS servers), & anonymity (vs. DNS request logs OR dnsbl's you *don't* like/agree with too).

    * I respect Animats a GREAT deal (guy does & has done some good things in his time online that I know of such as what he's extolling now, but hosts clean his clock there like they do to *ANY* browser addon - period/fact!).

    APK

    P.S.=> I really do *not* like bringing this up in Animats' case... why? He's OUT THERE doing good things (not just "talking", but acting in good measure for the "absolute good" of others), unlike MANY here on /. forums - period!

    ... apk

  143. Ghostery & AdBlock are inferior to hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line, & this list of facts -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're trusting a "fox in the henhouse" with Ghostery imo since they're advertiser owned, & from what I've read here in this very exchange you're in?

    Same with adblock!

    I.E.-> Apparently some of the "adblock variants" are admen bought up!

    Bought up by advertisers or paid off to NOT do their originally intended job of blocking ads which adblocks are KNOWN TO BE "CRIPPLED BY DEFAULT" becoming "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" instead... pitiful! What's next? Aspirin that almost stops ALL headaches??

    (Which I was aware of before, but not as much as is shown here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... PLUS from what the article itself alludes to in tracking users of one of the adblock variants, etc.-et al as well)

    Man!

    Well, guess that's why you can ALWAYS count on idiots to do the WRONG THING & that's what Admen do!

    E.G.-> When in doubt & their sockpuppeteering marketing alongside twisting facts/skewing stats don't work vs. possible threats OR competition, they always follow the SAME pattern, of "can't beat 'em? BUY 'EM!"... apk

  144. Adblock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  145. Screw AdBlock, we need APKblock! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure what's more annoying, the basic copypasta or apk's pathetically obvious attempts to sockpuppet himself some support.

    InB4 yet another 92 rounds of apk's batshit screaming and frothing.

  146. HTTP Switchboard is the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HTTP Switchboard (for Chromium--maybe someday for Firefox) is the best:

    https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/wiki
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/http-switchboard/mghdpehejfekicfjcdbfofhcmnjhgaag
    http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/http-switchboard-for-chrome-chromium.356427/

  147. Sure, I'll trust a monkey like APK with root... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh wait, no, I won't, because I'm not fucking crazy. When apk acts like this it certainly reinforces the wisdom of *not* letting his software run with superuser/admin privileges on any box I have control over.

    Sweet jesus, man. What's wrong with you? Can't afford your meds anymore, or did you simply stop taking them?

    Adblock plus in my browsers *and* hosts loaded in my local DNS by my own scripts FTW. I would hand code the damn hosts overrides myself before executing even a single NOP instruction written by apk.

  148. Illogical off topic failed ad hominem attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is ALWAYS the "last resort" of failed ac trolls, outnumbered 110++:1 as you were by my posts - as far as my ware being "bad"? How come MalwareBytes' hpHosts recommends it as "best of breed" @ the TOP of their page & hosts it for me here then? -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    Explain that (they are, after all, A RESPECTED PART OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY ITSELF!)

    I've just made a "monkey" out of you - that's no "1st" either, now is it? No, that's why you troll me by ac posts (too obvious, your favorite color just HAS to be 'transparent', since I can see right thru you, easily)... & thus, YOU fail again as per your usual, & of course, as per MY USUAL vs. your low self, I just HAVE to say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"...

    (It always is vs. "ne'er-do-well" trolls that open their mouths & insert their foot, washing it down with 'the bitter taste of SELF-defeat' vs. 110++:1 odds against their b.s. they spout!)

