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UK To Allow Driverless Cars By January

rtoz sends this news from the BBC: The UK government has announced that driverless cars will be allowed on public roads starting in January next year. It also invited cities to compete to host one of three trials of the tech, which would start at the same time. In addition, ministers ordered a review of the UK's road regulations to provide appropriate guidelines. ... The debate now is whether to allow cars, like the prototype unveiled by Google in May, to abandon controls including a steering wheel and pedals and rely on the vehicle's computer. Or whether, instead, to allow the machine to drive, but insist a passenger be ready to wrest back control at a moment's notice.

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  1. Safety by Old+Aylesburian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just needs a requirement for a man to walk ahead carrying a red flag.

  2. A Progression of Complaints by X!0mbarg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once they start to roll, there will be a logical progression of complaints, starting with "They're too slow."
    Next will be "They're blocking traffic flow/causing traffic jams."
    Possibly among the next bunch of complaints:
    "They move erratically/unpredictably"
    "They wait too long at/stop too soon for traffic lights"

    Most of the complaints will revolve around the simple fact that the autonomous cars will be driving 100% according to the rules of the road, and 95+% of the remaining drivers don't. Things like stopping for yellow lights, driving at the actual speed limit, slowing for merging traffic, properly signalling turns and lane-changes, etc.

    In the end, the autonomous cars will reduce traffic jams, as they can intelligently travel in clusters, all in communication with each other, and even vary their routes for volume, all while staying moving at a reasonable clip.

    The problem will come in when people deliberately try to mess with them, forcing them into emergency maneuvers by cutting them off for exits (for example), or cutting in front and slamming on the breaks (road rage).

    Here's hoping they are outfitted with outward-facing cameras for recording such acts of stupidity.

    1. Re:A Progression of Complaints by CreatureComfort · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think that the main reason people speed, race the yellow, and in other ways behave as general asshats when behind the wheel is the inherent understanding that every second spent driving is a wasted second. You notice you rarely see passengers road raging. Once everyone becomes a passenger, and transit time becomes productive time, whether it involves work, updating facebook, playing games, or getting a few extra minutes of sleep, much of the incentive to rush goes away.

      Personally, I generally drive like a bat out of hell, and regularly am cussing the idiots who wont get out of my way. But, once I get my autonomous vehicle (I plan to be a very early adopter) I won't care that the car is doing the speed limit, stopping when I would have chanced it, not changing lanes into the "fastest", etc. I'll be reading, sleeping, gaming, etc. In fact, once my commute becomes reliable productive time, I can see myself getting irritated that I get to my destination before I've finished my chapter, level, quest, etc.

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    2. Re:A Progression of Complaints by jxander · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do realize that unless you're driving a 1950 era automobile, you're already putting your life into the hands of programmers

      What do you think happens when you step on the gas pedal? Do you think it's still physically pulling some cable that opens flapper valves, allowing more fuel to flow into a carburetor? Nope. It's all electronic now. You stepping on the gas sends a single to a computer "He's pushing for 25% throttle" which was designed by programmers to actuate your fuel injection at the proper flow rate.

      What about that transmission? Unless you drive manual, you're not actually moving gears around with that lever. You're sending a signal to a computer "Put it in drive" which was also designed by a programmer.

      Brakes still have a physical connection, for now, but that's only as a backup. The vast majority of your breaking is done digitally, just like the throttle

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  3. Re:Figures it would not be the US by linearZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    The US has had this for a while.

    Nevada legalized driver less cars a couple of years ago. Google will be running an autonomous taxi service in Vegas: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tec...

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  4. UK vs US roads by cliffjumper222 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Whenever I travel to the UK, I'm impressed and often overwhelmed with the level of visual information that there is when driving - UK roads are fantastically well lined and signposted, they are especially good at night with reflectors/cats eyes down the middle of the road and often different colored ones on the side of the road. As you drive down a freeway/motorway there will typically be at least 4 or 5 signs warning you of a turn-off - two actual directions, and then 100m count-down signs! In the US, you're lucky if there's more than one, and usually that one single sign is just before the turn-off! Of course, computer-driven cars will be able to use GPS/satNav, but driving in the UK is like driving a video game compared to the US. In a lot of Colorado cities, they don't even paint a line across the road at the stop/traffic lights!

  5. Re:Not deploying driverless cars kills people by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wikipedia has a nice table of the relevant data. Per capita statistics are a bit misleading as they don't count for different levels of car ownership. Per vehicle statistics are a bit better. The UK has 6.2 fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles (per year), whereas the USA has 13.6. Generalising this to 'Europe in general' doesn't really work though: Greece, for example, has 13.8 and Portugal has 18.

    Even that doesn't tell the whole story though, because people in the UK laugh hysterically when we hear how long people in the USA think a reasonable daily commute is and so cars in the USA are likely to be driven further, which might account for the difference. Taking that into account and using the numbers for fatalities per billion km driven, the UK has 4.3 and the USA 7.6 , so under twice as many. As the grandparent said: not too far behind.

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  6. Have they solved liability? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or is this not an issue in the UK?

    Because, if it's a driverless car, I'm not taking any control or responsibility for the vehicle other than telling it my destination.

    If the car can suddenly say "Oh, crap, you take over I don't know what to do" then it defeats the purpose.

    If you're going to have truly driverless cars, then you need to determine who takes liability if it runs over a person. Because I'm going to be sleeping in the back seat or reading a book.

    Somehow, I doubt the companies making these cars have stepped up and said they're so confident in their technology that they'll take responsibility. And someone who has disengaged themselves from the act of driving (like reading a book) can't immediately switch to being in control of the vehicle. If I have to keep tabs on it and be responsible at a moments notice, then what is the benefit at all?

    Every time this comes up, it just seems like nobody has actually addressed this yet.

    You want a driverless car? Make sure I can crawl into the backseat after a night at the pub and not have to worry about it. Until then, this is really advanced cruise control, but you still need to be aware the whole time.

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  7. Re:Not deploying driverless cars kills people by magarity · · Score: 4, Funny

    UK have nowhere NEAR the rate of deaths caused by traffic accidents because the British know how drive.

    Which it really weird considering they're always driving on the wrong side of the road.

  8. Re: good they have NHS so one some gets hurt by easyTree · · Score: 4, Funny

    In the US, each pedestrian is equipped with full-body external 'airbags' to cushion the blow :P