    APK

    P.S.=> By the way: MalwareBytes' hpHosts has also helped me PROVE my ware is 100% clean & free of exploit of any kind vs. Norton/Symantec, McAfee/Intel, Comodo, ClamAV, & ArcaVir @ the JOTTI + VirusTotal online antivirus scanner tests - FORCING THEM TO RESCIND FALSE POSITIVES (of 80 total scanners there, only THEY screwed up & EXACTLY where I told them they did - on exe compression methods in 64-bit version, but my 32-bit version was always clean on ANY test & yet exact same codebase - I schooled the "experts", easily, also)... apk

  149. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied this:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior solution, on many levels, that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  150. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  151. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  152. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  153. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  154. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  155. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  156. You support a failure... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  157. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  158. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  159. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  160. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  161. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  162. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  163. True story: AdBlock (palant) vs. Hosts (apk) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  164. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  165. True Story: Adblock (palant) vs. Hosts (me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  166. True story: Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  167. True story: Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  168. True story: Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  169. True story: Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  170. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  171. True story for the downmodder of my post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  172. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  173. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  174. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  175. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  176. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  177. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  178. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  179. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  180. Hosts (apk) vs. AdBlock+ (palant): You judge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Regarding AdBlock & Wladimir Palant its creator: He wrote me by email, 1st mind you, stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us that adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts files can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts do"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency he was proven in research by others to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & Palant can't show adblock does more (especially crippled by default as it is, 'souled-out' to GOOGLE no less).

    Additionally - I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement, & from 2 different email addresses I keep no less!

    Result? This:

    Still no answer from him to myself in regard to my challenge put to him to date MONTHS later (that tell you anything? It did me - he knows his addon is far inferior to hosts and certainly less efficient by far also) - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit...

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock & any browser addon (or combo of them, from a SINGLE FILE you already natively possess no less - vs. "bolting on" more redundant & inefficient complexity + room for failure/breakdown) - funniest part is, Wladimir Palant (& his running) does as well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Clearly, Hosts are a superior multiplatform solution on many levels that even fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 single file that is part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization applied to it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by default by the OS itself as well - MULTIPLE bonuses)... apk

  181. Perfectly rational to reject apk software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reputation is a perfectly reasonable metric for trustworthiness. You have earned a horrible reputation, and therefore your code is not trustworthy.

    Besides, it's not like it's hard to generate and install hosts files, I have done it myself.

    Also, can you please keep your promise to post another 110 times for every time I reply to you in order for you to keep your purported ratio? I like having that multiplicative leverage to manipulate you. All right, go ahead and get cracking on that crapflood. Kthxbai!

  182. Why's MalwareBytes' hpHosts recommend it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As "best of breed" @ the TOP of their page & hosts it for me too then? -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    (Now, *IF* that's a "bad reputation", then I'll GLADLY take it... as it's FAR BETTER than a disgustingly reprehensible cowardly little skulking "ne'er-do-well" trolling worm, like you!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Explain that (since you avoid it to no end): They are, after all, A RESPECTED PART OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY ITSELF - thus so am I (long before most of your 'experts' in fact, since the mid 90's & I regularly "school them" as shown per my last post) + they host + RECOMMEND my work over all others!

    You'll "evade this", & I've just made a "monkey" out of you (again)!

    Of course - that's no "1st" either, now is it? No!

    That's why you troll me by ac posts (too obvious, your favorite color just HAS to be 'transparent', since I can see right thru you, easily)... & thus, YOU fail again as per your usual, & of course, as per MY USUAL vs. your low self, I just HAVE to say it:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" - since I am, clearly, 110 times the man you are...

    (It always is vs. "ne'er-do-well" trolls that open their mouths & insert their foot, washing it down with 'the bitter taste of SELF-defeat' vs. 110++:1 odds against their b.s. they spout!)

    ... apk

    1. Re: Why's MalwareBytes' hpHosts recommend it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One reply down, 219 left to go, apk!

      I mean, this reply counts for another 110 replies, right? Otherwise your self-touted ratio is completely blown out of the water.

      You're not getting any younger or saner, apk. Better get cracking on posting those crapflood troll messages! How would you live with yourself if your self-chosen 110:1 ratio erodes?!

      I would consider using apk hosts files if they could block apk's messages from appearing on websites. But of course his software can't help with that. GreaseMonkey should be able to accomplish that, though. Hm...

  183. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" off-topic troll... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line, + this link, & answer the question there, troll -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    * :)

    (What's the matter? "Cat got your tongue"... or, is it your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH AGAIN, washed down w/ "the bitter taste of SELF-defeat" yet again? Absolutely!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're pitiful... apk

  184. AdBlock = INFERIOR + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  185. Further making a "monkey" outta you troll... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sure, I'll trust a monkey like APK with root..." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 01, 2014 @01:34AM (#47579473)

    Since you avoid answering why MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts my program + recommend it as "best of breed" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    See subject-line above + show you've done MORE, BETTER, & EARLIER than I did in the art & science than I have from this only partial list of my favorites:

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40%) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT which took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001

    (Above were for software I wrote)

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com...

    It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge... or here http://sourceforge.net/tracker...

    APK

    P.S.=> So, how about YOU?

    ... apk

  186. APK defeated! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry apk, it seems you can't keep your purported 110:1 ratio. You simply cannot match the reactions of us, the victims of your trolling. We will always be stronger than your evil and we will stand up to you.

    Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat, evil one! The righteous have crushed your head under our heel.

    P.S> Why don't you listen to people who are trying to be your friend, like mmell?

  187. You keep avoiding a simple question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fail, & that's that -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Grow up Mmell - seriously: It's not *my* fault you're a "ne'er-do-well" troll & libeler -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... who can't get EVER the best of me (see 1st link above, "rinse, lather, & repeat"), however, I repeatedly have gotten the better of you, easily, with facts...

    ... apk

  188. All forms of AdBlock = INFERIOR to hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My program for hosts file construction adds security, speed, reliability, + anonymity & does more, more efficiently by FAR vs. addons + fixes DNS' security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    (Details of benefits in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default)
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse"
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome redirects on sites, /. beta as an example).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less added "moving parts" complexity/room 4 breakdown,

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs Fastflux + dynamic dns botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray is destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption too + hugely excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Work w/ a native kernelmode part - hosts files (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  189. APK lathers, rinses, repeats. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, APK, YOU fail and are a libeler to boot.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47593541

    Mmell just wants to be your friend. Probably the only person who has tried to do that in years.

  190. MMell = advertiser/marketer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't want hosts to be known about http://www.linkedin.com/pub/di... (subject line above also explains YOUR fails at defeating facts I put out regarding hosts also - you aren't technically skilled enough @ these levels to disprove my points on hosts... period).

    You've defeated yourself repeatedly mmell avoiding answering my questions put to you (& certainly not disproving my points on hosts' superiority either where I dusted yours with facts easily - you're just not on my level technically OR OTHERWISE & you never will be, Mmell & that's why you resort to off topic trolling + libeling me even... piss poor results that)

    By way of comparison, I give folks what they want via hosts with absolute fact you can't disprove backing it - pure truth!

    (My app does it better than ANY other single solution, especially browser addons 'souled-out' like AdBlock is & crippled by default OR Ghostery owned by advertisers + even its competition in like programs of its kind, AND it fixes DNS security redirect issues too - multiple bonuses!)

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o... does all that, & more efficiently than any other "so-called 'solution'" from 1 single file you natively already have (less moving complexity parts for breakdown & from a highly refined faster, & higher cpu service + priveleged kernelmode subsystem vs. slower usermode layered over browsers slowing them more addons)!

    Adding speed (blocking ads often infested with malicious script for security too, & hardcoding fav. sites = faster than dns poisonable remote DNS servers are), security (vs. malware of all types online, especially the most advanced & dangerous types heavily dependent on host-domain names in "FastFlux", "Dynamic DNS", & "DGA" utilizing botnets), + even anonymity (vs. dnsbl + dns request logs)!

    Fact - you can't touch it, or me: Truth & fact are like that, so am I.

    APK

    P.S.=> "Cat's outta the bag" on YOU, Mmell... apk

  191. You defeated yourself mmell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the truth about you is revealed (you're an advertiser and they hate hosts files) http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

  192. APK: off-topic troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK, no one sane will trust your malware especially after seeing your trolling antics.

    As I said, I load adblock plus *and* hosts. Hosts can't do everything, you know. Or maybe you don't.

    Go ahead, "lather, rinse, repeat" again. As we all know, you aren't getting any younger (or saner).

  193. The truth about APK the libeler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47618717

  194. Beg to differ: Mmell, you libeled me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without question: Or did you not libel me here, mmell http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ?

    (Yes, you did, essentially calling me a homosexual pedophile which I am NOT...)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're reprehensible & pitiful man... apk

  195. *IF* my ware's a malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "APK, no one sane will trust your malware" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 06, 2014 @08:17PM (#47618717)

    See my subject-line: Why're you avoiding this question then http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... ?

    I've also already proven my ware's no malware (with MalwareBytes' hpHosts & others helping me prove that on the EXACT grounds I noted it would be proven clean & safe on no less, vs. Norton/Symantec, Intel/McAfee, Comodo, ClamAV, & ArcaVir also - "experts" in the field, that I outright SCHOOLED easily on it no less!).

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit is FAR from a "malware" & is classified as antispyware/antimalware/firewall software here in fact as well as being hosted by MalwareBytes' hpHosts site (a respected member of the security community) in fact as I noted in this exchange.

    * You're libeling me again, mmell...

    (Is THAT "the best you've got"? Apparently so - & it ain't worth squat, as the saying goes...)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "Hosts can't do everything, you know. Or maybe you don't."" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 06, 2014 @08:17PM (#47618717)

    First: I never ONCE have said "hosts do it all"!

    Second: I just state fact that they do MORE, BETTER, & far more EFFICIENTLY than "Almost all ads blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' to GOOGLE as they are) or Ghostery (advertiser owned fox in a henhouse imo), & any other single browser addon + they even fix DNS redirect poisoning security issues and add more speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity than any other SINGLE solution out there, bar-none - period...

    ( & you're MORE THAN WELCOME to disprove that (however, it's clear you can't & that IS that))

    ... apk

  196. APK the libeler lathers, rinses, repeats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As proven conclusively before:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47618717

  197. Keep on proving me correct, APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please go ahead and continue to jump up and down with your retarded troll antics, APK.

    You are doing so much to prove to everyone that they should NOT trust you or your software with administrator privileges on their machines.

    I use lists of ad hosts to block things, but I would never use software created by you. You are simply, obviously, incontrovertibly untrustworthy as proven by your antics here and elsewhere on the internet, and you no doubt have mental issues.

    Why don't you like mmell? He apologized to you and is trying to be your friend, even after you hacked gmhowell's account. He even tried to encourage you to get the mental help you so obviously need.

    How many friends do you have in this world, apk? No, don't count the imaginary friendships... just the real ones. Why don't you want mmell as a friend? Having one friend is so much more than zero.

  198. "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If my ware's a "malware" then why can't you prove this wrong from me http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    ?

    (Your PUNY attempts @ "psychological attack" = weak! I don't *think* that you "get it", do you? I'm NOT here to win a popularity contest, here OR in real life... & yes, I do have pals despite your weak b.s. & projecting YOU are not able to stand on YOUR OWN, without them apparently... you project your own weaknesses, constantly (indicating you aren't too intelligent)).

    I never "hacked" gmhowell, or anyone else's, account. What gave you THAT dumb idea?

    Heck - I don't even need an account of my own here.

    ALL I NEED?

    Is facts, & truth (that you avoid in the link above that toss your b.s. libel of myself here mmell accusing me of pedophile behavior patterns http://slashdot.org/comments.p... which I DO NOT DO, nor am I a pedophile - despite your libel of myself shown and quoted there, mmell... pretty pitiful of you!)

    APK

    P.S.=> My man, I've gotta say it: You're a reprehensible fool and a troll... Now, I did find a linkedin profile showing you MAY be a marketer/advertiser or consultant for them, mmell - are you one? Answer that too... apk

  199. Accusing others of pedophile behavior mmell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When it's not true especially and then running from proving them wrong too mmell http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... only shows you failed again.

    APK

    P.S.=> You have issues man... big ones! Why not, instead, be of service to others as I have offering more speed, security, reliability, and more to others as I have shown you by the 100's from your peers here on /., using the BEST, SIMPLEST, & MOST EFFICIENT + EFFECTIVE method there is, in custom hosts files http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ?

    Try it sometime... you'll gain by it in ways you'd never imagine (that's ME being a friend to you, though I far from owe you it)...apk

  200. APK is defeated once again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foolish apk, I'm not mmell. I don't want to be your friend, but he apparently does (for inscrutable reasons).

    You're the pitiful one, as everyone can see:
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47638551

  201. You're "Forrest" running (for sure though) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why're you running from that challenge, "Forrest" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    ?

    (Oh, anyone reading KNOWS why... lol, & so do you, most of all...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Again - You're truly a reprehensible fool, troll, & intellectually challenged troll... nothing more (& the results here, which are terrible for YOU + great for me, show it - you fail, miserably, on any & all levels concerned)... apk

  202. Foolish, deluded APK misleads the public! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foolish APK, I'm not mmell, you moron.

    I get the best speed and privacy from running AdBlock Plus *and* blocking hosts. But I'll set my computer on fire before executing a single opcode written by you. This isn't an issue, because it's trivial to load hosts via script. Your software is worthless, especially because it requires executing something you provide, using elevated privileges.

    No one in their right mind would ever do that. You are a libellous identity thief, and your malware is a backdoor into any machine whose user is retarded enough to install it.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47638551

  203. APK lathers, rinses, repeats. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fail again (as always), libelous troll APK:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47638551

  204. Users don't *want* scripts: They want GUI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Script kiddies" (you I suspect @ this point) *tried* to write one as good as my APK Hosts File Engine & failed 4x (which makes me wonder how accurate yours is, so I will give you THESE valid pointers now on that much since others like you FAILED badly on hosts data processing):

    1st off - "IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY": But only IF the imitation is as good & works right (theirs/yours did not & failed on the action items list I put out there) & *IF* it's GUI, & yours? Isn't. See my subject-line & these FAILS of yours:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    BAD BLOCKING ADDRESS CONVERSION BY YOU/THEM (Didn't account for anything other than loopback on your part - larger & SLOWER than 0.0.0.0)

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    YOU/THEY FAILED TO ACCOUNT FOR Capital Letters, trailing blanks & other characters in others' HOSTS files (you/they don't have a good handle on data processing, because in files? It's ALL ABOUT THE DATA & its accuracy!)

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    You/They didn't write as much functionality as I did, yourself, and I had to practically ARCHITECT YOUR WORK FOR YOU (because you made numerous revisions based on my statements of your ERRORS to you):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    Of course, by NOW? LOL, you've corrected those I hope (after all - I practically did the work FOR you, correcting your mistakes, & numerous amateurish ones...)

    APK

    P.S.=> There you go (again, I suspect, lol) & please show us & PROVE that I AM AN "IDENTITY THIEF" since you continue to libel me... apk

  205. That's not what users want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Users want trustworthy software that just works. Your software fails on both counts, whereas AdBlock Plus blocks ads and "anything other than APK's untrustworthy software" works well for adding in hosts blocking. Because, you know, hosts can't block everything and users need something like Ad Block Plus to cover those other cases.

    Stop trolling, apk. It's been conclusively proven that you and your software are a failure.

    PS. The proof is right here, as always, you libelous identity thief: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47638551

  206. 12 security community sources say otherwise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line & AdBlock doesn't do a fraction of what hosts can for speed, security, reliability, + more - period.

    * Proof's right here (when I confronted Wladimir Palant of "Almost all ads blocked", crippled like it is) & Wladimir Palant ran from my challenge to him to show anyone reading that AdBlock does more for users than hosts files do, twice, after stating "hosts are a shitty solution" to me -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... after HE wrote ME, 1st mind you, stating that. I wrote him back from 2 diff. emails, & still no response... he fails, and so do you - period.

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - State your PROOF that I am an "identity thief": I'd like to see that much since I've asked that of you (since you libel me as that much & it is NOT true that I am an identity thief)... apk

  207. Hosts can't block everything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For example, any hosts file-based solution must be augmented by an additional system to block "in-band" ads that are served by the same servers as serve the site's normal content.

    Ad Block Plus (and other such software) can do that. Hosts obviously cannot, because it's a binary control whether to block all content from a given host or not. APK, you fail to understand that some people might use both in order to ensure that the best coverage is obtained.

    Why would you not want to have some ads/bad material blocked (e.g. the in-band served stuff)? Could it be that you are in the pocket of advertisers/marketers, much as you accuse others of being?

    I'm not surprised. The proof of your malfeasance is right here, you libelous identity thief. You fail: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5467931&cid=47638551

  208. AdBlock doesn't block everything (crippled) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AdBlock's CRIPPLED BY DEFAULT NOT TO BLOCK EVERYTHING! You shot yourself in the foot with this weak point, AND?

    Clue: Ads that PAY aren't on the same server so admen don't TRUST websites for that (would you? If so, you're very dumb):

    E.G.-> The site could say "We get 10 billion views a second on that ad so pay us on that insane amount!" when in reality, they only got a few hits.

    * You're SINGLE "advantage" (i.e. not one at all) doesn't WORK IN THE REAL WORLD on real paying ads for that very reason above - it's a fantasy you're selling there...

    (AdBlock also doesn't DO EVERYTHING hosts can, not by a longshot...)

    APK

    P.S.=> There is, however, NO QUESTION that hosts files do more for security, speed, reliability, & even anonymity, especially vs. "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default like it is - Per my subject-line above - AdBlock DOESN'T BLOCK EVERYTHING EITHER from what I understand, it doesn't TOUCH Google ads since they were paid off NOT to block them)... apk

  209. Your scriptkiddie script doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Proof's all over this post on that (so quit being a pot calling a kettle black) http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... per my subject-line above & not only was your script full of "bugs", but it's NOT what USERS WANT since it's not GUI!

    (Users want graphical user interfaces in today's graphical computing world - not 'script kiddie scripts'... or isn't Windows, MacOS X, & Linux GUI's NOT "the way of the day", troll? Yes, they are... you lose).

    *:)

    (You fail... as always)

    APK

    P.S.=> You can stop trolling, until you prove AdBlock or your 'script kiddie script' that I practically WROTE FOR YOU (lol, it's all up there in that link) & you STILL got it wrong (& are in for HUGE surprises in other areas too after those on hosts data) DOES MORE than hosts do for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity more efficiently + MORE ACCURATELY where you failed badly (clue - they don't do more & never can, or will)... apk

  210. Hosts, via my program, != binary control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine allows you to turn hosts on/off in 1 click so, if for SOME reason, you wanted to see blocked content on a particular site? You can, easily... just like that (via its popup trayicon or rightclick of main screen menus).

    You shouldn't shoot your mouth off on things you have NO CLUE ON, fool...

    Thus, you failed on these points (that "Shot yours down" as pure b.s., rather easily):

    1.) Your scriptkiddie script NOT being what folks want & use (GUI) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    2.) Your scriptkiddie script NOT WORKING RIGHT (& I had to show you how/where/when/why you screwed up on it, practically architecting & building it for you) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    3.) AdBlock's CRIPPLED BY DEFAULT & doesn't block everything you fool (didn't you KNOW that? Apparently not) & AdBlock doesn't do a FRACTION of what hosts can for added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity that hosts files do -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    (On that last note? From what I have read & understand, Adblock's "in the pocket of advertisers" paid off by GOOGLE not to block THEIR ads - so it surely doesn't block it all, that's for SURE... @ least that's what I've seen on /. @ some point!).

    4.) Ads that actually PAY are not served from the same server, moron (advertisers do NOT trust websites to report on them honestly is why, you utter fool - spouting non-real world "features" (that aren't) as "benefits" is a TOTAL fail on YOUR end...)

    * There's your "Fantastic 4 fails" - you've got to live with them, not I (I do, however, get to lmao @ them, and thus, you too... lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - I keep asking you your PROOF that I am an "identity thief" since you libel me thus & I am NOT an "identity thief" or malware maker etc. as you also libeled me aswhich you RUN from disproving after my counter-proof all thru this exchange -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...

    ... apk